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post Feb 26 2011, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 26 2011, 08:42 PM)
Oic, understand liao, thx for the explaination, but the wide lens cnt zoom in n out thn ma oni cn do this function ?
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fixed focal length got advantage...most of the time, the images will be sharper...depends on how u use it, it can have many usage.. rclxms.gif

but, firstly, max out ur usage on kitlens..must shoot more..hehe..try liao and u cant achieve something, then only u ask whether is the hardware limitation of urs, or lack of skill to achieve that thing..dont be a gearhead..buy best body + get CZ lens..at the end, photos only so-so..then talk cock alot like a pro..but no photos presented.. brows.gif

and try to pickup some post processing skills...it is essential to digital photography nowadays..90% of the superb photos on the market have some processing on it already..it is more important, when u have only entry lenses or kitlens or noob lens..post processing can help u enhance the photo to look better..

This post has been edited by ahpingko: Feb 26 2011, 09:07 PM
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post Feb 26 2011, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Feb 26 2011, 09:04 PM)
fixed focal length got advantage...most of the time, the images will be sharper...depends on how u use it, it can have many usage.. rclxms.gif

but, firstly, max out ur usage on kitlens..must shoot more..hehe..try liao and u cant achieve something, then only u ask whether is the hardware limitation of urs, or lack of skill to achieve that thing..dont be a gearhead..buy best body + get CZ lens..at the end, photos only so-so..then talk cock alot like a pro..but no photos presented.. brows.gif

and try to pickup some post processing skills...it is essential to digital photography nowadays..90% of the superb photos on the market have some processing on it already..it is more important, when u have only entry lenses or kitlens or noob lens..post processing can help u enhance the photo to look better..
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I terasa kaw kaw lol..

Anyway, Post-processing is quite good actually but for people that are really busy, one shot one kill technique is rather better.

Summore need quite powerful hardware to PP~
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post Feb 26 2011, 09:44 PM

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35mm is not wide la on APS-C. doh.gif

it's a 'normal' length focal length(same focal length as our eyes).
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post Feb 26 2011, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Feb 26 2011, 09:04 PM)
fixed focal length got advantage...most of the time, the images will be sharper...depends on how u use it, it can have many usage.. rclxms.gif

but, firstly, max out ur usage on kitlens..must shoot more..hehe..try liao and u cant achieve something, then only u ask whether is the hardware limitation of urs, or lack of skill to achieve that thing..dont be a gearhead..buy best body + get CZ lens..at the end, photos only so-so..then talk cock alot like a pro..but no photos presented.. brows.gif

and try to pickup some post processing skills...it is essential to digital photography nowadays..90% of the superb photos on the market have some processing on it already..it is more important, when u have only entry lenses or kitlens or noob lens..post processing can help u enhance the photo to look better..
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ok, any idea wat else the kit lens can do..??
i am having prbm using A,S mode la...duno hw to use...
whn happen this i will change to M....thn set wat i wan thn shoot...if not good i set it again...
coz if i set A thn oni A can be adjust...

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post Feb 26 2011, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 26 2011, 09:37 PM)
I terasa kaw kaw lol..

Anyway, Post-processing is quite good actually but for people that are really busy, one shot one kill technique is rather better.

Summore need quite powerful hardware to PP~
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u gearhead meh..lol.. brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 26 2011, 09:44 PM)
35mm is not wide la on APS-C. doh.gif

it's a 'normal' length focal length(same focal length as our eyes).
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err..i just give example only la...35mm F1.8 somehow is wider than 50mm prime ma..lol..for me, it is wide prime liao..lol..i dont care is APSC or full frame..35mm just 35mm...better than 50mm.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 26 2011, 09:52 PM)
ok, any idea wat else the kit lens can do..??
i am having prbm using A,S mode la...duno hw to use...
whn happen this i will change to M....thn set wat i wan thn shoot...if not good i set it again...
coz if i set A thn oni A can be adjust...
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like this:

-when u wan to get background blur, u will tend to use A mode..more..it is the same, just stick to low A, if u wan to shoot portrait...normal usage, i just stick to F8..i mean outdoor shooting la..for landscape, u can go up to F11..if u wan...just try it out..for myself, when on kitlens, i usually go A mode..F8..when on prime, i usually F2.2..thats all..haha..anyway, just experiment it on the spot..

