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post Mar 21 2011, 08:57 PM, updated 15y ago

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Someone posted today about a proposed UOA Group IPO to take place soon.

We already have their REIT to invest in - which has not performed particularly well.

UOA Group is run and controlled by the (Singaporean) Kong family - headed by C.S. Kong together with his two daughters and a son.

Singaporean Cecelia Chan is the Property Director. She is well known in the developer world in KL - for various reasons...

The word is they are in the process of cleaning up their "story" in preparation for a listing and that CIMB will be the lead IB.

Any views on this "Chinaman" company and their chances for a successful IPO?

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post Mar 21 2011, 10:33 PM

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David, it is not a rumors.

I can get the MITI allocation thru my friend's bumiputra company.

Will be listed as UOA Development Berhad, price MYR3.00
BUMIPUTRA private placement : 119,586,000 shares.


Added on March 21, 2011, 10:35 pmDavid,

Here is the link if you wanna drill further.

http://www.miti.gov.my/cms/content.jsp?id=...1d1e1d-59eb8c81



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post Mar 21 2011, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Mar 21 2011, 10:33 PM)
David, it is not a rumors.

I can get the MITI allocation thru my friend's bumiputra company.

Will be listed as UOA Development Berhad, price MYR3.00
BUMIPUTRA private placement : 119,586,000 shares.


Added on March 21, 2011, 10:35 pmDavid,

Here is the link if you wanna drill further.

http://www.miti.gov.my/cms/content.jsp?id=...1d1e1d-59eb8c81
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Thanks so much, mate! notworthy.gif

Will check out the docs...may be a good punt.

I am quite familiar with this company's senior management (the Kong family and Ms. Chan) over a few years and so I will be very interested when their prospectus comes out to see how they present themselves to the market. Kong is an engineer and not a sales or marketing guy - and his kids...well....you know how it goes with most 'successful' men's kids...... laugh.gif

Their property director is notorious in the KL property business; nearly all her staff leave within 90 days of joining and aparently she refuses to use a computer or read email! doh.gif

They have quite a big following by property investors on LYN already though: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1584595

The thread is big and shows there are a lot of pissed-off buyers for their latest project. hmm.gif

Their Camellia project at 'Bangsar South' is not doing very well. They call it "Bangsar South" - but it is actually 'Brickfields North' (Kerinchi). Binjai 8 is not yet sold. I hear that the Sphere is to be demolished and they will start again due to design faults.

Think they have a bit of "window dressing/sweeping-under-the-carpet/base-covering" to do before they finally list!

Nothing unusual in that though! Let's see their numbers and the analysis.

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post Mar 22 2011, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Mar 21 2011, 11:37 PM)


Nothing unusual in that though! Let's see their numbers and the analysis.

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You're welcome. So, please do drop by here and shares your insights. Can tumpang my fren. No need to apply IPO, which is hard to kena oso..
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:31 PM

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just wondering.. how to get these companies with miti shares to open account with me... drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Mar 21 2011, 10:33 PM)
David, it is not a rumors.

I can get the MITI allocation thru my friend's bumiputra company.

Will be listed as UOA Development Berhad, price MYR3.00
BUMIPUTRA private placement : 119,586,000 shares.


Added on March 21, 2011, 10:35 pmDavid,

Here is the link if you wanna drill further.

http://www.miti.gov.my/cms/content.jsp?id=...1d1e1d-59eb8c81
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How does the MITI allocation work? It will be allocated under whose account?
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for individual, just write in a simple letter requesting allocation of the shares with proof that you have the money to take up. If you are taking financing, your banker would provide a support letter.


Added on March 22, 2011, 10:23 pmabit doubtful about this IPO. Indicative price between RM3-3.5 while carries only a RM0.05 par value *tsk*tsk*tsk*.

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post Mar 23 2011, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(king_majesty @ Mar 22 2011, 10:16 PM)
for individual, just write in a simple letter requesting allocation of the shares with proof that you have the money to take up. If you are taking financing, your banker would provide a support letter.
Your letter will be filed nicely. Try it if you don't believe.

First, get the individual profile form. Then submit via some BUMI association - preferably Bumiputra Remisier Association. Seek up for info. Your form should have proof of funds : ASB, Savings, Salary Statements, EPF, Shares Local/Overseas etc.

Then they will generate a band, depending on your profile. * This I haven;t see. Example something like this:

Yearly Salary 100,000, Individual with Salary, Professional Group C2
Yearly Salary 100,000, Individual with Salary, Non Professional Group C3

Salary, Position, Company etc all taken into the pool for allocation for the available MITI allocation.

Anyone tried and successful? Do tell.
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post Apr 16 2011, 01:37 AM

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Hi,anyone out there who r looking for UOA Developement IPOs pls let me know.. I got some allocation left and looking for buyer.. theres a tnc applies. i heard it will listing on 25th April.. email me at glamourouge@yahoo.com


Added on April 16, 2011, 1:45 am
QUOTE(zamans98 @ Mar 23 2011, 12:07 AM)
Your letter will be filed nicely. Try it if you don't believe.

First, get the individual profile form. Then submit via some BUMI association - preferably Bumiputra Remisier Association. Seek up for info.  Your form should have proof of funds : ASB, Savings, Salary Statements, EPF, Shares Local/Overseas etc.

Then they will generate a band, depending on your profile. * This I haven;t see. Example something like this:

Yearly Salary 100,000, Individual with Salary, Professional  Group C2
Yearly Salary 100,000, Individual with Salary, Non Professional  Group C3

Salary, Position, Company etc all taken into the pool for allocation for the available MITI allocation.

Anyone tried and successful? Do tell.
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Hi,i can get allocation for good counter IPOs. Individual or for company comes together with loan financing. pls email me at glamourouge@yahoo.com for futher details.

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Mar 23 2011, 12:07 AM)
Your letter will be filed nicely. Try it if you don't believe.

First, get the individual profile form. Then submit via some BUMI association - preferably Bumiputra Remisier Association. Seek up for info.  Your form should have proof of funds : ASB, Savings, Salary Statements, EPF, Shares Local/Overseas etc.

Then they will generate a band, depending on your profile. * This I haven;t see. Example something like this:

Yearly Salary 100,000, Individual with Salary, Professional  Group C2
Yearly Salary 100,000, Individual with Salary, Non Professional  Group C3

Salary, Position, Company etc all taken into the pool for allocation for the available MITI allocation.

Anyone tried and successful? Do tell.
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have u tried this before
is it really complicated
seems interesting, 100% chance to get ar icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 20 2011, 01:34 PM

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For UOA Developmt Bhd, based on total issued shares of 1,195,860,000, mkt cap of IPO approx. RM3.5b (assume IPO price at RM3.00)..

The parent company is actually listed in Singapore and Australia.. Based on 982m shares outstanding, current market cap of parent company SGD658m (SGD0.67)..

Given that UOA DB is a wholly owned subsidiary, the parent company seems undervalued at current price.. (my personal opinion only)


Added on April 28, 2011, 10:16 amProposed Listing of UOA Development Bhd on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia Securities Bhd

The company refers to previous announcements in respect of the proposed listing of UOA Development Bhd on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia Securities Bhd (Kuala Lumpur Stock Exchange).

Agreement in principle has been received from the Securities Commission of Malaysia for the issuance of a prospectus to facilitate this transaction.

It is expected the prospectus will be launched on approximately 18th May and subsequent listing and quotation on the Kuala Lumpur Stock Exchange in the second week of June.

There will be a total of 287 million new shares and 120 million offer for sale shares (from UOA group) in the Initial Public Offering.

After the issue of the IPO shares the company will retain approximately 65% of the newly listed entity.


Added on May 11, 2011, 4:57 pmKUALA LUMPUR: UOA Development Bhd has taken a step closer toward listing on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia after it inked a retail underwriting agreement with its underwriters.

The Underwriters for the company's initial public offering (IPO) are CIMB Investment Bank Berhad, RHB Investment Bank Berhad, OSK Investment Bank Berhad, HwangDBS Investment Bank Berhad and Hong Leong Investment Bank Berhad.

UOA Development chief operating officer David Khor Soo Beng in a statement Wednesday, May 11 said that the implementation of large scale projects like the Mass Rapid Transit would further enhance the value of properties as well as create a sustainable property market in Klang Valley.

CIMB Group corporate and investment banking deputy chief executive Datuk Charon Wardini thanked the property development group for appointing CIMB as its Principal Adviser, Sole Bookrunner, Managing Underwriter, and Joint Underwriter.

“We are also proud to be associated with UOA Development's impressive journey of growth and to be part of this major milestone in its corporate history.

“This IPO marks yet another landmark achievement for the company and we look forward to being a prominent partner to UOA Development in its next phase of growth,” he said.

UOA Development is involved in property development, construction and property investment. Its development projects are in matured and prime locations, centralised within the Klang Valley.

The company recently received approval from the Securities Commission (SC) the proposed listing of its entire enlarged issued and paid-up share capital of up to 1.19 billion ordinary shares 5 sen each on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia within the first half of 2011.

The IPO consists of an institutional offering of up to of 337 million shares to Malaysian and foreign institutional and selected investors and a retail offering of 70 million shares to the Malaysian public, eligible directors and employees of UOA Development and its subsidiaries and persons who have contributed to the success of UOA Development and its subsidiaries.


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post May 18 2011, 11:02 AM

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Anyone applied this? Up for applications

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post May 18 2011, 11:20 AM

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RM2.90 Per Share
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is it under properties.. historical before share under prop likes ivory and sunreit are not perform very well
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post May 18 2011, 01:34 PM

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Issuer UOA Development Bhd
Issue Price (RM) 2.90
Par Value (RM) 0.05
Board Main Market
Sector Properties
Public Issue :
Private Placement 287,000,000
Offer for Sale :
Malaysian Public 60,000,000
Private Placement 50,000,000
Directors,Employees,
Business Associates 10,000,000
Adviser(s) CIMB Investment Bank Berhad

Listing Schedule
Prospectus Date 18/05/2011
Opening of Applications 18/05/2011
Closing of Applications 25/05/2011
Tentative Balloting Date 27/05/2011
Tentative Allotment Date 06/06/2011
Tentative Listing Date 08/06/2011

No application will be accepted after the closing
date

Closing date is tentative and may subject to
change. Any changes to the above schedule will
be announced in a widely circulated Bahasa
Malaysia and English daily newspaper within
Malaysia.

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post May 18 2011, 01:46 PM

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this company is doing wat biz geh? any1 can clarify?
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means is construction base?
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QUOTE(ahcheap @ May 18 2011, 01:48 PM)
Property Developer
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ May 18 2011, 11:02 AM)
Anyone applied this? Up for applications
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today open for application already?
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Their website.

http://www.uoa.com.my/main.php


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issue this IPO for debt related?
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post May 18 2011, 02:14 PM

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THE INITIAL PUBLIC OFFERING (“IPO” OR “OFFERING”) OF UP TO 407.00 MILLION ORDINARY SHARES OF RM 0.05 EACH IN UOA DEVELOPMENT BHD (“UOA DEVELOPMENT”) (“SHARES”), IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LISTING OF AND QUOTATION FOR 1,195.86 MILLION SHARES ON THE MAIN MARKET OF BURSA MALAYSIA SECURITIES BERHAD, COMPRISING:

(I) OFFER FOR SALE OF UP TO 120.00 MILLION EXISTING SHARES (“OFFER SHARES”) COMPRISING:

• INSTITUTIONAL OFFERING OF UP TO 50.00 MILLION OFFER SHARES TO MALAYSIAN AND FOREIGN INSTITUTIONAL AND SELECTED INVESTORS AT THE INSTITUTIONAL PRICE TO BE DETERMINED BY WAY OF BOOKBUILDING (“INSTITUTIONAL PRICE”) PAYABLE IN FULL UPON ALLOCATION; AND

• RETAIL OFFERING OF 70.00 MILLION OFFER SHARES TO THE MALAYSIAN PUBLIC, ELIGIBLE DIRECTORS OF UOA DEVELOPMENT, ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES OF UOA DEVELOPMENT AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES AND PERSONS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE SUCCESS OF UOA DEVELOPMENT AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES AT THE RETAIL PRICE OF RM2.90 PER SHARE (“RETAIL PRICE”), PAYABLE IN FULL UPON APPLICATION AND SUBJECT TO REFUND OF THE DIFFERENCE, IN THE EVENT THAT THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE IS LESS THAN THE RETAIL PRICE; AND

(II) PUBLIC ISSUE OF 287.00 MILLION NEW SHARES TO MALAYSIAN AND FOREIGN INSTITUTIONAL AND SELECTED INVESTORS INCLUDING BUMIPUTERA INVESTORS APPROVED BY THE MINISTRY OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND INDUSTRY AT THE INSTITUTIONAL PRICE PAYABLE IN FULL UPON ALLOCATION,

SUBJECT TO THE CLAWBACK AND REALLOCATION PROVISIONS AND OVER-ALLOTMENT OPTION (AS DEFINED HEREIN). THE FINAL RETAIL PRICE WILL BE EQUAL TO THE LOWER OF (I) THE RETAIL PRICE; AND (II) 97.00% OF THE INSTITUTIONAL PRICE, SUBJECT TO ROUNDING TO THE NEAREST SEN.

Prospectus ; http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...ectus/index.jsp

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property developer like?? sunway?
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My advice to newbies is: if you do not recognise a company's name and have no idea what business it is in .... then you have no business applying for its IPO shares. Applying for IPO does not mean you'll make money. Some IPOs go below its offer price on listing day itself.
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Issue Price (RM) 2.90 biggrin.gif
Par Value (RM) 0.05 shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Veda @ May 18 2011, 05:14 PM)
My advice to newbies is: if you do not recognise a company's name and have no idea what business it is in .... then you have no business applying for its IPO shares. Applying for IPO does not mean you'll make money. Some IPOs go below its offer price on listing day itself.
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QUOTE(Veda @ May 18 2011, 04:14 PM)
My advice to newbies is: if you do not recognise a company's name and have no idea what business it is in .... then you have no business applying for its IPO shares. Applying for IPO does not mean you'll make money. Some IPOs go below its offer price on listing day itself.
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ya..better do some research before u trying to get their IPO
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1801201

Thread already exist.. mr. kb2005...
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 18 2011, 05:42 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1801201

Thread already exist.. mr. kb2005...
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That thread is under rumour section ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Veda @ May 18 2011, 04:14 PM)
My advice to newbies is: if you do not recognise a company's name and have no idea what business it is in .... then you have no business applying for its IPO shares. Applying for IPO does not mean you'll make money. Some IPOs go below its offer price on listing day itself.
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like MCLEAN? whistling.gif
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Developing at Kerinchi okay or not??? I have no idea on it...

The stupid UOA named it as what Bangsar South la... It is actually Kerinchi...

Any people with great comment and info?

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I'm in for a quick ride.

Putting in maximum 5,000 shares. (if can get lar)

Don't think too much on how it will do then after. Its a HIT and RUN.

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QUOTE(TheBomb @ May 18 2011, 05:11 PM)
Issue Price (RM) 2.90 biggrin.gif
Par Value (RM) 0.05  shocking.gif
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I also don't understand why IPO price is RM2.90 but par value is only RM0.05!
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 18 2011, 11:47 PM)
I also don't understand why IPO price is RM2.90 but par value is only RM0.05!
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Then what do you want?

at 100cents par value, it will cost you 29MYR each share... or 14.50MYR at 50 cents par value..Apa macam, got balls to buy meh?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 18 2011, 08:19 PM)
That thread is under rumour section ? tongue.gif
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Someone who can change the topic thread please do so, It is not rumour, it is the fact d~!


Added on May 19, 2011, 12:11 am
QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 18 2011, 11:49 PM)
Then what do you want?

at 100cents par value, it will cost you 29MYR each share...  or  14.50MYR at 50 cents par value..Apa macam, got balls to buy meh?
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100 cents par value = RM 59 each blink.gif blink.gif , at 50 cents it is already at price at RM 29 each

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QUOTE(andrewckj @ May 19 2011, 12:09 AM)
Someone who can change the topic thread please do so, It is not rumour, it is the fact d~!


