UOA Group, Everything About UOADEV
UOA Group, Everything About UOADEV
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May 18 2011, 04:14 PM
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My advice to newbies is: if you do not recognise a company's name and have no idea what business it is in .... then you have no business applying for its IPO shares. Applying for IPO does not mean you'll make money. Some IPOs go below its offer price on listing day itself. |
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May 19 2011, 04:39 PM
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May 19 2011, 05:26 PM
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May 22 2011, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(tineagle @ May 22 2011, 09:17 PM) Im guessing its similar with Maybank ATM which i used to apply today for myself. In alexander3133's case, RM145 means 50 shares, yet he keyed in '5 lots'. It asks for 'lots' but in turn what it means is shares. So if you want to apply for 1000 shares for RM2.9k, you need to input 1000, and not 10. For your case if u want to apply for 500 shares, then input 500 instead of 5. Just to confirm, Maybank ATM uses 'lots' instead of 'units'? Added on May 22, 2011, 9:28 pm QUOTE(veilside2010 @ May 22 2011, 09:10 PM) URGENT !! I don't think so. Logically, your bank a/c name should be the same as CDS name.Can I use my fren Maybank account to apply IPO thru my CDS number ?!! Hope can help ! THANKS GUYS !! This post has been edited by Veda: May 22 2011, 09:28 PM |
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May 23 2011, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 22 2011, 11:37 PM) But... the ATM screen there clearly wrote lot not share. It's best to give your bank's customer service line a call........ The receipt printed out from the ATM also writing lot. I don't dare to key in 50 that time because just in case they made mistake in the pricing or quantity, I have not much money to pay them. 1 unit = RM 2.90 1 lot = 100 units = RM 290 5 lots = 500 units = RM RM 1450 I just scare the "in case". So, if happened to be "unit" instead of "lot", am I able to edit my order? Because I already applied. I'll be applying this evening, hope didn't get any unpleasant surprises. |
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May 25 2011, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(noswear @ May 19 2011, 11:18 AM) actually why so obsess about par value?? valuation of stocks is derived from earnings, sum part value, div, etc and not par value....why so concern?? Par value is merely a reference for event as follows: 1) when a company declared dividend by way of say 10% which means = 10% of par value.....but it does not matter much as the company can choose to declare in say 10 cents , 20 cents, etc instead of percentage of par.... 2) par value is only use as reference when determining the rights issues price as company are not allow to set price below par.... "correct me if i am wrong".... Added on May 25, 2011, 12:34 am QUOTE(cwhong @ May 25 2011, 12:23 AM) Yes, UOA Reit and UOA Dev are under the same group.Added on May 25, 2011, 12:41 amI'm selective about the IPOs that I apply and I like to browse through the prospectus ..... and I like UOA Dev. Maybe I'll list out the reasons tomorrow. Sleepy now. This post has been edited by Veda: May 25 2011, 12:44 AM |
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May 25 2011, 06:29 PM
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Ok, I've applied for this IPO via ATM.