-when u wan to shoot slow shutter, like smooth silky waterfall or water surface or light trail...use S mode...then try put 10sec - 30 sec..btw, this normally u cant use on daytime..hardly la i mean if without ND filter(which can enable u to use slower shutter)..for myself, i never use this mode...lol..if i wan to use slow shutter, normally i in the A mode too...i will turn to highest A..and see which is the slowest shutter i can use..hehe..coz, when u wan to use slow shutter, mostly u will want to go as slow as u can..so just bump up the A and use minimum ISO..u will be at the slowest shutter possible at that time(with correct exposure)..

well, at least this is wat i am doing la..i just share oni..correct me if i am wrong.. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 26 2011, 10:45 PM

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lol no offense but, thinking that a 35mm(on APS-C) still doesn't make it a wide prime, although it is wider than a 50mm prime. wide primes are those below 35mm le.. 24mm,28mm or 16mm for that matter...

i scared the newbie will get confused of what is wide focal length,what is ultra wide, what is normal , what is telephoto...etc..

sorry ya no offense blush.gif
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post Feb 26 2011, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 26 2011, 10:45 PM)
lol no offense but, thinking that a 35mm(on APS-C) still doesn't make it a wide prime, although it is wider than a 50mm prime. wide primes are those below 35mm le.. 24mm,28mm or 16mm for that matter...

i scared the newbie will get confused of what is wide focal length,what is ultra wide, what is normal , what is telephoto...etc..

sorry ya no offense blush.gif
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For APS-C .. I think should grade on that xD:

Ultra Wide : 10mm ~15mm
Wide: 16mm~28mm
Standard: 30mm~40mm
Portrait: 50mm
Portrait(Telephoto): 85mm~135mm

@ahpingko 35mm on APS-C is not a wide angle prime, instead it should be call "Standard/Normal" lens; that have the closest focal range as our human eye :/

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Feb 26 2011, 10:19 PM)
u gearhead meh..lol.. brows.gif  brows.gif
err..i just give example only la...35mm F1.8 somehow is wider than 50mm prime ma..lol..for me, it is wide prime liao..lol..i dont care is APSC or full frame..35mm just 35mm...better than 50mm.. laugh.gif
like this:

-when u wan to get background blur, u will tend to use A mode..more..it is the same, just stick to low A, if u wan to shoot portrait...normal usage, i just stick to F8..i mean outdoor shooting la..for landscape, u can go up to F11..if u wan...just try it out..for myself, when on kitlens, i usually go A mode..F8..when on prime, i usually F2.2..thats all..haha..anyway, just experiment it on the spot..

-when u wan to shoot slow shutter, like smooth silky waterfall or water surface or light trail...use S mode...then try put 10sec - 30 sec..btw, this normally u cant use on daytime..hardly la i mean if without ND filter(which can enable u to use slower shutter)..for myself, i never use this mode...lol..if i wan to use slow shutter, normally i in the A mode too...i will turn to highest A..and see which is the slowest shutter i can use..hehe..coz, when u wan to use slow shutter, mostly u will want to go as slow as u can..so just bump up the A and use minimum ISO..u will be at the slowest shutter possible at that time(with correct exposure)..

well, at least this is wat i am doing la..i just share oni..correct me if i am wrong.. biggrin.gif
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suddenly u share a lot wif me...thx for the sharing..i will try it wat u have said 2molo....
u shoot more big object wif near distance ?
or shoot small object wif near distance ??
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can i knw hw can i save some of my setting in the cam??
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post Feb 26 2011, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 26 2011, 10:45 PM)
lol no offense but, thinking that a 35mm(on APS-C) still doesn't make it a wide prime, although it is wider than a 50mm prime. wide primes are those below 35mm le.. 24mm,28mm or 16mm for that matter...

i scared the newbie will get confused of what is wide focal length,what is ultra wide, what is normal , what is telephoto...etc..

sorry ya no offense blush.gif
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okok...i know is it not wide prime la..haha..for me, it is just wider than my current prime..but it is good to learn proper term to use.. tongue.gif ..thx wor..