Added on May 19, 2011, 12:11 am

100 cents par value = RM 59 each  blink.gif  blink.gif , at 50 cents it is already at price at RM 29 each
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i'll leave my comment until the prospectus release to public

only blue chip stock manage to hit that price!
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ May 19 2011, 12:09 AM)
Someone who can change the topic thread please do so, It is not rumour, it is the fact d~!


Added on May 19, 2011, 12:11 am

100 cents par value = RM 59 each  blink.gif  blink.gif , at 50 cents it is already at price at RM 29 each
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ya lor.. shiet, salah calculate... demn stupiak me.
RM1 = 58MYR, 0.50 = 29, 0.10 = 5.80, 0.05 = 2.90.... yay

change d title...


Added on May 19, 2011, 12:24 am
QUOTE(yhtan @ May 19 2011, 12:22 AM)
i'll leave my comment until the prospectus release to public

only blue chip stock manage to hit that price!
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bos, you still dreaming ka?? shakehead.gif

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...us%20(71KB).pdf

Go look at bursa website. Even its in most e-banking for e-IPO application



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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 19 2011, 12:22 AM)
i'll leave my comment until the prospectus release to public

only blue chip stock manage to hit that price!
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Bro, out already. Go check out their prospectus at http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...pos/prospectus/

Don't miss the boat if you are interested. Wall of text, I'm reading their prospectus..lols..
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why this share is not lisitng on maybank2u for applying ???
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yalo..i cannot seeing any ipo by using maybank2u too...
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It is available on my CIMB a/c
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 18 2011, 11:49 PM)
Then what do you want?

at 100cents par value, it will cost you 29MYR each share...  or  14.50MYR at 50 cents par value..Apa macam, got balls to buy meh?
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I just curious why the par value so low and this make the IPO price of RM2.90 very expensive. Balls i sure have. Whether i want to join or not, then i need to think.
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QUOTE(kailc @ May 19 2011, 08:58 AM)
why this share is not lisitng on maybank2u for applying ???
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Simple : Maybank SUCKS?
U got other choices, CIMB, Public, Hong Leong etc etc
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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ May 19 2011, 09:24 AM)
yalo..i cannot seeing any ipo by using maybank2u too...
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It was in my itrade since yesterday. You may want to call Maybank to check.
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anyone got the prospectus for this IPO?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 19 2011, 09:53 AM)
I just curious why the par value so low and this make the IPO price of RM2.90 very expensive. Balls i sure have. Whether i want to join or not, then i need to think.
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actually why so obsess about par value??

valuation of stocks is derived from earnings, sum part value, div, etc and not par value....why so concern??

Par value is merely a reference for event as follows:
1) when a company declared dividend by way of say 10% which means = 10% of par value.....but it does not matter much as the company can choose to declare in say 10 cents , 20 cents, etc instead of percentage of par....


2) par value is only use as reference when determining the rights issues price as company are not allow to set price below par....


"correct me if i am wrong".... cool2.gif

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anyone got the prospectus for this IPO?
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Aiyo... : http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...pos/prospectus/

Bookmark the link, or check bursamalaysia.com.my


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why this share is not lisitng on maybank2u for applying ???
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Refer to Section 20.6 of the prospectus. Internet application is only available via CIMB.

However, you may apply through ATMs of several banks, including Maybank.


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Haiz..WTF..Apply Maybank Saving Account. Failed... !!
Have to take 3 weeks to apply NEW IC !!
NO luck to apply IPO... sad.gif
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Refer to Section 20.6 of the prospectus. Internet application is only available via CIMB.

However, you may apply through ATMs of several banks, including Maybank.
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later every investment bank would have an exclusive right for certain IPO .. vmad.gif
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Haiz..WTF..Apply Maybank Saving Account. Failed... !!
Have to take 3 weeks to apply NEW IC !!
NO luck to apply IPO... sad.gif
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Apply private placement MYR250,000 or 83,000 shares

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Apply private placement MYR250,000 or 83,000 shares
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Apply private placement MYR250,000 or 83,000 shares
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later every investment bank would have an exclusive right for certain IPO ..  vmad.gif
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Yeah, I'm also mad.gif that the internet application can only be done through the bank managing the IPO.

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So the conclusion is we can only apply thru CIMB clicks?
cos i dun hv bullets in CIMB account, if really so then I hv to transfer my bullets to CIMB account then.
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QUOTE(ahcheap @ May 20 2011, 12:04 AM)
So the conclusion is we can only apply thru CIMB clicks?
cos i dun hv bullets in CIMB account, if really so then I hv to transfer my bullets to CIMB account then.
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I beliep RHB and Hong Reong Beng got oso.. Can somebodey plrese compom diz?
Else only CIMB.


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Crap, can't apply through Internet via maybank. WTF~!!!!
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This IPO worth to buy?
RM 2.90 seem like abit expensive!
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This IPO worth to buy?
RM 2.90 seem like abit expensive!
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Bro, don't buy then. Easy, why comes up with all the negativity and comments?

READ THIS :

LinkedIn shares rose as high as $122.70 before closing up 109% at $94.25 a share. The closing price gave the Mountain View, Calif., company an eye-popping market value of nearly $9 billion, 37 times 2010 revenue of $243 million. By way of comparison, job hunting site Monster.com, a product of the first Internet boom, has a market cap of $1.9 billion, a paltry 1.7 times sales.

"It was very reminiscent of the good old days in Silicon Valley when a company trades on sentiment, not fundamentals"


Do you know LINKEDIN.com?



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Guys some news from thestar.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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QUOTE(georgechang79 @ May 20 2011, 01:22 PM)
Guys some news from thestar.




The joint underwriters for the retail offering are CIMB Investment Bank, RHB Investment Bank Bhd, OSK Investment Bank Bhd, HwangDBS Investment Bank Bhd and Hong Leong Investment Bank Bhd.

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ok,Well well well...

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Guys,

Any reports produced by any reserach houses on the expected fair value?..

Cheers


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Any reports produced by any reserach houses on the expected fair value?..

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MYR3.80, sorry can't reveal the source. Hearsay from a leading Broker House.
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I will try 50-100lots on this. Not yet decide on the actual lot size. Will decide next week.
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can start to buy this ipo already?
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Can apply since 2-3days ago.
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may i know wre can apply this ipo?
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QUOTE(02mini @ May 20 2011, 04:45 PM)
may i know wre can apply this ipo?
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CIMB Investment Bank, RHB Investment Bank Bhd, OSK Investment Bank Bhd, HwangDBS Investment Bank Bhd and Hong Leong Investment Bank Bhd.

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means maybank cant apply for this ipo..
when is the due date for this ipo application?
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I already have Hwangdbs account ~~ But i thought have to apply thru bank ?? I havent see any maybank have UOA IPO yet...
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DUE 25 MAY.. MAYDAY MAYDAY..

My advice, please open a CIMB savings account. Don't be butt hurt and ranting how is that not fair bla bla bla.

For your info, upcoming big IPO and 1 mega IPO - mostly CIMB as principle. So??
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DUE 25 MAY.. MAYDAY MAYDAY..

My advice, please open a CIMB savings account. Don't be butt hurt and ranting how is that not fair bla bla bla.

For your info, upcoming big IPO and 1 mega IPO - mostly CIMB as principle. So??
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 19 2011, 11:50 AM)
Aiyo... : http://www.klse.com.my/website/bm/listed_c...pos/prospectus/

Bookmark the link, or check bursamalaysia.com.my
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Newbie here. Mind if i ask, what is the vital info you normally screen through in the prospectus?
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Newbie here. Mind if i ask, what is the vital info you normally screen through in the prospectus?
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Nothing for me. I just kelik and buy. Studi hard2x the prospectus what for if your target is super short term?

2nd - sell on listing day.

3rd - avoid CHINA based kompeni.
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UOA is opened for application to the public and the closing date is 25 May 2011 (Wednesday).



If you are interested to apply for the IPO, you have to apply thru the ATM as it is not available thru www.maybank2u.com.my:



Slot in your ATM card, Key in your PIN, press continue and continue; then following the following steps



Other transaction (Right)

Payment (Right)

Share Application (Left)

electronic share application (Right)

Yes (Right)

Yes (Right)

Yes (Right)

Key in your Race (Left)

Key in CDS number

Yes (Right)

choose UOA (left)

Key in units

Yes (Right)

check details are correct and confirm Yes (Right)



Keep your transaction slip for record
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QUOTE(protonw @ May 21 2011, 02:50 PM)
UOA is opened for application to the public and the closing date is 25 May 2011 (Wednesday).



If you are interested to apply for the IPO, you have to apply thru the ATM as it is not available thru www.maybank2u.com.my:



Slot in your ATM card, Key in your PIN, press continue and continue; then following the following steps



Other transaction (Right)

Payment (Right)

Share Application (Left)

electronic share application (Right)

Yes (Right)

Yes (Right)

Yes (Right)

Key in your Race (Left)

Key in CDS number

Yes (Right)

choose UOA (left)

Key in units

Yes (Right)

check details are correct and confirm Yes (Right)



Keep your transaction slip for record
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that means can go to Maybank ATM to apply?
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QUOTE(ahcheap @ May 21 2011, 04:48 PM)
that means can go to Maybank ATM to apply?
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yes..
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that means can go to Maybank ATM to apply?
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Yes, I read the prospectus already. Section 20 said that Maybank and most major ATMS can apply this IPO. For internet application however, is limited to CIMB only.
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Yes, I read the prospectus already. Section 20 said that Maybank and most major ATMS can apply this IPO. For internet application however, is limited to CIMB only.
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Ok thx. If I knew it earlier i wouldnt transfer money from Maybank to CIMB bank yesterday doh.gif
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only if i got 100K in my hands... can apply big lots...
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Just applied through HLB ATM.
I suppose the price is RM 2.90 per share.
But after I keyed in 5 lots, the total amount shown in the ATM screen is RM 145.00 only.
HLB keyed in the wrong price?
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 22 2011, 06:23 PM)
Just applied through HLB ATM.
I suppose the price is RM 2.90 per share.
But after I keyed in 5 lots, the total amount shown in the ATM screen is RM 145.00 only.
HLB keyed in the wrong price?
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5 lots = 500 units I assumed?

500* 2.9 = Rm 1,450.

Error? 0.o?
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 22 2011, 06:23 PM)
Just applied through HLB ATM.
I suppose the price is RM 2.90 per share.
But after I keyed in 5 lots, the total amount shown in the ATM screen is RM 145.00 only.
HLB keyed in the wrong price?
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i think you want to apply 5000 shares, right ? Today lot size is 100, so you need to key in 50lots instead of 5 lots.
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Can I use my fren Maybank account to apply IPO thru my CDS number ?!!
Hope can help ! THANKS GUYS !!
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Dear sifus, can i apply thru Public Bank ATM????? PLS HELP URGENT
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 22 2011, 06:23 PM)
Just applied through HLB ATM.
I suppose the price is RM 2.90 per share.
But after I keyed in 5 lots, the total amount shown in the ATM screen is RM 145.00 only.
HLB keyed in the wrong price?
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Im guessing its similar with Maybank ATM which i used to apply today for myself.

It asks for 'lots' but in turn what it means is shares. So if you want to apply for 1000 shares for RM2.9k, you need to input 1000, and not 10.

For your case if u want to apply for 500 shares, then input 500 instead of 5.
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QUOTE(tineagle @ May 22 2011, 09:17 PM)
Im guessing its similar with Maybank ATM which i used to apply today for myself.

It asks for 'lots' but in turn what it means is shares.  So if you want to apply for 1000 shares for RM2.9k, you need to input 1000, and not 10.

For your case if u want to apply for 500 shares, then input 500 instead of 5.
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1000 shares for 2.9k ? Are you sure ??
I thought 10 lots x 100 = 2.9k... ??
10 lots = RM2900 ..

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QUOTE(tineagle @ May 22 2011, 09:17 PM)
Im guessing its similar with Maybank ATM which i used to apply today for myself.

It asks for 'lots' but in turn what it means is shares.  So if you want to apply for 1000 shares for RM2.9k, you need to input 1000, and not 10.

For your case if u want to apply for 500 shares, then input 500 instead of 5.
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In alexander3133's case, RM145 means 50 shares, yet he keyed in '5 lots'.

Just to confirm, Maybank ATM uses 'lots' instead of 'units'?


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URGENT !!
Can I use my fren Maybank account to apply IPO thru my CDS number ?!!
Hope can help ! THANKS GUYS !!
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I don't think so. Logically, your bank a/c name should be the same as CDS name.

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QUOTE(Veda @ May 22 2011, 09:26 PM)
In  alexander3133's case, RM145 means 50 shares, yet he keyed in '5 lots'.

Just to confirm, Maybank ATM uses 'lots' instead of 'units'?
But... the ATM screen there clearly wrote lot not share.
The receipt printed out from the ATM also writing lot.
I don't dare to key in 50 that time because just in case they made mistake in the pricing or quantity, I have not much money to pay them.

1 unit = RM 2.90
1 lot = 100 units = RM 290
5 lots = 500 units = RM RM 1450

I just scare the "in case". sweat.gif

So, if happened to be "unit" instead of "lot", am I able to edit my order? Because I already applied.

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 22 2011, 11:37 PM)
But... the ATM screen there clearly wrote lot not share.
The receipt printed out from the ATM also writing lot.
I don't dare to key in 50 that time because just in case they made mistake in the pricing or quantity, I have not much money to pay them.

1 unit = RM 2.90
1 lot = 100 units = RM 290
5 lots = 500 units = RM RM 1450

I just scare the "in case".  sweat.gif

So, if happened to be "unit" instead of "lot", am I able to edit my order? Because I already applied.
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Bro Alexander3133,
If you keyed in 50 that time and your account doesn't have sufficient fund, i believe that the transaction will not proceed. Just my 2 cents biggrin.gif
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Bro Alexander3133,
If you keyed in 50 that time and your account doesn't have sufficient fund, i believe that the transaction will not proceed. Just my 2 cents biggrin.gif
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That is true.
There is another reason why I think they keyed in the wrong share price is because:
When the ATM machine prompted me to enter the quantity in lot, it only allows me to enter 3 digits.
which mean the valid range is from 1 to 999.
So if the quantity is in unit instead of shares, the max you can apply is just 999 shares which I don't think is true.

For my pocket sake, I just play safe and entered 5 instead of 50. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 23 2011, 12:20 AM)
That is true.
There is another reason why I think they keyed in the wrong share price is because:
When the ATM machine prompted me to enter the quantity in lot, it only allows me to enter 3 digits.
which mean the valid range is from 1 to 999.
So if the quantity is in unit instead of shares, the max you can apply is just 999 shares which I don't think is true.

For my pocket sake, I just play safe and entered 5 instead of 50.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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tomolo, u can call up your bank and confirm.
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 22 2011, 11:37 PM)
But... the ATM screen there clearly wrote lot not share.
The receipt printed out from the ATM also writing lot.
I don't dare to key in 50 that time because just in case they made mistake in the pricing or quantity, I have not much money to pay them.

1 unit = RM 2.90
1 lot = 100 units = RM 290
5 lots = 500 units = RM RM 1450

I just scare the "in case".  sweat.gif

So, if happened to be "unit" instead of "lot", am I able to edit my order? Because I already applied.
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It's best to give your bank's customer service line a call........

I'll be applying this evening, hope didn't get any unpleasant surprises.
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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ May 22 2011, 09:22 PM)
1000 shares for 2.9k ? Are you sure ??
I thought 10 lots x 100 = 2.9k... ??
10 lots = RM2900 ..
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yes, because i tried all sorts of numbers before confirming and input 1000 will charge me RM 2,900. Anything above my balance returns an insufficient funds error.
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every time,IPOthread become an education thread of how to apply IPO to some noobs.No one is discussing their biz.
my view,despite low but not so low pe,no much upside as other property stock has better land bank
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QUOTE(andyhui @ May 23 2011, 11:36 AM)
every time,IPOthread become an education thread of how to apply IPO to some noobs.No one is discussing their biz.
my view,despite low but not so low pe,no much upside as other property stock has better land bank
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bos, you are entirely wrong. why only read the last 2 pages and came up with that silly conclusion? Go read from 1st page, ok

There are 4 pages of healthy discussion.

