I notice. but I've moved to Dymatize now.

hahahahahahahaha. whey will be whey. different brands may differ in flavour (taste). but at the end of the day, it is just a supplement

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Added on October 6, 2012, 3:50 amp/s: I do take supplements. I even went a month without it. so, I saw only subtle difference between supplementing with protein and without supplementation. It is very very psychological. At least to me, it was

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Oct 6 2012, 03:50 AM

pictures available?

replacement for? ON, you mean?

what flavour? I tried out ON's 100% Gold Standard Casein Creamy Vanilla. it taste exactly like NitroTech's Vanilla Milkshake hahaha

I'm curious how Choc. Peanut Butter taste like

my 2 cents worth? this is just a rough guess okay? haha. I am not saying my opinion is a fact and it is the truth.
it's old stock. poorly kept. poorly handled. scratches here and (on plastic tub goods) there.

-I received my goods from Bodybuilding.com. some of them like kena hentam. probably due to handling. from here to there. here to there. so many hands held it. however, I've never received goods in a state where the sticker looking in such a poor condition though.
the sticker? oh well, it's either the heat or liquid that caused it. could have gotten wet sometime somewhere. I don't know. like I said. I've never encountered such problem.
but yeah, these kind of things do occur once in a blue moon. even local suppliers like fitnutritions encounter problems like dented tubs (big enough to be visible)
here's to give you an idea on what I'm talking about
http://www.fitnutritions.com/index.php?mai...a655bed926ceab7

I did say it. paragraph 1, line 2. I mentioned poorly kept hehehehe.

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Added on October 10, 2012, 7:45 amin short bro, NO WORRIES

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Oct 10 2012, 07:45 AM

mostly occurring to ON's Casein, huh?

wow! very fast service by Eji!
I paid at 11:36am yesterday (Oct 9th, 2012) and I received my good today at 11a.m.
that is like what?!?! less than 24 hour service !!
Eji is good. when he have ready stock though

furthermore, it's been awhile since I ordered anything from Eji. looks like he's got some nice touche now. hehehehe

EXTREMELY URGENT PARCEL. PLEASE RUSH TO ADDRESSEE. THANK YOU neat stuff we got here, man.

wooohoooo! Dymatize have a new scooper now

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Added on October 10, 2012, 11:16 amI know right. so damnnn neat! good going, Eji!!!
Eji got new box now. Dymatize's got new scooper. awesome!

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Oct 10 2012, 11:16 AM

they say 8 weeks. but to make yourself happy. standby for 10 weeks lah. 10 - 12 weeks would be safe. custom take a pretty while to clear his goods

me too lol. having exams now. by the way, last time he told me 4 weeks minimum. 8 weeks maximum
took Eji 10 weeks
just hope that your batch won't go through the same problem as mine did. hehe

I don't know about that. but, Alex Rogers of protein factory said something.
according to him, best selling brands (no, he did not mention the brand, but we can safely assume) like ON, Dymatize, BSN... all those whey are produced in China
they are then brought into America and packaged there in the USA in a GMP Facility.

cut it short. most cheap whey isolates that we buy (at the price of below RM 220 from local suppliers) are:
whey made in China, product packaged in USA.

just to give you a rough idea, it's like an iPhone. "Designed in California, USA. Assembled in China"

more expensive whey isolates are not produced in China.
they are usually from New Zealand. New Zealand whey isolate come directly from milk. not cheese. New Zealand Whey Isolate are guaranteed hormone-free grass fed whey protein powder. Biological value is higher. amino acid profile is higher. same goes to German Whey

yeah, I mentioned New Zealand and Germany. but recently I discovered something from Aussie
http://professionalwhey.com.au/
but, you can just get some quality proteins from Protein Factory. they are manufactured in the USA, but they strictly import their Whey. seems legit.
http://proteinfactory.com/shop/home.php

I think I have indirectly explained on why Horleys are overpriced. it is due to that New Zealand Whey in there

at the end of the day, we get exactly for what we paid for.

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Added on October 10, 2012, 11:34 pmbro, I just said it is from Alex Rogers of Protein Factory.
you can email him. or you can just follow him on YouTube. he gets a tons lot of bashing there lol. but he seem legit. if not, he wouldn't show up at the Arnold Expo

p/s: take note that he delete his videos now and then. some of my source been deleted. some are there. just browse around

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Oct 10 2012, 11:34 PM

I said it? well, I was only restating Alex Roger's statement. he said "leading brands import their whey from China"
-how many leading brands are there out there?
bro, I said we can safely ASSUME due to the price factor .
Alex Rogers challenged his bash-ers to ask leading brands directly on where do they obtain their whey.
YES, they are manufactured in a GMP facility in USA, but where do you they obtain their whey from? that was Alex's point.

well to be honest, I'm not bothered. I personally use Horleys. I use Dymatize. tried out ON. whey are whey. LOL.
so, I didn't bother to take the effort to approach them anymore BECAUSE , I have been emailing Dymatize for a long long time. no reply. decided to just gulp down their protein hahaha. Cafe Mocha taste brilliant. what more could I ask for?

YOU are concerned, YOU search on your own quest. if you remember this quote "I'm not a fan of spoonfeeding myself "
I'm happy with Horleys and Dymatize. China or New Zealand, my body can't tell a difference

Lawyer, I think I'm taking back my statement on ON. because ON stated "Optimum Nutrition is able to control the integrity of all products through in-house manufacturing."
but then again, it takes no Sherlock Holmes to know that in-house manufacturing is even more costly. like really really costly.
if you have a relative running a manufacturing business, feel free to spend some time and ask them about in-house manufacturing. all businessmen don't prefer in-house manufacturing as it is very costly. Apple Inc. too. they are hugeee. do they in-house manufacturing? no. because it is expensive.

think of it man. how come ON don't state the source of their whey like Protein Factory do?
not to say it is bad. ON is good. taste brilliant. good gains.
just, WHY don't they declare where their whey are from? does it harm their company if they state our whey is strictly from America. hormone-free grass fed!
haha. seek that answer

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Added on October 11, 2012, 12:08 amI mean, if Protein Factory have the means to do it, why leading brand don't/ can't?

This post has been edited by ShinKen: Oct 11 2012, 12:08 AM

less people use = less reviews.
less reviews can lead to a higher rating point if you get my drift. well, if you can get hold of it, then why not?

you must be Vincent from Muscle Mania.
well, what I do is blend oats with whey for breakfast.


oats:
boil 1 cup of water
1/2 cup of rolled oats
once done (cooked), throw in
1/2 cup of raw almonds (blended finely)
then add in a tiny splash of milk to your oats. add in a table spoon of honey. and a few dabs of cinnamon powder

Whey:
lastly, throw everything into the blender. + a scoop and half of whey powder (may vary according to individuals). as for me, I love throwing in my Dymatize Elite Whey Isolate Cafe Mocha flavour
add in 300 ml of fresh milk (pasteurized) into the blender. I like to use Farm Fresh brand. just a personal preference
if I am feeling gay, I'll throw in a large Dole banana in there. those hugeeeee bananas lol. just for a greater consistency adding in the taste.

-you will end up with a thick and rich tasting shake. I take it to classes. or if I have time, I drink it with breakfast. it keeps me full. hehe



p/s: I discovered this recipe after I found myself not being able to chew down all those oats which are too tasteless for my blood. boring too.