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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V7, Nikon announcement on Mar/Apr ?!

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post Mar 21 2011, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Mar 21 2011, 04:46 PM)
When shooting RAW ... i notice once i imported into LR ...the color is not the same as i shoot it. Does LR do a basic editting first? I already set the white balance 'as-shot'.
Most of the times, my shot seems brighter/over-exposed once imported. I had to go and 'double click' each value to make it back to default. And clicking the auto tone just makes it under-exposed/darker ...

correcting the color and white balance again is very tricky ... sad.gif
*i shoot products too. and corecting the the colors/whitebalance is important to me. i want them to look natural and the color matches the real item as much as possible.  blush.gif
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Lightroom have preset settings for RAW files, so it will adjust the brightness, contrast, etc when you import the RAW files and loaded the presets.

There is also Lens correction which you can apply.


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post Mar 21 2011, 04:52 PM

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so tonight try find LR to try out, tomorrow try shoot same subject again biggrin.gif
just now the 2 photo is quick edit in Phtoshop RAW 5.0 (?), anyway it is part of photoshop... tonight try find lightroom installer...is the program big? hmm.gif
or use nikon software? i try search in official site got or not...

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 21 2011, 04:49 PM)
Let's say if you shoot Vivid default mode, you can actually configure LR to apply Vivid processing to your image. It will look 99% similar to your LCD smile.gif. But if you start tweaking saturation etc then it will look different...
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:51 PM)
Lightroom have preset settings for RAW files, so it will adjust the brightness, contrast, etc when you import the RAW files and loaded the presets.

There is also Lens correction which you can apply.
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so how do i get back the image which i saw on screen when i shoot it? tongue.gif
how to disable the auto adjust feature in LR? ... sometimes the pic on the camera just needs a little tweaking.

sorry, just started trying to shoot RAW .. hehe. used to shoot jpg all these while.
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post Mar 21 2011, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 21 2011, 04:49 PM)
Let's say if you shoot Vivid default mode, you can actually configure LR to apply Vivid processing to your image. It will look 99% similar to your LCD smile.gif. But if you start tweaking saturation etc then it will look different...
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so you are saying you are encourage to shoot in normal and PP the raw file to vivid?
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post Mar 21 2011, 04:57 PM

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agito ... u can dwld the view nx2 from nikon site
http://nikonimglib.com/nvnx/index_en_int.html#os-windows
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post Mar 21 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:56 PM)
so you are saying you are encourage to shoot in normal and PP the raw file to vivid?
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It doesn't matter what picture control you shoot, because when you import to LR you basically define what settings you want.
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Mar 21 2011, 04:55 PM)
so how do i get back the image which i saw on screen when i shoot it? tongue.gif
how to disable the auto adjust feature in LR? ... sometimes the pic on the camera just needs a little tweaking.

sorry, just started trying to shoot RAW .. hehe. used to shoot jpg all these while.
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Disable import presets so that no presets will be applied for future imports.

Changes made to your pictures are shown in the develop module. You should be able to reset them by undoing a few settings (white balance, brightness, contrast). Then you can just apply the settings to all pictures.

Probably there's a better way to do this. But this is what i can think of for now. Not infront of my home comp with lightroom :\
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:56 PM)
so you are saying you are encourage to shoot in normal and PP the raw file to vivid?
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Let just say this, there is a reason why most of the pro are using RAW files and not JPEG. People would say "Get the white balance right and you don't have to worry about PP-ing later" Well TBH, most of the pro still PP even though the color is just perfect because that "lil bit tweaking" can be give abit "omph" to the image.

Ask anyone who have a real certificate and have been on alot of job can say that RAW files are important laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Mar 21 2011, 04:57 PM)
agito ... u can dwld the view nx2 from nikon site
http://nikonimglib.com/nvnx/index_en_int.html#os-windows
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thanks smile.gif

one more things to ask . if take camera to service/ repair...need take warranty card / shop recipt or not? for my case it is >4 years camera.... hmm.gif
oh wait i dun even have that 2 things laugh.gif but then they allow me to repair or not ?
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QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Mar 21 2011, 04:55 PM)
so how do i get back the image which i saw on screen when i shoot it? tongue.gif
how to disable the auto adjust feature in LR? ... sometimes the pic on the camera just needs a little tweaking.

sorry, just started trying to shoot RAW .. hehe. used to shoot jpg all these while.
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I think you can set it in the settings, I never bother to disable it though.

When you shoot in raw and view in camera, what you see is the preview with settings applied, like what you would see when you shoot in jpeg. If you camera have in-camera raw processing, you can process it with different settings, even adjust the exposure, wb, etc. to ouput to the jpg output you desired.

