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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V7, Nikon announcement on Mar/Apr ?!

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post Mar 22 2011, 04:35 PM

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nikon knows their own raw file algorithm better than anyone else. it's their algorithm what...

that said, by no means other party interpretation of the nikon raw file are sloppy. personally i find the difference nothing to be picky about.
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:35 PM

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I use Lightroom, but in the end also open the file with Photoshop through Camera Raw with the settings saved in the .xmp format.
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:35 PM

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A comparison done !
http://www.prophotoshow.net/2009/02/26/noi...mparisonreview/

I just googled laugh.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:37 PM

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photoshop and lightroom both uses the same camera raw la :|
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(fubs @ Mar 22 2011, 04:35 PM)
nikon knows their own raw file algorithm better than anyone else. it's their algorithm what...

that said, by no means other party interpretation of the nikon raw file are sloppy. personally i find the difference nothing to be picky about.
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I used to use LR for 2-3 years before I got my hand on NX2.
I feel LR color and NX2 color different by quite a bit. hmm.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:47 PM

I was like LOL :D
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QUOTE(cik_tak @ Mar 22 2011, 03:52 PM)
i'll invite both of u to tag with me nanti.
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okay.. waiting for a text from you bro. tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 22 2011, 04:47 PM)
okay.. waiting for a text from you bro. tongue.gif
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work work~!! XD
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post Mar 22 2011, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 22 2011, 04:17 PM)
oh ya?
says who?
You can also ask around if you think I'm wrong.

You have better connections with Nikon. Ask them. biggrin.gif

For volume and speed, I would use Lightroom. For quality, it's NX2.

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 04:21 PM)
The adjust button above ? Can't click ?
Nope.

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 04:21 PM)
I bet he never come across capture one ? unsure.gif
What makes you so sure I have not tried Capture One? whistling.gif

QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 22 2011, 04:35 PM)
Good find. The review done was on noise reduction. I thought the original discussion was about the best RAW/NEF convertor.

Anyway, the best noise reduction ever to come out from Nikon is the D3s/D3/D700. laugh.gif nod.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 22 2011, 05:18 PM)
For volume and speed, I would use Lightroom. For quality, it's NX2.
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but i thought the NX 2 is the best. i am sure one can sacrifice a bit of time for best result which is something permanent. clients don't take excuses like oh i dont have enough time hence i use the 2nd best conversion for you.
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post Mar 22 2011, 05:35 PM

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i think dun give them original photo to compare then okay edi... no need compare. whistling.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 22 2011, 05:32 PM)
but i thought the NX 2 is the best. i am sure one can sacrifice a bit of time for best result which is something permanent. clients don't take excuses like oh i dont have enough time hence i use the 2nd best conversion for you.
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But if you need to do processing on them, won't Camera Raw be the best option? Instead of NEF -> JPEG -> Photoshop -> JPEG.

Go from NEF -> Photoshop -> JPEG.
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post Mar 22 2011, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 22 2011, 05:32 PM)
but i thought the NX 2 is the best. i am sure one can sacrifice a bit of time for best result which is something permanent. clients don't take excuses like oh i dont have enough time hence i use the 2nd best conversion for you.
There's no such thing as best software. Depends on what you are willing to trade off. Speed or quality.

Sorry. I don't think I'm qualified to answer as I'm neither a client or somebody who shoots for a living. I personally think it depends on the client. If the client is picky, then he has the right to say that your prints are not up to standard and you don't get paid. Else, the client accepts it and you're happy.

Besides like what Agito666 said, if they do not have a something to compare, how are they going to complain?
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 22 2011, 04:47 PM)
okay.. waiting for a text from you bro. tongue.gif
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eh shoot what? tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2011, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 22 2011, 06:07 PM)
Go from NEF -> Photoshop -> JPEG.
To get the best, use NX2 and convert your NEF to TIFF. Open the TIFF file in Photoshop and do your magic there and flatten / apply colour profile / convert to JPG.

In my opinion, the route above is only when you want the photo to become something special and more arty. You would probably select the best few of them and probably run them through skin softening etc. If you shot your photos correct, I don't see a reason for using Photoshop.
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post Mar 22 2011, 07:54 PM

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if you're talking clients, the only thing that matters is the output lah. you may use capturenx, lr, transfer to film, rescan, photoshop, etc etc;

no matter what method you use oso can la as long as the output is nice, youre proud of it and the client likes it. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fubs @ Mar 22 2011, 07:54 PM)
if you're talking clients, the only thing that matters is the output lah. you may use capturenx, lr, transfer to film, rescan, photoshop, etc etc;

no matter what method you use oso can la as long as the output is nice, youre proud of it and the client likes it. biggrin.gif
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there are clients who will reject you right away if you present them with JPGs.
especially those in fashion etc, and who print huge ads etc.

if ur talking about wedding clients etc, sure most of them dont care.

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post Mar 22 2011, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 22 2011, 06:38 PM)
To get the best, use NX2 and convert your NEF to TIFF. Open the TIFF file in Photoshop and do your magic there and flatten / apply colour profile / convert to JPG.

In my opinion, the route above is only when you want the photo to become something special and more arty. You would probably select the best few of them and probably run them through skin softening etc. If you shot your photos correct, I don't see a reason for using Photoshop.
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NEF -> TIFF -> Photoshop -> JPEG is better than NEF -> Photoshop -> JPEG? Even with the extra step?

Well, photoshop is almost certainly require if you're talking about portraiture. Probably for landscaping and the rest you don't need it as much. But I'm still aiming at something like what my friend does for his wedding jobs, (very far away from it sad.gif, also kinda lazy at times).

Examples done by my friend,

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He did demonstrated to me how he did those and it was quite a lot of steps involving layers and layers. Dodging, burning, textures, masking etc.
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post Mar 22 2011, 08:45 PM

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post Mar 22 2011, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Mar 22 2011, 08:45 PM)
So who going to mid valley next Saturday?
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im only going on thu.
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QUOTE(cik_tak @ Mar 22 2011, 03:52 PM)
i'll invite both of u to tag with me nanti.
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i wish there will be somebody to invite me to tag along~ although i just use cheapo gears biggrin.gif

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