I'm expecting my first baby in May

I'm planning to fully breastfeed and follow proper 'pantang' (at least try )

Just want to ask opinions about post-natal sets, read that Amway Tropical Herbs supposed to be good, natural and complete.

Anybody have any opinions or experience with post-natal sets? Any recommendations? Thanx!

urrm...i didn't take any herbs...mine was all fresh cooked meals..and DOM. As for the pantang part..didn't strictly follow..i bathed and all.

Kudos on your decision to breastfeed!

As for breastfeeding, I'd advised you to be prepared for a rough road. Go for classes if possible and read up. From my experience, to fully succeed, besides knowledge, you need to have determination.

I'm still breastfeeding my son for about 1.5yrs..and the first 4 months were the toughest. There's a breastfeeding forum here..go read it and prepare on the hurdles that you may encounter (especially low milk supply). Alternatively, join the FB group - The Breastfeeding Advocates Network.

Enjoy your last few months of holiday

Phythia, how do u BF while taking DOM? isnt it bad due to the alcohol contents?

only took DOM right after i bf, before i slept...and midnite feeds were EBM - hubby took the midnite shift . Only took 1 tablespoon each night.

Hello...

I just become a father in three months time.... Sure a bit fresh with this kind of stuff...

I am not sure if you are cina or Malay, but we Malay got our own sets of post-natal sets...

My wife are using Set Ubat Bersalin Afiat... that we bought at a nearby shop... It got everthing in there,... minyak.. bedak.. and also barut...

Also got my frens are using Set Bersalin Sendayu Tinggi....

Those two sets works wonders.... If you using the sets + follow all pantang, you can maintain your body just like you're still 'anak dara'.

My wife are using the Set Ubat Bersalin Afiat, when she got back to work... all frens are surprised she can maintain her body just like before married...

what is barut?
my malay urut lady told me some words last time i didnt understand.

if u r chinese, u can buy chinese herbs from chinese medical shop.
boil with hot water then mix till warm and bathe.

my wife swears by avoiding chicken for the 1st few weeks...

i will be staying with my MIL after giving birth. she's a great cook so hopefully i will be well taken care of!
i gained a substantial amount of weight (and still gaining!) so i'm hoping for some recommendations of post-natal supplements that can help me shed the weight and get back that 'anak dara' feeling also something that promotes overall wellness...

As for BF-ing, i'm trying to stay positive. my main aim is to save money from buying all that formula, so hopefully i will stick to the plan, and hopefully my body and the baby will too!

i am malay
and yes, i am aware of the post natal sets...
i have heard of afiat, and sendayu tinggi, but i would prefer herbal health supplements rather than jamu...
badan saya mmg jenis 'panas', takut mkn jamu makin panas nnt
plus sendayu tinggi is too expensive for me

This post has been edited by shikuzika: Feb 22 2011, 09:42 PM

barut is girdle...

sometimes also called bengkung...

If you breastfeed, you may lose weight..of coz not straightaway.

I was 68kg before preggie, about 80kg during preggie and after 1.5yrs of bf..i'm about 60kg . These includes those sleepless nights too .

Oh wow.
I hope I'm just as lucky

Agreed!!! Full Breastfeed really can shed off weight. No matter how much u ate, u will not easy to gain weight. But it's a really suffer time for the 1st few mths. not enough sleep and no time to rest too.. As long as seeing our bb is healthy, how much tired is still worth it.. (i'm breastfeed for 18mths)

Just to remember, during confinement drink lots fluid b'cos breasfeeding mom will required more water to produce our breast milk, less carbo food and oily food if u wish to slim down fast.

all new parents will suffer lack of sleep, whether BF or not

Ya, true. but BF will more suffer than bottle feeding.. u might need to wake up every 2 or 3 hours while bottle feeding.. but BF may need to wake up every hour..

i did BF and FM both, depending on my situation.
And i can assure u no way is easier than the other.
Especially if the baby is not used to sleeping at night time yet.

I think it's safe to say that ..once you got kids..there goes your sleep

right now i never get to sleep >7am... 8am is my lucky day only..

although my baby is 1 yo, sometimes if he is cranky he will wake up at night.. give milk only then he will sleep.. and sometimes for 5 days in a row he will sleep throughout the night... funny la

how abt your son eh?

He's an early riser...he wakes up at 7am..if can go pass 8..must go buy lottery. My son doesn't sleep thru the night unless he's extremely tired which is very rare. He sleeps at about 830 or 9pm and would wake up at about 11 plus for his milk and another 2 or 3 times for his dreamfeed. Thank god i co-sleep..and all he has to do is climb over me..pull my t-shirt up.

my son wake up abt 630, same time i wake up to go to work la, but sadly, weekend oso his body tune to 630 alarm!

last saturday night he woke up a few times crying, i let the father soothe him, and after that he slept in the hall with his father, till 930am!! i got up abt 840am,and still didnt feel like leaving my bed.. ahh blisss!

a friend who's also a mother told me that at night don't give milk, just give warm water. soon the baby will learn not to cry for milk in d middle of the night. Anybody heard this or something similar to this..?


