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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V5, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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post Feb 17 2011, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:07 PM)
laugh.gif  bigger aperture gain longer shutter speed? What the......
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i mean is it because it make it to f2.8 so we can boost up abit shutter speed , i dont mean wide aperture can gain longer shutter speed , sweat .

lol u guy better ignore me , my english suck i dont know how to explain what i mean .



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post Feb 17 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
last time i went Paris, snap for 3 days about 800+ pics on a single charge
70-300G VR got SWM, 70-300G non-VR is d 1 without motor

55-300 is better than 55-200 in almost everythg, except AF speed slower than 55-200 in low light
false statement
depending on which item, some r more expensive than other brands
Example, Canon 28-300L costs abt rm10k, but Nikon 28-300 costs 3.3k
Nikon 50 1.8 costs rm370-400+, but Canon 50 1.8 costs rm300
Nikon top flash model SB900 rm1600+, Canon top flash model 58EXII rm1700+, Sony top flash model around rm1500
Sony have Carl Zeiss lenses which some cost more than Nikon or Canon equivalent lenses
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
last time i went Paris, snap for 3 days about 800+ pics on a single charge
70-300G VR got SWM, 70-300G non-VR is d 1 without motor

55-300 is better than 55-200 in almost everythg, except AF speed slower than 55-200 in low light
false statement
depending on which item, some r more expensive than other brands
Example, Canon 28-300L costs abt rm10k, but Nikon 28-300 costs 3.3k
Nikon 50 1.8 costs rm370-400+, but Canon 50 1.8 costs rm300
Nikon top flash model SB900 rm1600+, Canon top flash model 58EXII rm1700+, Sony top flash model around rm1500
Sony have Carl Zeiss lenses which some cost more than Nikon or Canon equivalent lenses
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Some reviews beg to difer on the 55-200 vs 55-300 from what i read elsewhere. not to sure.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/55-300mm.htm#rex

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post Feb 17 2011, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:14 PM)
The 35 1.8G is only bout rm780
the 17-55 cost a bomb that's why might as well buy the 24-70 and upgrade the body.
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I even will go for 24-70 at any time as I find 17-55 range is not sufficient for me. tongue.gif
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post Feb 17 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:19 PM)
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which part? lol

QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 02:20 PM)
Some reviews beg to difer on the 55-200 vs 55-300 from what i read elsewhere. not to sure.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/55-300mm.htm#rex
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he's comparing 55-200 & 55-300 with 70-300 VR?
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post Feb 17 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:16 PM)
Plss read what i mean

i mean is it because it make it to f2.8 so we  can boost up abit shutter speed , i dont mean wide aperture can gain longer shutter speed , sweat ,

lol u guy better ignore me , my english suck i dont know how to explain what i mean , i think maumau know i mean.
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the f2.8 generally help you to shoot in low light situation, yes if you mean boost as in reducing the shutter speed.
But why not get the 24-70 and so that next time you can use it on a FX body?
It's not worth the money IMO to spend so much on a DX lens.
there's the siggy 17-50 which is cheaper if you're looking for f2.8.


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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:20 PM)
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I even will go for 24-70 at any time as I find 17-55 range is not sufficient for me. tongue.gif
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Me too, but may be he wants to cover the wide ends too. I would never spend so much on DX.
Get the 24-70 and eat bread everyday to save for a FX body. laugh.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:26 pm
QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 02:20 PM)
Some reviews beg to difer on the 55-200 vs 55-300 from what i read elsewhere. not to sure.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/55-300mm.htm#rex
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reviews from ken rockwell?
take it with a pinch of salt.

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post Feb 17 2011, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:23 PM)
the f2.8 generally help you to shoot in low light situation, yes if you mean boost as in reducing the shutter speed.
But why not get the 24-70 and so that next time you can use it on a FX body?
It's not worth the money IMO to spend so much on a DX lens.
there's the siggy 17-50 which is cheaper if you're looking for f2.8.


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:25 pm

Me too, but may be he wants to cover the wide ends too. I would never spend so much on DX.
Get the 24-70 and eat bread everyday to save for a FX body.  laugh.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:26 pm

reviews from ken rockwell?
take it with a pinch of salt.
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I will get 24-70mm when i got FX body but not now

ya i was thinking tamron , sigma , and nikon . wonder which is suit for DX

i need faster focus
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post Feb 17 2011, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:23 PM)
the f2.8 generally help you to shoot in low light situation, yes if you mean boost as in reducing the shutter speed.
But why not get the 24-70 and so that next time you can use it on a FX body?
It's not worth the money IMO to spend so much on a DX lens.
there's the siggy 17-50 which is cheaper if you're looking for f2.8.


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:25 pm

Me too, but may be he wants to cover the wide ends too. I would never spend so much on DX.
Get the 24-70 and eat bread everyday to save for a FX body.  laugh.gif


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:26 pm

reviews from ken rockwell?
take it with a pinch of salt.
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24-70 on DX body also geng lar..
no need FX if you go FX it will be almost like 17-55 perspective. tongue.gif
all my lenses are DX lenses cry.gif

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post Feb 17 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:27 PM)
I will get 24-70mm when i got FX body but not now

ya i was thinking tamron , sigma , and nikon . wonder which is suit for DX

i need faster focus
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f2.8 doesn't mean anything about focusing speed.
if you mean you want a 17-50/55 f2.8 with faster focus I think the siggy & nikon is faster than tamron.
and all three 17-50/55 is for DX.
if you got the money and you don't mind it's a DX lens then just go with the nikon. Siggy and tamron all have quality issue especially after 1 or 2 years.

