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This post has been edited by Busquets: May 20 2011, 09:47 AM

I want to get answer from you all, then only i do research.

Everytime what I understand about bible, I got different answer from other christians.

getting different replies from christians are pretty common. one example can be used in many situations. similarly, 1 scripture may carry many different meanings. it's good to talk about it and know how those "meanings" come from. if they are from the bible and according to the teachings, i doubt any christian would say that it is totally wrong.

This is why we will encourage you to always check the Word as you hear from us. I usually try to put as much Scriptures as I can when sharing with you. Do check them. In one sense, don't fully "trust" our speaking as we are all fallen men with strange bias and backgrounds.

The Word is living and operative, and are not dead letters.

Well, you did ask my opinion on those matters ... and these are MY OPINIONS and have nothing to do with the Bible. As usual, they are not central things in the Bible.

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I won't know what your churchmate's sister saw. Logically, I will ask how a non-Christians knows what is an angel? Did she saw a person with wings?
I was once corrected by someone that there is no record of angels having wings in the Bible . Why will they need wings? They could travel beyond space and time I have heard of a story of young child (pureness?) seeing "someone" in white standing behind/beside a person on a podium. But the description never mention wings ... I am afraid we are too much "influenced" by traditions/cultures/TVs...

Mostly, I heard testimonies of believers having seen demonic possessions. These tend to be more common occurrence, though very few.

I will admit that I (and perhaps others) tend to prefer "going to heaven/going up there" than going down due to many religious backgrounds. Even symbolically, going up is better than going down

Eph 4
9 (Now this, "He ascended,'' what is it except that He also descended into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He who descended, He is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens that He might fill all things.)

Even the Lord descended first before His ascension. Who are you that you get to ascend right after death ? John 3:13, which was spoken by the Lord Jesus while He was on the earth as the Son of Man, says, “And no one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended out of heaven, the Son of Man, who is in heaven.”

Perhaps the angel is taking him down later?

This post has been edited by pehkay: May 20 2011, 11:55 AM

Its like doing homework.

do you ask for all the answers before picking and choosing one to write it as your own?
OR

do you do your own research too, and then comparing it with others, so that you and the rest can offer good discussions and help edify each other instead of just being passive and listening and listening and none of us here know what is it thats in your mind?

Whaty about the parable of the Rich man (in hades ) and Lazarus (in heaven?)

You are suggesting a limbo called purgatory, which isn't mentioned in the bible

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Added on May 20, 2011, 1:53 pmAnd didnt Elijah taken off to heaven on a chariot?

This post has been edited by happy4ever: May 20 2011, 01:53 PM

hareluyaaaaa

Added! welcome!

Alleluya has elements of Allah in it

I don't know why people keep saying that Christians believe that the world will end on May 21st

This post has been edited by Thinkingfox: May 20 2011, 01:57 PM

those who claim may 21st use numerology and are part of a small cultic apocalyptic group

those who claim ALL CHRISTIANS believe are trolls and idiots, particularly atheists

LIKE.

utusan said seorang paderi and i was like :fp:

Sometimes not only the way I interprete bible different from others, the way i view things and the way I act is different from others, too.

But to answer your questions:

1. do you ask for all the answers before picking and choosing one to write it as your own?
-->I asked all the questions from as many people as I can, including local churches' pastors, christians friends, books etc, I also email to neighbour country's church pastor. Some give me different answers, some didn't answer my questions (avoid answering my questions?)

2. do you do your own research too, and then comparing it with others, so that you and the rest can offer good discussions and help edify each other instead of just being passive and listening and listening and none of us here know what is it thats in your mind?
-->I did this too. Many times I tell them what I view the certain verses, they tell me that's wrong and these christians are mostly christians for many years (have read the bible over and over again). Many times I turn back to neutral position, not keeping my own view, neither keeping theirs.

@Debbiesys - The plurality of views on the Bible and other topics is something that you will need to get used to when talking with Protestant Christians.

I usually give the example of doctors or scientists - you can see various doctors and they may give you different diagnoses and scientists may have different interpretations of the data. But of course, this in no way discredits the profession of doctors and scientists. Nor does it mean it is hopeless or pointless to continue learning and looking until we finally have enough to make up our mind.

This post has been edited by lycaphim: May 20 2011, 02:59 PM

does gambling prohibited? any exception?

Hi there, the Bible doesn't speak explicitly about gambling and strictly speaking, there is very little difference between gambling and gaming.

The only issue here is addiction to gambling - which, whether you are a Christian or not - is a bad thing.

That's is different perspective between bible and doctor or scientist. There is only truth, but there are many different remedies between western doctor or easter doctors or scientists, thus to each its own.

Don't you want to know the 'actual' truth in the bible?

Sorry if I wasn't clear - I was not saying that actual truth can never be found. I said that even if there are many people giving different interpretations, that does not in any way mean that the truth can never be found. But it looks like you agree on this as well.

if gambling without addicted, good or bad? gambling consider fool? if yes then bible did talk about foolish..

This post has been edited by timetravelller: May 20 2011, 03:44 PM