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post Jul 26 2011, 12:26 PM

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how about if compare between UCSI and LUCT? which 1 is better? and how about their lecturer quality?
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QUOTE(lcyeap90 @ Jul 26 2011, 12:26 PM)
how about if compare between UCSI and LUCT? which 1 is better? and how about their lecturer quality?
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From what I know; the lecturers at LUCT are lenient. (Whether is that good or not is for one to decide.)

I have also paid a visit to LUCT as well, and the facilities looked "pretty good". (From my observation, perhaps the architecture & design facilities could even well be better than the "architecture & design facilities" in Taylor's new lakeside campus; which is unfortunately not that good in the first place IMHO...)

I do not know much about UCSI, although from what I know; it is certainly not a bad university for architecture.

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architecture or accounting ??
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post Jul 27 2011, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(namiaz @ Jul 27 2011, 01:21 PM)
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QUOTE(namiaz @ Jul 27 2011, 09:21 PM)
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plumber ?? whaatt ...
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QUOTE(-mihaha- @ Jul 27 2011, 02:51 PM)
plumber ?? whaatt ...
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what's your question, really?
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 27 2011, 10:53 PM)
what's your question, really?
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no im just asking whether accounting or architecture is good ... smile.gif
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QUOTE(-mihaha- @ Jul 27 2011, 02:56 PM)
no im just asking whether accounting or architecture is good ... smile.gif
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both are equally bad. next question?

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post Jul 28 2011, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Jul 26 2011, 02:55 PM)
From what I know; the lecturers at LUCT are lenient. (Whether is that good or not is for one to decide.)

I have also paid a visit to LUCT as well, and the facilities looked "pretty good". (From my observation, perhaps the architecture & design facilities could even well be better than the "architecture & design facilities" in Taylor's new lakeside campus; which is unfortunately not that good in the first place IMHO...)

I do not know much about UCSI, although from what I know; it is certainly not a bad university for architecture.

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Being a previous architecture student at the LKW campus, I felt that I needed to mention a few things here. Describing lecturers there as lenient is perhaps not the right idea. There are certainly some design tutors that are determined and inspiring, and from what I have heard, they have been reinstated in the design unit (Curtin program not the B. Arch program). Facilities are adequate, but that is under par if one is to compare this to accredited public universities. Modelmaking materials and lasercutting facility is available around Cyberjaya, but be prepared to ask seniors for such guidance.

However, as the Curtin program and B.Arch program is quite separate, I will not comment upon the new course they have introduced. If you ask for my personal opinion, I will say that Limkokwing do not have enough determined and capable faculty personnels to run the new program.

On the other hand, I reckon Benjamin's outlook upon Taylor's program is quite judgmental, but again I will not recommend Limkokwing over Taylor's.

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QUOTE(yangsquare @ Jul 28 2011, 03:43 PM)
Being a previous architecture student at the LKW campus, I felt that I needed to mention a few things here. Describing lecturers there as lenient is perhaps not the right idea. There are certainly some design tutors that are determined and inspiring, and from what I have heard, they have been reinstated in the design unit (Curtin program not the B. Arch program). Facilities are adequate, but that is under par if one is to compare this to accredited public universities. Modelmaking materials and lasercutting facility is available around Cyberjaya, but be prepared to ask seniors for such guidance.

However, as the Curtin program and B.Arch program is quite separate, I will not comment upon the new course they have introduced. If you ask for my personal opinion, I will say that Limkokwing do not have determined and capable faculty personnels to run the new program.

On the other hand, I reckon Benjamin's outlook upon Taylor's program is quite judgmental, but again I will not recommend Limkokwing over Taylor's.
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If one would to being into consideration about how much more Taylors is charging students comparing to LUCT, then whatever small deficiencies in-terms of management-qualities at LUCT; is far overshadowed IMO.

Secondly, facilities wise, it is exactly the same thing over here at Taylors SABD; there is no laser-cutting machines nor model-making tools provided at all; we are all required to get our own medias, tools, & equipments for the job.

Finally, for a lecturer who is lenient; it does not mean that the lecturer does not have the standard; in fact, a particular lenient lecturer could be very informative for your information, generous with knowledge/in imparting knowledge, responsible, dedicated, and also receptive to the student's needs/desires. (Really, very different from certain lecturers which I have came across before...)