At the end of the day, it depends on the individual to what sort of strategy they are after. Long term, short, hit and run etc.
If for Hit and Run - none of the ratios, business etc make sense to them. WHO CARES, get IPO dump on 1st day. LOL
A lot of things doesn't make sense for example in Smartag - traders/punters are just driving the price crazy. shakehead.gif

So, no harm whatsoever. Their money, their choice. thumbup.gif

You probably spend hundred of manhours trying to FIGURE out if its a GOOD BUY or not. Other people just spend 1-2 hours to make more money than you spend your effort on analyzing some numbers.

in the end, if people wanna goreng, they will goreng whatever price that will make no SENSE to you.


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Can I use my fren Maybank account to apply IPO thru my CDS number ?!!
Hope can help ! THANKS GUYS !!
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no you can't. your application will be rejected. the name of the cds account and paying bank account must match.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 23 2011, 01:34 PM)
bos, you are entirely wrong. why only read the last 2 pages and came up with that silly conclusion? Go read from 1st page, ok

There are 4 pages of healthy discussion.

At the end of the day, it depends on the individual to what sort of strategy they are after. Long term, short, hit and run etc.
If for Hit and Run - none of the ratios, business etc make sense to them. WHO CARES, get IPO dump on 1st day. LOL
A lot of things doesn't make sense for example in Smartag - traders/punters are just driving the price crazy.  shakehead.gif

So, no harm whatsoever. Their money, their choice.  thumbup.gif

You probably spend hundred of manhours trying to FIGURE out if its a GOOD BUY or not. Other people just spend 1-2 hours to make more money than you spend your effort on analyzing some numbers.

in the end, if people wanna goreng, they will goreng whatever price that will make no SENSE to you.
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I mean even the 2 pages no nid to exist as every time the Q & A is repeated, am i said the the whole thread is discuing about how to apply IPO?

well..
if just goreng n goreng, hit n run thingy, there is no point open a thread here..bcos it is like kopitiam already.
The IPO education can ask the moderator to open a special thread for a newbie if it still not exist
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I mean even the 2 pages no nid to exist as every time the Q & A is repeated, am i said the the whole thread is discuing about how to apply IPO?

well..
if just goreng n goreng, hit n run thingy, there is no point open a thread here..bcos it is like kopitiam already.
The IPO education can ask the moderator to open a special thread for a newbie if it still not exist
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yo andy, y so particular abt noob

in a forum we have so many diff level and knowledgeable individual

let it be...if noob need help, just help lo...
if u dont like to help then just dont help and wait for the forumer that u like appear and chat with the ppl that you like abt strategy or biz...
or post your thought and those that like u will sure reply and discussion will continue from there.

like me also, although seldom post but i benefit a lot from the feedback in the forum so those post that does not benefit me, i just ignore becoz others might benefit from it

this is public forum ma so cannot expect, it to just cater for you...

so how many lots are you applying?


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QUOTE(period8 @ May 23 2011, 11:09 PM)
yo andy, y so particular abt noob

in a forum we have so many diff level and knowledgeable individual

let it be...if noob need help, just help lo...
if u dont like to help then just dont help and wait for the forumer that u like appear and chat with the ppl that you like abt strategy or biz...
or post your thought and those that like u will sure reply and discussion will continue from there.

like me also, although seldom post but i benefit a lot from the feedback in the forum so those post that does not benefit me, i just ignore becoz others might benefit from it

this is public forum ma so cannot expect, it to just cater for you...

so how many lots are you applying?
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wahlau eh... true2x... sapport.

Andy, no heart feeling ya. Maybe we here all are small time traders, not like you big shot traders and investors.
For us, any tom, d*** and harry shares which can get us some PROFIT we will go for it, not to mentioned hot IPO.


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I have applied 100lots through i-Trade-IPO. Now pending balloting. biggrin.gif
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On board too, I applied 4k units only. Save some bullets for others.
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On board too, I applied 4k units only. Save some bullets for others.
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when is this IPO open??
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QUOTE(period8 @ May 23 2011, 11:09 PM)
yo andy, y so particular abt noob

in a forum we have so many diff level and knowledgeable individual

let it be...if noob need help, just help lo...
if u dont like to help then just dont help and wait for the forumer that u like appear and chat with the ppl that you like abt strategy or biz...
or post your thought and those that like u will sure reply and discussion will continue from there.

like me also, although seldom post but i benefit a lot from the feedback in the forum so those post that does not benefit me, i just ignore becoz others might benefit from it

this is public forum ma so cannot expect, it to just cater for you...

so how many lots are you applying?
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not applying after go through the whole prospectus...cheers
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not applying after go through the whole prospectus...cheers
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when is this IPO open??
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Front of the prospectus, on 8 June WED

QUOTE(andyhui @ May 24 2011, 09:24 AM)
not applying after go through the whole prospectus...cheers
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LOL, why? Your judgment is based on prospectus or you got insider news?

Anyway, it doesn't matter to me, as long its not CHINA KOMPENI
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I applied manually via CIMB atm (long story , so cut it short), and then just got the application from OSK and already courier the application form together with my ATM slip, IC photocopy to MIH. Good luck to myself.
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Seems like attract a lots of interest hmmm will consider it too smile.gif
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I applied manually via CIMB atm (long story , so cut it short), and then just got the application from OSK and already courier the application form together with my ATM slip, IC photocopy to MIH. Good luck to myself.
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What? I remember I used to do that, around 20 years ago... can't imagine there are still ppl doing that tongue.gif
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What? I remember I used to do that, around 20 years ago... can't imagine there are still ppl doing that tongue.gif
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I thought you are 20 years old, kinda rich to me.
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QUOTE(ahcheap @ May 24 2011, 12:18 PM)
I applied manually via CIMB atm (long story , so cut it short), and then just got the application from OSK and already courier the application form together with my ATM slip, IC photocopy to MIH. Good luck to myself.
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wah, really OLD School..
Upon receiving at MIH, they will be laughing all the way... jk jk

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I thought you are 20 years old, kinda rich to me.
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Oops... leak out my age... correction, I used to help ppl do that during that time, got forms to fill & 2 envelopes to send, every time need to recycle the photocopy of IC some more... yawn.gif
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Oops... leak out my age... correction, I used to help ppl do that during that time, got forms to fill & 2 envelopes to send, every time need to recycle the photocopy of IC some more...  yawn.gif
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i remember my mum used to do that during 90's

always go bank to prepare several bank draft and lend I/C from relative laugh.gif
the form is like size of newspaper
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i remember my mum used to do that during 90's

always go bank to prepare several bank draft and lend I/C from relative laugh.gif
the form is like size of newspaper
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Normally will ask the shop/bookstore to stock the paper for you (buy in BUNDLE... lol)
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not applying after go through the whole prospectus...cheers
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bro mind to share ur analysis?

BTW i just applied in ATM today
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bro mind to share ur analysis?

BTW i just applied in ATM today
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Anyone going through the prospectus and doing their research on the family that actually runs this business and how it is allegedly "managed" by them and their cronies wouldn't touch this IPO with a ten foot pole.... hmm.gif

.....IMHO tongue.gif


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QUOTE(htt @ May 24 2011, 02:08 PM)
What? I remember I used to do that, around 20 years ago... can't imagine there are still ppl doing that tongue.gif
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Added on May 24, 2011, 8:32 pm
QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 24 2011, 02:33 PM)
wah, really OLD School..
Upon receiving at MIH, they will be laughing all the way... jk jk
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Oii u all laughing at me is it. hmm.gif


Actually I tried to activate my CIMB clicks on last friday but the link for First Time Login for CIMB Clicks was down for a few days until today. I didn't knw how long I need to wait therefore I applied manually on ATM on Monday and managed to send out my application today blush.gif .



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Anyone going through the prospectus and doing their research on the family that actually runs this business and how it is allegedly "managed" by them and their cronies wouldn't touch this IPO with a ten foot pole.... hmm.gif

.....IMHO tongue.gif
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Duh!

The flying school IPO was worst still. But did flew high on listing day. Why are you so worried?
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Duh!

The flying school IPO was worst still. But did flew high on listing day. Why are you so worried?
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Not worried old boy! icon_idea.gif
I'm not buying it.....you are.....! icon_rolleyes.gif

Think for a quick in/out strategy like yours, you should be fine! No harm in that. brows.gif
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Not worried old boy! icon_idea.gif
I'm not buying it.....you are.....! icon_rolleyes.gif

Think for a quick in/out strategy like yours, you should be fine! No harm in that. brows.gif
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aiyo, dun use the word old boy... sounds like ah pek liao.
Me not holding it long, just a QUICKIE..
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Issuer UOA Development Bhd
    Issue Price (RM)  2.90
    Par Value (RM)  0.05

    Board  Main Market
    Sector  Properties
    Public Issue : 
       Private Placement  287,000,000    
    Offer for Sale : 
       Malaysian Public  60,000,000    
       Private Placement  50,000,000    
       Directors,Employees,
       Business Associates  10,000,000    
    Adviser(s) CIMB Investment Bank Berhad

Listing Schedule
    Prospectus Date  18/05/2011
    Opening of Applications  18/05/2011
    Closing of Applications  25/05/2011
    Tentative Balloting Date  27/05/2011
    Tentative Allotment Date  06/06/2011
    Tentative Listing Date  08/06/2011
 
    No application will be accepted after the closing
    date

    Closing date is tentative and may subject to
    change. Any changes to the above schedule will
    be announced in a widely circulated Bahasa
    Malaysia and English daily newspaper within
    Malaysia.
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If you convert it to rm one par value, the IPO price is rm 58 per share, higher than many Blue Chips.

Kinda Super Blue for a property stock.

Earning per share must be very solid then

Good Luck.

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anyone can comfirm UOA reits is under this UOA group right? so the value is there .....
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actually why so obsess about par value??

valuation of stocks is derived from earnings, sum part value, div, etc and not par value....why so concern??

Par value is merely a reference for event as follows:
1)  when a company declared dividend by way of say 10% which means = 10% of par value.....but it does not matter much as the company can choose to declare in say 10 cents , 20 cents, etc instead of percentage of par....
2) par value is only use as reference when determining the rights issues price as company are not allow to set price below par....
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QUOTE(cwhong @ May 25 2011, 12:23 AM)
anyone can comfirm UOA reits is under this UOA group right? so the value is there .....
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Yes, UOA Reit and UOA Dev are under the same group.


Added on May 25, 2011, 12:41 amI'm selective about the IPOs that I apply and I like to browse through the prospectus ..... and I like UOA Dev. Maybe I'll list out the reasons tomorrow. Sleepy now.

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QUOTE(noswear @ May 19 2011, 11:18 AM)
actually why so obsess about par value??

valuation of stocks is derived from earnings, sum part value, div, etc and not par value....why so concern??

Par value is merely a reference for event as follows:
1)  when a company declared dividend by way of say 10% which means = 10% of par value.....but it does not matter much as the company can choose to declare in say 10 cents , 20 cents, etc instead of percentage of par....
2) par value is only use as reference when determining the rights issues price as company are not allow to set price below par....
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif You are absolutely right! Par Value is more to a reference as most analysts would not comment about it. What most important is that the PE ratio and the EPS of UOA that could have the power to swing the price. Just take a look at Genting Singapore, it has no par value, meaning ZERO par value, but that doesn't mean that the GENS stock is of no value. I read it somewhere before last time that Malaysia will soon move to an exchange without par value because it is irrelevant. We are still practicing it because UK are still practicing them, considering our closed knitted relationship with UK. rolleyes.gif

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To list such a property stock at the peak of the property market itself is a big doubt.

Do not forget, Asia is facing a real asset bubble burst at any moment. Not too difficult for a prop stock to have reasonable earning at this moment.

It is like many unit trusts want to launch their new funds at the peak of bull market.

Just my view.

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UOA Development Bhd IPO Target Price Fair Value RM3.45
UOA Development Bhd IPO closing date (Retail Offering 25 May 2011) and (Institutional Offering 26 May 2011).
UOA IPO price RM 2.90.
The UOA Development Retail Price will be fixed at RM2.90 or 97.00% of the Institutional Price, whichever lower, subject to a refund of the difference between the Final Retail Price and RM2.90 per Share.
The Institutional Price is by way of book-building. What is the target or expected institutional strike price or Retail Price? Very hard to say, example Maxis and JCY strike price was at the lower end but Pchem was at higher end.
Issuing house MIH-515 and listing date of UOA Development will be tentatively on 8 June 2011 in Bursa Main Market.
Whether can subscribe or apply UOA Development IPO, let us do a very simple PEGGY Method Evaluation.

PE: PE Ratio
G: Growth
G: Gearing
Y: Yield

Using UOA Development share price or Institutional IPO price of RM3.00.

UOA Development PE ratio is 26.2x (2010 Dec). Growing at 66.1% (2011), 41.3% (2012) and 29.6% (2013). PE ratio will then be 15.8x (2011), 11.2x (2012) and 8.6x (2013).

UOA Development net gearing is fairly high at 55.6%. Post IPO will drop to 4.8% (2011). The UOA Development dividend yield is 2.5% in 2011, and this is based on 40% dividend payout ratio. UOA Development dividend policy is dividend payout of 30% to 50%.

The above figure are by RHB and UOADEV target price fair value is RM3.45, that is at its RNAV per share.

Based on the above figures, UOADEV PE ratio is not cheap. Although it has high growth, at UOADEV share price of RM3.00, this has been factored in. Have to wait two more years then only the PE ratio drop to below 10x. UOADEV dividend yield is just average, although it will grow as the profit grow.

This has confirmed by RHB, where they give a UOADEV IPO stock target price which is only 15% from RM3.00.

I think there are few issues that you need to consider:

1) RM3.00 or RM2.97 is NOT fixed yet.
Although the above PEGGY Figures are not very cheap, but the Retail IPO price is not fixed yet. You may get a lower price and get refund of the difference if they fix the strike price lower. A lower price means UOADEV will have lower PE ratio and higher dividend yield and higher potential share price increase upon listing.

2) IPO year.
So far, Year 2011 is very good year for IPO. The recent few IPOs listing prices were crazily high. This may help UOADEV to trade higher.

3) Top 5 listed property developers stock
Post IPO, UOA Development market capitalization will be in the top 3 or top 5, behind UEM Land, SP Setia and about the same as Suncity-Sunway and IJMLand. Large UOADEV market capitalization will attract more institutional investor and can justify higher PE Ratio or higher price.

4) How RHB get the growth figures?
The growth figures are quite impressive, but how they get it? According to RHB, 2011 profit growth mainly due to the tail-end construction of The Horizon Phase 2, Kepong business Park and Villa Pines. 2012 to 2013 will be (I will post when I got time).

5) Property market Crash?
Many people said property market may crash soon. But I have been hearing that for so many months. I have no idea, up to individuals to judge.

Last day to apply for this IPO, so after all simple above mentioned criteria are you still up for it? Do you plan to hold it for long or go for a quickie? It is all down to your risk appetite.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 25 2011, 07:12 AM)
To list such a property stock at the peak of the property market itself is a big doubt.

Do not forget, Asia is facing a real asset bubble burst at any moment. Not too difficult for a prop stock to have reasonable earning at this moment.

It is like many unit trusts want to launch their new funds at the peak of bull market.

Just my view.
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yeah? U think so? Are you implying that the investment banker is stupid and u're so godly like?

Nobody knew where is the TOP and BOTTOM. If that is so, every1 are rich now.
Even Warren Buffet lost money during the 2007-2009 US crisis.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 25 2011, 09:38 AM)
yeah? U think so? Are you implying that the investment banker is stupid and u're so godly like?

Nobody knew where is the TOP and BOTTOM. If that is so, every1 are rich now.
Even Warren Buffet lost money during the 2007-2009 US crisis.
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i have partly agree to say those investment banker is stupid, they are bunch of greedy people
look at those wall street guys, they will take any action to make profit out of it

investment banker duty is just an agent to get company get listed and they get paid from it
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 25 2011, 10:36 AM)
i have partly agree to say those investment banker is stupid, they are bunch of greedy people
look at those wall street guys, they will take any action to make profit out of it

investment banker duty is just an agent to get company get listed and they get paid from it
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100% agree.

Look at Mc cleaner and many others ( MEGB, JCY etc ) , you would know. Even some FF got "trapped ".

I wonder is it common for stocks listed let say in Dow, fall about 50% below their IPOs price in bull market.

It is time for forumers to boycott the IPOs from some of these investment banks, rather than going all the ways to protect them.



Just my view.

