Actually, Jesus severed his ties with Mary when he was at his final moment on the cross, Jesus address Mary as woman and handed her to John his disciple whom he loved to take care of Mary.

Anyways I'm about to start a new topic here.

I am deeply sadden that a lot of "self-proclaim" Christian who calls themselves Christian but comes into office daily with F-word, smoking and basically there is no conviction in them. Grace of God to them seemed so cheap, taken for granted.

We really need a prayer (A LONG Prayer) on this.

Then where you are now is no accident. If this is impressed upon you, you must pray for them and love them despite their back-sliden nature.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 26 2012, 11:26 AM

Truthwise ... According to the Gospel of Matthew, there are three aspects of the kingdom of the heavens: the reality, the appearance, and the manifestation. The reality of the kingdom of the heavens is the inward content of the kingdom of the heavens in its heavenly and spiritual nature, as revealed in chapters five through seven. The appearance of the kingdom of the heavens is the outward condition of the kingdom of the heavens in name, as revealed in chapter thirteen. The manifestation of the kingdom of the heavens is the practical coming of the kingdom of the heavens in power, as revealed in chapters twenty-four and twenty-five. Both the reality and the appearance of the kingdom of the heavens are with the church today. The reality of the kingdom of the heavens is the proper church life (Rom. 14:17), which is within the appearance of the kingdom of the heavens, known as Christendom.

In Matthew 13:24-43 the appearance of Christendom as the appearance of the kingdom of the heavens is revealed through the parables of the tares, the mustard seed, and the leaven. The parable of the tares (13:24-30, 36-43) reveals the establishment of the kingdom and its false constituents. Verses 24 and 25 say, “The kingdom of the heavens was likened to a man sowing good seed in his field. But while the men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares amidst the wheat and went away.” The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man (v. 37), the field is the world, the good seed are the sons of the kingdom, and the tares are the sons of the evil one (v. 38). Both the tares and the wheat grow in the field; that is, the false believers and the true ones live in the world. The kingdom of the heavens was established with the sons of the kingdom, the wheat, but the sons of the evil one, the tares, grew up to alter the situation. Hence, a difference has arisen between the kingdom of the heavens and its outward appearance. Whereas the sons of the kingdom constitute the kingdom, the sons of the evil one have formed the outward appearance of the kingdom, which today is called Christendom.

In 13:31 and 32 we have a parable telling of the abnormal development of the outward appearance of the kingdom. “Another parable He set before them, saying, The kingdom of the heavens is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field; which is indeed smaller than all the seeds, but when it is grown, it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of heaven come and roost in its branches.” The church, which is the embodiment of the kingdom, should be like an herb to produce food, but it became a tree, a lodge for birds, having its nature and function changed. (This is against the law of God’s creation that every plant must be after its kind—Gen. 1:11-12.) This happened when Constantine the Great mixed the church with the world in the first part of the fourth century. He brought thousands of false believers into Christianity, making it Christendom, no longer the church. Hence, this parable corresponds to the third of the seven churches in Revelation 2 and 3, the church in Pergamos (2:12-17), which signifies the church in union with the world through Constantine’s influence. Multitudes of unbelievers were baptized and the “church” became monstrously great. The mustard is an annual herb, whereas the tree is a perennial plant. The church, according to its heavenly and spiritual nature, should be like the mustard herb, sojourning on the earth. But with its nature changed, the church became deeply rooted and settled in the earth as a tree, flourishing with its enterprises as the branches to lodge many evil persons and things. This has formed the outward organization of the outward appearance of the kingdom of the heavens.

Im depression now cos not sure about my life direction.

Can u guys pray for me so I can find the direction to become rich?

Riches will not make you happy.

You'll be rich & happy if you have the followings:

Matthew 5:
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Sorry, you can only pray to 1 God, it's either you worship Money or you worship God.

