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post Feb 14 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(arc1414 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:09 AM)
Okies..
Thanks again for the recommendation.. Might my pocket going big hole..
Btw where should i head to buy? i noe some shop might not carry so exp lens or if they carry do sell very exp.. where i can get it reasonable price?
Im from KL  notworthy.gif
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normally those of us with a budget will look for one in Alphanatics.com 1st... else, if you're looking for new lenses, u can either go shop around in BB Plaza (the one next to Low Yat - not lowyat.net) or straight go find Uncle Chin aka Zaloon in Pudu Plaza


Added on February 14, 2011, 11:14 am
QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:12 AM)
super sharp as prioriity second will be the longest range~ travel friendly never thought of it untill last night...
for 70400 the biggest problem is i cant hold still when it go to 400mm even i try to hold my breath, from the OVF it looks shaky after the shoot.
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in that case, go for the 70300G.. 'quite' affordable

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post Feb 14 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:00 AM)
although i may not use up to 400 all the time but sometimes more is better than less??? will anyone regret after buying 70400 and jump to 70 300? kind of love the silver look of 70400 XDD but still back to the problem do i need that heavy thingy go travel around?==
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QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:12 AM)
super sharp as prioriity second will be the longest range~ travel friendly never thought of it untill last night...
for 70400 the biggest problem is i cant hold still when it go to 400mm even i try to hold my breath, from the OVF it looks shaky after the shoot.
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You must first identify your need for any lens of any focal length. Having more does not necessarily mean better. Ask yourself these questions:

1. How often do you shoot in telephoto focal ranges (more than 100mm) ?

2. Why do you need (as opposed to want) a telephoto lens in the range of 300mm and above (do you do birding? shoot animals in their natural habitat? shoot sports?)

The 70-300mm and 70-400mm lenses are strictly for use outdoors in the open and for long range subjects. You will not find many uses for them shooting people inside buildings. They have considerable weight and if you don't identify your needs for one then you might just find the lens sitting inside your drybox more than attached to your camera. A paperweight that costs more than RM 3k is not a wise financial move.
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post Feb 14 2011, 11:27 AM

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kuro0314: What exactly do you intend to shoot with the 70-400mm?
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post Feb 14 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:12 AM)
super sharp as prioriity second will be the longest range~ travel friendly never thought of it untill last night...
for 70400 the biggest problem is i cant hold still when it go to 400mm even i try to hold my breath, from the OVF it looks shaky after the shoot.
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Your Alpha's Super Steady Shot reduces vibrations only in the captured image. Check the pictures you take in playback mode and see if they also have camera shake. If not then your hands are good enough lo biggrin.gif But I agree, it can be difficult to compose the shot with all that shake... And I really wish Sony put SSS into the NEX cameras! mad.gif

BTW your font and bad typing makes your posts very difficult to read...
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post Feb 14 2011, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 14 2011, 11:27 AM)
kuro0314: What exactly do you intend to shoot with the 70-400mm?
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hahaha, if his vacations are mostly at beaches, then i absolutely understand tongue.gif
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post Feb 14 2011, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Feb 14 2011, 11:24 AM)
You must first identify your need for any lens of any focal length. Having more does not necessarily mean better. Ask yourself these questions:

1. How often do you shoot in telephoto focal ranges (more than 100mm) ?

2. Why do you need (as opposed to want) a telephoto lens in the range of 300mm and above (do you do birding? shoot animals in their natural habitat? shoot sports?)

The 70-300mm and 70-400mm lenses are strictly for use outdoors in the open and for long range subjects. You will not find many uses for them shooting people inside buildings. They have considerable weight and if you don't identify your needs for one then you might just find the lens sitting inside your drybox more than attached to your camera. A paperweight that costs more than RM 3k is not a wise financial move.
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55200 is my current tele, i only use it during travel.. other wise i seldom take out and most of the time use 1855~
i do shoot animals but not in their natural habitat... so traveling as prioty go for 70300?