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with EPF as cornerstone investor taking 5% stake..i dont think there are any dramatic 'risk'?
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 25 2011, 10:53 AM)
100% agree.

Look at Mc cleaner and many others ( MEGB, JCY  etc )  , you would know. Even some FF got "trapped ".

I wonder is it common for stocks listed let say in Dow, fall about 50% below their IPOs price in bull market.

It is time for forumers  to boycott the IPOs from some of these investment banks, rather than going all the ways to protect them.
Just my view.
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Ohhhh. Now I see what u're tryin to say. Well, can you tell me or us what IB to avoid?

In DOW dropped 50%?

I think you still thinking very negatively. Its all depends on SENTIMENT, price action on the day itself.
Recent mega IPO for example was LINKEDIN CORP - a unprofitable social networking company. IPO 45$, open $84, high $122, current $97. This is purely rubbish compare to UOA, really.

Analysis
Price/Earnings 100.0x
Price/Sales 13.2x
Price/Book 126.7x
Price/Cash Flow 211.7x
TEV/Sales 27.8x

In the end, YOU just put here I DON"T LIKE UOA, they are RUBBISH... Finish story liao... LOL, no need to pour petrol in a burning fire.. it might get to you.
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ May 25 2011, 08:48 AM)
UOA Development Bhd IPO Target Price Fair Value RM3.45
UOA Development Bhd IPO closing date (Retail Offering 25 May 2011) and (Institutional Offering 26 May 2011).
UOA IPO price RM 2.90.
The UOA Development Retail Price will be fixed at RM2.90 or 97.00% of the Institutional Price, whichever lower, subject to a refund of the difference between the Final Retail Price and RM2.90 per Share. 
The Institutional Price is by way of book-building. What is the target or expected institutional strike price or Retail Price? Very hard to say, example Maxis and JCY strike price was at the lower end but Pchem was at higher end.
Issuing house MIH-515 and listing date of UOA Development will be tentatively on 8 June 2011 in Bursa Main Market.
Whether can subscribe or apply UOA Development IPO, let us do a very simple PEGGY Method Evaluation.

PE: PE Ratio
G: Growth
G: Gearing
Y: Yield

Using UOA Development share price or Institutional IPO price of RM3.00.

UOA Development PE ratio is 26.2x (2010 Dec). Growing at 66.1% (2011), 41.3% (2012) and 29.6% (2013). PE ratio will then be 15.8x (2011), 11.2x (2012) and 8.6x (2013).

UOA Development net gearing is fairly high at 55.6%. Post IPO will drop to 4.8% (2011). The UOA Development dividend yield is 2.5% in 2011, and this is based on 40% dividend payout ratio. UOA Development dividend policy is dividend payout of 30% to 50%.

The above figure are by RHB and UOADEV target price fair value is RM3.45, that is at its RNAV per share.

Based on the above figures, UOADEV PE ratio is not cheap. Although it has high growth, at UOADEV share price of RM3.00, this has been factored in. Have to wait two more years then only the PE ratio drop to below 10x. UOADEV dividend yield is just average, although it will grow as the profit grow.

This has confirmed by RHB, where they give a UOADEV IPO stock target price which is only 15% from RM3.00.

I think there are few issues that you need to consider:

1) RM3.00 or RM2.97 is NOT fixed yet.
Although the above PEGGY Figures are not very cheap, but the Retail IPO price is not fixed yet. You may get a lower price and get refund of the difference if they fix the strike price lower. A lower price means UOADEV will have lower PE ratio and higher dividend yield and higher potential share price increase upon listing.

2) IPO year.
So far, Year 2011 is very good year for IPO. The recent few IPOs listing prices were crazily high. This may help UOADEV to trade higher.

3) Top 5 listed property developers stock
Post IPO, UOA Development market capitalization will be in the top 3 or top 5, behind UEM Land, SP Setia and about the same as Suncity-Sunway and IJMLand. Large UOADEV market capitalization will attract more institutional investor and can justify higher PE Ratio or higher price.

4) How RHB get the growth figures?
The growth figures are quite impressive, but how they get it? According to RHB, 2011 profit growth mainly due to the tail-end construction of The Horizon Phase 2, Kepong business Park and Villa Pines. 2012 to 2013 will be (I will post when I got time).


5) Property market Crash?
Many people said property market may crash soon. But I have been hearing that for so many months. I have no idea, up to individuals to judge.

Last day to apply for this IPO, so after all simple above mentioned criteria are you still up for it? Do you plan to hold it for long or go for a quickie? It is all down to your risk appetite.
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This is how a property stock can manipulate before going for IPO :-

1) use large bank borrowing to aggressively develop and capture good profit in year 2011/2012/13 to show very good growth,( actually giving tail end effects )

2) go for IPO at a very good price using 1) to show supportive good results

3) using IPO ( money from the public ) to pay back bank loans

4) Thereafter in Year 2014, company performance drops drastically. Small investors start to cry while big shots offload their shares long before the arrival of Year 2014.

IB should also play a part on how to maximise these strategies.

Just my view.

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This is how a property stock can manipulate before going for IPO :-

1) use large bank borrowing to aggressively develop and capture good profit in year 2011/2012/13  to show very good growth,( actually giving tail end effects )

2)  go for IPO at a very good price  using 1) to show supportive good results

3) using IPO ( money from the public ) to pay back bank loans

4) Thereafter in Year 2014, company performance drops drastically. Small investors start to cry while big shots offload their shares long before the arrival of Year 2014.

IB should also play a part on how to maximise these strategies.

Just my view.
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If that is the fomula for a good IPO so be it...
It all the same ... we buys if we think that there will be a buyer that want to pay extra...
Most ppl don't say that " I will only sell above 5.00. because the value is 5.00 "
Most ppl like me I will sell at any value above 2.90 because I pay 2.90 and i don't know the real value.
That is just my view.

That why I applied for 50 lots
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 25 2011, 04:26 PM)
This is how a property stock can manipulate before going for IPO :-

1) use large bank borrowing to aggressively develop and capture good profit in year 2011/2012/13  to show very good growth,( actually giving tail end effects )

2)  go for IPO at a very good price  using 1) to show supportive good results

3) using IPO ( money from the public ) to pay back bank loans

4) Thereafter in Year 2014, company performance drops drastically. Small investors start to cry while big shots offload their shares long before the arrival of Year 2014.

IB should also play a part on how to maximise these strategies.

Just my view.
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I agree with you on this. Base on the PE alone, UOA on it's IPO price is not cheap. It is all purely base on forecasted growth for the years to come. True enough, if the property bubble in Klang Valley were to go burst, it will definitely affect the growth of UOA and eventually the stock price. UOA current flagship project is Bangsar South City. Well, I applied some small lots and planning for a quickie (sell on first day if get some and take profit). I'm more a prudent in the risk appetite because I find property stocks are usually at higher risk. Dividend yield not so attractive as well compared to other sector. I will only buy it for long term if the PE is really low, like Tambun. That's my view.

But UOA and Tambun is different that, UOA has a better and more reputable name, hence can attract big players and foreign manager to invest in the stock. Support will be there, but the question is can the investors tolerate the risk of the property value that might burst. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ May 25 2011, 03:03 PM)
Ohhhh. Now I see what u're tryin to say. Well, can you tell me or us what IB to avoid?

In DOW dropped 50%?

I think you still thinking very negatively. Its all depends on SENTIMENT, price action on the day itself.
Recent mega IPO for example was LINKEDIN CORP - a unprofitable social networking company. IPO 45$, open $84, high $122, current $97. This is purely rubbish compare to UOA, really.

Analysis
Price/Earnings  100.0x 
Price/Sales  13.2x 
Price/Book  126.7x 
Price/Cash Flow  211.7x 
TEV/Sales          27.8x 

In the end, YOU just put here I DON"T LIKE UOA, they are RUBBISH... Finish story liao... LOL, no need to pour petrol in a burning fire.. it might get to you.
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well, i must say every one got their own thinking, some could be aggresive and conservative, for sky's bro view, he is those in the middle

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Ok, I've applied for this IPO via ATM.

The reasons why I like UOA Development:
1. Strong brand name. UOA is known among investors as a builder of premium properties that delivers ahead of shedule. Some ppl may recommend certain other developer stock because ....... oh, oh! Low PE!.......but note that there are some developers with quality control issues, have a reputation for delivering late, have land in so so locations, or are smallish, and hence trading at a discount. Quality does not come cheap, people.

2. Major player. UOA Dev will be the 4th largest property stock in Bursa after listing.

3. Institutional support. EPF as cornerstone investor. Enuff said.

4. Landbank in prime locations.

5. FY11 earnings surge. Selling property is not like selling 3-in-1 coffee. Earnings zig zag cause of the timing of launches and completion. Earnings for FY11 are estimated to be at least double that of previous year.

As for property prices dropping/market crashing ..... LOL: People have been 'warning' about that for years.

There's a 'will property prices drop?' thread started 3 years ago. Prices have gone up a lot since then wink.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/741185
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1763572

And in the unlikely event of a property market crash, it'll affect those low PE property counters as well. In fact, it'll affect the whole stock market whistling.gif

Sekian.

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People come and rant here that there are property bubble. I see no bubble here.

In HK, the purportedly property bubble is being said since 2008 during the American crash, but now properties price there are up by nearing 50% in major area.

Back to KL, price per sq feet in KLCC was 800-900 and now 1200-1400psf. Go figure.


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Godspeed to all of us.

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Already applied 17 lots.

Godspeed to all of us.

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Already applied 17 lots.

Godspeed to all of us.

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Huat bro! Hopefully manage to get some and the listing date see it trading at premium! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Huat bro! Hopefully manage to get some and the listing date see it trading at premium! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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My personal view... i think the result of book building would be lower institutional price. Hence there will be refund for those retail investor. IMHO there should be premium attach to this IPO. So x worry.




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QUOTE(nasT @ May 26 2011, 12:36 AM)
Already applied 17 lots.

Godspeed to all of us.

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17 lots = 1700 or 17000?

17,000 = 49.3K... notworthy.gif

Good luck to us. I'm applying UOA as well.
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Wanna ask - if I apply using Maybank ATM, how to check if my application is successful?

I know money will be refunded into bank account if not successful. But if money is not refunded, does not automatically mean successful as a number of applications will be held in reserve and will only be returned with 10 market days.


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Wanna ask - if I apply using Maybank ATM, how to check if my application is successful?

I know money will be refunded into bank account if not successful. But if money is not refunded, does not automatically mean successful as a number of applications will be held in reserve and will only be returned with 10 market days.
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If you have internet banking, you can see that under the eShare status.
Also refund maybe a few hours later than the official result from the page, so make very little difference.
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QUOTE(htt @ May 26 2011, 09:25 PM)
If you have internet banking, you can see that under the eShare status.
Also refund maybe a few hours later than the official result from the page, so make very little difference.
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Hi bro, I wanna ask that I applied manually and courier the form on Tuesday and if MIH received my application form on Wednesday, I wonder if my application wil be accepted?
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17 lots = 1700 or 17000?

17,000 = 49.3K... notworthy.gif

Good luck to us. I'm applying UOA as well.
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in my case... will only know next monday when the magnetic tape is returned to the bank

bro zamans, the latter.

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If you have internet banking, you can see that under the eShare status.
Also refund maybe a few hours later than the official result from the page, so make very little difference.
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Okays, I found it under eshare. Thanks!
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Hi bro, I wanna ask that I applied manually and courier the form on Tuesday and if MIH received my application form on Wednesday, I wonder if my application wil be accepted?
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You can still check with their website with your IC Number I think, but that one most likely going to be slower than all the banks tongue.gif
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I don't want to comment about this or any other IPO coz i'm practically naive about stock market.

Just want to give my 2-cent opinion on property. Property burst? Friends, ive been hearding people talked about that since 15 years ago ("don't want to buy that house lah..so expensive, nanti property burst, price sure come down one" and after 2 or 3 years, "aiiyyaaa, should have bought that house lah, price sudah almost double oo...")

Most of the reputable developers have developments within the Klang Valley and tell me which of their developments (especially the landed ones) in Klang Valley-proper experience drop in price (compared to the original developer's price) - just name one, enough.
We need land to develop properties and land is a finite resource and that resource is shrinking fast day by day. Housing is one of the 3 basic human need/demand and add in the speculative demand factor (esp. in Klang Valley).
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QUOTE(code_red @ May 27 2011, 09:34 AM)
I don't want to comment about this or any other IPO coz i'm practically naive about stock market. 

Just want to give my 2-cent opinion on property.  Property burst? Friends, ive been hearding people talked about that since 15 years ago ("don't want to buy that house lah..so expensive, nanti property burst, price sure come down one"  and after 2 or 3 years, "aiiyyaaa, should have bought that house lah, price sudah almost double oo...")

Most of the reputable developers have developments within the Klang Valley and tell me which of their developments (especially the landed ones) in Klang Valley-proper experience drop in price (compared to the original developer's price) - just name one, enough.
We need land to develop properties and land is a finite resource and that resource is shrinking fast day by day.  Housing is one of the 3 basic human need/demand and add in the speculative demand factor (esp. in Klang Valley).
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From the link above...

IPO price revised to 2.60 ?

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From the link above...

IPO price revised to 2.60 ?

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Not too sure. Need to wait proper announcement.
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Could be a typo error, anyway, need to wait for Official Bursa or the investment house info.

If they revised the price, you will get the refund. No worries.
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http://www.ifrasia.com/equities-uoa-develo.../637228.article

Seems to be real for RM2.52 retail / individual price due to institutional book building price.

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My personal view... i think the result of book building would be lower institutional price. Hence there will be refund for those retail investor. IMHO there should be premium attach to this IPO. So x worry.
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From the link above...

IPO price revised to 2.60 ?

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Luckily got Institution buyers to reject IB overpriced at rm 2.90, otherwise small fish got to buta buta pay for rm 2.90.


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Yes! got refund, if manage to get the UOA shares. My bracket is in a competitive bracket. Good luck guys! At Rm 2.52, there is quite some room for it to go higher premium. Cheers~
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Yes! got refund, if manage to get the UOA shares. My bracket is in a competitive bracket. Good luck guys! At Rm 2.52, there is quite some room for it to go higher premium. Cheers~
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I don't want to comment about this or any other IPO coz i'm practically naive about stock market. 

Just want to give my 2-cent opinion on property.  Property burst? Friends, ive been hearding people talked about that since 15 years ago ("don't want to buy that house lah..so expensive, nanti property burst, price sure come down one"  and after 2 or 3 years, "aiiyyaaa, should have bought that house lah, price sudah almost double oo...")

Most of the reputable developers have developments within the Klang Valley and tell me which of their developments (especially the landed ones) in Klang Valley-proper experience drop in price (compared to the original developer's price) - just name one, enough.
We need land to develop properties and land is a finite resource and that resource is shrinking fast day by day.  Housing is one of the 3 basic human need/demand and add in the speculative demand factor (esp. in Klang Valley).
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QUOTE(code_red @ May 27 2011, 09:34 AM)
I don't want to comment about this or any other IPO coz i'm practically naive about stock market. 

Just want to give my 2-cent opinion on property.  Property burst? Friends, ive been hearding people talked about that since 15 years ago ("don't want to buy that house lah..so expensive, nanti property burst, price sure come down one"   and after 2 or 3 years, "aiiyyaaa, should have bought that house lah, price sudah almost double oo...")

Most of the reputable developers have developments within the Klang Valley and tell me which of their developments (especially the landed ones) in Klang Valley-proper experience drop in price (compared to the original developer's price) - just name one, enough.
We need land to develop properties and land is a finite resource and that resource is shrinking fast day by day.  Housing is one of the 3 basic human need/demand and add in the speculative demand factor (esp. in Klang Valley).
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IOI property - over built some commercial properties in Puchong a few years back.

They have to slash some healthy % from their original developer prices to sell.

One big commercial centre is still quite empty today ( unsold lots ) after 2 to 3 years.

BTW, it is too expensive and not viable for these co to use their high priced lands just to build some landed properties to sell to u in the first place , even though the demand is great in this area.

Have u heard of abandoned commercial projects in the middle of KL . Maybe can google some.

