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kamion
post Aug 25 2011, 10:39 PM

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Where can I get a tester? I asked the electrician to lay the cables from my rooms upstairs to my living room. Would definitely like to test the installation before signing off.
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post Aug 25 2011, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(lazzy_dogg @ Aug 25 2011, 09:58 PM)
anyone can recommend me where to get STP and UTP cables at good price from a reputable brand (i.e. AMP)...
can anyone tell me how much roughly?
looking at buying in reel/box
Why you want STP? your area got electrostatic problem?

Try Jalan Pasar, but not sure they carry AMP, cause is very expensive. Maybe need back to back order.


Added on August 25, 2011, 11:57 pm
QUOTE(kamion @ Aug 25 2011, 10:39 PM)
Where can I get a tester? I asked the electrician to lay the cables from my rooms upstairs to my living room. Would definitely like to test the installation before signing off.
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The 8 lights tester most electronic shop sell, very cheap only. Try ask the two electronic shop @ ss2, one is same row as McD, and one is behind Guardian.

If you need db noise tester maybe need to go below places.
01) Pasar road,
02) mobicon "Remote" @ old klang road http://www.mobicon.com.my
03) http://malaysia.rs-online.com/web/



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post Aug 26 2011, 02:49 PM

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one thing i realised from doing my own network installation is never ever skimp on the quality of the cables and keystones you use. Once it's inside the wall, it's highly unlikely you'll want to tear it out and redo it. Get it right once and you'll be happy.

UTPs sold on the market have in-wall rated and for normal usage. It's ok to use solid cable for in wall while for patch cables, it's better to use stranded types as it's easier to bend. Stranded are expensive though here.


Added on August 26, 2011, 2:51 pmanyone wants to take over my SIEMON cat6 cable? It's their System6 cable that is in-wall rated. It is thicker than cat5 cables thus your wall conduit has to be bigger.

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post Nov 11 2011, 08:09 PM

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Hi Guys, In midst of renovating house now.
At the stage of house wiring and concealing cable now.
I had this idea and wonder if it works.

1. I plan to locate the BTU and the RG in the middle of my house on the ground floor so wireless signal can spread from the center of ground floor (through coverage).
- Plan to pull the FTB to BTU wire over the ceiling (plaster ceiling) so leave the plaster ceiling uncovered until the wire installed over above the plaster ceiling. After the ceiling leave a "longkang" to the BTU location area which I will conceal myself after instillation. Can ah? Kena charged ah?

2. My friend told me that RG wire to STB, DECT phone and wired PC are all the same CAT 5 type. My TV will be located at the corner edge of the ground floor.
- Plan to prepare 4 pcs CAT 6 concealed wire and plug from the middle of the ground floor where the BTU and RG is located to
1. corner edge of the ground floor where I plan to put the STB near the TV.
2. another corner of the ground floor where I plan to put a wired PC
3. up to 1st floor where I plan to put another wireless router.
4. up to my alarm system.
Can work ah?

All this is to take advantage of my renovation that is currently being done so as to avoid exposed wire lines.

All sifus pleaseeeeee help advice notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Nov 11 2011, 08:24 PM

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I just pulled a CAT5 cable from each room upstairs (3) to my living room wall where I intend to put my TV.

Unifi come in to living room and there will be a router there. Connect the router to all 3 sockets and that's it. smile.gif Plus need to connect from router to the IP TV box anyway by the TV.

I can just add switches in any of the rooms when I need more ethernet connections.

Currently at my parents place, I have the WiFi router in the living room, and my PC is upstairs and at the diagonal end of the semi-D house to the WiFi router and it works fine, so no need to worry so much about putting the WiFi router right in the middle of your place.
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post Jan 11 2012, 11:21 AM

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how much does it cost to hack and reseal the wall only (we provide the cable, the contractor just hack & seal it back)? How much per feet run?
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post Jan 11 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(zeese @ Jan 11 2012, 11:21 AM)
how much does it cost to hack and reseal the wall only (we provide the cable, the contractor just hack & seal it back)?  How much per feet run?
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Don't think they is standard pricing. You need to ask them before start. For my case, he supply conduit and installation. I supply cables for CCTV, Cat5e, and twin flat, face plates, and terminate myself.

Think I pay him good price, I paid 70 per point, it was not his request, but i just pay him this rate as he give me some discount and did not include many extra stuff I add on later stage.
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post Jan 23 2012, 04:44 PM

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Installed CAT 5e cables concealed in the wall. Anyone can tell me where to get someone to install the cover and connectors ah?
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post Jan 23 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jan 23 2012, 04:44 PM)
Installed CAT 5e cables concealed in the wall. Anyone can tell me where to get someone to install the cover and connectors ah?
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DIY lo, is not that hard. And buy a patch panel for the central cable area.
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post Jan 25 2012, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 23 2012, 05:48 PM)
DIY lo, is not that hard. And buy a patch panel for the central cable area.
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Patch panel, I googled and see so many connection lor.. sweat.gif
I only allocate 4 CAT5e concealed connections for my house, how to use all?!? blink.gif
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post Jan 25 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jan 25 2012, 10:36 AM)
Patch panel, I googled and see so many connection lor..  sweat.gif 
I only allocate 4 CAT5e concealed connections for my house, how to use all?!?  blink.gif
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Your CCTV? you did not put LAN cable?

