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post Apr 14 2012, 10:20 PM

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Finaly went to test drive forte 2.0 & koup

damn it's a nice looking car.. (koup)

power wise really dint feel much of it. maybe due to the big diff of lower rpm tourge. cuz just test polo tsi a day before. the diff of stand still - floor gas pedal small car gives the Wow factor

forte 2.0 really comfort to drive, all aspect is just nice. Would be a sure buy if it wasn't for the evil step
brother Koup smile.gif

koup, few major things I felt are the stiff suspensions.. u can really feel what's going through the road surface.

& the passenger having a hard time getting out. I banged my head n butt while testing it

I'm so confuse n frustrated now... forte or koup ... arghhhhh
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post Apr 15 2012, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(cloner @ Apr 14 2012, 10:20 PM)
Finaly went to test drive forte 2.0 & koup

damn it's a nice looking car.. (koup)

power wise really dint feel much of it. maybe due to the big diff of lower rpm tourge. cuz just test polo tsi a day before. the diff of stand still - floor gas pedal small car gives the Wow factor

forte 2.0 really comfort to drive, all aspect is just nice. Would be a sure buy if it wasn't for the evil step
brother Koup smile.gif

koup, few major things I felt are the stiff suspensions.. u can really feel what's going through the road surface. 

& the passenger having a hard time getting out. I banged my head n butt while testing it

I'm so confuse n frustrated now... forte or koup ... arghhhhh
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haha.. u are in the koup tread so...get the koup! 2 is enuff... thumbup.gif


Added on April 15, 2012, 2:16 am
QUOTE(k0k5k0k @ Apr 12 2012, 11:09 PM)
sorry, may i know what's the major different for koup and 2.0 forte in terms of spec ? (i'm a car spec noob)..thanks for the info in advance
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engine spec wise is the same from 2.0 forte and koup! cool.gif

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post Apr 15 2012, 06:29 PM

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any info on the mods avail in Malaysia? Johor mayb ?

am definately going for lighter rims, lighter bonet, increase air intake or exhaust, projector head lamps or hid's

or a turbo kit maybe smile.gif. after the 2yrs free service of course.
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QUOTE(cloner @ Apr 15 2012, 06:29 PM)
any info on the mods avail in Malaysia? Johor mayb ?

am definately going for lighter rims, lighter bonet, increase air intake or exhaust, projector head lamps or hid's

or a turbo kit maybe smile.gif. after the 2yrs free service of course.
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LOL....get the car first ok! laugh.gif
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post Apr 22 2012, 12:11 AM

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in process of preparing my financials.. too many debts !!! lol


Added on April 22, 2012, 12:12 ambtw may I join the FB group?

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post Apr 27 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(cloner @ Apr 14 2012, 11:20 PM)
Finaly went to test drive forte 2.0 & koup

damn it's a nice looking car.. (koup)

power wise really dint feel much of it. maybe due to the big diff of lower rpm tourge. cuz just test polo tsi a day before. the diff of stand still - floor gas pedal small car gives the Wow factor

forte 2.0 really comfort to drive, all aspect is just nice. Would be a sure buy if it wasn't for the evil step
brother Koup smile.gif

koup, few major things I felt are the stiff suspensions.. u can really feel what's going through the road surface. 

& the passenger having a hard time getting out. I banged my head n butt while testing it

I'm so confuse n frustrated now... forte or koup ... arghhhhh
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Both car has its own advantages. Maybe these will help.Consider the car base on these: rclxub.gif
1) 2 doors /4doors. Which one will be more suitable for u?
2) Price, budget, monthly installment.
Hopefully my suggestion will help.






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post Apr 30 2012, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 5 2012, 04:00 AM)
yeah. now all fixed. sure. can you please invite me? or how?
you have the same dilemma like what I had last year. but for me, it's more between peugeot 308 turbo and koup. polo tsi is nice and power, but it's too small and i feel imho it's an el cheapo car, if there's no vw logo on it.

my personal opinion.. (sorry as I dont follow your criteria):