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actually not to be racist here....

dun u guys notice sth ah....

everytime...the public subscription rate is always higher than the bumi.....

and other cases ie purchase of new house...normally public portion all sapu and left only bumi lot....

but i believe.....bumi is the major race here right??....

shouldnt it be sapu at the same rate also or most bumi not interested to invest?


hey no offence...

just out of curiousity...

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QUOTE(noswear @ May 28 2011, 07:32 PM)
actually not to be racist here....

dun u guys notice sth ah....

everytime...the public subscription rate is always higher than the bumi.....

and other cases ie purchase of new house...normally public portion all sapu and left only bumi lot....

but i believe.....bumi is the major race here right??....

shouldnt it be sapu at the same rate also or most bumi not interested to invest?
hey no offence...

just out of curiousity...
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No offence, but the reality are as follows : [not all]

>not all BUMI is rich
>majority are living near poverty line.
>busy spending money on things that are not necessary like upgrade TV (though spend less than 3 hours daily watching it)
>spending money on cars, bike, bicycle (fixie - take a look at Ampang Park last nite.. wow, i'm spechless)
>gaji masuk all finish paying loan (refer to above)
>buy big house/cars without able to pay it in long term, when you produce more kids.
>poor cash flow and cash planning
>waiting for support from ____________ (fill in the blank)

U all can tambah sendiri.
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QUOTE(noswear @ May 28 2011, 07:32 PM)
actually not to be racist here....

dun u guys notice sth ah....

everytime...the public subscription rate is always higher than the bumi.....

and other cases ie purchase of new house...normally public portion all sapu and left only bumi lot....

but i believe.....bumi is the major race here right??....

shouldnt it be sapu at the same rate also or most bumi not interested to invest?
hey no offence...

just out of curiousity...
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I understand that the allotment was decided by th Board of Directors on the adviced of the management . In most cases most or the Members of the Board and the management are non Bumi.
I think, if you are not too happy you should write to them and ask why allocated that way or attend the AGM and ask.
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I understand that the allotment was decided by th Board of Directors on the adviced of the management . In most cases most or the Members of the Board and the management are non Bumi.
I think, if you are not too happy you should write to them and ask why allocated that way or attend the AGM and ask.
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It is arranged by the underwriter but not by the Board of Directors. The underwriter has to at least comply with the regulation of IPO. So why that amount of shares allocated for Bumi and Non-Bumi were advised by the underwriter.

Anyway, the person was just mentioning that he/she is curious on why always that Non-Bumi is applying a lot more shares as compared with Bumi. It is not related to Board of Directors at all.
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Aside from money and investment awareness, here's my take.

bumi : apply with spare money or loan money. close one eye and hope to make a buck or two.

non-bumi : 1 person, apply 3-5 times using sister, mother, grandmother, uncle auntie name.


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QUOTE(tineagle @ May 29 2011, 05:39 AM)
Aside from money and investment awareness, here's my take.

bumi : apply with spare money or loan money. close one eye and hope to make a buck or two.

non-bumi : 1 person, apply 3-5 times using sister, mother, grandmother, uncle auntie name.
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Ya, true oso. My fren used his wife, bro and sis in law, his Aunt and Uncle for IdealJacobs. He got like 2,000 shares and made 1K++
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Ya, true oso. My fren used his wife, bro and sis in law, his Aunt and Uncle for IdealJacobs. He got like 2,000 shares and made 1K++
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When I first seeing people talk about the bumi/ non-bumi allocation, I was expecting for some  mad.gif face... But seems like we are progressing to 1M well... cool2.gif
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Let's hope the pleasantness is maintained after we find out whether we get the shares or not tomorrow. Looking at the stats, there's bound to be a lot of disappointment.

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Ya, true oso. My fren used his wife, bro and sis in law, his Aunt and Uncle for IdealJacobs. He got like 2,000 shares and made 1K++
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Indeed good idea. So next week I must ask my gf to open an acc. So I can apply few times lol
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When can we check the status ya? Is it tomorrow? And, if tomorrow, does it mean it is at 1200 a.m. tonight? hehe! smile.gif
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When can we check the status ya? Is it tomorrow? And, if tomorrow, does it mean it is at 1200 a.m. tonight? hehe! smile.gif
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Tomorrow evening. I found out the results at about 8pm in my last IPO application.
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Tomorrow evening. I found out the results at about 8pm in my last IPO application.
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CIMB e-IPO?
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CIMB e-IPO?
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QUOTE(noswear @ May 29 2011, 10:44 PM)
Indeed good idea. So next week I must ask my gf to open an acc. So I can apply few times lol
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Can, why not right? But make sure that you got the password to the trading platform... brows.gif
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Just checked status. Share not alloted. Rugi RM2! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 30 2011, 09:54 AM)
Just checked status. Share not alloted. Rugi RM2! tongue.gif
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where did you check?
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i-Trade IPO online.
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How so? I'm using CIMBclicks. Same ka?
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My CIMB e-IPO status: Share Not Alloted
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Maybank, still pending
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Maybank, still pending
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QUOTE(2010May @ May 30 2011, 12:10 PM)
Share Alloted 6,000
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Applied via eipocimb.

Bank -> CIMB (but should be due to eipocimb faster get result this time.)
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Applied via eipocimb.

Bank -> CIMB (but should be due to eipocimb faster get result this time.)
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We are in the same group....but...aiiiiiiiii cry.gif
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How so? I'm using CIMBclicks. Same ka?
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ops, priced lower than the expected 2.90 .... rolleyes.gif
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Pending .. now I shit brix and cannot eat my quaker oat. Fast fast ...  mad.gif
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Argh, almost 6pm and my amount in Maybank still pending!
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How you apply ? If through CIMB eIPO, shd know by now.
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CIMB account.. I wonder why CIMB eIPO > CIMB Bank hmm.gif
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My maybank states I'm unsuccessful for it. Good luck guys!
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After so many unsucessful attempt at last I manage to get 40K.
Now I have to pray and hope for a good opening. brows.gif
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 30 2011, 07:33 PM)
After so many unsucessful attempt at last I manage to get 40K.
Now I have to pray and hope for a good opening.  brows.gif
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Congratz Mr Rosdi thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 30 2011, 07:33 PM)
After so many unsucessful attempt at last I manage to get 40K.
Now I have to pray and hope for a good opening.  brows.gif
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Congrats...
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After so many unsucessful attempt at last I manage to get 40K.
Now I have to pray and hope for a good opening.  brows.gif
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Wow! Congrats rosdi!
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 30 2011, 07:33 PM)
After so many unsucessful attempt at last I manage to get 40K.
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40k ? drool.gif Rich guy! tongue.gif
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Yay! Managed to get.
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Yay! Managed to get.
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Congrats man! I feel that I'm so unlucky even though there are so many shares and my applicant brackets at 48%~ Anyway, hopefully you guys make some good bucks of it from the first day trading! My target price for it is RM 2.95
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Congrats man! I feel that I'm so unlucky even though there are so many shares and my applicant brackets at 48%~ Anyway, hopefully you guys make some good bucks of it from the first day trading! My target price for it is RM 2.95
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Thanks! Didn't realise u are bumi. Actually I was surprised and had a sinking feeling after seeing the number of applicants in my bracket ..... glad managed to strike this time.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 30 2011, 07:58 PM)
40k ? drool.gif Rich guy! tongue.gif
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Don't say rich la as I am not...
May be I bought a bit more because I like to take a bit higher risk...
The next time, when you want to purchase the IPO you should ask ... Can I still afford to apply for another lot.
If you already can't you should ask again how can I get the extra money to apply.
Knowing that applying for a bigger block will give you an extra probability.
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Anyone apply using CIMB clicks ord knw their status?
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QUOTE(ahcheap @ May 30 2011, 08:21 PM)
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Nope. Still waiting. shakehead.gif
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Thanks! Didn't realise u are bumi. Actually I was surprised and had a sinking feeling after seeing the number of applicants in my bracket ..... glad managed to strike this time.
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I'm not a bumi! I actually applied that using one of my relatives CDS account. Yet still can't get!
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QUOTE(kailc @ May 30 2011, 08:56 PM)
cimbclicks still pending...
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Cimbclicks used to be this slow ? Maybe need to wait until tmr.
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Cimbclcks is slow......still pending,next time have to use eipocimb,faster...
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mine still no result yet....using hsbc.

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i got 4 lot. blush.gif err... what is the final price actually? RM2.90?
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QUOTE(Seezo @ May 30 2011, 09:14 PM)
i got 4 lot. blush.gif err... what is the final price actually? RM2.90?
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2.52
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i got 4 lot. blush.gif err... what is the final price actually? RM2.90?
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Should be 40lots bro. tongue.gif
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owh. RM2.52. biggrin.gif

so RM0.38 will be refund in 10 days from the ballout date, aight? if that so... cannot apply XOX.. huhu~ don't have bullet left.. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 30 2011, 09:36 PM)
Should be 40lots bro. tongue.gif
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i'm not rich like rosdi1. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 30 2011, 07:33 PM)
After so many unsucessful attempt at last I manage to get 40K.
Now I have to pray and hope for a good opening.  brows.gif
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bro how much u apply to get 40k? I assume you apply RM 200k?
I got half of u
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 30 2011, 07:33 PM)
After so many unsucessful attempt at last I manage to get 40K.
Now I have to pray and hope for a good opening.  brows.gif
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that's pretty much u kena..
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what did cimb guys doing? No update till now ... I tried to sleep but can't vmad.gif
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what did cimb guys doing? No update till now ... I tried to sleep but can't vmad.gif
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cimb guys go to lalaland already..
just go to sleep la bro. :-) check again this morning.. :-) i mean 9:00 am. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Irzani @ May 31 2011, 01:11 AM)
what did cimb guys doing? No update till now ... I tried to sleep but can't vmad.gif
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CIMBClicks updated oledi, just wish the fund will reverse today so can apply XOX !!!
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QUOTE(kailc @ May 31 2011, 08:38 AM)
CIMBClicks updated oledi, just wish the fund will reverse today so can apply XOX !!!
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XOX ? I think i will not apply this lah. Waiting for next one.
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I got 10 biji.

Hopefully strong performance on the first day.
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Thanks to the government.

Failed again to get anything.
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Wah zamans98 also failed to get ? I thought you also applied through private placement ?
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Wah zamans98 also failed to get ? I thought you also applied through private placement ?
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No la, CIMBclicks... can't get 33% in on time. Private Placement closed early.
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No la, CIMBclicks... can't get 33% in on time. Private Placement closed early.
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I see. Nevermine lah, wait for the next IPO boat. Any interest in XOX ? I may pass this counter. biggrin.gif
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I see. Nevermine lah, wait for the next IPO boat. Any interest in XOX ? I may pass this counter. biggrin.gif
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not too bad u know. XOX just may break 1.00 on listing day.
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not too bad u know. XOX just may break 1.00 on listing day.
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XOX is too risky from my point of view.
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XOX is too risky from my point of view.
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The risk is there. But if you manage to sell in the fist 15mins during listing day, should be okay. else you will need to keep for long long term. tongue.gif
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stupid...

din get again.....

next time must up the number shares apply ...so tat can enjoy higher chance of success....
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QUOTE(noswear @ May 31 2011, 12:33 PM)
stupid...

din get again.....

next time must up the number shares apply ...so tat can enjoy higher chance of success....
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If apply 1M shares, sure get. tongue.gif
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Dunno how is mine, no refund yet, there is no other way I can check since I applied manually.
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I got 100% refund 1hr ago. Thinking of XOX or SOS! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 31 2011, 01:30 PM)
I got 100% refund 1hr ago. Thinking of XOX or SOS! tongue.gif
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did u read their past financial statement?

u will shake head after reading it
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did u read their past financial statement?

u will shake head after reading it
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I know. Not only shake head, want to vomit also. But listing day first 15mins may be diff. After that, may lao sai all the way. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 31 2011, 11:45 AM)
The risk is there. But if you manage to sell in the fist 15mins during listing day, should be okay. else you will need to keep for long long term. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mletee @ May 31 2011, 05:18 PM)
wah..wan like tat meh..hahaha
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when the listing day for this IPO?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 31 2011, 05:15 PM)
I know. Not only shake head, want to vomit also. But listing day first 15mins may be diff. After that, may lao sai all the way. biggrin.gif
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u may lao sai if the big boss start to throw away once market open
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 31 2011, 11:04 PM)
u may lao sai if the big boss start to throw away once market open
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The big boss still busy swinging the gong... brows.gif
My way quite simple... if there are profit I will just take it. If no profit I keep my loss between 3 to 5%.
I think on the open can get a bit la.... rclxms.gif
I like IPO more for the joy of geting it and frustration for not

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 31 2011, 11:23 PM)
The big boss still busy swinging the gong...  brows.gif
My way quite simple... if there are profit I will just take it. If no profit I keep my loss between 3 to 5%.
I think on the open can get a bit la.... rclxms.gif
I like IPO more for the joy of geting it and frustration for not
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Well said rosdi1. rclxms.gif
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anyone got the balance already? hmm.gif 0.38 cent for 1 unit should be return aight? before the listing day?
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Use Alliance bank, still dunno yet... fingers crossed.
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QUOTE(ultratara @ Jun 2 2011, 12:37 AM)
Use Alliance bank, still dunno yet... fingers crossed.
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I don't understand why Alliance bank took so long to update. Did you call and check ?
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I just received envelope A from MIH yesterday so I think my application failed, but unitl now stil no refund from CIMB yet.
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err.. what is the TP for UOA.. smile.gif anyone knows?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 2 2011, 09:00 AM)
I don't understand why Alliance bank took so long to update. Did you call and check ?
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Nope, have not... will check tomorrow...
Maybe bank return the money later to us, they "untung" a few days interest?
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QUOTE(ultratara @ Jun 3 2011, 12:28 AM)
Nope, have not... will check tomorrow...
Maybe bank return the money later to us, they "untung" a few days interest?
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I applied via Maybank ATM.

6pm= Found out result not successful.

10pm= Got my money returned to my account already.
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 3 2011, 01:52 AM)
I applied via Maybank ATM.

6pm= Found out result not successful.

10pm= Got my money returned to my account already.
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this share listing tomorrow.. correct me if im wrong?
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Jun 7 2011, 11:51 AM)
this share listing tomorrow.. correct me if im wrong?
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YES. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Jun 7 2011, 11:51 AM)
this share listing tomorrow.. correct me if im wrong?
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Good luck forumers! Hope you guys make some bucks from it rclxms.gif
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Huat huat for those who got the IPO. Pls share your profit tomorrow. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 7 2011, 01:24 PM)
Huat huat for those who got the IPO. Pls share your profit tomorrow. biggrin.gif
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anybody receive the refund of RM380 per lot from the UOA share?
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anybody receive the refund of RM380 per lot from the UOA share?
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The company buyback the shares? oh you should receive it back within ten market days if entitled..

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In respect of the initial listing of UOA DEVELOPMENT BERHAD on Bursa Malaysia Securities on 8 June 2011, Bursa Malaysia Securities announces that the reference price of UOA DEVELOPMENT BERHAD is set to RM 2.60.

The reference price for the new listing and its upper/lower limits are as follows:

No. Stock Code Stock Name Reference Lower Upper

1. 5200 UOADEV 2.60 1.820 13.0



rclxms.gif approx - RM80 profit oredi per 1000.

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WHat will be opening price ? Anyone ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jun 7 2011, 08:10 PM)
In respect of the initial listing of UOA DEVELOPMENT BERHAD on Bursa Malaysia Securities on 8 June 2011, Bursa Malaysia Securities announces that the reference price of UOA DEVELOPMENT BERHAD is set to RM 2.60.

