I already gave up on kapcai already..now superbike is the only thing that I will ever consider Most kapcai got meter ringan..you look at your meter 150 km/h but actually 120 km/h only..factory set just to give you shiok factor I'd rather save a little bit more and get the Kawasaki Ninja 250R instead.. Never really liked the cheap sound of the single cylinder of kapcai..especially when they go put their tin milo AHM racing pipe..sound so empty Even 135LC with stock exhaust also sound more smooth with stock exhaust..when they change to AHM start la the shitty kapcai sound Real men only ride this or anything better than this..
even this bike is underpowered.... for real bike at least use er6
That one is around 26K if I recall..the 250R at least under 20K which is still possible for beginners to start with Anyway the 250R is better especially if new to superbiking..too much power for beginners all will end up digging own grave only At least the 250R gives a solid kind of speed..not the fake kind of speed you get with a kapcai Give a beginner a Suzuki Hayabusa and the next thing he will land in the longkang only..
check the link i give in first page why i couldnt afford expensive bike, i wish i cud get at least 450 cc bike. supermoto < superbike
Too lazy to read..no need for 450cc bike also Last time before the Kawasaki Ninja 250R came out I was more interested in the Kawasaki ZXR250..although you can only find 2nd hand ones only 4 cylinder 250cc..it has that full 4 cylinder sound that sounds awesome..the problem only is that since it is not a new bike and parts are hard to find Not to mention that it does not stay in the 2nd hand market very long..
my point is i dont like new 250 v twin engine sound. like motoboat. last zxr 250 inline sound nicer. i like dtracker 250 sound better and the supermoto itself. too bad fuel injection not yet launch. before cny. read my post u will know or just see the title
That's why you don't understand..that is a signature sound of the V twin..but because the cc of the 250R is small so it does not sound as nice as a Harley Just like how Ducati has their Desmosedici engine..it sounds like crap..especially their Desmodromic valve which makes a clattering sound But I still like the Ducati because it is their signature sound..especially when you strap on some Termignoni cans to it Even the R1 from year 2009 onwards do not have the distinctive 4 inline sound because of their crossplane crankshaft..but I still like the sound of it Just that their styling of the headlamps turn me off..its butt ugly For the FZ150 I do not like the fuel injection because it is very hard to modify..even most mechanic shops say they do no have the knowledge to service it Aftermarket parts for fuel injection also hard to come by..unlike the earlier kapcai want more power just get a bigger carburetor And unless you can find someone who can reconfigure the FZ's ECU it is a not a very good bike to modify for extra power..
dma0991 Desmosedici different configuration / engineering from ducati 916 996 ???
i like the sound of 916 996
No it has always been the same for Ducati..the Desmodromic valve actuation is their signature method..they are the only one that uses it The 916 and 996 is nice..999 is crap design..the 1098 onwards is back to basics with the 916 design What I meant is because the valve actuation is mechanical instead of spring loaded it has a clattering sound..it is Ducati's signature sound although sound like engine rosak
only awet <insert race> will sit on ur bike. chinese amoi wont sit bike one. bodo TS
Only real men can make any women bow to their wants and force them to sit behind and wear a helmet so they can shut up.. Pussies only drive cars because they bow down to the needs of their women..
realman ahem inside car during raining. bikeman ahem inside youth park or hutan tropika when raining.. kesian..
Bikeman responsible person on the road..look in front before both end up in longkang Carman not responsible want girls to hisap their batang and masuk longkang as they cum..
can I plonk in an engine from Ninja or the likes into Honda TZM? c:
Can but the cost of doing such modifications are usually considered wasteful because the TZM is not made to handle that kind of power.. A lot of money will be wasted on modifications and modified vehicles usually will have less resale value..
Never really checked the specs but I guess you're right..but I hardly see any difference except that parallel twin will be wider Ducati's L-twin engine is awsm unlike the Harley EVO engine..
seriously I owned a 400cc 4 cylinder naked bike before and it's even feel underpowered.
zxr250 really headache to maintain, for example full overhaul costs like 4k (that's maybe 7 years ago).