1 Corinthians 13:
1 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

dafuq?~!!

ask u pray for me then u tell me rich cannot make me happy. Every individual is different bro~!!

if money cant make u happy doesnt mean cant make me happy. And im not worship money. Im just ask u help pray me success become rich. Then i can donate alot and make ppl happy also make me happy

Matthew 6:33

But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.



Don't be naive.

thtas what im doing. Im seek his kingdom here and ask u all pray for me

Im not go seek money then only God

You are right. God knows the heart of each individual. He knows if money/riches will destroy an individual and
He knows who can handle money/riches and yet maintain a deep relationship with God as first priority.

Because Money is just a temporal happiness. It's not lasting joy. Allow me to explain why.

The moment you have loads of money, you're happy. The moment you have none, you're Not happy.

If Money becomes the condition of your happiness, then you have a problem.

What will you do when you're always low on money and never have enough?

That's when you decide to get miserable and you get angry easily towards people.

You think because of the lack of money, it gives you the license to mistreat people.

Money is not a real source of Joy.

Even if you have a brand new BMW, you'll probably hold your happiness up to certain months and after that, it's becomes nothing really.

By then you'll want something more, maybe a Ferrari. Point is, the things of this world is a false sense of security and happiness. It doesn't last.

That's why I say this is a problem.

So my question to you.

Is your pursuit of money stronger or your pursuit of God is stronger?

Because one of the perks of being a Christian is that God will take care of all your needs as long as you put Him as FIRST priority (Mat 6:33)

If that is the case you should start of by letting God meet your basic need first. And improvise as you mature spiritually.

If you let God be your first priority, God can be your everlasting joy.




Since Money is evidently just temporary happiness, we should seek an even better Joy which is only found in God.


God Bless.

That's why we say beware of those who preach the 'gospel of wealth'.

You can have all the money, but there are those who've obtained it illegally/etc yet they feel proud?

All this physical/earthly things you cannot bring with you when you die..

I know some people who are saying it's ok because it's just a minor thing not a sin being commited...

When I read 'Everyday With Jesus' 3 days ago there's an interesting part:
"To ignore the reality of sin is dishonest. To tamper with labels and call a serious thing by a light name is utter foolishness. We don't make a deadly thing innocuous by giving it a different name.
Poison is still poison - no matter what label we give it."



Another topic:
I remember a 'church' who went house by house, so I listened to them, basically they picked this verse that says something like no matter we do good or evil, we go nowhere. So they kept telling me, I must have been always exposed to the teachings that doing good will lead you to kingdom of god and doing evil will lead you to hell. So they told me you won't go anywhere, doesn't matter good/evil. The I just kept on nodding trying to get rid of them lol.


Correct me if i'm wrong, of course when we die we don't go anywhere yet, until Jesus comes again to judge the living and the dead. So this is an example of people who uses verses of bible to influence is a wrong way? They don't tell you the whole context/story. Only use the literal verses.

This post has been edited by Eugene91: Mar 26 2012, 11:33 PM

Allow me to balance this up before anyone gets confuse.

There is nothing wrong with having money whether it's loads of it or less of it. God knows this is a legitimate need that needs no reason nor justification to having it. People cannot live without money while on earth.

The problem akin to money is this. Like I said before,

Is your pursuit of money stronger or your pursuit of God is stronger?

The moment you focus on pursuing money, you will lose your focus on spiritual pursuit of God and drop it to secondary and maybe even further as times goes by.

Those who are new in Christ or still in the immature spiritual stage, will be in the danger of this category because they lack the knowledge.

Jesus never says to pursue money at all. You won't find it in the Bible.

In Fact He says Seek first the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you! (Mat 6:33)

Jesus is saying YOU WILL HAVE IT. Since you are going to have your financial needs met, why pursue it at all? In fact It will come pursuing you, but what is the condition? Read the verse again.

So is it wrong that there are Genuine Christians who are very Rich and Wealthy? Is it Sinful for them to be in that state?

None at all because they know their priority. God will promote and increase you when He sees you are humbled and ready to serve others.

In fact if you ask really spiritual people, they will tell you they have no attachment to money, neither do they see it as something worth pursuing.

