can this thing play flac?? why my flac put in can't read?? plus can this thing view chinese song title?? coz i wasn't sure which cause all my cai qin collection to skip all instead of playing it...sifu plz help~

I feel that my ears hurt after use the F1 for about 30 minutes. Maybe my ears not suit to it. I pair it up with my Sony MDR-XB300 with BBE on. Nice, but have to up the volume to 20+

It can play flacs but not 96khz/24bit flacs. I can't read Chinese so no comment. Is your Cai Qin 96khz/24bit flacs?

Can I question what earphone/headphone which u all use to test with the C30?

check the size of ear tips used, the design of earphone is different a bit so may take time to get used to it.

So that is the point......sad~

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Added on March 10, 2011, 9:52 pmcurrently with me is the F1 and my PL30,this saturday when i back my hometown i will try it on my triplefi and PL50

This post has been edited by silver69: Mar 10 2011, 09:52 PM

if not mistaken last time i tried on gumstick with the flacs. when it comes to 96khz/24bit flacs, it just skip to the next song.

What about other full size headphones?
Like HD 650?

Changed to the smallest ear tips, feel better now. I just can't believe my ear hole so small. All the while I'm using the medium size. But my XB300, nice bass.

Hm.. since I don't really know where to start, I'll do it chronologically.

First I tried the F1 while waiting for file transfers to the C30. Tested the F1 with my W902; I guess my stand on it is pretty much the same as clieOS's. Personally Sony HPM-77 is the better IEM for me. In comparison, it's colder, better isolation, better transparency. Little lacked in treble when compared to F1, but with treble boost, in overall it's better than the F1.

File transfer and charge completed, I went on with trying the C30 with Sony MDR-Q68LW, my mostly used headphones. Thought I'd go with this since I use it most of the time.

The navigation pretty much is basic portable player. The only thing new to me is the AB and EQ through long press AB. Had no problem with it.

I was gonna compare the SQ on all players I have, but after turning on BBE out of curiosity, I just don't want to turn it off nor do I feel like using other players.

BBE is sweet. The first song I played with BBE is 'Brave Song' from Angel Beats! (both original and Gldemo ver.) and the sound is just, wow. Especially the vocal.
All of BBE presets to me is a hit and miss on different phones. As an example, with my Q68LW which somewhat lacks in bass but great mids and highs, the BBE fits. However with VIVA, the highs become too much, and the sound isn't fun anymore. With HPM-77 however, VIVA sounds great. So far I believe that there's a BBE setting for every ear/headphone.

Last thing I've to say is that as how I remember, C30 is better than Sony nwz-b142f and nwz-b153f. Both, should I say PMPs that are in the same class to Cube C30 in terms of size, and Cube C30 blows them away in price, SQ, stock earphone, and of course, BBE. (The only thing I prefer from the said Sony PMP is the 3 line browsing instead of 2 in C30, but it's not a big deal anyway. )

Oh yea, can't wait to use HD668B with this.

not seem, is indeed it's great. haha =)

Looks like we got another BBE addict and a fan of the Cube C30!

Gumstick do not play 24bit, same to C30.

C30 is using Class AB amplifier where gumstick are Class A amp. Class AB have less pushing power, so i do not think that it can push well on higher impedance headphone

Gumstick use about 85%-95% of volume to push DT880, so i do not think C30 can do that well as it have less pushing capability.

On the other hand, just read and i wish to correct some point here. Based on the technical design of this mp3 player. Class A amp are supposed to have better design and hence it is actually sound better.

BBE equalizer do not actually improve the sound, but it equalize the sound, as everybody know, Equalizer general make the sound changed, not better, It is always equal, one thing go up, the other thing go down, as layman term.

Jaben has come

difference between class A and class AB is actually class A keep on operating without on n off while operating hence consume more battery though less interference, thus the battery life of Hippo Gumstick is way lower than Cube C30, maybe almost only half of that of Cube C30.

Have u tried Cube C30? would u justify the pushing ability of Cube C30 only after trying it? I can give u special price

BBE equalizer is used in High end Cowon players worth more than Rm1000, it does add colouration to Cube c30 which makes it sound much much better. when it's on, I wonder if Hippo Gumstick is still worth mentioning. Come on, give it a try. U wont regret for the price of Rm170 free postage, u get a much better sounding player than Gumstick. can give u special price oh

Cube with BBE vs Hippo Gumstick = Tiger vs Cat?