As long as you can handle bike with a manual clutch you can handle litre bikes. I didn't masuk longkang when test ride few big bikes... instead bigger bikes feels much lighter, that time i only use 150cc 4 stroke before i got the 400 bike corners too slow, even when leaned alot on my 150cc (smaller bikes corners faster than bigger ones) the speed can't match cars at all. with dual tt900 tyres on one corner I can only max like 45km/h on bike (kecut telur liao), on car 60km/h easily with normal tyres. and the small 150cc bike 0-100kmh time too slow
I'm not saying that to use the Ninja 250R forever..its just a beginner's bike..what I am comparing with are the kapcai's Usually the naked category does not have as much power as the supersport or superbike category.. Compare the ER-6N with the supersport category like the Yamaha R6..although not apples to apples because it is 2 cylinder vs 4 cylinder but the ER-6N is ~60HP while Yamaha R6 is like ~120HP I can handle manual clutch easily but that doesn't mean that I should go and grab myself a Yamaha R1 as my first bike.. I've read a lot of people who actually did that and either end up losing control a lot because they couldn't handle it.. Not to mention the power delivery of those higher cc bikes can easily do a wheelie..now imagine a beginner accidentally did a wheelie by twisting the throttle too much My 'rempit' days I've cornered a lot and even tried to race with a Mercedes in kampung road..luckily that time also use Dunlop TT900 and cornered like hell Only lost to the car on the straight line..corners all I owned the car..and also at the cost of the TT900 that botak very fast and cost like >RM200 for a set of 80/80 and 90/80 Cornering depends on the bike of course..you cannot expect to corner better with a Kawasaki ZX-14 than a Ducati 1198 The corners I can do at least >50km/h depending on how grippy my tires are and how much I lean..I've lean before till my foot pegs grate the road as well I'd rather transition from a 250R to a Yamaha R6 then maybe a Ducati 1098 rather than just go straight to the liter bikes..don't want to die too soon Anyway I salute you if you could corner like this guy..this is what Rossi wanted for MotoGP..he wanted more powerslides like they have with 2 strokes back then
This post has been edited by dma0991: Feb 17 2011, 07:43 PM
@terradrive Maybe not new but a 2nd hand 250R should be good enough..20k is expensive no doubt..just to get the feel before moving on to higher and higher cc And back then I leaned with a modified kapcai with TZM footpegs that is higher and backwards a bit instead of the standard ones..
@supermoto Yes I know who that is..really good stunt biker comparable to Chris Pfeiffer..was just commenting on how he could take corners like that..I'm amazed
This post has been edited by dma0991: Feb 17 2011, 08:00 PM
I don't mind getting a 2 stroke bike over a 4 stroke bike under the 250-500CC category..anything more is 4 stroke superbikes However I still don't like RXZ because the body is big but the tires are small..making it look wimpy to me If it was properly portioned to look like a superbike I wouldn't mind..if it is like the NSR500
Never really liked those headlights..wish they would change it back to the original..the engine sound is good though but superbike purists says otherwise
dont want side mirror , the signal light , then it will look more chun.
The side mirror no choice because laws state that it is not legal to not have side mirrors..and I still find them useful There are however smaller mirrors that fits the bill that there are side mirrors..also got the turn signals that are flush with the fairing The only problem is that that turn signals is very expensive..
QUOTE(mambangafro @ Apr 15 2011, 12:26 AM)
maybe some people choose 2-stroke engine because it's maintenance cost is cheaper than 4-stroke engine...
Maintenance cost cheaper I don't think so..about the same I guess if you include 2T oil as a form of maintenance Most people still like 2 stroke because they don't like electronics controlling the power delivery to the wheel..even Rossi still likes 2 stroke bikes
I second that..my motor mechanic tells me that almost all kapcai have uncalibrated meter or 'meter ringan' he likes to call it.. He used to race and manage a team in Cubprix so I believe what he says is true..most of them higher than actual speed just to give then shiok factor look at meter
QUOTE(khelben @ Apr 15 2011, 02:04 PM)
Ninja 250r EFI or Blade 250r EFI ah?
Dilemma.
Go for the Ninja..it is a lot better than the Blade and the Hyosung Comet is the original..Naza Blade is only a rebadge of the Hyosung
Yeah I know bout the Blade Hyosung thing, did a lot of research but still can't decide.
Blade looks better, a little bigger and like 6k cheaper too.
Don't know about you but the Ninja looks a lot better to me actually..has a fairing which does help in strong winds Usually I don't prefer such a big bike..I would rather choose a slim Ducati 1198 over a wide Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R as it just handles better The Blade may be 6k cheaper but I think the Kawasaki got better resale value..if there is a Kawasaki 2nd hand I'd grab it already..Blade maybe only
Hmm but Ninja 250 second hand will most probably be carb. Blade's FI.
I did a lot of "Hyosung vs Ninja 250" searches on google and the ang moh generally prefers how the Blade looks.
But Kawasaki should have the built quality.
And with the lower seat, it should be more comfortable too.
Somehow for a bike of that CC I still prefer carburetor although the fuel consumption is slightly higher than EFI.. Carburetor is so simple it hardly ever fails if you set the fuel to air ratio properly..EFI on the other had relies on the ECU to tells it what to do Maintenance on a carb also should be cheaper than EFI but of course if I were to go for 600-1000 CC supersport/superbike it would definitely be EFI Lower seat I am not too sure whether it affects ride comfort but handlebar height definitely does..the Kawasaki has a pretty high handlebar so does the Blade Ultimately it is still depend on what you perceive as nice..I may look at the Kawasaki and like it but you may not because you prefer the look of the Blade Also I look for ease of maintenance/spare parts..the Kawasaki is pretty popular here so spare parts are common.. I had a bike last time with scarce amounts of spare parts and fixing it is a nightmare and expensive..
I don't like the FZ that you got..too ugly IMHO..nowadays also the design for Yamaha bikes going down the drain already.. Looks so organic Gaban-ish kind of bike..at least Gaban's bike is cool but Yamaha bikes bluek The new version of the 135LC also look lousy already..looks so organic compared to the original..the original 135LC was way sportier looking