QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 1 2011, 11:57 AM)
IQ...image quality affect by what? lens quality? focal range??
by the way you guys seems really free...no need work ar?
Sensor and lens of courseby the way you guys seems really free...no need work ar?
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Mar 1 2011, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(alvinX @ Mar 1 2011, 11:55 AM) i got no info regarding sigma one. Just that 10, maybe suit his taste. I tried sigma 10-20. my body doesn't AF with 1116 tokina. as it doesn't have AF motor. Nope, as he said he dun wan burn his bank account. In this case 1224 may come worthy. From my point of view, if 35mm able to satisfied you, with that kind of price i doubt the IQ you will ever make you regret it. But if you look for more 1116 is your choice. As for me, nikkor 1224 looks more complex than 1116. Just my 2 cents. QUOTE(kakisemut @ Mar 1 2011, 11:56 AM) YesQUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 1 2011, 11:56 AM) D3100 more better than D90 in term of IQ and noise control ! Yeahh.. Agree D3100 IQ is good but the lacking of AF makes me difficult in choosing lens.I'd say the list goes like this. From worst to best DX Sigma 10-20 f/4.5-5.6 Sigma 10-20 f/3.5 Tokina 12-24 Sigma 8-16 Nikkor 10-24 / Tamron 10-24 Tokina 11-16 Nikkor 12-24 anyway thanks for the list bro. Will do further research. Thanks! |
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 1 2011, 11:56 AM) DX this is what we want!!!Sigma 10-20 f/4.5-5.6 Sigma 10-20 f/3.5 Tokina 12-24 Sigma 8-16 Nikkor 10-24 / Tamron 10-24 Tokina 11-16 Nikkor 12-24 hahaha... Added on March 1, 2011, 12:04 pm QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 1 2011, 12:00 PM) I tried sigma 10-20. my body doesn't AF with 1116 tokina. as it doesn't have AF motor. what about upgrading to d7000??Yes Yeahh.. Agree D3100 IQ is good but the lacking of AF makes me difficult in choosing lens. anyway thanks for the list bro. Will do further research. Thanks! This post has been edited by kakisemut: Mar 1 2011, 12:04 PM |
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 1 2011, 11:56 AM) D3100 more better than D90 in term of IQ and noise control ! totally agree with your list bro ...I'd say the list goes like this. From worst to best DX Sigma 10-20 f/4.5-5.6 Sigma 10-20 f/3.5 Tokina 12-24 Sigma 8-16 Nikkor 10-24 / Tamron 10-24 Tokina 11-16 Nikkor 12-24 on a budget thats why i went for the Tokina cos the D90 got built in motor ... |
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 1 2011, 12:00 PM) I tried sigma 10-20. my body doesn't AF with 1116 tokina. as it doesn't have AF motor. Lol! Then why u still considering Tokina. If you can live without af, just afs all the way. 1224 FTW!!!Yes Yeahh.. Agree D3100 IQ is good but the lacking of AF makes me difficult in choosing lens. anyway thanks for the list bro. Will do further research. Thanks! |
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 1 2011, 11:43 AM) Oh ya. I thought Nikkor 12-24. I tried 4 different units (1 is mine 3 others is friends). All the same behaviour, I'm not saying you can't get sharp images with the points at the side, but the rate is lower.Tokina 12-24 quite soft to my liking. Not jumpy. 10-24 distortion a little complex. Prefer 11-16 If nikkor, 12-24 DX the best Added on March 1, 2011, 11:45 am Send together with you VRII for calibration ? AFAIK, it won't be. Tested the 35/1.4 and 85/1.4 before on my D90, it works accurately. For example if shoot with center it is probably 9/10, using the left hand or right hand (in horizontal mode), it could be down to maybe 7/10 instead. The top and bottom are cross sensors so no issue at all. |
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Mar 1 2011, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(alvinX @ Mar 1 2011, 12:05 PM) Lol! Then why u still considering Tokina. If you can live without af, just afs all the way. 1224 FTW!!! Read the post before jump into conclusion bro. some more giving feedback FTW! I said. I am considering tokina 12-24 or tokina 11-16. where if I want tokina 11-16 I have to upgrade my body because I don't have AF motor. else 12-24 version II which has AF motor. so I wanted to know about the suggestion. read the previous post before saying "FTW" bro. QUOTE(skycrawler @ Mar 1 2011, 12:05 PM) d7k second? |