If only 4, just buy two face place with 2 Cat5e jacket per face plate ok already.
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post Jun 6 2012, 11:34 AM

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Hello

I came on this thread while looking to install wired Ethernet network. I am in Johor Baru. Can recommend a contractor to do this. I am not a technical person, not like you guys so really need someone to setup the whole process. I appreciate the help and advice that is given. Thanks.

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post Jun 29 2012, 03:35 PM

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you just need to buy the cables and let your contractor run them for you

as for terminating them at the keystone, you can get diagrams from many sites, it's just pushing the cables into the pins, no crimping required. you can always pull a little extra in case you want to redo the keystones

as for patch cords, can buy off any computer shops, pre-crimped
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:10 AM

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questions...
1. is there any keystone that i can install without using the punch-down tool? It is available overseas but not sure locally
2. What is the normal transfer rate from PC to NAS for gigabit network? Using the el-cheapo WD NAS (2-slots) available widely at Lowyat. Transfer speed seem very slow. My network supposedly gigabit already but not sure how to check/verify.

Sorry...i'm a noob smile.gif
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post Jul 26 2012, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(xsi @ Jul 26 2012, 10:10 AM)
questions...
1. is there any keystone that i can install without using the punch-down tool? It is available overseas but not sure locally
2. What is the normal transfer rate from PC to NAS for gigabit network? Using the el-cheapo WD NAS (2-slots) available widely at Lowyat. Transfer speed seem very slow. My network supposedly gigabit already but not sure how to check/verify.

Sorry...i'm a noob smile.gif
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Use blade/ cutter can be punch down tool. Don't need special tools.

You need to understand bottleneck is not on the LAN, could be your devices and disk transfer rate. Even you get a 7200rpm drive, your average transfer maybe is around 50 to 80MB/sec, if you have more fragment files, difference files system, device design and other smaller files the transfer rate will be varied.


Added on July 26, 2012, 10:31 amA good throughput switch can sustain much higher transfer too. That is the difference between a cheap and high end switch.

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post Jul 26 2012, 10:37 AM

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thanks for the reply. For home use cat5e unshielded keystone shud be sufficient right?

my transfer rate is i thin 24mbps only, if i am not mistaken lah. Need to check. Not sure what's wrong. And yes my switch also cheapest gigabit ones..

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post Jul 26 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(xsi @ Jul 26 2012, 10:37 AM)
thanks for the reply. For home use cat5e unshielded keystone shud be sufficient right?

my transfer rate is i thin 24mbps only, if i am not mistaken lah. Need to check. Not sure what's wrong. And yes my switch also cheapest gigabit ones..
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Check your HD spec, could be your HD transfer rate.

Yes, don't need Amp, but at least a good quality Taiwan cables or reliable brand. I am phobia with China cables after so many experience with it.


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QUOTE(wz3k @ Feb 22 2011, 10:29 PM)
Hi All,

I'm thinking of installing gigabit wired network in my home. This would consist of a switch and cat6 cables running into each room in a 2.5 storey house (5 rooms to be exact). Each room will have an ethernet wall plate each. I understand that this will involve hacking into the wall to lay and hide the cables. If anyone has previous experience either DIY or using contractor for this, hope you can share your experience and how much it cost. If you provide this service, please let know and we can discuss further.

Now I have considered other options like wireless N and homeplugs but I want reliability and speed (I mean some serious speed  brows.gif ). If you know of another way to get reliable connection and speed, do let me know as well..

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Sorry, i dont have the answer for u,

but i would like to ask, what is Gigabit Home Network? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 08:47 AM

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Home networks is the term used for 'networking' your home. Think of a cybercafe, and imagine each PC is one room in your house, all connected together (whether wired or wireless)

This was at one time were a rarity, only for those who had the 'know-how'. It has evolved mainly from Cat5 (100Mbps) to Cat5e (around the same time), and now people are moving towards Cat6 (1 gbps) networks.

Advantages of Cat6? able to have higher (or simultaneously high) data transfer between devices, of course bottleneck is your disk, or whatever medium you write or read from. Also can be used with the new HDMI splitter devices to stream 1080p.
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post Aug 23 2012, 12:33 PM

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Cat 5e can go up to 1Gbps without problem. Cat6 can go up to 10Gbps that is if your cables are properly test.

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