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post Feb 16 2011, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(TOROBO @ Feb 16 2011, 08:07 PM)
can I plonk in an engine from Ninja or the likes into  Honda TZM?
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Can but the cost of doing such modifications are usually considered wasteful because the TZM is not made to handle that kind of power..
A lot of money will be wasted on modifications and modified vehicles usually will have less resale value..
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post Feb 16 2011, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(SecretPaladin @ Feb 16 2011, 08:08 PM)
kesian.. tarak duit beli keta? bodoh.. pi laj keja cari duit banyak sikit..
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Kesian..kenot think of better ways to troll and use personal attacks..go back to Troll 101

inb4 kereta stuck at KL traffic jam
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Feb 16 2011, 08:11 PM)
Kesian..kenot think of better ways to troll and use personal attacks..go back to Troll 101

inb4 kereta stuck at KL traffic jam
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wah.. u care my words? OMG.. i not mean that.. just a joke.. sorry man..
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post Feb 16 2011, 08:12 PM

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post Feb 16 2011, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Feb 16 2011, 08:09 PM)
Can but the cost of doing such modifications are usually considered wasteful because the TZM is not made to handle that kind of power..
A lot of money will be wasted on modifications and modified vehicles usually will have less resale value..
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post Feb 16 2011, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Feb 16 2011, 06:46 PM)
my point is i dont like new 250 v twin engine sound. like motoboat. last zxr 250 inline sound nicer.
i like dtracker 250 sound better and the supermoto itself. too bad fuel injection not yet launch. before cny. read my post u will know or just see the title

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1711620&hl=
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Feb 16 2011, 06:56 PM)
That's why you don't understand..that is a signature sound of the V twin..but because the cc of the 250R is small so it does not sound as nice as a Harley
Just like how Ducati has their Desmosedici engine..it sounds like crap..especially their Desmodromic valve which makes a clattering sound
But I still like the Ducati because it is their signature sound..especially when you strap on some Termignoni cans to it
Even the R1 from year 2009 onwards do not have the distinctive 4 inline sound because of their crossplane crankshaft..but I still like the sound of it
Just that their styling of the headlamps turn me off..its butt ugly
For the FZ150 I do not like the fuel injection because it is very hard to modify..even most mechanic shops say they do no have the knowledge to service it
Aftermarket parts for fuel injection also hard to come by..unlike the earlier kapcai want more power just get a bigger carburetor
And unless you can find someone who can reconfigure the FZ's ECU it is a not a very good bike to modify for extra power..
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since when 250r is vtwin?

it is parallel twin lah

250 with vtwin is blade, not ninja 250r


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post Feb 16 2011, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(tonton @ Feb 16 2011, 08:54 PM)
since when 250r is vtwin?

it is parallel twin lah

250 with vtwin is blade, not ninja 250r
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Never really checked the specs but I guess you're right..but I hardly see any difference except that parallel twin will be wider
Ducati's L-twin engine is awsm unlike the Harley EVO engine..
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post Feb 16 2011, 09:14 PM

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post Feb 17 2011, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Feb 16 2011, 06:39 PM)
Too lazy to read..no need for 450cc bike also
Last time before the Kawasaki Ninja 250R came out I was more interested in the Kawasaki ZXR250..although you can only find 2nd hand ones only
4 cylinder 250cc..it has that full 4 cylinder sound that sounds awesome..the problem only is that since it is not a new bike and parts are hard to find
Not to mention that it does not stay in the 2nd hand market very long..
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seriously I owned a 400cc 4 cylinder naked bike before and it's even feel underpowered.

zxr250 really headache to maintain, for example full overhaul costs like 4k (that's maybe 7 years ago).

As long as you can handle bike with a manual clutch you can handle litre bikes. I didn't masuk longkang when test ride few big bikes... instead bigger bikes feels much lighter, that time i only use 150cc 4 stroke before i got the 400

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Only real men can make any women bow to their wants and force them to sit behind and wear a helmet so they can shut up..
Pussies only drive cars because they bow down to the needs of their women..
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bike corners too slow, even when leaned alot on my 150cc (smaller bikes corners faster than bigger ones) the speed can't match cars at all. with dual tt900 tyres on one corner I can only max like 45km/h on bike (kecut telur liao), on car 60km/h easily with normal tyres. and the small 150cc bike 0-100kmh time too slow sad.gif

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post Feb 17 2011, 01:20 PM

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post Feb 17 2011, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 17 2011, 12:59 PM)
seriously I owned a 400cc 4 cylinder naked bike before and it's even feel underpowered.

zxr250 really headache to maintain, for example full overhaul costs like 4k (that's maybe 7 years ago).