This post has been edited by beederbest: Mar 11 2011, 01:27 PM

LOLx....actually i off BBE,for the sake that i don't really like color to my collections....but c30 does shines even BBE off.............
p.s:none(if i not mistaken) of the true audiophile will wish to color their song with eq,at most we will only EQualized some freq if some pairing issue with the system,which ultimate goal is to make FLAT recording,the true enjoyment of the music the way it's meant to be heard by the recorder.

haha. newbie here.


thanks for this.


THere are also many people who simply wish to enjoy music instead of focussing which one is high, mid and low.

And it seems that BBE makes the music really enjoyable.

In audiophile terms, or should I say technically, you're definitely right. To me, BBE is better in terms of fun sounding and something different for the songs that I loved, but was bored with.

Apparently that's what I've heard from audiophiles.

Ultimately, to me, true enjoyment of music... Is that when we listen, we enjoy. Naturally, I won't be happy or enjoy the music just because I think it's how it's supposedly the way it's meant to be heard.

seems you are not welcome me.
I m here as i dont wish to have anybody to be mis-informed.

From your point of view, So the factory shall discontinued their Class A model as it is no point keeping it, Class AB have bettery life and etc? If then why would Hisound Audio price their Class A higher than Class AB. For your informations, the design are different, and you get different grade products.

I have tried this C30 months, or year ago.

Please do not point out, where this BBE used. Do this justified this is a high end settings or things like that? and i m not sure, whether BBE have grade different? It is just a equalizer. But, how can a equalizer make song better? It is one thing up, and one thing down, that's why it called "EQUALizer". I have tried with one friends here, with his cowon player, i think he will totally agree with me, equalizer is something to make yourself happy, not to make yourself to have better sound ?

Sorry i will not wish to have any war here. Just retained this as pure discussion ok?

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Added on March 11, 2011, 3:25 pmYes, you got the correct point, BBE is not something to make sound better, it is a equalizer, to make sound changed. BBE is more on a shortcut of good EQ settings. Enjoy your music

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Added on March 11, 2011, 3:28 pmYes, i will agree C30 is a good player even if the BBE is absent, Everyone have the rights to enjoy their music in the way they wan, in this world, there is no any equalizer settings that can make the player better, but no doubt, some EQ settings do shine in some earphone, but not with every type of music. As such you seen the EQ settings are named by Genre of music.

This post has been edited by yuheng: Mar 11 2011, 03:31 PM

I'm happy u come. it means Cube c30 is something worth mentioning

What's wrong with pointing out where this BBE is used? This means that it uses the technology similar in some high end player. anything wrong?



no problem as long as u dun flame me like in previous post. ayam sked later u ask all Jaben fan come, later I die.


BBE makes music more enjoyable. that is what many of the people want, right?

BTW, price doesn't really justify whether the product is of higher end. It might be due to the seller wanna rip off the buyer by confusing them that a more expensive item simply performs better.

Thanks for letting me to write something here.

I have never use any of my authority if you can seen all my previous reply. I came here as personal LYN (not Jaben) and i do not hold any special power. Because i worked in Jaben store, it make me always have the difficulty to post anywhere, the new user here tend to perceive me to promote this and that. But you can find that, i hardly post, to prevent any misunderstanding. All of the senior member here told me to have same problem, so everybody hardly came here, and it become so cool here. We need more technical ppl to explain to everybody. It is out, let's cut it here.

BBE is not something to mentioned as it do not represent to be higher end. It is used in higher end player, but it do not justify to claim that, this give better sound, as my previous post, it is just to give you a better shortcut on better equalizer. Equalizer are always equal, one thing up and one thing down.

But as you can find from post above, it do not actually make sound more enjoyable, it is different from people to people. Your customer also point out that, BBE is too color to them? Not to flame you but i will admit C30 is a good player, from my ear it is not better than gumstick, and the BBE will not make any player, or any sounds to be tiger and cat? agree?

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Added on March 11, 2011, 3:57 pmIf you can understand what is the design of both player, Hisound Class A and Class AB, you will know the grade is really defined by the price differences.
I have both unit of Class A and Class AB Hisound player at my side, all of my customer told me, Class A is better than Class AB.

This post has been edited by yuheng: Mar 11 2011, 03:57 PM