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:29 PM)
24-70 on DX body also geng lar..
no need FX if you go FX it will be almost like 17-55 perspective. tongue.gif
all my lenses are DX lenses  cry.gif
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Not about the problem geng or not geng ,

is about the coverage you want and the aperture , fast len


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:33 pm
QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:31 PM)
f2.8 doesn't mean anything about focusing speed.
if you mean you want a 17-50/55 f2.8 with faster focus I think the siggy & nikon is faster than tamron.
and all three 17-50/55 is for DX.
if you got the money and you don't mind it's a DX lens then just go with the nikon. Siggy and tamron all have quality issue especially after 1 or 2 years.
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:29 PM)
24-70 on DX body also geng lar..
no need FX if you go FX it will be almost like 17-55 perspective. tongue.gif
all my lenses are DX lenses  cry.gif
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24 would become 36 on DX which is very tight for landscape.
it will become like 17-55 perspective but with the bigger sensor you get a lot MORE!!!
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post Feb 17 2011, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(ezrasang @ Feb 17 2011, 01:57 PM)
Oh no guys, don't look down on 55-200mm, it's a sharp lens for portrait. Ask ask General_Nic  thumbup.gif

Good question, I also wanna ask, why 24-70mm f/2.8 also no VR 1... Anyhow, do consider to get 24-70, it's a FX lens with Nano coating! Whereas 17-55 is a DX lens without Nano coating. I'm just comparing the worthness in terms of price.  laugh.gif  (Jeez, I'm repeating these many times already  sweat.gif)
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This one confirmed kena my poison the other day already... laugh.gif

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post Feb 17 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 17 2011, 02:23 PM)
which part? lol
he's comparing 55-200 & 55-300 with 70-300 VR?
its like heaven n earth  doh.gif
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no, its 55-200 vs 55-300, he seem to have concluded that 55-300 is not far superior to 55-200. of coz he said 70-300 is far superior la, comparin diff league ma!


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QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:23 PM)


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:26 pm

reviews from ken rockwell?
take it with a pinch of salt.
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oh, why is that may i know?

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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 17 2011, 02:33 PM)
This one confirmed kena my poison the other day already... laugh.gif
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laugh.gif that lens is best not to know it existed, or else you'll get poison kau kau

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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:32 PM)
Not about the problem geng or not geng ,

is about the coverage you want and the aperture , fast len


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Ic ... thanks you
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aperture is the same what? 2.8? sweat.gif
coverage? I told you about the perspective what? doh.gif

QUOTE(pikipiki @ Feb 17 2011, 02:33 PM)
24 would become 36 on DX which is very tight for landscape.
it will become like 17-55 perspective but with the bigger sensor you get a lot MORE!!!
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that's what I told u I prefer 24-70 perspective on DX. don't know if I will changed tongue.gif
Not a typical landscaper yet. tongue.gif
that's the reason I think 24-70 will serve me just fine on DX.
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QUOTE(virginslayer @ Feb 17 2011, 02:04 PM)
hi guys,i intend to get a nikon d7000 this weekend at lowyat. any idea what's the advantage apart of its high ISO? i heard many reviews that the nikon's parts are very expensive rather than others like sony and canon.cos i am currently using sony a33.
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Partially mag alloy body, dual slot SD card... And errr, not everything is more expensive than Canon and Sony, depends on items though.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 17 2011, 02:07 PM)
For the price, it's actually good, it's light, easy for travel and carry around, sharp too. The main drawback is it's focusing speed, but it depends what you use it for and you can learn to compensate the focusing speed by pre-focusing to shorten the focus time.

The 55-300 VR would be better with metal mount + 9 rounded aperture blades; This one have people selling sligthly below RM1K.

Anyhow, it depends what you use for and your requirements. This is s DX lens, so if you plan to upgrade to FX, you might want to consider the 70-300 VR. But if you just want a lens that is CHEAP, light, easy to carry around, the 55-200 or 55-300 would probably make do. The best is to test/try it out yourself the lens and decide.
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True true! 55-200 is indeed very light! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 17 2011, 02:11 PM)
Really? I even saw people using 35mm 1.8 on their D3s. yeah 35mm 1.8 is a DX lens. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 17 2011, 02:33 PM)
This one confirmed kena my poison the other day already... laugh.gif
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No ler, I kena since last year XD
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QUOTE(kathlynn @ Feb 17 2011, 02:34 PM)
no, its 55-200 vs 55-300, he seem to have concluded that 55-300 is not far superior to 55-200. of coz he said 70-300 is far superior la, comparin diff league ma!


Added on February 17, 2011, 2:35 pm

oh, why is that may i know?
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Ken Rockwell shoots jpeg! laugh.gif
and he called ppl that shoots raw and PP-people that can't shoot it right the first time
he's a nice guy but he is not a professional, just like me and you.
go read up reviews from professional instead of him.
and don't read those dpreview too all technical that doesn't mean anything, read those that actually shoot with the lens in reality.
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Right now 24-70's lens barrel is just nice to hold(go try it at nikon centre if you don't believe) tongue.gif . If it's built with VR, sure become much fatter and not sexy already. tongue.gif

Okay. The real reason behind is probably nikon thinks 24-70 is a "FX-specialized" lens, whereas all nikon FX already have awesome ISO noise performance right, therefor putting a VR in 24-70 is just "lebih" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(daze @ Feb 17 2011, 12:09 PM)
anyone from malacca here?
thinking of going down jonker street for a day or 2.
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im from melaka...

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