For prospective students; if you should decide not to choose LUCT; then by all means choose UCSI.

(By the looks of it, Taylors is already reaching its staff - student population limit; the place is just plain overcrowded, and the studios are just busting during lectures without enough seats & even a space for standing; the remaining crowds just had to stand outside the studio with the doors wide open...)

Nevertheless, one is always completely free to make up his/her own mind. (It is still your choice.)

Regards.
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i'm making my way up into CAAEM as a junior member. thanks to this thread, a lot of students have apparently joined an architectural school and somehow put word to the school about it. and interestingly, one of the CAAEM member is a frequent lowyet member lol.

once i'm officially in, i'll be in a better position to review all the schools and share a more accurate view on them. of course, there will be a lot more things that i cant reveal, because my word will carry more weight, and i have to be more responsible.

thanks a lot for those who've helped keep this thread alive!
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may i know,in malaysia,what is the basic pay of part 1 and part 2 holder?
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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ Jul 28 2011, 11:48 AM)
may i know,in malaysia,what is the basic pay of part 1 and part 2 holder?
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why?

part 1 will start at about RM1500-RM2000
part 2 will start at about RM2200-RM2700

assuming u have 0 experience.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 27 2011, 11:28 PM)
both are equally bad. next question?
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really ..? aiyoo...i was interested in accounting but since you said its bad ..have to think twice about it ...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 28 2011, 07:36 PM)
i'm making my way up into CAAEM as a junior member. thanks to this thread, a lot of students have apparently joined an architectural school and somehow put word to the school about it. and interestingly, one of the CAAEM member is a frequent lowyet member lol.

once i'm officially in, i'll be in a better position to review all the schools and share a more accurate view on them. of course, there will be a lot more things that i cant reveal, because my word will carry more weight, and i have to be more responsible.

thanks a lot for those who've helped keep this thread alive!
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Basically Taylors SABD have collected the "best student's works" of each Part 1 degree semester/year for the CAAEM visit.

There are also currently progress in acquiring "proper pin up boards", new drafting tables, and new chairs for the architecture studios. (Have been happening in the past few weeks.)


But, to be honest, the facilities of the other programs at this new Taylors Lakeside Campus is seriously not a joke at all (especially when comparing to our architecture facilities);

The design studios for the "art school" were all already having new drafting tables & chairs since the beginning of this new campus. (I was telling myself that our architecture studios should also be as new & clean as theirs...)

In addition, the studios of the new art school also provides the equipment, materials, and even the medias (stationary & drawing mediums) for the students to use, and also wash basins/sinks & other domestic amenities for the cleaning/washing up after the works. (Our architecture studios certainly had none of those at all.)

These art students also get to use the brand new & powerful Apple i-Macs in the new labs. (Wheres, we architecture students get to use the ancient systems & platforms...)


Our architecture facilities are also really nothing at all like the engineering facilities right down below our feets... These engineering students are literally having all of the equipments, tools, machinery, instruments, electronics, laboratories, & computers for whatever that they will ever need to perform/experiment/execute concerning their projects... (Our architecture side do not even have a single laser cutting machine unit... sweat.gif )

This is why I am actually in serious envy of the engineering & also the art students; who are all having such good facilities at their service... (They will never ever have the need to waste extra money on services outside to get a job/task performed; since everything that they will ever need for their projects are already in their laboratories, studios, & workshops, which they are all free to use at will... The materials could also be provided for as well...)

The school of hospitality & tourism also get to enjoy truly world class facilities such as those five-star hotel dining areas, as well as the fully serviced kitchens; which literally takes up an entire level... (I went exploring their facilities and ended up getting lost in their kitchen/factory lol...)

I don't think I should go on to the school of medicine, pharmacy, & mass-communication to talk about how good their facilities are as well; lol.

Moreover, our architecture fees are also the most expensive of all too... sweat.gif

(We Architects design such good building for you all; we brought into consideration every single aspects (social, functionality, program, & all...); but yet we are working in such (said by some: Deplorable) conditions; but yet we managed to churn out such good & thoughtful designs for the society out there; that will benefit them for life...)

Regards.