The reasons why I like UOA Development: 1. Strong brand name. UOA is known among investors as a builder of premium properties that delivers ahead of shedule. Some ppl may recommend certain other developer stock because ....... oh, oh! Low PE!.......but note that there are some developers with quality control issues, have a reputation for delivering late, have land in so so locations, or are smallish, and hence trading at a discount. Quality does not come cheap, people. 2. Major player. UOA Dev will be the 4th largest property stock in Bursa after listing. 3. Institutional support. EPF as cornerstone investor. Enuff said. 4. Landbank in prime locations. 5. FY11 earnings surge. Selling property is not like selling 3-in-1 coffee. Earnings zig zag cause of the timing of launches and completion. Earnings for FY11 are estimated to be at least double that of previous year. As for property prices dropping/market crashing ..... LOL: People have been 'warning' about that for years. There's a 'will property prices drop?' thread started 3 years ago. Prices have gone up a lot since then http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/741185 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1763572 And in the unlikely event of a property market crash, it'll affect those low PE property counters as well. In fact, it'll affect the whole stock market Sekian. This post has been edited by Veda: May 25 2011, 08:29 PM |
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May 29 2011, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ May 29 2011, 08:33 PM) When I first seeing people talk about the bumi/ non-bumi allocation, I was expecting for some Let's hope the pleasantness is maintained after we find out whether we get the shares or not tomorrow. Looking at the stats, there's bound to be a lot of disappointment.This post has been edited by Veda: May 29 2011, 10:28 PM |
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May 29 2011, 11:03 PM
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May 29 2011, 11:20 PM
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May 30 2011, 08:05 PM
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Yay! Managed to get. |
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May 30 2011, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ May 30 2011, 08:14 PM) Congrats man! I feel that I'm so unlucky even though there are so many shares and my applicant brackets at 48%~ Anyway, hopefully you guys make some good bucks of it from the first day trading! My target price for it is RM 2.95 Thanks! Didn't realise u are bumi. Actually I was surprised and had a sinking feeling after seeing the number of applicants in my bracket ..... glad managed to strike this time. |
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Jun 8 2011, 11:31 AM
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I sold all on average price of RM2.60, for peanut profits. Think the counter can keep for long term ........ however, I don't want to be tied down and miss other opportunities. Oh, well ...... profit is profit. However, this disappointment is going to cause a drastic change to my investment strategy. Live and learn |
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Jun 8 2011, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(andrewckj @ Jun 8 2011, 11:36 AM) Yes, I agree to certain extent. But I hope this UOADEV will rebound. Else my friend will be in deep shyt as he finance to buy the share through private placement by loan I think a lot of private placement fellas are sweating now.I just placed a call to cancel my pp application for an upcoming IPO. |
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Jun 8 2011, 11:44 AM
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Jun 8 2011, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:43 AM) Which will be MSM, right?. MSM for me is a different story. Currently its already OVERSUBSCRIBE. (Private placement MITI and PP under INSTITUTIONAL). MSM should be quite safe and I still expect it to do well on listing day. But I already decided will not apply for PP for Eversendai (prospectus will be out very soon) or Bumi Armada. Added on June 8, 2011, 11:53 am[quote=zamans98,Jun 8 2011, 11:49 AM]How much is Caviar? No idea. Only had it once (for free) at my former boss's private pool party ....... This post has been edited by Veda: Jun 8 2011, 11:56 AM |
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Jun 8 2011, 11:57 AM
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Jun 8 2011, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(nasT @ Jun 8 2011, 11:56 AM) Planning to go for fried chicken kandar kus kus for lunch today. Maybe get fried sotong as side dish. The mamak sure will slaughter me RM 20 for that. Anyone joining? It's the market evaluation that counts, and I suspect Mr Market held UOA's FY10 PE of > 20 aganist it.back to the IPO,.. wonder how XOX will fare. Opening at discount? I may be subscribe for Eversendai & Bumi Armada subject to my prospectus evaluation. I'm wary Mr Market might hold Eversendai's extensive Mideast exposure and B. A.'s PE of 20 against them. I will probably still apply, but at a number of units I'm comforatble with. Added on June 8, 2011, 12:02 pm QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 8 2011, 11:58 AM) Bumi Armada - will be up by 3-5% max in theory, based on the # of shares and historic link to Maxis. High PE (refer to B.Arm thread). Well, my caviar meal has been delayed A real caviar dinner (from Iran or Russia) will cost a bomb. 1kg raw Beluga Caviar cost roughly US$5-7K. So that dinner plate will cost you about RM400+, in theory that is. This post has been edited by Veda: Jun 8 2011, 12:02 PM |
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Jun 8 2011, 01:47 PM
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Jun 9 2011, 03:25 PM
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I concur that the price should stablise in a couple of weeks, then go up ..... like Pchem (though I doubt UOA will go up by 30%). First panic is created ..... then the weak hands let go their shares cheaply ..... then the strong hands open their bags to collect the dropped loot .... then the strong hands push the price up I hold firm to my view that this is a quality counter - but I let go on listing day cause I see better opportunities elsewhere. |
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