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post Sep 6 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Sep 6 2018, 02:45 PM)
Not sure if this is the right place to ask...but here goes.

I have some old drill holes to seal up for my bathroom wall ceramic tiles. Other than just using silicone, what else can be used/done to make the holes a lot less obvious?
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Replace 1 single tile should be not much problem for DIY smile.gif
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post Sep 7 2018, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Sep 7 2018, 10:57 AM)
It's at the shower screen area bro  sweat.gif
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Your tile what color? White?
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post Sep 7 2018, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Sep 7 2018, 11:30 AM)
More like beige or light brown colour
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You can get colored grout the same color as the tile but probably you cannot buy 1 table spoon smile.gif

The best is to replace the tile like I mentioned before. It is not hard actually



Then buy a small ready-mix tile adhesive like this:
https://www.pyeproducts.com/prodetails.php?...de=ADTI&lang=en


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post Sep 21 2018, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Jean4987 @ Sep 21 2018, 09:29 AM)
Hi everyone. I've recently had problems with my apartment floor. There seems to be air trapped between the cement and tiles - causing it to bulge up and it makes squeaky sounds when I walk on them. The affected area is about 300 square feet and I was wondering if anyone knows of a reasonably priced contractor who is able to fix this? It will need hacking, redoing of the cement and new tiles. My neighbour on the same floor had the same problem but she caught it within the developer's warranty period. Lucky her!
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What happened was the tiles are no longer sticking to the cement floor or got delaminated I believe in your case. Poor job by contractor.

I believe with new tile mortar material, no hacking is necessary. No idea with the price. You can call and ask around. No need to be on location in preliminary filtering of contractor. Ask also how they are going to fix them to judge why cost are different.
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post Oct 17 2018, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Oct 17 2018, 01:23 PM)
Hi guys,

When I replace the faulty hollow tiles, will it affect the neighboring tiles?

THis is for new house defect
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Affecting in what way. New house should be fix by contractor right? So, it's their problem, right? Anyway, I don't see why it can affect adjacent tiles.
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post Oct 17 2018, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Oct 17 2018, 03:37 PM)
Yea, is the contractor fix for me..

My old house, i fixed spoilt tiles it will weaken the neighbouring tiles, and few months later the neighbouring tiles also spoil...
But that is old tiles lah... I don't know these new tiles how it will react...

My hollow tiles the hollow part only like 10% hollow, so i don't know if it worth the trouble to change them..

You guys know whether hollow tiles will spread out or get worse over time?
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It will not affect. The problem is the tile is normally fix using normal cement. When the use hammer to remove the damaged tile, the knocking vibration will weaken or delaminate the neighboring tiles. Nowadays, special mix mortar (cement) for tile placement with adhesive that hold tiles better is more common and cheap. You can just do it yourself easily. Can buy tile mortar in small box like Pye brand from most DIY shop. You can you tube how to replace broken tiles. My bathroom tile just glued on top of other tiles to create an elevation tile high only so that I can prevent water from shower to wet flooring at sink side. It is still stick fine after 10 year already I believe. smile.gif

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post Nov 8 2018, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(princessgalaria @ Nov 8 2018, 09:45 AM)
We bought the kitchen tiles and living/dining hall tiles from them but the tiles were in terrible condition.
The sales person did not counted the tiles properly and we had to at least make 3 trips again.
Almost 20 pcs of the kitchen tiles were broken. Went there and the sales person agreed to replace.
and almost 10pcs of the living hall tiles were broken. Had to go there again but the sales person said they will only replace half.

They also claimed that if the tiles are chipped off on the side that's not their problem. Bad attitude.

There's some defect on the kitchen wall tiles as well, this is supposed to be a good grade tile and not those leftover stocks.

Conclusion, waste of time and don't recommend going there.

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Should have check those tile at the shop. Otherwise they can blame handling problem during transporting.
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post Nov 8 2018, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(princessgalaria @ Nov 8 2018, 10:37 AM)
How to check the tiles at the shop?
You only get to see the samples in the showroom, the rest are all behind their warehouse that they will agree to send later when you buy up to certain amount.
Then when they send the tiles, those workers said that they're not responsible and that's what they got from the warehouse. Then they will tell you to go back to the warehouse and make the claims on your own. We wouldn't know the condition of the tiles until the contractor open box by box. And there's so many tiles, each tiles weigh at least 3-5kg in weight.

I've bought tiles in other shops before but only this Super Ceramic Bukit Puchong is horrible.
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That is terrible service. I thought you collect tiles on your own. The guys handling stuff (heavy stuff especially) just throw the package. sad.gif
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post Nov 8 2018, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(ehwee @ Nov 8 2018, 04:54 PM)
So sorry to hear your bad experience with them. normally they should have issued
a DO, delivery order for your signature to confirm every tiles you received are in
good conditions, don't they?
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Yes. Once delivered, you should sign the DO to acknowledge receipt but before signing, you can check the condition first. This way cannot accuse that the damage was dome by you and they have to replace all the damaged one, not half smile.gif
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post Nov 8 2018, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(princessgalaria @ Nov 8 2018, 05:32 PM)
They do. DO is more of for goods receivable in right quantity than it being in good condition.
I'm not sure if you've carried the tiles that's weighs at least 3-5kg per piece which means per carton is around 25kg. To check through like each and every single carton that weighs that much is not feasible at all.
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No need to be each. Just cut the box all corner and check. The corners usually broken or at least if you see the corner of the box looks like it was heavily hit, then you can confirm by opening the box.
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post Nov 28 2018, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Nov 28 2018, 02:42 PM)
I called this Chinese uncle but he rejected me!!
He asked me if I got his number from friend recommendation.
I said I got it from internet, then he rejected me.

