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Portable Players Cube C30 mp3 music player FAN CLUB, Powerful and affordable? BBE ROCKS !!!!!

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post Feb 16 2011, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Feb 15 2011, 10:41 PM)
Not owning a gumstick I am curious if the EQ settings on it is as interesting as the BBE on the C30?
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EQ on Gumstick is pretty basic. You get the typical rock /pop / etc kind of EQ and a simple User EQ, that's all.
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post Feb 16 2011, 07:16 AM

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And having them on in the Gumstick isn't that good too.
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post Feb 16 2011, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Feb 16 2011, 02:21 AM)
EQ on Gumstick is pretty basic. You get the typical rock /pop / etc kind of EQ and a simple User EQ, that's all.
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thanks for the info.

Whether it is a purist, audiophile or even a layman like me, we can't get away from the use of electronics in the production and reproduction of sounds and music. A purist might say he wants sound as close as possible to the real thing but given the current situation and the state of the technology is in at the present point in time, a large number of musical instruments are no longer purely acoustic. Electronics features in all stages of the production/reproduction from the performance right up to the finished product that is the CD. And with electronics who is to say what is a pure sound produced from a musical instrument or something that is has been electronically sampled. Which is why I am fascinated with this BBE thingy. It is all about the 'good' sound as perceived by the individual with the help of the electronics. I for one am not so obsessed with the 'pure' sound. With the BBE I can maybe say it's not just the 'good' sound but rather the 'fun' sound. I find it highly 'musical'.

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post Feb 16 2011, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Feb 16 2011, 09:27 AM)
thanks for the info.

Whether it is a purist, audiophile or even a layman like me, we can't get away from the use of electronics in the production and reproduction of sounds and music. A purist might say he wants sound as close as possible to the real thing but given the current situation and the state of the technology is in at the present point in time, a large number of musical instruments are no longer purely acoustic. Electronics features in all stages of the production/reproduction from the performance right up to the finished product that is the CD. And with electronics who is to say what is a pure sound produced from a musical instrument or something that is has been electronically sampled. Which is why I am fascinated with this BBE thingy. It is all about the 'good' sound as perceived by the individual with the help of the electronics. I for one am not so obsessed with the 'pure' sound. With the BBE I can maybe say it's not just the 'good' sound but rather the 'fun' sound. I find it highly 'musical'.
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same with me too, i find I enjoy more with a musical iem instead of one which is highly accurate but not so musical.
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post Feb 16 2011, 06:05 PM

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Hehe, same here. biggrin.gif
Musicality puts the fun into music. There's nothing wrong with colouration, if it's done right.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 16 2011, 06:05 PM)
Hehe, same here.  biggrin.gif
Musicality puts the fun into music. There's nothing wrong with colouration, if it's done right.
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Added on March 8, 2011, 11:25 pmtested out the cube c30 for the first time today, without BBE it's similar like the Hippo Gumstick sound, but once BBE is turned on, I say it's like using NOS on racing car.

some say once with BBE, it's like adding kicap to half-boiled egg. if without BBE=eat plain half boiled egg without kicap= NO KICK.

BBE=KICK.

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Hi, where can i buy cube c30 in KL?
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Okay, done.
Without BBE, everything is almost 100% the same as the Gumstick. Even the volume of both are equal(14 on Gummy is 14 on C30). I have the latest FW for the Gumstick. I didn't realize anything that sounds different between the two. If there is, it's pretty hard, and I would probably need better equipment.

But with BBE on in the C30, it was a totally different animal. The sound was more engaging, the vocalist was more intimate, bass was more powerful but not distorted. Electric guitars sounds fuller. It's not natural by any means, but it is a very fun sound. It will be a great retreat from my HM-601 when I desire something different.



Added on March 10, 2011, 6:36 pm
QUOTE(babyshey @ Mar 10 2011, 02:03 PM)
Hi, where can i buy cube c30 in KL?
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so far I do not know if there's any shop selling this from KL cuz it's still quite new n rare in Malaysia.