- koup is more stylish and more rare. there are lots of peugeot 308 user on the road..
- peugeot more power than koup at low rpm due to it's turbo power.however at mid rpm to high rpm, koup is equal if not better than the 308 turbo.
- in terms of handling, koup is 5 times better than peugeot. koup is more aggressive and not bad in performance too. my car everything is still at stock condition, and I got 9.47 seconds from 0 to 100. also it can reach 200 easily. I even recorded one video where I reached almost 210km/h.
- peugeot has awesome technical features which is not surprising as it's a continental car.. but I prefer one thing with koup that peugeot dont have. The 99% keyless system, starting from when you opening the door, start and stop your engine and till you leave your car..  (the 1% is because you still need a key with you!). it's really convenient.
- i did lots of research, and with 308 you need to use ron97, or else there will be system depoluttion faulty error and it only limits your car to some speed only.. (if i'm not mistaken 60km/h).
- i dunno why, but most of the peugeot I find on the road moves like turtle.. maybe because most of them are driven by girls or uncle. I dunno..
- peugeot is more all rounder car. suits your need whenever you need it. driving fast alone, bringing your family for a ride ant etc.. however koup is more like sport car where you dont really carry passengers at the back.
- however koup rear side is still very spacious, compare to most of 2 doors car out there.
- but I still recommend you to buy peugeot if you always carry more than 1 passenger.
trust me, the feeling is different compare to 1.6 forte. I drove forte 1.6 for a year, before I bought koup and I can still the difference even until now (yes, i still have my 1.6 forte)
the steering / handling is awesome in koup although at first i didnt really like the bumpy suspension..
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yo bro irenic, so far your koup has any problems like brake switch issue? any faults. Also what is your colour. My wife love the Red. but is it a solid colour, afraid of the colour fade later. Can SG help in prolonging the colour.

after driving Koup, i also love it. ya she drives 90% alone all the time. so i think it is ok, wanna fetch ppl for lunch 4 person can squeeze comfortably.

You said handling is better than 1.6 SX or 2.0 SX, my wife claims it grips better and has better confidence in driving the koup compare to 2.0 SX.


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post May 1 2012, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 5 2012, 04:00 AM)
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- i did lots of research, and with 308 you need to use ron97, or else there will be system depoluttion faulty error and it only limits your car to some speed only.. (if i'm not mistaken 60km/h).
- i dunno why, but most of the peugeot I find on the road moves like turtle.. maybe because most of them are driven by girls or uncle. I dunno..
It can take ron95 with no system errors n can do 210++kmh with it..
U havent found d fast driver yet laugh.gif
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post May 1 2012, 05:14 AM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 30 2012, 10:20 PM)
yo bro irenic, so far your koup has any problems like brake switch issue? any faults. Also what is your colour. My wife love the Red. but is it a solid colour, afraid of the colour fade later. Can SG help in prolonging the colour.

after driving Koup, i also love it. ya she drives 90% alone all the time. so i think it is ok, wanna fetch ppl for lunch 4 person can squeeze comfortably.

You said handling is better than 1.6 SX or 2.0 SX, my wife claims it grips better and has better confidence in driving the koup compare to 2.0 SX.
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hmm brake switch issue? so far i dont have any problem yet. my koup is red.

QUOTE(raclette @ May 1 2012, 02:27 AM)
It can take ron95 with no system errors n can do 210++kmh with it..
U havent found d fast driver yet laugh.gif
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i think of all the 3 times i test drove the 308, i was the one of the fastest driver on the road. haha tongue.gif
honestly, i didnt try for top speed, the max i went is just 180kmh. but on malaysia road or highway, it's not just about top speed. our road has lots of corners and curves, and koup can tackle those corners at faster speed than the 308 (i went for test drive repeatedly between 308 and koup, and that is what i felt).

yes it can use ron95, but lots of the users advice to 'wash' the engine by using ron97 after 2-3 cycle with ron95, to avoid the depollution system error.


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QUOTE(irenic @ May 1 2012, 05:14 AM)
hmm brake switch issue? so far i dont have any problem yet. my koup is red.
i think of all the 3 times i test drove the 308, i was the one of the fastest driver on the road. haha  tongue.gif
honestly, i didnt try for top speed, the max i went is just 180kmh. but on malaysia road or highway, it's not just about top speed. our road has lots of corners and curves, and koup can tackle those corners at faster speed than the 308 (i went for test drive repeatedly between 308 and koup, and that is what i felt).