The reference price for the new listing and its upper/lower limits are as follows:

No. Stock Code Stock Name Reference Lower Upper

1. 5200 UOADEV 2.60 1.820 13.0
rclxms.gif  approx - RM80 profit oredi per 1000.
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thats really not profit.
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http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business/18...-for-rm50m.html

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business/18...ofit-in-1q.html

I think UOA will fly high tmrw!! Huat huat ar! flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 7 2011, 08:22 PM)
WHat will be opening price ? Anyone ? biggrin.gif
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At 2.80 I am already very happy to sell all my shares. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 7 2011, 09:49 PM)
At 2.80 I am already very  happy to sell all my shares.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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if Rosdi1 sell at the price 2.800, he got RM10,424.76 rclxms.gif congrats. biggrin.gif
psstt... can belanje me McD. tongue.gif

err..
by the way, the price 2.52 or 2.60 ? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Seezo @ Jun 7 2011, 10:17 PM)
if Rosdi1 sell at the price 2.800,  he got RM10,424.76  rclxms.gif congrats.  biggrin.gif
psstt... can belanje me McD. tongue.gif

err..
by the way, the price 2.52 or 2.60 ?  rclxub.gif
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Listing of UOA Development Bhd at Bursa Malaysia at 8.30am. Final retail price was RM2.52. OSK Research had a fair value of RM3.57. It posted net profit of RM130 million in the first quarter ended March 31.
If this is true boleh belanja 2 pieces of KFC.
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owh.. ty. :-) RM2.52.. need to calculate the break even price and also target price to sell.. :-)

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QUOTE(tineagle @ Jun 7 2011, 08:33 PM)
thats really not profit.
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Not to brag... but i have 10,000 shares to sell.

I just have to earn more than RM 169 to match my theoretical monthly return.

Go figure.
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I target 3.10 to sell
profit 0.50 per unit
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8:45am RM2.680

doh.gif

8:50am RM2.600

doh.gif

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just now 2.90 also got
take it slow
now 2.60


Added on June 8, 2011, 8:51 amcheck the buy and sell qty
Demand more than supply

demand 40k, supply 30k
hopefully will shoot up

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First time got IPO. But price liddat sad.gif
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I think 2.60 only la


Added on June 8, 2011, 8:59 am
QUOTE(juztborn @ Jun 8 2011, 08:57 AM)
First time got IPO. But price liddat sad.gif
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Come on be grateful

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RM2.570..
doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif


RM2.560...

moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif bye.gif

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wa..rm2.55
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relax
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QUOTE(period8 @ Jun 8 2011, 09:17 AM)
why so scared
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cool2.gif true.. havent even started yet!! TP 3.45 wat
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jun 8 2011, 09:24 AM)
cool2.gif true.. havent even started yet!! TP 3.45 wat
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lol target price but not confirm price mah...

plenty of research house give TP...but u tell me...how many of them actually reach the TP?

anyway all da best.....cheers...!!!

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QUOTE(noswear @ Jun 8 2011, 09:35 AM)
lol target price but not confirm price mah...

plenty of research house give TP...but u tell me...how many of them actually reach the TP?

anyway all da best.....cheers...!!!
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reduce the TP by 80%.. still some upswing.. yeah market is unpredictable
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2.58 ok. still gaining peanuts rite? But I expected this IPO to perform way better, maybe later..
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Who got burned by UOA?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 09:41 AM)
Who got burned by UOA?
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Not yet burned rite, still very near it's IPO price unless those sell at 2.54.
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 8 2011, 09:44 AM)
Not yet burned rite, still very near it's IPO price unless those sell at 2.54.
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depending on the entry price. assume at 2.61 x 25,000. Poor opening. Reminds me again of CHINA based IPO.
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Like CMMT, just keep a while
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 09:47 AM)
depending on the entry price. assume at 2.61 x 25,000. Poor opening. Reminds me again of CHINA based IPO.
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Yes, very poor opening indeed, I expect it to rally better, but I was wrong..
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 09:47 AM)
depending on the entry price. assume at 2.61 x 25,000. Poor opening. Reminds me again of CHINA based IPO.
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Thats why i never believe in all rhose so-called expert's tp, rating etc...all bull shit.
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QUOTE(cckiong @ Jun 8 2011, 09:50 AM)
Thats why i never believe in all rhose so-called expert's tp, rating etc...all bull shit.
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Maybe be patience a little? Hopefully they will follow the footstep of PCHEM.
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entered at 2.54 and sold off at 2.6
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Very dissapointed performance. It is worst that MClean and IJacobs first day performance.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 8 2011, 09:58 AM)
Very dissapointed performance. It is worst that MClean and IJacobs first day performance.
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Oh ya, at least the stock that you mentioned above hit way higher in term of % before they slump. Good point is that at least UOADEV is still trading at it's peanut premium..
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Opened at bad time? June is bad day?

No wonder Bumi Armada choose July
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 8 2011, 10:00 AM)
Opened at bad time? June is bad day?

No wonder Bumi Armada choose July
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See who is the boss. biggrin.gif
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See what d expert will say to justify their mistake on uoa this time
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2.55 now. Close to its ipo price
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IPO holders will be scared... hiding in closet now
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:14 AM)
IPO holders will be scared... hiding in closet now
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A chance to jump in for those that didnt get it at IPO price?
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:14 AM)
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I thought u were saying >> true.. havent even started yet!! TP 3.45 wat

Now u said u sell at 2.60
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 8 2011, 10:18 AM)
A chance to jump in for those that didnt get it at IPO price?
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So bad performance. Still want to buy meh ?
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it will be like PETCHEM..you have to hold for a long time but I think it's worth smile.gif

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This company definitely worth to be kept for long term. With the upcoming projects and future launches will definitely boost it price further so it's a matter of the holding power that you have in this counter.
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I sell mine at 2.56. Better reserve bullet for bumi amada in july
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QUOTE(greddym3 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:35 AM)
it will be like PETCHEM..you have to hold for a long time but I think it's worth smile.gif
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Worth it or not I planned to go out today :
I see support at 2.55 and big resistance at 2.60.
My stop will be 2.53
Lets see which will break first. vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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Means in short period, this will hit 2.40's.
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QUOTE(period8 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:18 AM)
I thought u were saying >>  true.. havent even started yet!! TP 3.45 wat

Now u said u sell at 2.60
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its 3rd rally already..
btw, i am just on intra day playing and not IPO holder!!
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its 3rd rally already..
btw, i am just on intra day playing and not IPO holder!!
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2.55 now, will you still in for intraday?
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2.55 now, will you still in for intraday?
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2nd session perhaps.. no direction at the moment since its resting
dont wanna caught up with this by end of day..
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2.54/2.55, by looking at the market sentiment, we can reach 2.50/2.51 before being pushed up back to 2.60 but that a risk you have to take.

I'm just watching at sideline.

Rosdi, dah jual ke?
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She oledy sold at 2.60
I will be holding on it
Confident with UOA coz see the UOA building in bangsar more confident
somemore got big MLM company in it
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QUOTE(period8 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:55 AM)
She oledy sold at 2.60
I will be holding on it
Confident with UOA coz see the UOA building in bangsar more confident
somemore got big MLM company in it
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UOA building in bangsar is under UOAREIT tongue.gif
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QUOTE(period8 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:55 AM)
She oledy sold at 2.60
I will be holding on it
Confident with UOA coz see the UOA building in bangsar more confident
somemore got big MLM company in it
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oh well.. u r investor in this case..
am just a speculator at this stage on this.. totally different playing style so its no right or wrong
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Sorry.. I did not follow this IPO.
I thought the IPO price is RM2.90?

So now is trading below IPO price on the opening price itself?
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worst case is RM2.52.nobody wants to make losses.institutional investors bought at RM2.60.they will not let this stock tank
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Volumed slow down, like no movement already. Shark still sleeping..
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UOA building in bangsar is under UOAREIT >> Oh i know that, just giving the thread an impression abt UOA development and new project will be very classy

hence my confident is there, i did the same with pchem
still got 1 more lot profit @ 2k now, still holding
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 8 2011, 10:58 AM)
Sorry.. I did not follow this IPO.
I thought the IPO price is RM2.90?

So now is trading below IPO price on the opening price itself?
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They revised the price to RM 2.60 for institutional and RM 2.52 for the public.
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Waw.2.54 now
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QUOTE(cckiong @ Jun 8 2011, 11:06 AM)
Waw.2.54 now
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2.50 should be near the mark..
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2.53/2.54 and heading to 2.50/2.51 very soon, by closing of 1st period.
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:39 AM)
Worth it or not I planned to go out today :
I see support at 2.55 and big resistance at 2.60.
My stop will be 2.53
Lets see which will break first. vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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already pierced 2.53.

I think it may go down lower below 2.50...ripple effect from IPO investor.

fyi I have sold all at 2.60.




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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:13 AM)
2.53/2.54 and heading to 2.50/2.51 very soon, by closing of 1st period.
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Zaman, you buy this morning ?
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QUOTE(period8 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:00 AM)
is trading @ 2.52

UOA building in bangsar is under UOAREIT >> Oh i know that, just giving the thread an impression abt UOA development and new project will be very classy

hence my confident is there, i did the same with pchem
still got 1 more lot profit @ 2k now, still holding
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ehh i thought you want to wait until 3.10?
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 8 2011, 11:01 AM)
They revised the price to RM 2.60 for institutional and RM 2.52 for the public.
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No wonder..
Must be some shit behind that they are not exposing, therefore revising price
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yaya I'm holding on it,
the 2.52 i type too fast, is for a bro here
he wanna know what is the IPO price we purchase

Hopefully it will become like pchem
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:16 AM)
Zaman, you buy this morning ?
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No, as its against my own policy (with exception to super good counters).

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:27 AM)
No, as its against my own policy (with exception to super good counters).
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But laws are meant to be broken..
Just break your own policy smile.gif
Hahaha
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I sold all on average price of RM2.60, for peanut profits.

Think the counter can keep for long term ........ however, I don't want to be tied down and miss other opportunities.

Oh, well ...... profit is profit. However, this disappointment is going to cause a drastic change to my investment strategy. Live and learn nod.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 8 2011, 11:22 AM)
No wonder..
Must be some shit behind that they are not exposing, therefore revising price
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David_Brent did mentioned something about the family and that's why he didn't enter. Maybe he was right. I don't know, we shall see how UOADEV close on it's first day.
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INSTITUTIONAL OFFERING OF UP TO 50.00 MILLION OFFER SHARES TO MALAYSIAN AND FOREIGN INSTITUTIONAL AND SELECTED INVESTORS AT THE INSTITUTIONAL PRICE TO BE DETERMINED BY WAY OF BOOKBUILDING (“INSTITUTIONAL PRICE”) PAYABLE IN FULL UPON ALLOCATION;

total shares traded is almost 50 million now..the price will stabilize
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First day already like this, speaks a lot on itself.
News can be hidden, but share price cannot be hidden.
The movement of share price is the most effective way to express the interest of the public, and shareholder.

This kind of share price in the opening.. Tells a lot out there.
Maybe I am wrong, I dunno.. I am just giving neutral view.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 8 2011, 11:34 AM)
First day already like this, speaks a lot on itself.
News can be hidden, but share price cannot be hidden.
The movement of share price is the most effective way to express the interest of the public, and shareholder.

This kind of share price in the opening.. Tells a lot out there.
Maybe I am wrong, I dunno.. I am just giving neutral view.
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Yes, I agree to certain extent. But I hope this UOADEV will rebound. Else my friend will be in deep shyt as he finance to buy the share through private placement by loan cry.gif
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a lot of action at 2.53
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 8 2011, 11:36 AM)
Yes, I agree to certain extent. But I hope this UOADEV will rebound. Else my friend will be in deep shyt as he finance to buy the share through private placement by loan cry.gif
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Wah.. This kind of thing.. Is the thing which I dun do..
It can be a bomb to your own
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 8 2011, 11:36 AM)
Yes, I agree to certain extent. But I hope this UOADEV will rebound. Else my friend will be in deep shyt as he finance to buy the share through private placement by loan cry.gif
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I think a lot of private placement fellas are sweating now.

I just placed a call to cancel my pp application for an upcoming IPO.
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QUOTE(Veda @ Jun 8 2011, 11:39 AM)
I think a lot of private placement fellas are sweating now.

I just placed a call to cancel my pp application for an upcoming IPO.
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I think they also cancel lobster lunch today! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:40 AM)
I think they also cancel lobster lunch today!  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Veda @ Jun 8 2011, 11:39 AM)
I think a lot of private placement fellas are sweating now.

I just placed a call to cancel my pp application for an upcoming IPO.
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Which will be MSM, right?. MSM for me is a different story. Currently its already OVERSUBSCRIBE. (Private placement MITI and PP under INSTITUTIONAL).



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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:40 AM)
I think they also cancel lobster lunch today!  tongue.gif
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cry.gif laugh.gif

I also hv to settle for mixed rice instead of caviar for lunch smile.gif
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QUOTE(Veda @ Jun 8 2011, 11:44 AM)
cry.gif    laugh.gif

I also hv to settle for mixed rice instead of caviar for lunch  smile.gif
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How much is Caviar?

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:43 AM)
Which will be MSM, right?. MSM for me is a different story. Currently its already OVERSUBSCRIBE. (Private placement MITI and PP under INSTITUTIONAL).
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MSM should be quite safe and I still expect it to do well on listing day.

But I already decided will not apply for PP for Eversendai (prospectus will be out very soon) or Bumi Armada.


Added on June 8, 2011, 11:53 am[quote=zamans98,Jun 8 2011, 11:49 AM]How much is Caviar?

No idea. Only had it once (for free) at my former boss's private pool party .......

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:49 AM)
How much is Caviar?

user posted image

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Brother.. I not yet lunch time.. You post picture like this..!!!
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Planning to go for fried chicken kandar kus kus for lunch today. Maybe get fried sotong as side dish. The mamak sure will slaughter me RM 20 for that. Anyone joining?

back to the IPO,.. wonder how XOX will fare. Opening at discount?

I may be subscribe for Eversendai & Bumi Armada subject to my prospectus evaluation.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 8 2011, 11:55 AM)
Brother.. I not yet lunch time.. You post picture like this..!!!
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Ok, 12pm already. Time for my mixed rice lunch laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Veda @ Jun 8 2011, 11:51 AM)
MSM should be quite safe and I still expect it to do well on listing day.

But I already decided will not apply for PP for Eversendai (prospectus will be out very soon) or Bumi Armada.


Added on June 8, 2011, 11:53 am
No idea. Only have it once (for free) at my former boss's private pool party ....... which comes with hired chicks in biknis  brows.gif
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Bumi Armada - will be up by 3-5% max in theory, based on the # of shares and historic link to Maxis. High PE (refer to B.Arm thread).

A real caviar dinner (from Iran or Russia) will cost a bomb. 1kg raw Beluga Caviar cost roughly US$5-7K. So that dinner plate will cost you about RM400+, in theory that is.
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jun 8 2011, 11:56 AM)
Planning to go for fried chicken kandar kus kus for lunch today. Maybe get fried sotong as side dish. The mamak sure will slaughter me RM 20 for that. Anyone joining?

back to the IPO,.. wonder how XOX will fare. Opening at discount?

I may be subscribe for Eversendai & Bumi Armada subject to my prospectus evaluation.
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It's the market evaluation that counts, and I suspect Mr Market held UOA's FY10 PE of > 20 aganist it.

I'm wary Mr Market might hold Eversendai's extensive Mideast exposure and B. A.'s PE of 20 against them. I will probably still apply, but at a number of units I'm comforatble with.


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Bumi Armada - will be up by 3-5% max in theory, based on the # of shares and historic link to Maxis. High PE (refer to B.Arm thread).

A real caviar dinner (from Iran or Russia) will cost a bomb. 1kg raw Beluga Caviar cost roughly US$5-7K. So that dinner plate will cost you about RM400+, in theory that is.
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Well, my caviar meal has been delayed tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Veda @ Jun 8 2011, 12:01 PM)
It's the market evaluation that counts, and I suspect Mr Market held UOA's FY10 PE of > 20 aganist it.

I'm wary Mr Market might hold Eversendai's extensive Mideast exposure and B. A.'s PE of 20 against them. I will probably still apply, but at a number of units I'm comforatble with.


Added on June 8, 2011, 12:02 pm
Well, my caviar meal has been delayed  tongue.gif
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well i still wonder, how much the open price for retail investor.. 2.52 or 2.60?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:27 AM)
No, as its against my own policy (with exception to super good counters).
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You're smart bro. I think better hold back and see how it performce first. If continue like that until closing, tmr will be worst i guess.
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Jun 8 2011, 01:22 PM)
well i still wonder, how much the open price for retail investor.. 2.52 or 2.60?
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If u mean IPO price for retail investor, it's 2.52.
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Haizh.. IPO getting more and more lousy already
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 8 2011, 02:05 PM)
Haizh.. IPO getting more and more lousy already
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The reason is simple, too many IPOs recently.
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QUOTE(Veda @ Jun 8 2011, 01:47 PM)
If u mean IPO price for retail investor, it's 2.52.
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thanks veda.. confius.. already _0.08.. should sell this mornig.. thinking the open price is 2.60.. so confius this counter
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retail subscription start to making losses d after adding in transaction cost....if havent sell...

