Why not? If not then why improve the iso capability or buy camera with better iso capability?

If one is in a situation where he/she is not allowed to use flash (or some reasons), in lowlight, need to freeze motion with X shutter speed and already on wide aperture. Should he or she under-expose by using lower iso? This will just introduce more noise/grain when under-expose.

In latest Nikon provided beginner guide, it shows and explains very well on the usage of the ISO, why this shot uses ISO6400, etc. I used to limit myself at ISO, learned the hard way finding out how bad the noise/grain due to under-expose shot, affected all my shots.

Justg sharing, nothing wrong with using higher iso if you need it (e.g. when you need the fast shutter speed and certain aperture OR you need to expose the background in night shots and at same time need fast shutter speed, etc)

17-55 not cheap (especially NEW)

And also the in-camera HDR feature
Still no in-camera panorama feature yet.

Btw, anybody care to share what's the rough price range for 105mm AF-S Micro Nikkor?

This was recently posted in Nikon Malaysia FB page, and also by Agito in previous post:
http://dslr.nikon-asia.com/amateur1/

Metering is just for reference, just like the histogram... depend on situation, it may not be always correct. However the metering you can change to spot or center-weighted to accomodate different situation.

Haha, the fro anti HDR because he want the camera technology to acheiebe HDR (High Dynamic Range) without using multiple image technique. Our eyes have high dynamic range, but the camera is still far away, but he did mentioned the D3X have higher/better dynamic range already.

I think its a nice feature to have. I don't like to follow Steve Jobs way, its better to have than don have, not like Mr. Jobs, giving excuses when its not provided, or like Nokia giving excuses for not giving auto-focus feature on the latest smartphone, giving reasons like its faster.All crap,... provide the feature and let the user to choose whether to use it or turn off the feature, not removing or not proividing the feature then giving lame excuses =P

Anyway, HDR is really a nice feature if they provide in camera as users don't have to wait until they go back and process it. I'm not a fan of those painting like HDR, I'm more into those proper HDR, where you properly expose both the foreground and background or similar to what human eyes see, or slightly better (e.g. wearing sunglass). I've used smartphones HDR feature few times, and the result is great, becuase its able to reproduce what I see, or more clear version. The result, not necessary people may know its HDR, it may look like a normal photo or with taken with filters.

Thanks for the price, actually I'm looking for NEW unit price. seems its around RM3.1K in many places?

This post has been edited by Andy214: Apr 6 2011, 03:00 PM

Well its a feature that is Nice to have, not a necessity. It bring convenience if you need to see the result immediately or give to people without the need to processed it first.
Anyway, eventually these feature will eventually made available, its just a matter of time. We should look forward and positively, its a nice feature to have. Just like buying car, got automatic wiper or automatic lightings, its nice to have, but not necessity, some might dont even like it and prefer less electronics. You can always choose not to use it or turn it off.

MY I think the price around RM3.1K new. Not sure if can get cheaper...

Thanks

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Added on April 6, 2011, 3:15 pmThanks. Yea, I've check there, its around RM3.1K range.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Apr 6 2011, 03:15 PM

Bro, I thought you already go through the beginner guide provided by Nikon? It's very well done, they give very good example with pictures showing how the image look when you change the aperture; There's also manual mode, which you can play with the shutter speed slider and aperture slider to experiment yourself how the image will turn out. Such great effort done by Nikon leh.

Anyway, for the picture you mentioned, it depends on several conditions, e.g. focal length, subject distance, etc. You will also notice at different focal length, the distance between the 2 subject will appear differently (at 18mm you can see the distance is further away, when you zoom to 50mm, the distance between the 2 subject becomes closer).

To get the 3 person in focus, you can try with smaller aperture maybe like example: 5.6? Then you should FOCUS on the center between both the subject and play around with the aperture; you can also experiment with the FOCUS, and see how the depth of field changes if you FOCUS in the front subject and also the rear subject.
If you focus wrongly (e.g. the front subject), then if you want to get the rear subject in focus, you will need very small aperture...
You can do testing yourself, put 3 rows of books (example; OR your beloved Dam DAM = Gundam), and play with the focus point and the aperture to experiment yourself.
Also try with the shooting distance, try shooting close-up and slowly move further back, and see the difference... When you shoot closer, the depth of field is more narrow... also try different focal length...