QUOTE(wingster @ Feb 26 2011, 10:53 PM)
For APS-C .. I think should grade on that xD:

Ultra Wide : 10mm ~15mm
Wide: 16mm~28mm
Standard: 30mm~40mm
Portrait: 50mm
Portrait(Telephoto): 85mm~135mm

@ahpingko 35mm on APS-C is not a wide angle prime, instead it should be call "Standard/Normal" lens; that have the closest focal range as our human eye :/
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okok..noted!..^^..i wan buy la..lol..35mm!!..but no budget for now..i need earn 1st..no more money from parents..instead i should give them.. biggrin.gif ..

QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 26 2011, 10:53 PM)
suddenly u share a lot wif me...thx for the sharing..i will try it wat u have said 2molo....
u shoot more big object wif near distance ?
or shoot small object wif near distance ??
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nola..just sharing only...i also noob...learn from try-error only..and only got noob gears.. laugh.gif ..that question, i also dono how to ans...see situation..lol..no specific preference like that..

QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 26 2011, 11:10 PM)
can i knw hw can i save some of my setting in the cam??
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err, ur setting cant be save..but it will remain there..if u have not changed it since your last use..
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post Feb 26 2011, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Feb 26 2011, 11:17 PM)
okok...i know is it not wide prime la..haha..for me, it is just wider than my current prime..but it is good to learn proper term to use.. tongue.gif ..thx wor..
okok..noted!..^^..i wan buy la..lol..35mm!!..but no budget for now..i need earn 1st..no more money from parents..instead i should give them.. biggrin.gif ..
nola..just sharing only...i also noob...learn from try-error only..and only got noob gears.. laugh.gif ..that question, i also dono how to ans...see situation..lol..no specific preference like that..
err, ur setting cant be save..but it will remain there..if u have not changed it since your last use..
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oic, sometime i refer back those pic i wan eh setting...thn set it bek, sometimes will forget...haha
hw much is the wide lens ?
wide lens got normal wide, ultra widee, and prime wide , am i right ??
how to see..?
kit lens is 18-55.
my zoom lens is 55-200.
so the wide lens is how wan..??
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QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 26 2011, 11:23 PM)
oic, sometime i refer back those pic i wan eh setting...thn set it bek, sometimes will forget...haha
hw much is the wide lens ?
wide lens got normal wide, ultra widee, and prime wide , am i right ??
how to see..?
kit lens is 18-55.
my zoom lens is 55-200.
so the wide lens is how wan..??
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*run far far*

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post Feb 27 2011, 12:06 AM

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Sony indicates all future Alpha models will include translucent mirrors.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/26/sony-in...de-translucent/

does it means future A900 replacement also will be DSLT?
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Feb 27 2011, 12:06 AM)
Sony indicates all future Alpha models will include translucent mirrors.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/26/sony-in...de-translucent/

does it means future A900 replacement also will be DSLT?
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Very likely yea wakaka.

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post Feb 27 2011, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 26 2011, 11:36 PM)
Tokina 11-16 f2.8 tongue.gif

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wat do u mean run far far ???
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QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 27 2011, 12:24 AM)
wat do u mean run far far ???
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Lol. Attempt to poison people must run one. Later people throw things at your head haha..

No la. Its just a joke.
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post Feb 27 2011, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 27 2011, 12:26 AM)
Lol. Attempt to poison people must run one. Later people throw things at your head haha..

No la. Its just a joke.
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haha, so the lens is good ?? ultra wide lens ??
wat effect can the lens do ??

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got my a580+16105+BG. rclxm9.gif

In the end got 16105 rather than 1750. Cuz uncle chin say after few yrs 3rd pt coating will start to come off. He said if you have flash, 16105 and 1750 is about the same alrd. nod.gif

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