This post has been edited by shikuzika: Feb 23 2011, 06:05 PM

Hmm... I personally won't take that route so that the baby won't wake up in the middle of the night for feeds. I believe that in their beginning years, their demands should be met.

Hi all. The Amway post natal items are good as my wife has used it. It also comes with a girdle so it helps in the weight trimming.

Part of your regimen before birth is to also use creams like shea butter or products that help with your stretch marks. My wife uses Neways wrinkle guard.

BF is good all through and I have heard of ladies BFing kids up to age 6.

You can also use a breast pump to extract and keep them in the fridge so that it last longer.

Note for first time mothers who've had challenges in expressing milk - the breast becomes swollen and painful. To alleviate the pain temporarily, use white cabbage (the hard-ish one that has a leaf wide enough to cup the breast, not the other types) that has been cleaned and refrigerated. It helps to reduce the swelling but you will have to make every effort to express the milk, either by pump or your baby.

I know the cabbage solution sounds weird, but hey, it worked for us!

All the best in parenthood!

ive heard of this.. u r supposed to do it only after baby is >6months and started taking solids so u know that baby isnt deprived of nutrition and food... and it worked for some people but i find it so cruel, i rather wake up and feed my baby

This post has been edited by qarezma: Feb 25 2011, 02:35 PM

yes, it does sound cruel, and i do hope i won't be too busy or too tired to take this route once maternity leave is over and i'm back to work...

Hi pubmut,

can you elaborate further on the post natal set since i am really interested in it...
does it help with producing milk, was there any side effects, etc?

For the first 6 months, do not consume any jamu or whatsoever akar things...

Its for the fresh breastfeeding...

But, one had claimed their jamu is not affected for the breastfeeding.. Its Nonaroguy..

Its up to you ...

In terms of producing milk, these are the pointers for first-timer:

1) Upon delivering, try to latch baby on as soon as you can. However, pls bear in mind that milk usually comes in about 4 - 7 days upon delivering. It may also vary to certain women.
2) Especially for the first 1-2 months, try only direct bf as milk has yet to establish. From my experience, I pumped during the 1st month and exactly 1 month - i had no milk.
3) A friend told me to drink fennel seeds tea or fenugreek seeds tea. Just boil the seeds and drink it religiously twice a day. I tried this when i had no milk (no 2) and it worked.
4) demand = supply..hence the more demand, it will signal your body to produce more milk.
5) Forget the confinement rule that one shouldn't drink water - once when you breastfeed..you need to drink loads of liquid! you'll automatically feel thirstier than normal.

As for the jamu part.. i have no idea as I don't take jamu. However, please bear in mind that whatever you eat or drink ..it may affect your milk. so be very careful.

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Added on February 26, 2011, 11:47 amanother thing..to make bf successful, try not to give any bottle/nipple or pacifier as some babies may get nipple confusion and then they may not be able to suckle from your breast efficiently.



This post has been edited by phythia79: Feb 26 2011, 11:47 AM

yeah, nona roguy is another brand i have in mind...

so what does the baby feed for the time being? is it ok to give them formula and then start breastfeeding? i hope i can breastfeed straighaway

For the first milk that comes is colustrum. It is advisable to just breastfeed your child. Please keep in mind that their stomach is a size of a pea when born..hence, not much milk is needed but they need more feedings instead..hence every hour or two.

I think it's best if you see a lactation consultant to get ready. You can contact Gina Yong...she has classes for moms preparing to breastfeed..alternatively, join the breastfeeding network advocates on FB..she's one of the moderators and you can post your questions there.

do u mean that pumping during the 1st month caused u hv no milk?

Apparently so...it was explained that my milk hasn't established yet and baby tends to suckle even better which in turns signals the body to produce more.

I think..this may only apply to those whose production is just adequate - not overflowing like some I know.

Shikuzika

I'm afraid the Amway post natal set is just to assist new mom's to get back to their slim selves after birth. There are no ill effects from using this set as it is all herbal.

It doesn't assist in the production of milk for the mom.

hey, if jamu is not an option, you can try wear something to support your body to gain back the size that you wanted.
i only found the brochure for post delivery garment 3 months after giving birth (i had c-section in last december due to complication of natural birth) and i just got to look at the brochure for supporting our body after delivery and i see the testimonials are convincing. The price is not expensive as the one you get it from other branded lingerie.
if you are having natural birth, you can wear it 3 days later or 4 days later after csection, the garment comes with side zip for easier wearing and comfort.

since mine is already 3 months, i still cant fit into my old pants and some of the clothes. So i decided to get one yesterday and i am wearing another type which is without the side zip for better compression of the body.

if you are interested, i can share with you the website.