I can however help u bring in, can get it 2 to 3 weeks time for this batch.

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post Mar 10 2011, 06:43 PM

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Give a trial on the cube. Not get used to the control yet. tongue.gif. This is my first mp3 player, other than iphone.

What i can said is, great player with awesome SQ.
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QUOTE(loonsave @ Mar 10 2011, 06:43 PM)
Give a trial on the cube. Not get used to the control yet. tongue.gif. This is my first mp3 player, other than iphone.

What i can said is, great player with awesome SQ.
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have u tried the BBE? it blast once u on it.

yea for the navigation it does take some time to get used to it. But once u get used to it, It will be pretty easy.

do check out the instruction booklet if find any doubts on the navigation issue. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 10 2011, 07:06 PM

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Hmmm...I tried to max the C30 out and found that beyond 20, the volume lowers immediately. Didn't expect that. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Mar 10 2011, 07:06 PM)
Hmmm...I tried to max the C30 out and found that beyond 20, the volume lowers immediately. Didn't expect that.  tongue.gif
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prevent u from blasting too loud maybe, that is with BBE on or off?
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It was with BBE on. I didn't take notice exactly what volume because I held on to the volume up button. The volume rose quickly and I expected it to be very loud but then suddenly, the volume immediately lowers.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Mar 10 2011, 07:16 PM)
It was with BBE on. I didn't take notice exactly what volume because I held on to the volume up button. The volume rose quickly and I expected it to be very loud but then suddenly, the volume immediately lowers.
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since the BBE already jam up the volume, would u mind try out without the BBE?

last time I faced the problem with Gumstick the volume sometimes very loud at 10 sometimes put 10 like very soft voice only, n it's not due to the influence of surrounding noise or whatever.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Mar 10 2011, 07:06 PM)
Hmmm...I tried to max the C30 out and found that beyond 20, the volume lowers immediately. Didn't expect that.  tongue.gif
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Nope, I have BBE on and have pushed it to beyond 25 without the volume lowering by itself. Could be you have tweaked some setting on the C30.
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I dunno, haven't checked. I did a reset on the settings and I'll try again.
Or maybe it's holding down the volume up button that activates that 'protection system'?


Added on March 10, 2011, 7:31 pmOh wait, it's at 26 that it starts to lower. So I guess it's normal?


Added on March 10, 2011, 7:33 pmHoly crap it's loud!!
Yeah I turned off BBE and the volume barrier isn't activated.
I didn't go to 31, only got to 29 and I pulled my IEM out. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Mar 10 2011, 07:30 PM)
I dunno, haven't checked. I did a reset on the settings and I'll try again.
Or maybe it's holding down the volume up button that activates that 'protection system'?


Added on March 10, 2011, 7:31 pmOh wait, it's at 26 that it starts to lower. So I guess it's normal?


Added on March 10, 2011, 7:33 pmHoly crap it's loud!!
Yeah I turned off BBE and the volume barrier isn't activated.
I didn't go to 31, only got to 29 and I pulled my IEM out.  tongue.gif
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maybe cube company is responsible enough to consider the safety of consumer's ears that's why they set a volume barrier at 25 as max when the BBE is on since BBE already jam up a lot of the volume? rolleyes.gif

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Yeah. Imagine the volume with BBE on and without the limit.
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So without BBE, the C30 sounds very much like the Gumstick?
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QUOTE(MrJinggles @ Mar 10 2011, 09:03 PM)
So without BBE, the C30 sounds very much like the Gumstick?
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it's the same to my ear. so it does to tunertoobe's ear. if do a blind test, I doubt can easily differentiate between the two. But once with the BBE on, it's a different story, different animal if wanna compared with gumstick. A tiger VS a cat? U need to test it out only u know what I'm talking about.

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