As long as you can handle bike with a manual clutch you can handle litre bikes. I didn't masuk longkang when test ride few big bikes... instead bigger bikes feels much lighter, that time i only use 150cc 4 stroke before i got the 400
bike corners too slow, even when leaned alot on my 150cc (smaller bikes corners faster than bigger ones) the speed can't match cars at all. with dual tt900 tyres on one corner I can only max like 45km/h on bike (kecut telur liao), on car 60km/h easily with normal tyres. and the small 150cc bike 0-100kmh time too slow sad.gif
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izzit fz clutch easier? coz the engine did not died, first time riding clutch. last time i borrow fren yamaha 125z and rgv 125 cant control and die everytime i try to ride.

then if superbike like yamaha r6 or Gsxr 1000 the engine is powerful and torqey same like smaller clutch bike? means i can run up to a superbike and steal it from owner and ride away with no problem? brows.gif brows.gif hehe always wanted to do that tongue.gif

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post Feb 17 2011, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Feb 17 2011, 01:39 PM)
izzit fz clutch easier? coz the engine did not died, first time riding clutch. last time i borrow fren yamaha 125z and rgv 125 cant control and die everytime i try to ride.

then if superbike like yamaha r6 or Gsxr 1000 the engine is powerful and torqey same like smaller clutch bike? means i can run up to a superbike and steal it from owner and ride away with no problem?  brows.gif  brows.gif hehe always wanted to do that tongue.gif
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125z and rgv 120 are 2 stroke bikes, the engines easily die if you didn't open more throttle compared to 4 stroke bikes.

Most new unmodded litre bikes are gentle to ride on low rpms, that being said you shouldn't open the throttle like on small cc bikes. Even on 400cc it's torquey enough to spin the tires, but dam that feels good haha.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Feb 17 2011, 12:59 PM)
seriously I owned a 400cc 4 cylinder naked bike before and it's even feel underpowered.

zxr250 really headache to maintain, for example full overhaul costs like 4k (that's maybe 7 years ago).

As long as you can handle bike with a manual clutch you can handle litre bikes. I didn't masuk longkang when test ride few big bikes... instead bigger bikes feels much lighter, that time i only use 150cc 4 stroke before i got the 400
bike corners too slow, even when leaned alot on my 150cc (smaller bikes corners faster than bigger ones) the speed can't match cars at all. with dual tt900 tyres on one corner I can only max like 45km/h on bike (kecut telur liao), on car 60km/h easily with normal tyres. and the small 150cc bike 0-100kmh time too slow sad.gif
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I'm not saying that to use the Ninja 250R forever..its just a beginner's bike..what I am comparing with are the kapcai's
Usually the naked category does not have as much power as the supersport or superbike category..
Compare the ER-6N with the supersport category like the Yamaha R6..although not apples to apples because it is 2 cylinder vs 4 cylinder but the ER-6N is ~60HP while Yamaha R6 is like ~120HP
I can handle manual clutch easily but that doesn't mean that I should go and grab myself a Yamaha R1 as my first bike..
I've read a lot of people who actually did that and either end up losing control a lot because they couldn't handle it..
Not to mention the power delivery of those higher cc bikes can easily do a wheelie..now imagine a beginner accidentally did a wheelie by twisting the throttle too much
My 'rempit' days I've cornered a lot and even tried to race with a Mercedes in kampung road..luckily that time also use Dunlop TT900 and cornered like hell
Only lost to the car on the straight line..corners all I owned the car..and also at the cost of the TT900 that botak very fast and cost like >RM200 for a set of 80/80 and 90/80
Cornering depends on the bike of course..you cannot expect to corner better with a Kawasaki ZX-14 than a Ducati 1198
The corners I can do at least >50km/h depending on how grippy my tires are and how much I lean..I've lean before till my foot pegs grate the road as well
I'd rather transition from a 250R to a Yamaha R6 then maybe a Ducati 1098 rather than just go straight to the liter bikes..don't want to die too soon
Anyway I salute you if you could corner like this guy..this is what Rossi wanted for MotoGP..he wanted more powerslides like they have with 2 strokes back then



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post Feb 17 2011, 07:49 PM

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20k for 250cc twin is just too expensive. Unless you are looking to ride it for a long time the Kawasaki kips 150 is even better in performance for just around rm9k.