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 28 2011, 07:36 PM)
i'm making my way up into CAAEM as a junior member. thanks to this thread, a lot of students have apparently joined an architectural school and somehow put word to the school about it. and interestingly, one of the CAAEM member is a frequent lowyet member lol.

once i'm officially in, i'll be in a better position to review all the schools and share a more accurate view on them. of course, there will be a lot more things that i cant reveal, because my word will carry more weight, and i have to be more responsible.

thanks a lot for those who've helped keep this thread alive!
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Congratzz to u..
Thanks for all the info. Appreciate
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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Jul 28 2011, 05:57 PM)
Basically Taylors SABD have collected the "best student's works" of each Part 1 degree semester/year for the CAAEM visit.

There are also currently progress in acquiring "proper pin up boards", new drafting tables, and new chairs for the architecture studios. (Have been happening in the past few weeks.)
But, to be honest, the facilities of the other programs at this new Taylors Lakeside Campus is seriously not a joke at all (especially when comparing to our architecture facilities);

The design studios for the "art school" were all already having new drafting tables & chairs since the beginning of this new campus. (I was telling myself that our architecture studios should also be as new & clean as theirs...)

In addition, the studios of the new art school also provides the equipment, materials, and even the medias (stationary & drawing mediums) for the students to use, and also wash basins/sinks & other domestic amenities for the cleaning/washing up after the works. (Our architecture studios certainly had none of those at all.)

These art students also get to use the brand new & powerful Apple i-Macs in the new labs. (Wheres, we architecture students get to use the ancient systems & platforms...)
Our architecture facilities are also really nothing at all like the engineering facilities right down below our feets... These engineering students are literally having all of the equipments, tools, machinery, instruments, electronics, laboratories, & computers for whatever that they will ever need to perform/experiment/execute concerning their projects... (Our architecture side do not even have a single laser cutting machine unit... sweat.gif )

This is why I am actually in serious envy of the engineering & also the art students; who are all having such good facilities at their service... (They will never ever have the need to waste extra money on services outside to get a job/task performed; since everything that they will ever need for their projects are already in their laboratories, studios, & workshops, which they are all free to use at will... The materials could also be provided for as well...)

The school of hospitality & tourism also get to enjoy truly world class facilities such as those five-star hotel dining areas, as well as the fully serviced kitchens; which literally takes up an entire level... (I went exploring their facilities and ended up getting lost in their kitchen/factory lol...)

I don't think I should go on to the school of medicine, pharmacy, & mass-communication to talk about how good their facilities are as well; lol.

Moreover, our architecture fees are also the most expensive of all too... sweat.gif

(We Architects design such good building for you all; we brought into consideration every single aspects (social, functionality, program, & all...); but yet we are working in such (said by some: Deplorable) conditions; but yet we managed to churn out such good & thoughtful designs for the society out there; that will benefit them for life...)

Regards.
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having state of the art facilities isnt really a gauge in terms of performance. but not having them is surely a bad sign. we in UTM for example have thrown away drafting tables and replaced them with computer tables. all draftmanship have been reduced to A3 sized drawings, where later they can scan and compose properly on a computer. so if drafting tables are a measure of good architecture school, we're out already wink.gif.

but here's the thing about some IPTS. i met a few of the CAAEM committee members and chit-chat a bit about the accreditation process. some IPTS installed new facilities just a few months before the accreditation. when they visited the school, it all looks well. but when acquired with the students, they told them that it was only installed weeks earlier and even they have had no chance of using it yet.

to make matters worse, the computing facilities werent exclusive to the architecture students, but had to be shared, like a classroom, whereas the committee demanded a dedicated studio with computing facilities. small, small details like this reveal exactly what's lacking in what they provide.

accreditation is not about what u have now. it's about what u have been using for the past few years prior to the accreditation. if CAAEM requires dedicated studios for the students, then it must be provided at least 3 years before the visit, not a few weeks before! there will be records of usage, maintenance and all. and u cant fake these. the CAAEM are experienced and diversified. they can detect forgery a mile away...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jul 28 2011, 07:57 PM)
why?

part 1 will start at about RM1500-RM2000
part 2 will start at about RM2200-RM2700

assuming u have 0 experience.
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okeh..thanks..im continuing my part 2 then... 1year experience in part 1 so far... tongue.gif

Gaji not enuf la

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Did a search, but couldn't find what I was looking for. Does anyone know where is a good place around Puchong/PJ/KL to get cheap material to build a model?

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