Experience is the best teacher.

Go experiment with your Gundam loh, very fun one
When get more experience then can experiment with your T8T8 club

Try to get those which can go low angle, so you can shoot low angle.

Got many brand available, shashinki got sell one brand from China 'Justino' which is cheaper. According to the owner, KKK, he mention the quality is as good as Benro. You can browse there and see.

You can also try look for Vanguard brand, it's not bad and looks nice. Yoo can get Espod plus model for around rm300++, the retail price is around RM600 if not mistaken.

Pardon me
Thanks for correcting

US naik harga dah:
http://www.adorama.com/NK3518U.html?utm_te...ce=rflAID021866

Get a compact or go mirrorless

no reduction or not is unknown, but you can google and read more about it, it may not be noticeable or the difference is too small and also it depends on situation. When we test, we only test in controlled situation.

In the end, its up to individual preference; are you willing to go naked?

Not sure eyesight; But it's like this, usually normal person who shoot pictures, may not notice so much details; But when the person goes detail/serious into photography, he/she starts to see more details, notice more things, pixel peeps, etc. For example, before I venture into DSLR, I'm satisfied with PnS/Compact quality and didn't look into the details, sharpness, etc. and those wedding photos looks superb already; Once moved into DSLR, starts to notice this and that, the details, review back my old PnS/Compact camera photos and notice more things. It changes what and how one person see things, last time, those wedding photos I see nice, now I see, I have different opinion already. I notice the blur part, handshake, etc.
When you shoot more and have more experience, you might also notice you can roughly tell the image is a bit blur without the need to zoom in from the camera (of course, depends how serious it is); Like viewing the picture for my PC, I can tell there is some slight blur without need to view at 1:1 size, which last time I wouldn't be see it, or someone who is not into photography might not see it until I zoom in 1:1 and show them.

This don't just apply for photography, it applies for many things; As this is eyesight, now take music for example, ears; when you starts to appreciate music, you tend to notice more details on the music and so on, which previously you might not notice. And if you take up music classes, you might learn and notice much more things.

Lastly, if you're shooting for yourself, it's up to personal preference, what you can accept; For me, if possible I try to get sharp image with no blur, but sometimes, depend on situation (e.g. shooting moving subject, capturing the moment), you have to give and take; capturing the moment is more important.
If you're shooting for someone else, then you have to be more careful and try to meet your client's requirement.

Yup, usable; Not big issue, I think razurya just want to inform?

Besides, the picture is for his own collection, most important is up to him; for feedback, can be taken positively.

What about Thailand?

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Added on April 11, 2011, 12:13 pmMore is good, if want less, its easy, just buy lower end.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Apr 11 2011, 12:13 PM

When you go higher end, or professional range, most of the common settings is done from the buttons instead of in the menu. It's not put in some effort, it's actually more easy and fast, it's important.
Doing in menu waste time and need you take off your eye from the viewfinder and look at the menu everytime, this also consume battery power, etc.

Those serious about DSLR, usually look for more convenient controls rather than set everything from menu. If want simple, better get compact digi cam, which now have very powerful and smaller size like those EVIL cameras. Those that "want" a DSLR because it looks cools, yet they want the ease of use, so there is this low end entry level targeted for consumers.


Shame on me... I don't know how to use when someone pass it to me ask me to help them shoot. Since I need to shoot immediately, no time to experiment how to set this and that...

Don't worry, it's very easy and very fast once; same like menu, first time you also need to explore and find out. Actually, using the buttons is faster and more easy to remember because you will be using it a lot (especially if you shoot in Manual mode). First time, you just need to find out which is which, besides, the button there got 'label' already so you can know what it do; The main key is the dials on camera which does not have label.

Once you familiarize it, you move on high end Nikon cameras, it's mostly the same and you can easily, quickly familiarize and shoot in no time.

wahhhhh, shifu is here!!!

I'm not referring to "GEAR" type Shifu, I'm referring to "SKILL" Shifu~