So far I went to a few cons only. But the most memorable ones for me are Anime Expo and AFA.
Heard the one organize by MMU quite nice but never got the chance to go yet.

its a Nikon Malaysia 10th Anniversary bash ... got lots of activities, chance to test out their latest gadgets & talks AS pros as well ...

somehow i was read as this
guess i haven't fully wake up haha... *rub eyes.

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Added on March 2, 2011, 10:49 amnever have money and guts travel so far
i'm not even got chance go to singapore...

This post has been edited by Agito666: Mar 2 2011, 10:49 AM

Program, aka fully auto.

Wonder what is that Nikon Club about .

When using the expanded ISOs, you are reducing the dynamic range of the sensor.

This is when you need the 1 or 2 stops ND filter.

Go easy on the USM. Too much sharpening.

Even thought I personally use RON 97 (I don't travel far), there's actually no harm using RON 95. Your engine's ECU will know how to compensate for different fuel and altitude.

Actually, f/1.4 aperture on the 85mm is not for low light but more for the bokeh.

If you count the out of focus bokeh, it's actually "easier" to create with the 135mm f/2 as the out of focus happens more immediately than say the 85mm f/1.4 for same subject distance.

Well, I picked the 85G instead of 135 f/2D due to f/1.4 factor.

f/1.4 is faster than f/2 which translates to faster shutter speed. Also, 85mm versus 135mm, you can shoot 85mm with lower shutter than what you can manage on a 135mm.

For the point I bold it, I can't exactly get what you are trying to say. Is it using 85mm and 135mm shooting from the same distance from subject, eg. 1.5 meter?

I am fully aware on shutter speeds that can be achieved with f/1.4 vs f/2.0. But in broad daylight, all this is moot when you push up ISO 200 to ISO 400. You automatically gain 1 stop.

Try playing around with the website I posted earlier;

http://dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

Select Nikon D3X, D3s, D3, D700 as camera. Select 85mm as focal length. Select f stop of 1.4. Select subject distance of say 6 meters (20 feet). You can choose whatever you want. Press calculate and check out how thin the DoF is. In this case for subject distance of 6m, you should get 0.42m.

Now change the focal length to 135, select f/2.0 and press calculate, you'll get the DoF as 0.23m. This is what I mean when I say that the out of focus happens more immediately as DoF is thinner on the 35mm f/2.0 even though the 135mm has 1 stop less aperture than the 85mm.

Try, 200mm and f/2.0 and you see how razor thin the DoF is.

Then again, all the above is just some observations. Choosing either one would depend on your shooting style. In case anybody ask, yes, I do own the 85mm and 135mm. My wish is for the 200mm.

Paper talk -__

when?

I have flexibility of f/2.0 or f/1.4 with the 85G instead of just f/2 with the 135mm . Your condition is for broad daylight, but for low light the f/1.4 rocks. I bought the 85G for low light, if I really need the range I still have a 70200 VR2 for that purpose although its f/2.8 but the VRII compensates for it.

LOL, I tested 85mm f/1.4 at 1.5m distance. 2.5cm of DOF? ._. but when I shoot portrait this close the other eye 1cm back also blur already :S.

Bro, what does caota mean ? Can't figure out.

Ops sorry, caota -> hangus haha.. no more this year ._.

Oh, haha. Any idea why?

but to get the same framing/subject size, you will need to stand further back lah compared to 85mm thus increasing the dof. subject distance is a variable, not a constant. if it's a constant, you get two different kind of pictures

comparing lenses using a dof calculator does not reflect real world shooting at all

@bold : That's why I say paper talk

Paper talk? Books on photography are considered paper talk? Those are very fundamental theories that one needs to put into practice. Don't know about you lah but if I I like to understand my equipment and use it to it's full potential, I would like to understand why it's doing what it's doing.

So far I've only seen shots with your 85mm f/1.4 in daylight. You shoot in low light too? I've not seen them.

Like I said, it you're hard pressed for higher shutter speed, a bump in the ISO would help solve most problems.

Some questions... Are you sure your subject is 1.5m from the camera? From which point are you measuring? Subject to edge of lens hood?

From the calculations, the focus should be sharp 1.24cm in front of subject and 1.26cm behind the subject (2.5cm DoF). Paper talk says that what you experience in the field shooting (i.e. the other eye 1cm back also blur already) and what is predicted is about close to correct. You're talking about 24 to 26 mm difference here.

Now the thing is assuming you have taken a measuring tape and measured 1.5m accurately the subject distance, there is a possibility that the lens + camera combo is front focusing a little (perhaps by 24 to 26mm maybe?). This may mean that the eye that you're focusing might still be in the DoF range and therefore it's still sharp.

I'm just putting hypothetical numbers here. All this can happen of course and perhaps explain what you're actually seeing.

That's correct. That's why I mention at the end that choosing 85mm or 135mm is based on shooting style and preference.

Reading the info online to understand your equipment ?

Manual is boooooooorrrrrriiiiiinnnnnnkkkkkk ~ ~ ~

Hmmm, I wonder why do people go onto forums like this?

No worries. If you can understand your equipment by just using it alone, more power to you ! I guess I'm not too surprised anymore with so much misinformation going around.

Forum for me is to TCSS, shares photos, poison each other, gathering !
And I won't be surprise to person at your age reads all the technical data. I do have friends around me did that when come to TT talk, no one knows better than him because he knows all the things about a single lens right from the weight to MFD !

I lose to him as well because I hates technical stuff.
I'm solely gearhead that collecting beautiful gears especially big aperture lens

This post has been edited by KTCY: Mar 2 2011, 03:19 PM

The only poison which makes me able to knock my head of is razu's Christmas theme and it was Nikon thread version 1 if I am not mistaken.
nowadays poison-less.

share photos? from 125 pages there might only 10 pages of photos maximum
Well.. never see any gathering in Nikon thread. or there is gathering-gonna-be?

most of this thread discussing gears lohh lens particularly..

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Mar 2 2011, 03:30 PM