One of the secret to having an abundant and blessed financial life is to keep on tithing faithfully to Church and to keep on generously giving to those in need, like the homeless, welfare, etc. Do it with the right heart because it's the right thing to do. Don't do it for the sake that you want to be rich.

God is not fooled.


Jesus has given us a new covenant in NT that Salvation is by Faith.
It is not through doing good works. Salvation through works is under the old law of the OT.
Yes you can ignore that erroneous doctrine.







Catholic theology believes Purgatory is a temporary place where Christian’s soul goes to after death to be punished and cleansed of the sins that had not been fully satisfied during life. If man is to be punished That basically means man's salvation can be attain in purgatory by self effort or work and this very clearly conflicts the work of the cross where Jesus redeem us.

Romans and Hebrew scripture above clearly says Jesus Sacrifice for our sins is complete, finish and once for all. All of God's Judgement and wrath fell upon Jesus consumed it into his human body, stoke after stroke after stroke of the punishment when it was done, He cried, IT IS FINISHED! (John 19:30)

Once and For ALL. Nobody need to do purgatory cleansing for any kind of Sin any more. That is God's unmerited grace for you and for me. Self effort is self righteousness. Jesus says to only believe in his perfect finished work because our own blood is stain with sin and our self effort can never atone.

Jesus says I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. No ones comes to the Father but THROUGH me NOT through our punishment in Purgatory.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 27 2012, 01:02 AM

Oh? What verse was that?

What do you know about God part 2?




This is the one central key of great importance that separates Christianity from the rest of the religion in this world. LOVE.

Why is this verse important and why does it seem there's a complete change in the New Testament from the Old Testament where there always seem to be Judgement and Punishment and God's wrath?

Answer: Because Man's Sin is already paid for in Jesus Christ. God no longer holds his Judgement against you.


Dear Brothers and Sisters, when you know you are LOVED and FORGIVEN of all SINS, you will have no desire to hate others because you are satisfied and complete within.

As Bad as you were, as corrupted as you were, as hateful as you were, as ruthless as you were, God still wants you. And He STILL chose you despite of your flaws.

This is love that surpasses All understanding.

It's like this, when you wronged someone or someone wronged you, naturally you'll want to avoid that person. Why Because you feel that either that person owe you or you owe the other person, some form of apology. Same thing with God, when you know you've sinned against God, naturally you'll want to avoid if not run away.

Dear Friends, you don't have to run or avoid anymore. Hebrews 8:12 Declare you are forgiven.

Since you are completely forgiven, then you no longer need to hold on to grudges towards others.

Release it and your forgiveness will release you and lighten your burden.

You will be light weighted and you can move faster and better and higher to the place of greater heights.

Why is Love central in the New Testament?

Love is what unites Man throughout the world.

You will not find any record of God's wrath in the New Testament.

Consider the following Scripture that testify of God's New Covenant.



God Desire Mercy and not judgement.

Jesus has been consistent in his action to testify the world, that God is a God who desire Love and Mercy more than Judgement and Wrath.

And if you do as He says, his word declares "By this all men will know that you are my disciples".

If God himself acknowledge that you as his disciples, Then God knows you.


God Bless!

Got money buy BMW make me happy few months.

No money always preach God to everyone u think can make me happy how many days?

To preach about God, you must know God personally.

If you know God personally, you can have joy, peace and happiness throughout your life even if you don't have much money.

But If you truly know God, He will provide all your needs in life.


This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 28 2012, 11:35 AM

u preach a lot. do u know god?

Dear Brothers n Sister in Christ

My advise to you is, try not get into argument with non believers in this forum. Because you will get nothing out of it but insults and scorn because those who don't know God are still under the influence of the Anti-Christ.

Instead guard what you say and try your best to only use your words to build others up.

If you want to maintain your integrity as a Christian and be the salt and light of this world, follow what God says as below.

By His grace, Yes and still pursuing.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 28 2012, 02:13 PM

may i know which church u r from?

You are a christian?