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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Konchesky, Ayala left, Torres next?

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madmoz
post Jan 29 2011, 04:52 PM

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Torres must feel crap at the moment. - reputation and image totally ruined. Could have handled things better perhaps?
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post Jan 29 2011, 04:53 PM

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Somehow, I think maybe it is good if Chelsea loans Torres for awhile, but no buying options of course.

They need a good striker now, and Torres may improve if he trains at other grounds. And Liverpool will get the benefits next season. But Reds may have to live without Liverpool for some period.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 29 2011, 04:52 PM)
Torres must feel crap at the moment. - reputation and image totally ruined. Could have handled things better perhaps?
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Thats the thing. Him officially putting in a transfer request means him burning the bridges. For him to do this, he must have realized that there was no turning back. I dont understand why he decided to do this in the middle of the season and with 3 days to go till end of the window. With us trying to secure other transfers and now suddenly Chelsea coming in this late in the window seems like ambush to me. Surely he could see that that it will leave us in a disarray. Something must have pushed him over the edge for him to decide that we're no longer the club he once fell in love with. He needs to say soemthing about this.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:11 PM

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there will be some positive impact from this request...........

hopefully Comolli and KD can spot it b4 the window closes and i believe Torres will stay atleast till the season ends and by then a lot can change including his mindset if we can qualify for CL next season
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 29 2011, 05:08 PM)
Thats the thing. Him officially putting in a transfer request means him burning the bridges. For him to do this, he must have realized that there was no turning back. I dont understand why he decided to do this in the middle of the season and with 3 days to go till end of the window. With us trying to secure other transfers and now suddenly Chelsea coming in this late in the window seems like ambush to me. Surely he could see that that it will leave us in a disarray. Something must have pushed him over the edge for him to decide that we're no longer the club he once fell in love with. He needs to say soemthing about this.
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Doesnt take a rocket scientist to see why actually...

When you are one of the top 10 strikers in the world.
When any of the big clubs in the world could always use a player like him.
When you won the WC and EC but nothing at club level.
When you are 27 and the average "peak" age is now.
When the club you are in cannot afford to compete in any tournament or leagues to win.

Then you'll know why. At best, Torres has maybe 5 really good years left in him. When you have 5 years left on your legs, and rebuilding takes 2-3 years, it's time to move on.

He can love the club, or love the trophies.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:14 PM

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Drogba is 32 now, that y chelsea wants torres as an earlier replacement.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 29 2011, 03:22 PM)
Its different. Aguero didnt push for the transfer. Torres, on the other hand, has submitted a transfer request which affects our valuation of the player. We can and have denied the transfer request but the question is whether or not we are incline to keep the player ? Can Torres be persuaded to stay and play for us for the remaining games ? He's on high payroll and be stupid of us to bench him. IF the situation is beyond repair then i feel we have little choice but to sell him - at the price that Chelsea are willing to offer.
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I think you missed out a point that Torres ONLY SUBMITTED that after the chelsea bid was turned down... In other words, my point is, before this, RA undervalues Torres and made sickening bid...
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(radio_head @ Jan 29 2011, 05:01 PM)
Hah! Suprised it took this long.

Torres is a world class player, on his day he can destroy teams single handedly. Sadly he is in Liverpool. Torres looks like a player who is now wondering why he wasted the best years of his career in Liverpool. What has he won at a club level? Nothing. Nuts. He's 27, he can be a legend in any club he goes to....and at the same time, win trophies. A player of his calibre, wasted to remain at Liverpool.

Even our "shite" players Evans and Gibson have won trophies. Can you honestly see Liverpool winning BPL/UCL anytime soon before he retires? Hah, fat chance with the UCL qualifications, let alone winning it. For the players sake I hope he leaves. If he stays, he'll go down as a great player who never won anything at club level.
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This is the kind of fan i always respected. An understanding fan.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(liez @ Jan 29 2011, 05:14 PM)
This is the kind of fan i always respected. An understanding fan.
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You mean an "understanding" RIVALS fans, no? lol. laugh.gif doh.gif

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I guess contract has not much value since it can be turned down anytime and $$$ can solve problems ... at least turning down a verbal agreement cost your own reputation ... cant buy reputation with money ..

Anyway, forgive torres and hope that suarez is the right choice for us
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(radio_head @ Jan 29 2011, 05:12 PM)
Doesnt take a rocket scientist to see why actually...

When you are one of the top 10 strikers in the world.
When any of the big clubs in the world could always use a player like him.
When you won the WC and EC but nothing at club level.
When you are 27 and the average "peak" age is now.
When the club you are in cannot afford to compete in any tournament or leagues to win.

Then you'll know why. At best, Torres has maybe 5 really good years left in him. When you have 5 years left on your legs, and rebuilding takes 2-3 years, it's time to move on.

He can love the club, or love the trophies.
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So do it next season or before this season's kick off. Why leave in the middle of the season when we're doing our best to improve the team. He's bailing out, we can all agree on that. But at least have the decency, to help the team that pays you your wages to see through the season. Is that too much to ask for these days ?
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(liez @ Jan 29 2011, 05:14 PM)
This is the kind of fan i always respected. An understanding fan.
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You've got to be kidding me shocking.gif
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 29 2011, 05:17 PM)
You mean an understanding RIVALS fans, no? lol. laugh.gif  doh.gif
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if this fella continue to talk about why Torres wants to leave as in a player at his age will want to compete at the highest level, win some trophies for club before retiring, i can understand and may even reply for sake of healthy football discussion...

but when he say things like Torres is wasted at Liverpool...then you know la...what kind of poster this is...no need to bother one la...

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post Jan 29 2011, 05:23 PM

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huh? I thoguht radio head is liverpool fan? hmm.gif ..... my bad then.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 29 2011, 05:20 PM)
if this fella continue to talk about why Torres wants to leave as in a player at his age will want to compete at the highest level, win some trophies for club before retiring, i can understand and may even reply for sake of healthy football discussion...

but when he say things like Torres is wasted at Liverpool...then you know la...what kind of poster this is...no need to bother one la...
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Facts are facts brah. And the fact of the matter is, he has won nothing with Liverpool.

If and if he retires at Liverpool with no trophies, is that not a waste?

Remember how he destroyed RM? This kinda player, dont come around every Sunday. He should be challenging for 4 trophies in 1 year, not 1 trophy in 4 years.
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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 29 2011, 05:20 PM)
if this fella continue to talk about why Torres wants to leave as in a player at his age will want to compete at the highest level, win some trophies for club before retiring, i can understand and may even reply for sake of healthy football discussion...

but when he say things like Torres is wasted at Liverpool...then you know la...what kind of poster this is...no need to bother one la...
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For his history in this thread, which is so "wonderful", i would never reply his post which is why I quoted liez and not him.
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:27 PM

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i am seriously brokenhearted with Torres....
but we got to move on...
dont forget we have ngog and soon, suarez...

i wonder what will be the reception for Torres in the upcoming match
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post Jan 29 2011, 05:29 PM

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mybe same like owen case no??
after owen left season after that we win UCL....

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post Jan 29 2011, 05:29 PM

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Yup. Typical rival tongue.gif
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(if he is still here)

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