Also I'm planning to use the old school concrete top with 2x2 tiles for my wet kitchen. Would it be possible to fix a undermount sink (like the picture below) to this type of concrete table top?

As I think it's not easy to cast the concrete to the precise dimension to fit the sink, also if they can cut the tiles so precise as well. So not sure if it's suitable to use this type of sink.

Thanks

Yes, its doable and its a common setting.

Just make sure to buy your sink, hood & hob and pass them to your contractor before start work

Consider granite top. instead of 2x2 tiles

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 4 2023, 11:43 AM

Noted with thanks.

About the granite top, is it something like those used on the melamine kitchen cabinet? As I'm planning to use the RC top for the wet kitchen, not sure if this is suitable?

BTW I noticed that there are basically 2 tyes of finishing on the stainless steel undermount sink. With the curved corner vs right angle corner as per the pictures below.

May I know what are the pros and cons, and which one do you prefer and the reason?

Thanks

Those on melamine cabinetry kitchen top framing, normally is quartz (dry lay).

Granite top is normally (wet lay) with mortar to concrete top. I am suggesting granite in-lieu of tiles (you originally mentioned; tiles very unfavourable)

You can use quartz, granite or even marble onto concrete top (wet lay). Its up to your preference/ cost

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 4 2023, 04:05 PM

I see. From your experience, do you know roughly how much will this cost and what are the benefits if compare with the 2x2 tiles?

Thanks

I too have limited experience, just sharing.

Cost, you gotta check.

Quartz and granite hovers ard 25-30mm thick, meanwhile even if you use homogeneous tiles its only 10mm thick. Secondly Q & Granite slab weight (being heavier) sets in better in the mortar bedding, compare to tiles. 2x2 tiles tends to wrap at corners, you will have tile pointing flatness problem between tiles. For a kitchen counter top that is crucial (for me)

Any chopping area in particular, tiles is a no no (in my opinion, specially you mentioned 2x2)

For a one time mind free rework, engage a reliable wet trade contractor to do the RC from plinth to top finish. Don't forget the backsplash skirt

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 4 2023, 05:32 PM

thanks for the reply

about the backsplash, since there will be wall tiles at the back, is it still necessary to have the backsplash skirt?

Quick question.

Is it normal for granite sink to need more frequent cleaning compared to metal sink?

Optional, on you.
Me, i do because i am kind of particular to have a good termination finish. I don't like to see the last line of grout pointing at the edge and wall. Pointing is never a straight, even line termination (to me la).

Maintenance and sipping too is a consideration here

thanks for the info, will look around about this as well.

also about the pillar tap for sinks, normally for the dry kitchen i see it's bottom mounted.

for the wet kitchen, as i plan to use the normal 2x2 tiles for the table top, normally i see the contractor will put the water outlet on the wall instead. as i'm planning to use those extendable tap, mostly they are available in bottom mounted type.

would like to seek for some advice regarding this, bottom mounted tap vs wall mounted, pros and cons, etc.

thanks in advance

It can be done under the sink. Your contractor should know if that is your requirement.

ya i think so also. but just wanna see if there are any other pros and cons regarding the bottom mount vs wall mount.

from what i can see, for the wall mount tap, the table top will be clear and easier to clean. but might not be possible to have the pull out type as will need to hide the hose below the sink.

would like to see if there's any other considerations about this positioning of the tap?

No issue on bottom mounted. you will get your costing with the contractor quoting, they need to see the position of your existing tap source and floor trap, they know how to route the pipe works below your top.

Remember, there is still the waste pipe dischage routing below your kitchen top unless your existing floor trap is directly below your basin, so what not the incoming water piping to your pillar tap

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Jan 6 2023, 04:31 PM

I noticed that nowadays, some sinks are without the small hole opening at the top part for water overflowing. Just to ask, if this is normal?

Thanks

Been looking at sinks recently. Most don't come with the overflow hole.
most mind-bloggling thing is I remember seeing on double-bowl sink, the overflow hole is found in one bowl only.

not really, pretty much similar to stainless steel ones - only when it is constantly wet/moist (don't have proper aeration/breeze to dry) then it could have mold, but then again, that kind of condition (always damp/wet, no proper air circulation), almost anything will have mold over time

What is the correct way to support an undermount sink?

I was looking at my present sink and it appears the lip of the sink rests between the countertop and a plywood backing which the entire countertop sits on. It is probably also glued on to the plywood as well. No other supports. Is this the standard installation method in Malaysia?

YouTube videos from the West show brackets screwed directly on to the countertop underside which support the sink. They don't seems to use any backing wood or boards.

Based on my survey for a new kitchen, most KC companies now seem to only provide chipboard as backing for the countertop and I am wondering how well this will hold up over time. If the cabinet is much wider than the sink, the chipboard may sag over time, and water from washing dishes may run on the sink lip and get in through any gaps between the countertop and chipboard.

This is leading me to consider top mount sink for my new kitchen.

Anyone else have such concern or know why this may not be an issue?

Generally for wet kitchen, top mount or undermount is better? Quartz stone table top

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Mar 31 2023, 10:33 PM