Just to share...don't get into those celebrity hypes that they are back into their size in just a month or two after they deliver. Remember it took about 9 months for your body to expand and stretch and thus, you can't expect your body to go back to it's original (not really original) in 3-6 months.

My advise is slow and steady..proper dieting and exercising is very helpful though i didn't have much time to exercise. I lost all those weight due to sleepless nights and breastfeedign..and it took me about a year + to get back to pre-pregnancy weight.

If you are one of the lucky ones that can lose weight fast...I would definitely envy you.

phythia, i really wonder how those celebs make it to the red carpet in perfect shape, just 1 month after delivery... any idea? once i read heard they go for some type of tummy tuck right after delivery

I wonder too...and I'm not surprised if they do all these tummy tucks. Furthermore, they have the money to employ personal trainers who would train them 24/7..ekekeke...but i still think it's too strenuous to our body...

i say... breastfeed~!! no need to waste money for slimming course (hint hint like xiao s n zhao wei)

Thanx for all the feedback

but i'm not really looking to lose weight fast or anything like that... I heard that it's good to take these post natal sets as it helps heal the body and so on... but slimming down the body is an added plus, i guess

If there's no real advantage to taking the supplements then I might just skip them. They're not cheap to begin with

In that case...fresh healthy food is the way to go.

...I'm a bit late with my reply here, but better late than never. My next-door neighbour gave this advice to my wife when my youngest was about 3 months old (he's 9 now) and I promptly told my wife, to forget that and keep giving the baby 100% milk. Health practitioners stress that babies under 6 months old should -Not- be given water to drink, reason being it interferes with the body's ability to absorb nutrients from their milk, and also makes them feel full on water, thus depriving him of vital nutrients. So please, no water for the first 6 months. Hopefully your baby will settle into a more regular pattern as he/she grows older but being a malay/muslim, you should know that the one of the reason mothers are held in such high regards by God is for the sacrifices they make for their children , so what's a few months sleepless nights eh? (a father of an exclusively bf baby talking here, so I might not be the best choice to talk )

...anyways, back to the topic, my wife uses the mustika ratu set exclusively for three of our four children, for the only reason that it was the one recommended to her by the mak bidan. It's a jamu preparation, but works dang good if the before-after comparison of my wife is to be used. Everyone compliments on her figure after four children, so it must be doing something right, right? Cheap too, where you can get a set from mydin for just RM30++ iirc. Heh, the funny thing is, for my youngest, my wife couldn't go balik kampung for berpantang right after delivery (for reasons I forget), so the first two weeks we used this locl mak bidan. She asked why were we using this old fashioned set (ref to mustika ratu) when others whom she had treated were using all these new fangled sets, and continued dissing the set. Ironically, my wife told me how not good this mak bidan was compared to her usual choice, from the massage (so weak, tak rasa) to the tungku (?) method not right. Needless to say, after arriving safely in the hands of her usual mak bidan at kampung, the mak bidan could tell my wife was not treated properly. Cut this already long story short, the modern local mak bidan, which charged RM200 for the two weeks failed big time according to my wife, while the traditional mak bidan, who came evreyday and did the whole gamut (mandi herba, tungku, urut etc) for the next uh 4 weeks charged the same amount (of course we paid extra).

ummm... moral of the story? it's not just the product, it's the mak bidan which is the key factor (or so I surmise).

... oh and Congratulations to TS on the impending arrival of bundle of joy!

Hi..I'm currently using the Sendayu Tinggi full post natal set.. So far so good...glowing face..lots of milk..my advice if u plan to use Sendayu Tinggi..dun buy the full set..juz buy all the 6 bottles capsules for the 60 days confinement program and buy any jadam + pilis separately at local jamu store...I'm exclusive breastfeeding so I don't really pantang on food but managed to lose 15kg so far...

Any one heard about Nona Roguy or Puteri Rembulan Post Natal Set?
It was so xpensive, about RM400.
Can anyone recommend me the cheapest brand with a good effect.
Would it effect my milk production and baby enlargement?
Where to buy these jamu?

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Added on November 19, 2012, 11:16 amHi , is there any one who tried Amway or Tanamera postnatal set before ? Which one is the best ? Thks

This post has been edited by fred131: Nov 19 2012, 11:16 AM

Dear all, I have opened tropical herbs post natal care for sale, as shown below, RM 150 include shopping. PM me if interested. Thank you very much.
Herbal Douche 10 packs
Herbal Bath 18 packs
Calming Herbal Blend 14 packs
Warming Herbal Blend 14 packs
Forming Herbal Blend 19 packs
Herbal Massage Oil (unused)

anyone has latest review on the product?