Added on February 14, 2011, 11:40 am
QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 14 2011, 11:27 AM)
kuro0314: What exactly do you intend to shoot with the 70-400mm?
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erm anything without walking to near ~


Added on February 14, 2011, 11:41 am
QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 14 2011, 11:34 AM)
hahaha, if his vacations are mostly at beaches, then i absolutely understand tongue.gif
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hahaha never thought of it XD but with that obvious lens ppl will noe im stalking them la XD


Added on February 14, 2011, 11:43 am
QUOTE(puppydogpoo @ Feb 14 2011, 11:32 AM)
Your Alpha's Super Steady Shot reduces vibrations only in the captured image. Check the pictures you take in playback mode and see if they also have camera shake. If not then your hands are good enough lo biggrin.gif But I agree, it can be difficult to compose the shot with all that shake... And I really wish Sony put SSS into the NEX cameras!  mad.gif

BTW your font and bad typing makes your posts very difficult to read...
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may b have to try for few more shoots coz i only shoot 4-5 pic only 2 are clear and not shaky pic~ sorry for the font thingy XD

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post Feb 14 2011, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:38 AM)
55200 is my current tele, i only use it during travel.. other wise i seldom take out and most of the time use 1855~
i do shoot animals but not in their natural habitat... so traveling as prioty go for 70300?
and WHY u opt to go for 70300, or 70400? if you REALLY wish up upgrade your lenses, why not upgrade your kitlens instead? Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 perhaps?


Added on February 14, 2011, 11:49 am
QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:38 AM)

hahaha never thought of it XD but with that obvious lens ppl will noe im stalking them la XD
maybe u can use the 70400, then set up a hide and camouflage it so ppl wont know you're stalking

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post Feb 14 2011, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 14 2011, 11:44 AM)
and WHY u opt to go for 70300, or 70400? if you REALLY wish up upgrade your lenses, why not upgrade your kitlens instead? Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 perhaps?


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maybe u can use the 70400, then set up a hide and camouflage it so ppl wont know you're stalking
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i intend to upgrade both 1 G lens n 1 zeiss... travel quite often so i wanted to upgrade the current tele... 55200 is too slow for the focus... super beh tahan it =="
no la i don really stalk ppl XDD
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post Feb 14 2011, 12:07 PM

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kuro, you have your canon 70-200 L why buying duplicates?
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kuro0314 : If your 55-200mm stays off your camera most of the time then the same can be said to either the 70-300mm or the 70-400mm that you are going to buy. You are just not going to use it much.

Things WILL get worse for the new lens as it would be considerably HEAVIER than your 55-200mm lens to lug around. Imagine going out 10 times and lugging the heavy telephoto with you and then come home to find that you have used the lens to take only 5 pictures! Guess where the lens will end up the next time you go out? Yup! The dry box.

My honest advise to you:

If you have that amount of cash to spend and is itching to spend it then go for the 16-35mm Zeiss (if you are on APS-C) or the 24-70mm Zeiss (if you are on Full Frame). Forget about telephoto for now.

If you die, die also must have a telephoto lens then the 85mm Zeiss (for APS-C) or the 135mm Zeiss (for FF) will ease your gear lust and prove more usable than a 70-300mm/70-400mm lens.
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post Feb 14 2011, 12:13 PM

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TUDIAAAA..... Zeiss poison..... es-starto!
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post Feb 14 2011, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Feb 14 2011, 12:07 PM)
kuro, you have your canon 70-200 L why buying duplicates?
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my brother using canon, im a sony user XD
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post Feb 14 2011, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Feb 14 2011, 12:17 PM)
my brother using canon, im a sony user XD
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very nice. an average joe would have gone canon as well for lens sharing. since you can afford all, i would say go for it. buy all those lens, it would be beneficial for Sony community if there is any TT for lens poisoning from you.

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and why would you suggest 16-35mm on ASPC ah? 16-80mm no good?
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post Feb 14 2011, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Feb 14 2011, 12:10 PM)
kuro0314 : If your 55-200mm stays off your camera most of the time then the same can be said to either the 70-300mm or the 70-400mm that you are going to buy. You are just not going to use it much.

Things WILL get worse for the new lens as it would be considerably HEAVIER than your 55-200mm lens to lug around. Imagine going out 10 times and lugging the heavy telephoto with you and then come home to find that you have used the lens to take only 5 pictures! Guess where the lens will end up the next time you go out? Yup! The dry box.