He said people who got his number from internet only wants his quotation and after he give quotation, they complain his price is too high. 
hmm ... dry.gif
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That uncle sudah senang already I guess biggrin.gif
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post Apr 3 2019, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(xenite @ Apr 3 2019, 11:53 AM)
Hi Guys,

Anyone got any tilling contractors to recommend at Rawang area.
I'm having some issue with my tiles in my room, they are expanding upward and almost look like volcano going to erupt.
Please pm me the details

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If involves several tiles only, just fix it yourself.

Buy tiles and use epoxy to glue them back smile.gif
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post Apr 9 2019, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ Apr 9 2019, 04:39 PM)
He is doing my renovation now, only for floor i said no need to do yet after seing this breakdown.

I also breakdown.
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So, 2' x 2' is already 4 sqft

So, I guess 17,000/4 = 4250 only smile.gif
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post May 15 2019, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(RVN10 @ May 14 2019, 06:22 PM)

Guys i am in dilemma between using tile trim/edging or without for my wet kitchen (doing ceiling height tiling) area. Need quick advise on this. TQ
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Using trim edging looks more nice. No sharp edge in case you trip and bang your head on edge corner biggrin.gif

Anyway, why is dilemma? I think it should not cost significantly more since it is just plastic hmm.gif

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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jun 17 2019, 03:28 PM)
seriously? i tot is expensive. And i damn regret din choose laminate floor...  cry.gif
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Laminated floor anytime can do what. smile.gif
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post Jun 23 2019, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(chayjeong @ Jun 23 2019, 02:10 PM)
Since tiles are generally big and heavy in size, what's the estimate shipping cost for house that is 20' X 70'? I was thinking importing Tiles from China, but I am afraid the sea freight cost will be very high.
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China tile whilst cheap, many contractors said has poor quality. THe problem is most significant big tiles, The coplanarity is poor. They found that big tiles tend to bend and youj know what will happen to your floor.
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QUOTE(ryanwong92 @ Aug 16 2019, 10:09 AM)
Dear all,

Do you know where I can find this kind of kitchen floor tiles, 1ft X 1 ft? Matt finish.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.ama...op&resize=980:*
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Just go to tile manufacturer website and look. You can then find the retailers.
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QUOTE(Kipkip @ Aug 16 2019, 03:41 PM)
Hi Guys,
My floor tiles buckled/popped up recent with some loud cracking sound. So I went around looking for contractors and tiles distributors. The contractors will often tell me that the main cause are the tiles, 60x60 and above , that  are very prone to this problem. Whereas the tiles distributors tell me that the contractors are the main culprit as they do not follow the proper procedure. What is your take guys?
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No knowledge on material
Not follow procedure.
Use wrong material.

Most tiles need to soak in water adequately so that it can adhere to normal cement properly. Otherwise this happened. Some contractor just dipped momentarily or not at all to save time.

Nowadays, there are mortar specifically for tiling. This can eliminate the need of soaking but will secure the tile properly. However, most likely that the contractor will not use because either they don't know or just to reduce cost.

I asked if they can just put tiles on top of other tiles without hacking. They said cannot. It will popped up later, but my toilet I just put a thin layer of epoxy meant for tilling and it has been 10 years without problem.
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QUOTE(Kipkip @ Aug 16 2019, 04:23 PM)
Probably I should buy this specific mortar and ensure that my contractor uses it.
Would you be able to recommend the brand/type of this mortar?

Thanks
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This is good read:
https://gharpedia.com/reasons-tiles-get-buckled-popped-tent/

I'm no contractor laugh.gif but there are many brand out there. I just google and these two have good distribution:

https://mys.sika.com/en/distributor-retail/...kaceram-88.html

https://www.mys.weber/en/tile-adhesive/tile-fixing
https://www.mys.weber/en/find-distributor

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 08:35 PM)
Normally how long to soak the tiles in the water?? To make them long lasting / pop up?

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It depends on tile itself. Here is a quote:

Soaking ceramic building materials in water is a common practice. This is a necessity when laying tile that is very soft, like Saltillo tile, or low-fired, unglazed terracotta. When a tile (or a brick for that matter) is too porous, it will suck the water out of the mortar without allowing it to set properly, leaving weak bonds between mortar and tile.

Use this simple test:

Put a quarter on the back side of the tile
With a crayon or grease pencil, draw a circle around the quarter.
Remove the quarter and fill the circle with water.

If the water gets soaked up in less than three minutes, I would soak the tile. At least place them face down and hose them to allow them to absorb some water.

Trust me, I’m a ceramic engineer, and perform tests on ceramics (brick specifically) for a living.


Another said:
Soak the tiles in clean water at least 30 minutes before fixing.
Remove the tiles from the water and allow them to drain to ensure that there is no film of water on the tile surface.


Some even mentioned 4 hours. Most important is you want the cement set by drying naturally. Even if you see the highway concrete, theyh cover with wet gunny cloth not to let it dry too fast from sun heat. It will produce stronger concrete.

My contractor soaked in water just 15 min and after 10 years still good. So, depends on experience on how long. They normally familiar with materials.

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