I think you can change the default preeet for the raw file as well, so it will always use the preset when you import it.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:00 PM)
thanks smile.gif

one more things to ask . if take camera to service/ repair...need take warranty card / shop recipt or not? for my case it is >4 years camera.... hmm.gif
oh wait i dun even have that 2 things laugh.gif but  then they allow me to repair or not ?
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Keyword= $$$$
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:00 PM)
thanks smile.gif

one more things to ask . if take camera to service/ repair...need take warranty card / shop recipt or not? for my case it is >4 years camera.... hmm.gif
oh wait i dun even have that 2 things laugh.gif but  then they allow me to repair or not ?
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Most important, $$$ tongue.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Mar 21 2011, 04:58 PM)
It doesn't matter what picture control you shoot, because when you import to LR you basically define what settings you want.
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so the LR is so advance until few clicks to do the PP? laugh.gif
i thought need smudge this, brush that, patch there like that biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ Mar 21 2011, 03:29 PM)
Buahaha, i feel good now. Within this month i successfully converted 3 ppl to jumpship from canon. biggrin.gif
Should give you the Darth Vader title. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:03 PM)
Had to re-adjust all colour... now my target skill is shoot until no need PP  laugh.gif
WB looks good.

QUOTE(Terbulance @ Mar 21 2011, 04:35 PM)
The best is shoot raw so you can change the white balance, picture control and other things later in your com. I use ViewNX 2 to do so. Just that raw files need big space sweat.gif
Big space? 1TB and 2TB drives are cheap nowadays.

QUOTE(mmohdnor @ Mar 21 2011, 04:46 PM)
correcting the color and white balance again is very tricky ... sad.gif
*i shoot products too. and corecting the the colors/whitebalance is important to me. i want them to look natural and the color matches the real item as much as possible.  blush.gif
I take it you shoot under the same lighting condition for your products? If that's the case, whatever you tweak and change on the WB can be saved and re-used again to apply corrected WB on the other files if you're shooting RAW.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:51 PM)
Lightroom have preset settings for RAW files, so it will adjust the brightness, contrast, etc when you import the RAW files and loaded the presets.

There is also Lens correction which you can apply.
Strange thing is he says his WB changes. As far as I know, the WB does not change unless you tell LR to change the WB.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 04:56 PM)
so you are saying you are encourage to shoot in normal and PP the raw file to vivid?
Vivid is usually not good for skin tones. But of course if you use LR to PP, it'll ignore the in-camera settings and your NEF files will look normal without any settings applied.


QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Mar 21 2011, 05:00 PM)
Let just say this, there is a reason why most of the pro are using RAW files and not JPEG. People would say "Get the white balance right and you don't have to worry about PP-ing later" Well TBH, most of the pro still PP even though the color is just perfect because that "lil bit tweaking" can be give abit "omph" to the image.

Ask anyone who have a real certificate and have been on alot of job can say that RAW files are important laugh.gif
Getting WB right in the camera is important not just because you need less PPing. It has got to do with noise. Wrong WB will give more noise after WB correction.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:00 PM)
thanks smile.gif

one more things to ask . if take camera to service/ repair...need take warranty card / shop recipt or not? for my case it is >4 years camera.... hmm.gif
oh wait i dun even have that 2 things laugh.gif but  then they allow me to repair or not ?
Sure they do since it's a Nikon camera. So long as you pay of course. No need receipt because the product itself is out of warranty.



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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Mar 21 2011, 05:02 PM)
Keyword= $$$$
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:03 PM)
Most important, $$$  tongue.gif
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okay, wait march salary come first laugh.gif now got 1k only...scare over budget... save until 1.8k~2k for repair first.... nod.gif
oh wait , nikon product usually warrantly how many years? i know mine is over...jsut wan to know haha. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:07 PM)
okay, wait march salary come first laugh.gif now got 1k only...scare over budget... save until 1.8k~2k for repair first.... nod.gif
oh wait  , nikon product usually warrantly how many years? i know mine is over...jsut wan to know haha.  tongue.gif
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1k should be more than enough. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:07 PM)
okay, wait march salary come first laugh.gif now got 1k only...scare over budget... save until 1.8k~2k for repair first.... nod.gif
oh wait  , nikon product usually warrantly how many years? i know mine is over...jsut wan to know haha.  tongue.gif
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Perhaps what you can do is ask for them to access the damage and come back to you with a quote. If acceptable, proceed. If not, just keep the camera.

If your repair is close to 2k, might as well junk your camera and get a new one. Not worth it.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 21 2011, 05:10 PM)
1k should be more than enough. tongue.gif
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better be save tongue.gif
you are actually studying or working? tongue.gif
studying in cyberjaya? laugh.gif
missed that day we climb up the putrajaya bridge and talk ghost stories at top there, sit on the "metal fence"-like stair case on top with strong winds...
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:12 PM)
better be save  tongue.gif
you are actually studying or working? tongue.gif
studying in cyberjaya?  laugh.gif
missed that day we climb up the putrajaya bridge and talk ghost stories at top there, sit on the "metal fence"-like stair case on top with strong winds...
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we?? I think that must be a wrong person.
I am currently studying and working.
or you can follow the advice of jchue
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 21 2011, 05:05 PM)
Strange thing is he says his WB changes. As far as I know, the WB does not change unless you tell LR to change the WB.
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Not sure how he define the WB changed, unless he specifically compare the WB settings, if by looking at the picture alone in camera, then there can be many factors, such as the monitor, then the contrast applied on the picture when loaded in LR with preets, etc.

To know the actual WB changed or not, will need to check the data of the image.

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