My honest advise to you:

If you have that amount of cash to spend and is itching to spend it then go for the 16-35mm Zeiss (if you are on APS-C) or the 24-70mm Zeiss (if you are on Full Frame). Forget about telephoto for now.

If you die, die also must have a telephoto lens then the 85mm Zeiss (for APS-C) or the 135mm Zeiss (for FF) will ease your gear lust and prove more usable than a 70-300mm/70-400mm lens.
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one of the reason i seldom using 55200 coz the focus speed is super annoying and slow. im not sure for the others but mine has this slow n gear sound problem.
anyway thanks for the advice i will considerable think about it =)


Added on February 14, 2011, 12:23 pm
QUOTE(ahtiven @ Feb 14 2011, 12:19 PM)
very nice. an average joe would have gone canon as well for lens sharing. since you can afford all, i would say go for it. buy all those lens, it would be beneficial for Sony community if there is any TT for lens poisoning from you.

@shootkk
and why would you suggest 16-35mm on ASPC ah? 16-80mm no good?
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im average too XP just that each of us have our own believes in different brand. try to find a canon mount adapter on sony body but couldnt find any. XP

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post Feb 14 2011, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Feb 14 2011, 12:19 PM)
very nice. an average joe would have gone canon as well for lens sharing. since you can afford all, i would say go for it. buy all those lens, it would be beneficial for Sony community if there is any TT for lens poisoning from you.

@shootkk
and why would you suggest 16-35mm on ASPC ah? 16-80mm no good?
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16-80 is good, but the 16-35 has constant aperture and is BETTER... whichever way you see it..
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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Feb 14 2011, 12:19 PM)
very nice. an average joe would have gone canon as well for lens sharing. since you can afford all, i would say go for it. buy all those lens, it would be beneficial for Sony community if there is any TT for lens poisoning from you.

@shootkk
and why would you suggest 16-35mm on ASPC ah? 16-80mm no good?
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if you get the 16-35mm,you already have UWA for FF later on...kill two birds with one stone... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 14 2011, 12:26 PM)
16-80 is good, but the 16-35 has constant aperture and is BETTER... whichever way you see it..
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faster and constant aperture. but it will be like 35mm-50mm on an ASPC right? and 24mm is much more affordable prime which is 36mm equivalent.

but you have 2 and a half 16-80mm for 1 16-35mm, not really cost effective lol.

QUOTE(hazril @ Feb 14 2011, 12:33 PM)
if you get the 16-35mm,you already have UWA for FF later on...kill two birds with one stone... biggrin.gif
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oh yah... that explains why i wasnt impressed on the 11-18 mounted on a55 last week. i need to try it on a FF to appreciate its full glory! too bad i dont own any FF.

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Feb 14 2011, 12:45 PM)
faster and constant aperture. but it will be like 35mm-50mm on an ASPC right? and 24mm is much more affordable prime which is 36mm equivalent.

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Nope. That's 24-50mm full frame equivalent for a 16-35mm on an APS-C. A very usable range though most may consider it a bit short on the focal range. With 24mm wide(FF equiv.) you will hunger no more for wider shots like you do using an 18mm kit lens. With a 50mm (FF equiv.) you will find that most of the framing is already done for you. All you need to do is just adjust your compo a little and snap. Very good for streets and portraits and small groups of up to 3 people.

Since the 16-35mm ends at 35mm (thus making it an almost 50mm FF equiv.) it will not have the problem like the kit lenses that ends in 55mm (with a 82.5mm FF equiv.) that is not here and not there focal length causing frustration.

Plus if and when you upgrade FF you get the UWA bonus for free!!
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QUOTE(kuro0314 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:55 AM)
i intend to upgrade both 1 G lens n 1 zeiss... travel quite often so i wanted to upgrade the current tele... 55200 is too slow for the focus... super beh tahan it =="
no la i don really stalk ppl XDD
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since you use kit lens most of the time n would like to have fast focusing, have you thought of CZ 24-70 SSM??? drool.gif

btw, is Sigma HSM comparable to SSM in Sony?
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i hope the sigma 80-150 f2.8 is available for the sony mount though biggrin.gif

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