The thing I said about how underpowered 250cc is that the torque isn't enough. If you compare er6 and R6, both bike actually have about same torque, which makes them fair quite the same on daily roads where you doesn't go past 120km/h most of the time. I think on 2nd gear on R6 you already reach near or past 100km/h, only place you can use all the HPs are highways....

And leaning on kapcai of course easily grate the roads.
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thats nick apex bro. using extended swing arm on zx 10 r.

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heres the setup for the drift bike

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Nick Apex’s “Motorcycle vs. Car Drift Battle” video screamed into our lives last month to help cure the winter blues and get us dreaming about riding this upcoming season. While Nick’s drift skills were the star of the show, the machine he tore up the track on was a close second.

Nick has been keeping the stunt community in tune with his ZX10 build through social media and the forums. Now that it’s in a complete state (although custom bikes are never “done” in any sense of the word) we caught up with him to give us the official rundown of what’s under the safety-yellow fairings of his drift Kawasaki.

Nick “Apex” Brocha: The most important modification is the Roaring Toyz Stealth braced 8-12inch over swingarm. This allows the bike to be predictable and mellows out the snap-back associated with high-speed drifting.

Tires are everything and the standard freestyle Avon setup I run is also on the driftbike. The ZX10 has a Viper VP2 Extreme front for maximum grip. On the back is a massive 240 Avon Cobra that has a good grip/slip profile and an amazing lifespan. I don't know of any other tire that takes this abuse, big drifts all day everyday and she's still kicking!

The 10 has a LeoVince SBK EVO II full Titanium exhaust system with Ultimate Midnight can for more power. While the 2005 ZX10 has one of my favorite power deliveries more is good thing when it comes to spinning the tire at high speeds. More power modification to come!

One thing that needs mentioning is the paint. The bike really looks the part and that's thanks to Air Fusion Designs of Las Vegas. The bike has over 12 stages of paint work and in person you can see all the detail the camera misses.

Fast is fun but it has to end. For that job Galfer brake systems are there to save the day with Galfer Wave Rotors pinched by 2009 ZX10 Tokico brake calipers by way or trick Galfer white braided lines.
The Breakdown

Front End: Avon Extreme VP2 Tire, Galfer wave rotors, Galfer white brake lines, Galfer G1003 brake pads, lowered 1 inch

Rear End: Avon Cobra 240 tire, Roaring Toyz strut system, yep she's a hard tail for now, Roaring Toyz 8-12 over inch stealth braced swingarm, Roaring Toyz 4 piston radial rear brake, Roaring Toyz 240 kit sprocket and brake system

Motor: LeoVince full Titanium system with a custom Ultimate Midnight shorty can

Paint: Air Fusion Designs by Nick Lee of Las Vegas, Icon Salvo graphics

Accessories: HT Moto carbon fiber look seat, ASV Unbreakable clutch and brake levers, JDA frame/fork/axle caps
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post Feb 17 2011, 07:58 PM

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@terradrive
Maybe not new but a 2nd hand 250R should be good enough..20k is expensive no doubt..just to get the feel before moving on to higher and higher cc
And back then I leaned with a modified kapcai with TZM footpegs that is higher and backwards a bit instead of the standard ones..

@supermoto
Yes I know who that is..really good stunt biker comparable to Chris Pfeiffer..was just commenting on how he could take corners like that..I'm amazed

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post Feb 18 2011, 10:15 AM

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many judges favour CP, coz of consistency. imho there's other stunter better than CP. theres a clip show that even CP bow down to 19 year old stunter. i post it when i found it.

clip of jorian ponomareff.

CP said jorian is kama sutra of stunting.

i have been following stunt scene since 1995.

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QUOTE(atokia @ Feb 16 2011, 08:12 PM)
fzi laju woh kat highway...power2..
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tak laju pon, kancil pon potong saya. saya ada ke tak puas hati ....

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