yes it can use ron95, but lots of the users advice to 'wash' the engine by using ron97 after 2-3 cycle with ron95, to avoid the depollution system error.
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What I was trying to say is that it can still go up to 200 kmh even with ron95. No such thing as the car limits the speed to 60kmh. smile.gif
N i havent met such error without filling intermittently ron 97. We only use ron97 during the first few tanks which was early last year. Unless if its hidden n need special tool to read that error...
My opinion is that the seating feels quite high so im quite hesitate to take corners fast. Honestly i prefer my neo seating.but they arent comparable at all especially in term of power n nvh:lol:
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QUOTE(raclette @ May 1 2012, 11:53 AM)
What I was trying to say is that it can still go up to 200 kmh even with ron95. No such thing as the car limits the speed to 60kmh. smile.gif
N i havent met such error without filling intermittently ron 97. We only use ron97 during the first few tanks which was early last year. Unless if its hidden n need special tool to read that error...
My opinion is that the seating feels quite high so im quite hesitate to take corners fast. Honestly i prefer my neo seating.but they arent comparable at all especially in term of power n nvh:lol:
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for nvh, definitely peugeot wins... it's a continental car kot.. thumbup.gif
for acceleration, maybe from 0km/h yes peugeot is too powerful for neo.. but if you are at 140kmh, does it significantly outperform your neo?

hmm i cant comment any further about the ron95/97 issue with the 308.. because I dont own the car, but what I know is just through some research I did when the car was in my buy list last year smile.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ May 1 2012, 12:27 PM)
for nvh, definitely peugeot wins... it's a continental car kot..  thumbup.gif
for acceleration, maybe from 0km/h yes peugeot is too powerful for neo.. but if you are at 140kmh, does it significantly outperform your neo?

hmm i cant comment any further about the ron95/97 issue with the 308.. because I dont own the car, but what I know is just through some research I did when the car was in my buy list last year  smile.gif
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The 308t is a beast compare to my auto n stock standard neo cps.press n itll just..go laugh.gif from 120 to 200++ kmh is relatively fast.neo semput already ar 150-170.

308t is d most powerful car I've ever driven to date so ymmv:)

Imho, a highway corner in neo@170-180kmh is comparable to 308t@200-210kmh in term of scaring myself. Though at such speed,the 308 felt like turtling while relatively stable for neo.@170kmh, thing started to wobble around for 308t but still better than neo la.

I still prefer to drive my neo when im driving alone biggrin.gif

Sorry for hijacking this thread but had to correct the misinformation (from my experience that is..)

Btw, the koup looks really nice. Much better than 4doors version.
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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ Apr 12 2012, 09:39 AM)
This car was on my list of cars to consider for by year end. But, I test drove it at the KIA test drive centre in Bangsar yesterday and I was disappointed. Perhaps my opinions below can help give some insight to potential buyers.

I'm 180cm tall and my hair was touching the roof, felt extremely claustrophobic. Interior is acceptable, looks and feels pretty good for its price. Although materials used are plastics, they don't feel as cheap as say, the interior of a Fiesta?

The biggest let down for me has to be the engine, it is too noisy, and underpowered. I currently drive a 1995 Honda Civic 1600cc, non VTEC. What was going through my head was "how can this be a 2.0 engine?". It is because the torque is simply not there at all when I floor it, not to mention there was also a very noticeable lag when I floor the pedal. All noise and no pull. I do not mean to insult but the old generation 1.8 Altis had more torque. Perhaps it has a better mid range torque but the test drive route didn't give me a chance to go above 60km/h.

The ride is rather harsh but that is because it is a sport coupe after all. As for the handling and cornering, no chance to test it out for higher speed cornering due to the test drive route.

My conclusion for this car after one test drive is that it looks great, it really does, but it doesn't feel great and it unfortunately doesn't drive great too. I do plan to go for another test drive at another KIA showroom before I strike this off my list.

Hope I do not offend any owners here as these are my honest views!
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ya i agree with you, the test drive route is around mid valley and a little hill climb, at bangsar. For me overall i dont have much experience with 2 doors, but koup within the price range it is the best buy,

i just went to have a look at the crz, about the same price. 115 also, but the downside of CRZ is a cannot get into the back seat, totally cannot fit me, i am just normal 175cm, as for the koup, i could sit nicely and fit into the back seat.

for a quick lunch with 4 friends i think koup is very very friendly. As for the CRZ, the back seat is a waste of space. Dont know what i can do with it. Anyway CRZ looks also a little too funcky, too old to drive the car. I think the koup really is an all range age group, if you are looking for a 2 door coupe, this probably is the better buy, unless you wanna include satria neo, which i feel , it is also another not my taste kind of car.