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Mar 1 2011, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 1 2011, 12:09 PM) Read the post before jump into conclusion bro. some more giving feedback FTW! I said. I am considering tokina 12-24 or tokina 11-16. where if I want tokina 11-16 I have to upgrade my body because I don't have AF motor. else 12-24 version II which has AF motor. so I wanted to know about the suggestion. read the previous post before saying "FTW" bro. d7k second? |
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Mar 1 2011, 12:13 PM
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Mar 1 2011, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 1 2011, 11:43 AM) 10-24 distortion a little complex. Prefer 11-16 What kind of distortion? You mean the left and right sides of the picture when shot at 10mm? I believe all wide angles have this wide angle distortion. Limitation of the 35mm (or rather the smaller DX) frame.If nikkor, 12-24 DX the best Having said that, yes, Nikkors are always better but the question that remains is how much better are they compared to the rest... QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 1 2011, 11:47 AM) I tried sigma 10-20. doesn't really like it. What did you don't like about the Sigma?QUOTE(KTCY @ Mar 1 2011, 11:56 AM) From worst to best How did you compile this list? Did somebody make a comparison test for all of them above?DX Sigma 10-20 f/4.5-5.6 Sigma 10-20 f/3.5 Tokina 12-24 Sigma 8-16 Nikkor 10-24 / Tamron 10-24 Tokina 11-16 Nikkor 12-24 QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 1 2011, 12:00 PM) Yeahh.. Agree D3100 IQ is good but the lacking of AF makes me difficult in choosing lens. Shooting landscapes is usually focused near infinity. Else, use hyperfocal technique and set aperture f8 to f11 and you should get everything spot on.anyway thanks for the list bro. Will do further research. Thanks! |
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Mar 1 2011, 12:22 PM
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Mar 1 2011, 12:23 PM
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what is hyperfocal technique?
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Mar 1 2011, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Mar 1 2011, 12:21 PM) What kind of distortion? You mean the left and right sides of the picture when shot at 10mm? I believe all wide angles have this wide angle distortion. Limitation of the 35mm (or rather the smaller DX) frame. Having said that, yes, Nikkors are always better but the question that remains is how much better are they compared to the rest... What did you don't like about the Sigma? How did you compile this list? Did somebody make a comparison test for all of them above? Shooting landscapes is usually focused near infinity. Else, use hyperfocal technique and set aperture f8 to f11 and you should get everything spot on. ![]() sample of sigma 10-20mm doesn't really like the distortion. and heard tokina is better with only small difference amount of money. Honestly I know I want 11-16 tokina it just doesn't AF QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 1 2011, 12:22 PM) No I mean this body doesn't have AF I need to be picky sometimes when buying lens. This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Mar 1 2011, 12:41 PM |
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Mar 1 2011, 12:40 PM
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the conclusion is 116...is a good choice?
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Mar 1 2011, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Mar 1 2011, 12:35 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « sample of sigma 10-20mm doesn't really like the distortion. and heard tokina is better with only small difference amount of money. Honestly I know I want 11-16 tokina it just doesn't AF No I mean this body doesn't have AF you need to be picky when buying lens. This post has been edited by Tony Stark: Mar 1 2011, 12:41 PM |
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Mar 1 2011, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Mar 1 2011, 12:41 PM) personally, and again, i kinda like distortion well.. uhmm.. Will consider of buying G lens then. Thanks for the input bro. |
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