2.51 / 2.52 now....
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Added on June 8, 2011, 3:33 pmThe ship is sinking

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more likely to go down further.. ?
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jun 8 2011, 03:36 PM)
more likely to go down further.. ?
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Yes doh.gif
I think will stop around 2.48 for today
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Hope it won't be another MEGB @.@

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hmm..went in at 2.6..crying now
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QUOTE(coolpeople @ Jun 8 2011, 03:50 PM)
hmm..went in at 2.6..crying now
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u really cool.
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hmm..went in at 2.6..crying now
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Dont worry.. I think they will push back to 2.52 to lessen your loss...
But I have this funny feeling that it is not going to be better for sometime... vmad.gif cry.gif vmad.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(coolpeople @ Jun 8 2011, 03:50 PM)
hmm..went in at 2.6..crying now
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huge support coming at 2.50. Chill~
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 8 2011, 04:00 PM)
huge support coming at 2.50. Chill~
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I think the new support will stick for awhile
Giving us some chance to run.... vmad.gif cry.gif

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i think for MSM no need to apply IPO.sure it will drop like UOA and you can buy on the first day tongue.gif
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QUOTE(greddym3 @ Jun 8 2011, 04:09 PM)
i think for MSM no need to apply IPO.sure it will drop like UOA and you can buy on the first day tongue.gif
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This is overprice from the beginning for a 0.05 par share. Big adjustment by the booking..so dont look good from the beginning.
MSM is in a different business also at a difference pricing..
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since when we trade look at par value... brows.gif
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QUOTE(wijawara @ Jun 8 2011, 04:17 PM)
since when we trade look at par value...  brows.gif
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:54 AM)
2.54/2.55, by looking at the market sentiment, we can reach 2.50/2.51 before being pushed up back to 2.60 but that a risk you have to take.

I'm just watching at sideline.

Rosdi, dah jual ke?
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Theory proven to be true. IPO holders dumping and some1 are buying in big lots and pushed the price upwards. Wait for another 30 minutes - could be a drama in making brows.gif
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QUOTE(wijawara @ Jun 8 2011, 04:17 PM)
since when we trade look at par value...  brows.gif
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Oh of course need to look at it.
That shows the interest in the directors in this company
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ipo at 2.90? wats de open price?
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Could close just green. Share holding pushing up in the last 1 hr.
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it drop lesser than ipo price edi?
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Show is about to start soon..
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Share holders behind the scene.
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Ok, this is spectacular run during the queue fight
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stock market is the best teacher when it comes to handling emotions.today's subject : UOA smile.gif
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Ok, this is spectacular run during the queue fight
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Manage to sell at many prices and at the end manage to make RM716.00... n0t that bad afterall..... brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 8 2011, 04:55 PM)
Manage to sell at many prices and at the end manage to make RM716.00... n0t that bad afterall..... brows.gif  brows.gif
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wow.. wats ur enter price?
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 8 2011, 04:55 PM)
Manage to sell at many prices and at the end manage to make RM716.00... n0t that bad afterall..... brows.gif  brows.gif
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Congrats rosdi! You can buy a few buckets of KFC.. brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 8 2011, 04:59 PM)
Congrats rosdi! You can buy a few buckets of KFC.. brows.gif  brows.gif
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Can have many....
I am also happy that I am finish with this UOA thing. .... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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I will wait for tomolo
hope to get my KFC too
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 04:22 PM)
Theory proven to be true. IPO holders dumping and some1 are buying in big lots and pushed the price upwards. Wait for another 30 minutes - could be a drama in making  brows.gif
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oh yea, spot on. 450pm -- pushed up.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 05:07 PM)
oh yea, spot on. 450pm -- pushed up.
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Zaman
At the end of the day, it is a bad opening day for a much talk about IPO.
I have no more interest in this for the moment.....
I think the expected jump will not going to happen very soon.....
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 05:07 PM)
oh yea, spot on. 450pm -- pushed up.
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Share holders pushed up i guess. Else very no face! tongue.gif
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ahahaha...i think still no face...
stil ended up red...

i thought they push to positive territory....

haih disappointed...although i got no shares in the counter...but still got excited.....lol....they din allocate me any shares during my application...
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1 sen to yellow.. cool.gif cool.gif

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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jun 8 2011, 05:37 PM)
1 sen to yellow..  cool.gif  cool.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 8 2011, 01:39 PM)
You're smart bro. I think better hold back and see how it performce first. If continue like that until closing, tmr will be worst i guess.
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what is your policy bro?

this UOA sucks maximum...


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Manage to sell at many prices and at the end manage to make RM716.00... n0t that bad afterall..... brows.gif  brows.gif
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nice trade bro... mine out of money by 0.13

UOA suck maximum vmad.gif

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Hahaha

Just reading this thread makes me laugh out loud and realise

How moronic our retail investors actually are in Malaysia. Hahaha, the words like goreng, and KFC even came out. WHat a joke you guys are. Genting is just up north if you are looking to gamble.

Wow.. an IPO is for sure going to shoot through the roof when launched ? U guys should roll back 20 years to the 90s when investors are misinformed

Good, now the lot of you are done with selling your margined and can't afford to lose money.. You will see this stock appreciate to its true value within the next few weeks.

Yes, UOA did some window dressing for its IPO. But it doesn't change the fact that this stock will be on a lot of institutional player's radar when thinking of property stocks to invest in Malaysia.


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QUOTE(miruvaaccessories @ Jun 8 2011, 06:54 PM)
Hahaha

Just reading this thread makes me laugh out loud and realise

How moronic our retail investors actually are in Malaysia.  Hahaha, the words like goreng, and KFC even came out.  WHat a joke you guys are.  Genting is just up north if you are looking to gamble.

Wow.. an IPO is for sure going to shoot through the roof when launched ?  U guys should roll back 20 years to the 90s when investors are misinformed

Good, now the lot of you are done with selling your margined and can't afford to lose money.. You will see this stock appreciate to its true value within the next few weeks.

Yes, UOA did some window dressing for its IPO.  But it doesn't change the fact that this stock will be on a lot of institutional player's radar when thinking of property stocks to invest in Malaysia.
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Joke of the day.

The big funds would start to dump if it continues to trade below their IPO price.

Another MEGB maybe.

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Lol you obviously don't know what you are talking about

Big funds dumping it after ONE DAY ? after a q-o-q profit gain ?

This is not some mum and pap shop business here

You obviously have no clue how the fund management business works or is run

Do sell, I would love to accumulate more at 2.40s
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Lol you obviously don't know what you are talking about

Big funds dumping it after ONE DAY ? after a q-o-q profit gain ?

This is not some mum and pap shop business here

You obviously have no clue how the fund management business works or is run

Do sell, I would love to accumulate more at 2.40s
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Must be some dumb funds buying just because of some small jump in profits ( accounting tricks )

Funds could go under water like those in US, do not pretend to be smart ass.

Some ass dumb US funds being tricked to buy MEGB during the IPO.

SEE how dumb they are now to sell now .

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QUOTE(miruvaaccessories @ Jun 8 2011, 06:54 PM)
How moronic our retail investors actually are in Malaysia.  Hahaha, the words like goreng, and KFC even came out.  WHat a joke you guys are.
Is there a problem for using such wordings ?

QUOTE(miruvaaccessories @ Jun 8 2011, 06:54 PM)
Good, now the lot of you are done with selling your margined and can't afford to lose money.. You will see this stock appreciate to its true value within the next few weeks.
So confident about it ar? We got good example of JCY, MEGB, Ivory.. Just to name a few..

QUOTE(miruvaaccessories @ Jun 8 2011, 06:54 PM)
Yes, UOA did some window dressing for its IPO.  But it doesn't change the fact that this stock will be on a lot of institutional player's radar when thinking of property stocks to invest in Malaysia.
There are still a lot of good reputable properties stock in the market with good record in the past.
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Lol you obviously don't know what you are talking about

Big funds dumping it after ONE DAY ? after a q-o-q profit gain ?

This is not some mum and pap shop business here

You obviously have no clue how the fund management business works or is run

Do sell, I would love to accumulate more at 2.40s
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When it reaches RM2.00, I hope you do not cry..

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Why need to con small investors to buy at IPO price of rm 2.53 while u know very well that u can easily get below rm 2.40 in open market ?

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Why need  to con small investors to buy at IPO price of rm 2.53  while u know every well  that u can easily get below rm 2.40 in open market ?
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Maybe one of the trap souls feelings and express... sad.gif

Understood.. Recently, all the IPOs --> SARKS!!

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QUOTE(miruvaaccessories @ Jun 8 2011, 06:54 PM)
Hahaha

Just reading this thread makes me laugh out loud and realise

How moronic our retail investors actually are in Malaysia.  Hahaha, the words like goreng, and KFC even came out.  WHat a joke you guys are.  Genting is just up north if you are looking to gamble.

Wow.. an IPO is for sure going to shoot through the roof when launched ?  U guys should roll back 20 years to the 90s when investors are misinformed

Good, now the lot of you are done with selling your margined and can't afford to lose money.. You will see this stock appreciate to its true value within the next few weeks.

Yes, UOA did some window dressing for its IPO.  But it doesn't change the fact that this stock will be on a lot of institutional player's radar when thinking of property stocks to invest in Malaysia.
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Wah !!!!!!
You must be the smart Alex from the outer space who only dine at the 6 stars or 7 stars hotels.
Had never experience the sensation of taking tha Malaysian KFC or McD.
How much do you make last year? 150% or more?
Moronic or not some of us here only make just a bit more than 70% year on year.
If you had not make that much than may be you have to bring yourself back to earth....
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Wah !!!!!!
You must be the smart Alex from the outer space  who only dine at the 6 stars or 7 stars hotels.
Had never experience the sensation of taking tha Malaysian KFC or McD.
How much do you make last year? 150% or more?
Moronic or not some of us here only make just a bit more than 70% year on year.
If you had not make that much than may be you have to bring yourself back to earth....
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 8 2011, 08:23 PM)
Wah !!!!!!
You must be the smart Alex from the outer space  who only dine at the 6 stars or 7 stars hotels.
Had never experience the sensation of taking tha Malaysian KFC or McD.
How much do you make last year? 150% or more?
Moronic or not some of us here only make just a bit more than 70% year on year.
If you had not make that much than may be you have to bring yourself back to earth....
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well said.... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(coinstar @ Jun 8 2011, 06:07 PM)
what is your policy bro?

this UOA sucks maximum...


Added on June 8, 2011, 6:11 pm

nice trade bro... mine out of money by 0.13

UOA suck maximum vmad.gif
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1- not to trade IPO if you didn't get any
2 - if you got IPO, sell on 1st day, dump all
3 -not to re-enter the dumped IPO once you sold it (with hope it will inch up)

Many bad memories with IPO of similar pattern.
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1- not to trade IPO if you didn't get any
2 - if you got IPO, sell on 1st day, dump all
3 -not to re-enter the dumped IPO once you sold it (with hope it will inch up)

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I got a feeling...tmr UOA will above RM2.65++ !! tongue.gif
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i tot analyst say fair value above RM3.50??

why lah so sux wan??
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I got a feeling...tmr UOA will above RM2.65++ !! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(miruvaaccessories @ Jun 8 2011, 06:54 PM)
Hahaha

Just reading this thread makes me laugh out loud and realise

How moronic our retail investors actually are in Malaysia.  Hahaha, the words like goreng, and KFC even came out.  WHat a joke you guys are.  Genting is just up north if you are looking to gamble.

Wow.. an IPO is for sure going to shoot through the roof when launched ?  U guys should roll back 20 years to the 90s when investors are misinformed

Good, now the lot of you are done with selling your margined and can't afford to lose money.. You will see this stock appreciate to its true value within the next few weeks.

Yes, UOA did some window dressing for its IPO.  But it doesn't change the fact that this stock will be on a lot of institutional player's radar when thinking of property stocks to invest in Malaysia.
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yawn.gif
UOA wage slave spotted!
Must have been made to stay behind by C S Kong to write this drivel.....as it is well known Kong's black face after bell-ringing on June 8th when he saw this over-priced junk going south....

It is so obvious from his comments that this NUMPTY is in the pay of UOA or its IBs.... hmm.gif

They will manipulate the price as long as they can .... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jun 9 2011, 12:45 AM)
yawn.gif
UOA wage slave spotted!
Must have been made to stay behind by C S Kong to write this drivel.....as it is well known Kong's black face after bell-ringing on June 8th when he saw this over-priced junk going south....

It is so obvious from his comments that this NUMPTY is in the pay of UOA or its IBs.... hmm.gif 

They will manipulate the price as long as they can .... shakehead.gif
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LOL wage slave ?

I can guarantee you, in stocks you choose the battles you fight for.

I don't work for UOA for sure

and whats for sure is that i made more than a slow 70% in a BULL market last year..

if you made 70% in a bull market i think you should just retire and put your funds in a mutual fund


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QUOTE(miruvaaccessories @ Jun 9 2011, 01:15 AM)
LOL wage slave ?

I can guarantee you, in stocks you choose the battles you fight for.

I don't work for UOA for sure

and whats for sure is that i made more than a slow 70% in a BULL market last year..

if you made 70% in a bull market i think you should just retire and put your funds in a mutual fund
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Nothing is guarantee in stocks mate. First of all congratulations to you on making such an enviable return from the market. However, please do learn how to respect other forumers view. I don't think using the words such as "goreng', "KFC" to describe something in association with stocks is humiliating. After all, we only live shortly, so why so serious? We are all here to share our view and if you do have great view on UOADEV, tell us more be it fundamentally or technically and not those words which bring us no benefit at all.

Allow me to share a few quotes with you:
Form is temporary, class is permanent. It is good to be humble at times rather than being forced to swallow a humble pie.

Cheers, no offense taken. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(miruvaaccessories @ Jun 9 2011, 01:15 AM)
LOL wage slave ?

I can guarantee you, in stocks you choose the battles you fight for.

I don't work for UOA for sure

and whats for sure is that i made more than a slow 70% in a BULL market last year..

if you made 70% in a bull market i think you should just retire and put your funds in a mutual fund
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My dearest forumer, we have diferent ways to live, and we have different ways to choose and to behave. this makes the socety interesting, oh, also makes sotck market exciting. its great to hear that you made 70% last year. but mind you, you are not the only one that makes 70%.

made 70% and retire? then whats next? lying like a couch potato and waiting for the final call? i dont think many of us would do that. like many people say, life is a gamble, stock market is a gamble no matter how you approach it. we should respect our fellowforumers here, and lay humble to listen and to appreciate the contribution. KFC and McD? i love it as i look at things with warmth and loving arms.

yes, we have different ways to live and to choose. i am sure many of us also made over 70% last yea, ot, since 2008. but then, we are still ehre to stay instead of retiring .....

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OSK said fair value is at 3.57. Let see how true...


