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 Nokia and Microsoft enter strategic alliance !, Symbian will be phased out, Meego stays

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post Feb 11 2011, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Feb 11 2011, 04:16 PM)
WP7 and Meego are in conflict, if they go with WP7, you can expect meego to "die". As a platform, nokia cannot have 2 competing products, they have to choose one. Sadly, it seems like they chose the inferior platform sad.gif
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MeeGo = open source.
It won't die one. xdadevs will embrace it. brows.gif

QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 11 2011, 04:35 PM)
Wrong move.. Should have choose Android.

Well what to do, the current new boss was ex-microsoft...so he choose to alliance wth his own ex-boss.
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MeeGo is based on linux and can run Android apps. I say i'll be a good competitor to Android.
But we'll see how it goes.
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post Feb 12 2011, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Feb 11 2011, 11:24 PM)
I'll believe a WP7 Nokia phone will be a success only when it happens. I have too many doubts about that coming true now.
Reasons:
- WP7 is still immature, missing a lot of features (e.g. copy and paste, multi-tasking) that exist in iOS and Android.
- Nokia has said they'll need time to make a WP7 phone. I expect earliest you can see one at the end of this year. But that time Android would be entrenched even further with more high end phones and Ice Cream Sandwich released.
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post Feb 13 2011, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 12 2011, 09:55 PM)
how the fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuu i dunno about that... i'm linux user also... waffak..

also oracle suing stuff also i know...

we debate later.. i got something to do.
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gogo2, my advice go learn about the thing you want to bash about first. Experience it first hand IMO.

But still due to the lack of WP7 adoption. it's probably a NoWin (pun intended) for Nokia and Microsoft.


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post Feb 13 2011, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 13 2011, 09:19 AM)
Learn what? I think you and another guy got problem with Nokia and Microsoft. Lack of WP7 is because
lackaidasical attitude of other manufacturer towards WP7.

Probably you should learn more about iOS and Android before debating with me. Adui.. you guys are weird.
Already lose argument but keep on asking people to learn.

Which part of my comment you dun understand pls ask la. Dun make yourself look like fool.



Added on February 13, 2011, 9:28 am
Adoption level of user now does not mean that it will be the same when Nokia come out with WP7. The reason WP7 is low because
current handphone manufacture do their best for Android. Nothing much being done for WP7. That's why when Nokia come out with
WP7 device, it'll be so awesome that WP7 uptake will be like iOS.

Severity of failed venture means failed venture la. You already put past tense in it.

Yeah, I know you guys butthurt. But that does not means you have the right to bash the marriage.

Brand survival? If Nokia went for pasar malam OS like Android, there won't be differentiation. It'll become another Android
phone. Nokia brand will not be associated with Android and thus the brand will not survive.

Nokia know that WP7 offer the best survival smile.gif
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Android i know it personally, iOS, i my dad got 3GS and sis got iPod Touch 4G. So I kinda know how those OS's roll. tongue.gif


I quote myself on this:

QUOTE(41LY45 @ Feb 13 2011, 02:40 AM)
It's definitely diff, heck better than WinMo 6.5, but they are not marketing the thing good enuf.
Heck, even released the thing half-baked (no copy paste and multitasking).

Unless they innovate, they are as good as dead IMO.
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Added on February 13, 2011, 12:20 pm
QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Feb 13 2011, 11:47 AM)
+5.
+100.

Nokia is taking a huge gamble about this step. New things surely being hammered by critics until they prove that they can bear good fruits, then it will silenced by the success.

I really hope that Microsoft can modify the WP7 radically.
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Hopefully, or else they are goners.

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QUOTE(shogun_125 @ Feb 13 2011, 02:37 PM)
pity intel with Meego, which is does'nt  go ..
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AMD also rite? hmm.gif

They also join forces to make MeeGo go iirc.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Feb 13 2011, 02:49 PM)
yes AMD as well.but its too early to conclude everything.lets see tomorrow MWC2011 at Barcelona.
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True, have to wait for MWC. Hopefully i'll go along just fine.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 13 2011, 03:35 PM)
You're wrong. Nokia is actually owning half of WP7. And WP7 will include Ovi and Symbian port. So means Nokia can change
anything they want with WP7.

I don't understand why you guys don't understand how big changes WP7 will be made by Nokia. I find it weird.
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We're just skeptical of the degree of changes that nokia is allowed to make on WP7.

As we all saw on HTC's line of WP7, the did not Sense the thing up. (Like they did with everything else.)

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So yeah, that's my concern right there.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 13 2011, 04:06 PM)
How can you compare HTC a handphone maker to alliance of Nokia and Microsoft?  doh.gif that's so wrong.

U see such announcement between HTC and Microsoft when they come out with WP7? No. Because its just normal deal between software and hardware maker.

This is alliance between Nokia and Microsoft. This is gang up. This is SPPARRTAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Added on February 13, 2011, 4:12 pm
What to do? After going with Symbian so long and not making an inroad, Nokia need to do something
drastic. You go around ask people what they think of Symbian. Bad impression. N8 symbian might be
good. But unfortunately, it is a dead OS as far as market is concern.

The promise to Symbian developer is during when market still good for Symbian (although both iOS and
Android around). But end of last year until now, the Android gain so much market share that Nokia
need to jump off the burning platform like MeeGo and Symbian.

This is because WP7 is proven OS. Its good OS. Some said better than iOS and defintely better than
Android.

Sometimes, you have to break some promise if you're in dire state. When you're dying, you don't cling
to dying platform. You have to jump. You have to so something drastic.
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We'll see how that goes. tongue.gif

MeeGo ain't a buring platform mang!!! Symbian is!!! whistling.gif

It's just "slow" as Elop said.

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Feb 13 2011, 04:30 PM)
@gogo2,  lol everything they do now is justifiable to you. Like literally, every action. Even what you call 'androidfags' also got tons of dissatisfaction towards Android and Google, but obviously reasonable ones.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Feb 13 2011, 04:33 PM)
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RUN!
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Feb 14 2011, 04:31 AM)
ok.apart of apps,standardized hardware,software providing better,easier environment for developer,im very much concern about features.compare side by side between WP7,Android and symbian.obviously,wp7,shakehead.gif
practically,i need video call,plug and play OTG(sync with zune,itunes,samsung kies etc is troublesome),gps(obviously symbian owned the crowd,android is not bad)...
wp7 seems like doesnt suit me but it doesnt mean it not suit for the others who concern more in other area.smile.gif

Add on,transfer file via bluetooth is another point which is very important for me.
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True that, as a former symbian user, I find that Android cater it's users with the same former functionalities as a Symbian phone does. nod.gif nod.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 14 2011, 01:05 PM)

That's so wrong. After Nokia come out with WP7, you'll realise it looks like Symbian because it has Ovi maps and other feature from Symbian OS.

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What you say cannot be confirmed w/o valid sources.

Anyway, they already too slowpoke. Many already jump ship (me included). tongue.gif
I don't want something to look like a Symbian, i want the features in a better UI with less performance issues.

Thus, i picked Android. whistling.gif

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