Anyway here is a list of 2 door coupe

1) satria neo RM 70K
2) Kia forte koup RM 115K
3) honda CRZ RM 115k
4) Mazda RX 8 RM 236K
5) VW Sei lo kong (Scirroco ) RM 188K
6) Polo GTI 132K
6) VW eos RM 257K
7) BMW mini cooper RM 200k above
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so any more that i miss within the affordable range of 200K and below?


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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 30 2012, 10:20 PM)
yo bro irenic, so far your koup has any problems like brake switch issue? any faults. Also what is your colour. My wife love the Red. but is it a solid colour, afraid of the colour fade later. Can SG help in prolonging the colour.

after driving Koup, i also love it. ya she drives 90% alone all the time. so i think it is ok, wanna fetch ppl for lunch 4 person can squeeze comfortably.

You said handling is better than 1.6 SX or 2.0 SX, my wife claims it grips better and has better confidence in driving the koup compare to 2.0 SX.
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Hi, regarding the brake switch issue, curretnly none of our owners facing this issue yet, due maybe it is a CBU car.
2ndly, if you never ram the brake to start the car and take care properly shud be no problem.

yes, behidn ssqueezing ppl is comfortably, just one thing is just very hassle if more than 1 passenger.

of course the handling would be better due lower set up from forte suspension and the body type is coupe type.

Oh ya, forget to says that, if im not mistaken it is only the white is solid colours, other would be metallic even the Red you prefered. why am i so sure because i had problems with the solid also, but still getting the white ones. tongue.gif

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hi cavin thanks for the reply, i believe the red is also solid, metallic is orange and blue only.
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QUOTE(sonyman @ May 1 2012, 01:55 PM)
ya i agree with you, the test drive route is around mid valley and a little hill climb, at bangsar. For me overall i dont have much experience with 2 doors, but koup within the price range it is the best buy,

i just went to have a look at the crz, about the same price. 115 also, but the downside of CRZ is a cannot get into the back seat, totally cannot fit me, i am just normal 175cm, as for the koup, i could sit nicely and fit into the back seat.

for a quick lunch with 4 friends i think koup is very very friendly.  As for the CRZ, the back seat is a waste of space. Dont know what i can do with it. Anyway CRZ looks also a little too funcky, too old to drive the car. I think the koup really is an all range age group, if you are looking for a 2 door coupe, this probably is the better buy, unless you wanna include satria neo, which i feel , it is also another not my taste kind of car.

Anyway here is a list of 2 door coupe

1) satria neo RM 70K
2) Kia forte koup RM 115K
3) honda CRZ RM 115k
4) Mazda RX 8 RM 236K
5) VW Sei lo kong (Scirroco ) RM 188K
6) Polo GTI 132K
6) VW eos RM 257K
7) BMW mini cooper RM 200k above
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so any more that i miss within the affordable range of 200K and below?
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yes, Peugeot RCZ and Audi TT also in the range. Even BMW Coupe.

But it is all depends how much you willing to fork out for a car.

Welcomez, but im pretty sure all is metallic paint except the white would Solid. Because i hate my car to be solid also, but no choice there was 1 choice of white that i want. Try to confirm with a SA. the red is Ferrari Red so is not the red that using in the myvi chili red. LoL
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hi calvin, what colour did you get for your Koup
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QUOTE(sonyman @ May 2 2012, 08:55 PM)
hi calvin, what colour did you get for your Koup
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The white ones..

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QUOTE(Calvin_PB @ May 3 2012, 09:32 AM)
The white ones..
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wooo the white is very nice. But i dont think white is solid, it is a 2K white which the SA brags about it.

Anyway i have one small concern for the koup. when we wanna sell in the future, i wonder how much will we loose.. sorry for asking,

but then of course i am getting one. just wanna prepare myself .
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QUOTE(sonyman @ May 3 2012, 01:11 PM)
wooo the white is very nice. But i dont think white is solid, it is a 2K white which the SA brags about it.

Anyway i have one small concern for the koup. when we wanna sell in the future, i wonder how much will we loose.. sorry for asking,

but then of course i am getting one. just wanna prepare myself .
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2k paint, haha, im really curious to go see the SA you mention.., the paper, the internet is obviously written there is a solid, and the white colour code name is also "Solid White". how it gonna be metallic and 2k.. LOL.

For our koup owners club, none of us thinking about sell in the future yet due the car is still very new, so nobody will expect loose how much for this. buying a korea brand is just depends on you mind or don mind, if you mind then can just forget it. anyway, even the luxury type cars like ferrari also going depreciate a lot. Malaysia only Toyota and Honda, honda and toyota. hehe

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