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y bother tat guy la ....

look at his profile...

just a fella got nth to do...come and shoot ppl around...and brag around....

let him say wat him wan...

when nobody entertain him...

he be gone....

cheers....

today down !!!
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I got a feeling...tmr UOA will above RM2.65++ !! tongue.gif
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But.. I got a feeling..today will close above RM2.65...
Hope my feel is correct !! biggrin.gif
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Today UOA not performing also. It will probably ending at 2.5 or below today.
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Today UOA not performing also. It will probably ending at 2.5 or below today.
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Come ~! Lets Bet for one MCD dinner plate !!
I say will above RM2.60 ! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Jun 9 2011, 09:53 AM)
Come ~! Lets Bet for one MCD dinner plate !!
I say will above RM2.60 ! icon_rolleyes.gif
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I have same thinking like you too. Today should close 2.63

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I have same thinking like you too. Today should close 2.63
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Yeah !! THE FEELING IS STRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG !!!!!!!! rclxms.gif
I prefer those counter with low vol. than big vol...
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Yeah !! THE FEELING IS STRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG !!!!!!!!  rclxms.gif
I prefer those counter with low vol. than big vol...
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IMO better focus on other better yielding property counter.


was the par value RM0.05? that explains......they made out hmm.gif
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just wondering if upcoming IPOs will behave like this one.. 3rd case already if not mistaken
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just wondering if upcoming IPOs will behave like this one.. 3rd case already if not mistaken
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I have same thinking like you too. Today should close 2.63
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So chun 2.63 ? tongue.gif Let's see how it perform by the end of the day.
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1- not to trade IPO if you didn't get any
2 - if you got IPO, sell on 1st day, dump all
3 -not to re-enter the dumped IPO once you sold it (with hope it will inch up)

Many bad memories with IPO of similar pattern.
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no. 2 can amend a bit ar? after pchem incidence not necessary to dump on the first day...
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I believe that this counter may size up its distance to the north after its price stabilize, after the OP satisfies with the accumulated pool. That IMHO may take place a month from now. Opinions ?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 10:47 PM)
1- not to trade IPO if you didn't get any
2 - if you got IPO, sell on 1st day, dump all
3 -not to re-enter the dumped IPO once you sold it (with hope it will inch up)

Many bad memories with IPO of similar pattern.
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Mine quite the same as yours
got 1 more you forgot

4 - Dont buy Made in China Share ehhehe


Added on June 9, 2011, 2:51 pmi think keep it for a while...after all the panic subside
the stock will come back say 1-2 weeks like pchem

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I believe that this counter may size up its distance to the north after its price stabilize, after the OP satisfies with the accumulated pool. That IMHO may take place a month from now. Opinions ?
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Should be following the footsteps of PCHEM, that's my view.
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I concur that the price should stablise in a couple of weeks, then go up ..... like Pchem (though I doubt UOA will go up by 30%).

First panic is created ..... then the weak hands let go their shares cheaply ..... then the strong hands open their bags to collect the dropped loot .... then the strong hands push the price up brows.gif

I hold firm to my view that this is a quality counter - but I let go on listing day cause I see better opportunities elsewhere.
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QUOTE(coinstar @ Jun 9 2011, 02:10 PM)
no. 2 can amend a bit ar? after pchem incidence not necessary to dump on the first day...
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Also dumped. That is a rare gem. I sold also upon listing at whatever price and keep the cash. After all, small lot I got, so no worries and no tear shed over it.
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2.63 will not happen today. I guess lao sai all the way to 2.5 is more likely. tongue.gif
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SINCE YESTERDAY LISTING DROP UNTIL NOW ~~ WTF !!
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lovely counter.. was hoping to bite on a rally today but nothing happened sad.gif
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Luckiy didnt apply UOA IPO...WAsting time ~~ Wasting money ~~!!
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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Jun 9 2011, 05:07 PM)
Luckiy didnt apply UOA IPO...WAsting time ~~ Wasting money ~~!!
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Actually not fair to say so, those got public tranche at 2.52 sold at opening bell still have some peanut money to earn, and this type of counter is like that one, those expect this counter fly to the moon on the first day might have enter into the wrong counter... tongue.gif
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Pity those who got stuck.

So based on experience, noted that no way this can breached 2.60.

Not even in 1~2 months in future. Kanasai liao.

Good luck.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 9 2011, 05:26 PM)
Pity those who got stuck.

So based on experience, noted that no way this can breached 2.60.

Not even in 1~2 months in future. Kanasai liao.

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i tot u get some after u apply for IPO?
we should eye on XOX now
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 9 2011, 05:26 PM)
Pity those who got stuck.

So based on experience, noted that no way this can breached 2.60.

Not even in 1~2 months in future. Kanasai liao.

Good luck.
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i tot u get some after u apply for IPO?
we should eye on XOX now
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Nope, its against my rule, refer to previous posts.
XOX will run a sprint race and the baton will dropped. brows.gif
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UOA if drop to RM2.45...WIll wallap more 300 lots....
Drop...collect again ~~
I believe UOA is a damn nice potential company ! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Jun 10 2011, 12:43 AM)
UOA if drop to RM2.45...WIll wallap more 300 lots....
Drop...collect again ~~
I believe UOA is a damn nice potential company ! tongue.gif
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If drop 245, u need to cut loss my fren.. UOA worthy meh?
Better go and buy MHB
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 10 2011, 12:59 AM)
If drop 245, u need to cut loss my fren.. UOA worthy meh?
Better go and buy MHB
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I see it the same way as you.. this 0.05 par get alot of ppl piss off
at 2.50 it is 50 times above the par value.....
It also means that the company don't have to maintain a lot of reserved.
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no...wat is the relation of par n price?
i know uoa is gd,doesnt mean it will rise

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 10 2011, 07:14 AM)
I see it the same way as you.. this 0.05 par get alot of ppl piss off
at 2.50 it is 50 times above the par value.....
It also means that the company don't have to maintain a lot of reserved.
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Agree. that's why i asked why the par value is so low while the IPO price is so high at the beginning of this thread.
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anyone received the 0.38sen per share refund cheque for UOA IPO?
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Since like support line at RM2.50 biggrin.gif

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post Jun 10 2011, 11:16 AM

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par value issue again? lol as i said b4, not related to market price (for me lah)

for example in a totally different topic (from bursa)->

Details of corporate proposal : The issuance of 2,219,400 units is pursuant to the part payment of management fees in units to Sunway REIT Management Sdn Bhd, the Manager of Sunway Real Estate Investment Trust, for the third financial quarter ended 31 March 2011.

The total management fee payable to the Manager for the third financial quarter ended 31 March 2011 amounted to RM4,641,737.99, whereby approximately RM2,320,869.00 was satisfied via the issuance of new units to the Manager. Based on the 10-day volume weighted average price of the units up to and including 31 March 2011 of RM1.0457, the number of units issued to the Manager was 2,219,400 units.

No. of shares issued under this corporate proposal
: 2,219,400
Issue price per share ($$) : MYR 1.046
Par Value ($$) : MYR 0.000

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post Jun 10 2011, 01:06 PM

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Par value has no meaning whatsoever. Luckily I didn't apply for this UOA.
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post Jun 10 2011, 01:24 PM

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KUALA LUMPUR: UOA Development Bhd’s major shareholder bought 7.29 million shares of the company on June 8, when it made its debut on the Main Market of Bursa Malaysia.

A filing with Bursa Malaysia showed it acquired the shares in the open market and raised its stake to 66.58% or 796.15 million shares.

Another filing showed United Overseas Australia Ltd acquiring 2.02 million shares on the same day. It is deemed to have indirect interest throught is shareholding in UOA Holdings.

UOA Development made a lacklustre debut and closed one sen lower at RM2.59 with 78 million shares done on June 8. It had earlier fallen to its intra-day low of RM2.48.

The institutional price was RM2.60 and the final retail price at RM2.52 after the book-building exercise.

Based on its institutional strike price of RM2.60, it has a market capitalisation of RM3.10 billion.

The initial public offering was the largest IPO in Southeast Asia in this year to date and has raised RM876.2 million from local and international institutional investors and RM176.4 million from retail investors. - TheEdge
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 10 2011, 01:06 PM)
Par value has no meaning whatsoever. Luckily I didn't apply for this UOA.
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I applied but did not get. sweat.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 02:23 PM

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Rebounding for early dip, can we see a higher closing. Keep your fingers crossed..
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 10 2011, 01:06 PM)
Par value has no meaning whatsoever. Luckily I didn't apply for this UOA.
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For IPO the PAR value have alot of meaning... lol
Which school that say no meaning?
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 10 2011, 02:23 PM)
Rebounding for early dip, can we see a higher closing. Keep your fingers crossed..
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Strongly don't believe it will cross the IPO price for Inst. ie at 260
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 10 2011, 02:37 PM)
For IPO the PAR value have alot of meaning... lol
Which school that say no meaning?
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That's what I learn when my lecturer teaching me in Corporate Reporting in ACCA. Also I heard the same thing in Strategic Financial Management class, old 3.7 ACCA paper where lecturer mentioned par value is not really important anymore and should be abolished real soon, 4 years ago. Genting Singapore is issued at no par value, correct me if wrong.

Par value stock has no relation to market value and, as a concept, is somewhat archaic. The par value of a stock was the share price upon initial offering; the issuing company promised not to issue further shares below par value, so investors could be confident that no one else was receiving a more favorable issue price. Thus, par value is a nominal value of a security which is determined by an issuing company as a minimum price. This was far more important in unregulated equity markets than in the regulated markets that exist today.

Par value also has bookkeeping purposes. It allows the company to put a de minimis value for the stock on the company's financial statement.

Many common stocks issued today do not have par values; those that do (usually only in jurisdictions where par values are required by law) have extremely low par values (often the smallest unit of currency in circulation), for example a penny par value on a stock issued at USD$25/share. Most states do not allow a company to issue stock below par value.

Even in jurisdictions that permit the issue of stock with no par value, the par value of a stock may affect its tax treatment. For example, Delaware permits the issue of stock either with or without a par value, but by choosing to assign a par value, a corporation may significantly reduce its franchise tax liability.[1]

No-par stocks have "no par value" printed on their certificates. Instead of par value, some U.S. states allow no-par stocks to have a stated value, set by the board of directors of the corporation, which serves the same purpose as par value in setting the minimum legal capital that the corporation must have after paying any dividends or buying back its stock.

Preferred stock par value remains relevant, and tends to reflect issue price. Dividends on preferred stocks are calculated as a percentage of par value.

Also, par value still matters for a callable common stock: the call price is usually either par value or a small fixed percentage over par value.

In the United States, it is legal for a corporation to issue "watered" shares below par value. However, the purchasers of "watered" shares incur an accounting liability to the corporation for the difference between the par value and the price they paid. Today, in many jurisdictions, par values are no longer required for common stocks.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Par_value
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post Jun 10 2011, 03:07 PM

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The major shareholders are buying back to support the price....low of 2.49 today. I might consider if it is around 2.00.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 10 2011, 03:07 PM)
The major shareholders are buying back to support the price....low of 2.49 today. I might consider if it is around 2.00.
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RM 2? Won't be happening bro, unless KLCI crash 300 points..
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 10 2011, 03:24 PM)
RM 2? Won't be happening bro, unless KLCI crash 300 points..
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post Jun 10 2011, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 10 2011, 03:24 PM)
RM 2? Won't be happening bro, unless KLCI crash 300 points..
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Sorry bro, you are absolutely wrong. It does not take a CI to dive 100 points to push down a single counter. It happened many-many times before to some counter. So, please la. shakehead.gif

Index super GREEN and a counter can dive more than 30%.
Example today :
MENTIGA : -0.12c or -13%, index GREEN +5pts
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 10 2011, 03:07 PM)
The major shareholders are buying back to support the price....low of 2.49 today. I might consider if it is around 2.00.
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Rm2.00 ?? You must be dreaming Man !! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Jun 10 2011, 04:56 PM)
Rm2.00 ?? You must be dreaming Man !!  notworthy.gif
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When MEGB is at RM4, nobody will think it will go down to RM3. And When at RM3, nobody knew it will plunge to RM2.. And so on.

I think UOA Dev at RM2, very possible. Just a matter of time
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 10 2011, 05:00 PM)
When MEGB is at RM4, nobody will think it will go down to RM3. And When at RM3, nobody knew it will plunge to RM2.. And so on.

I think UOA Dev at RM2, very possible. Just a matter of time
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They just BUY BACK THEIR SHARES At RM2.48...
I dont think this counter will drop below that...
Come on ! Guys !!
Just IPO listing drop few cent... Dont so fast Dissapoint !! tongue.gif
I know this company well ~~ Is damn potential company... I have invest few UOA property before,,,
I believe Their Fair value really RM3.50 !!!!! rclxm9.gif
Cheers !
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Finally found an article that shed some light on this counter's disappointing debut:

UOA price slide continues
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...23&sec=business

Ppl say Mr Market is irrational and unsophisticated, but I'm tempted to add words like "ignorant" and "idiotic" tongue.gif

Oh well, it's water under the bridge ..... I'm done with this counter and have no intention of buying it again ..... unless it hits RM1.20! drool.gif laugh.gif



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post Jun 10 2011, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Jun 10 2011, 05:08 PM)
They just BUY BACK THEIR SHARES At RM2.48...
I dont think this counter will drop below that...
Come on ! Guys !!
Just IPO listing drop few cent... Dont so fast Dissapoint !!  tongue.gif
I know this company well ~~ Is damn potential company... I have invest few UOA property before,,,
I believe Their Fair value really RM3.50 !!!!!  rclxm9.gif
Cheers !
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Don't think so it will. You bought UOA property; it got nothing to do with putting FAITH and self PROJECTION.
This current market thinking is more towards sentiment or Price Action.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 10 2011, 05:31 PM)
Don't think so it will. You bought UOA property; it got nothing to do with putting FAITH and self PROJECTION.
This current market thinking is more towards sentiment or Price Action.
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Agree.
If the general market thinks that way, don't think you are smart, and act other wise.
Going against a wave will be deadly, especially with this IPO, with no past record on share prices
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 10 2011, 06:22 PM)
Agree.
If the general market thinks that way, don't think you are smart, and act other wise.
Going against a wave will be deadly, especially with this IPO, with no past record on share prices
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Sorry
I think the fair price for this share is only between 0.80 to 1.20.
I had sold all my shares for 1+% profit on the first day.
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 10 2011, 06:32 PM)
Sorry
I think the fair price for this share is only between 0.80 to 1.20.
I had sold all my shares for 1+% profit on the first day.
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Smart move bro smile.gif
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jun 10 2011, 06:32 PM)
Sorry
I think the fair price for this share is only between 0.80 to 1.20.
I had sold all my shares for 1+% profit on the first day.
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I would agree with that. rclxms.gif
The numbers in their 500++ page IPO document just don't stack up.
Plus - I have some direct experience with the people behind this operation - and it isn't anyone whose name has appeared in the press or TV or radio.

People who are terrified of their customers, their shareholders or who hide behind 'front-men' should never be trusted to run an ice-cream stall, let alone a publicly-listed company.

Zamans is right - this is mainly an exercise by the banks to get their cash back - quick!!
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Jun 10 2011, 10:00 PM)
I would agree with that. rclxms.gif
The numbers in their 500++ page IPO document just don't stack up.
Plus - I have some direct experience with the people behind this operation - and it isn't anyone whose name has appeared in the press or TV or radio.

People who are terrified of their customers, their shareholders or who hide behind 'front-men' should never be trusted to run an ice-cream stall, let alone a publicly-listed company.

Zamans is right - this is mainly an exercise by the banks to get their cash back - quick!!
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Thanks David. You got a lot of big sharks connections. hmm.gif
UOA gone case now. doh.gif

Time to recoup your losses with other counters.
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walau. uoa drops to 2.47 now. who mentioned earlier that it will not drop below 2.48? luckily i abandoned the ship earlier.
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post Jun 13 2011, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Jun 10 2011, 05:08 PM)
They just BUY BACK THEIR SHARES At RM2.48...
I dont think this counter will drop below that...
Come on ! Guys !!
Just IPO listing drop few cent... Dont so fast Dissapoint !!  tongue.gif
I know this company well ~~ Is damn potential company... I have invest few UOA property before,,,
I believe Their Fair value really RM3.50 !!!!!  rclxm9.gif
Cheers !
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Now are u disappointed or not yet?
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QUOTE(cckiong @ Jun 13 2011, 10:23 AM)
walau. uoa drops to 2.47 now. who mentioned earlier that it will not drop below 2.48? luckily i abandoned the ship earlier.
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anybody got any idea how low will it drop to ?

or where is the "strong" support level ?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 13 2011, 10:48 AM)
Now are u disappointed or not yet?
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hahhaa...zaman u really negative about tis counter and taruh nice nice those ppl who support it...



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QUOTE(noswear @ Jun 13 2011, 11:02 AM)
hahhaa...zaman u really negative about tis counter and taruh nice nice those ppl who support it...
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normal la.. all counter under perform sure kena bash one what.. when make profit all bz enjoying their lobster/sharkfin tongue.gif
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QUOTE(noswear @ Jun 13 2011, 11:02 AM)
hahhaa...zaman u really negative about tis counter and taruh nice nice those ppl who support it...
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I got 2 lesson learnt from China based IPO. So I stayed out of this one.
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wa..just cut loss at 2.46 that i bought at opening market at 2.6...second loss in my experience with the first one also entering into sozo at the opening price...sigh
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Hi, Has anyone receive the refund of RM0.38 cents??

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