then why not stick to the in-built flash since it doesn't tilt, twist or turn and can be used for a long time

already said build in flash is too small and cannot face upwards...it's like a shortgun pointing at only one direction....close-up shot will die...and hardly to divert the lighting of that small flash using hand ot whatever tools

I use my own hand bounce my pop up flash, my eye also sakit liao lol. Who say kenot use hands bounce?

To each of its own la but if u want use flash prolonged, F58 would be wayyyyy better.

i want get Minolta 28mm F2.8 is that worth it this prime lens? RM400
but beside is sketch.

8tvt: its a sigma 28-200mm Hyperzoom. sometimes it work ok at 80mm and 200mm, tried this morning, 80mm and 200mm doesnot focus, but other focal length ok....dunno what happen...


codyx: F42 can also bounch and swive the head...n can do wireless...its a good flash... get a good AA batteries for the flash also...

Wrong info removed

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Added on December 28, 2010, 3:05 pmScratch? I think its worth it la. That lens damn rare now lol. And 400 quite reasonable.

This post has been edited by chiahau: Dec 28 2010, 03:09 PM

it's ok if i had a external flash....as long it flashes and i have something in mind i wanna do with it...F58 just is not yet necessary for me and act as an upgrade next time only

i tot futuromic does tamron lens only...

then you might wanna check this out - http://www.lightscoop.com/what-is-lightscoop.html

That was the same thing I was told.

F42 - 7xx , F58 - 1k

Differ by 2xx

But performance better. Price wise, surely F58 win

My pal bought F42 1st, regretted and forced to sell it off after a while for F58

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Added on December 28, 2010, 3:08 pmOpps~

That come out 1st in my search. Sorry, my mistake then.


All I can find is Sigma distributor:


This post has been edited by chiahau: Dec 28 2010, 03:13 PM

it's a good idea...but not what i wanted

if the price really as you say OF COURSE i'll get F58.....to compile with my performance-budget ma

This post has been edited by Codyx: Dec 28 2010, 03:10 PM

1k COD at malacca only wakaka >">

that's the cheapest so far I can find la lolz~

Getting mine later. Thinking of hauling CZ, Flash and etc 1 shot.

hahaha...nevermind i'll let people quote me so i can decide which one is worthy for my case

Very hard to get quoted below 1k by any seller for F58am >">

New set summore, ask la others how cheap it is.

Although Uncle Chin got do promo >">

Almost xx% off F58am with the purchase of A580 lol.

on the other hand....my a55 friend advice not getting f58 as it was too bulky...perhaps...just perhaps i'll get the small f20 if it has the power....otherwise F42 or.....or maybe luckily i can get 3rd party models

This post has been edited by Codyx: Dec 28 2010, 03:29 PM

F20 - GN20 , pop-up G12, IIRC..

3rd partly like Metz? Lol.

Ok. If your pal say its bulky, that is at least true

hmm....i think f20 looks cooler than those....at least it has a better swing position....metz...you guys already said exp....should i consider that?



Any body can tell this cannot focus in dark? 2:20

This post has been edited by Codyx: Dec 28 2010, 04:08 PM

chiahau: bro, thanks for the address...mayb will drop by there tomorrow... c how it goes...


codyx: i use F42 on my A230 is heavy enuf, if on A55 should be just nice...i too wanted a good flash, but not too advance n pricey, tats y i choose F42. F20...better stick to built-in flash...F20 can only bounce on ceiling if shooting landscade mode, for portrait mode, cannot bouce to ceiling as it cannot swive...

yah .. dont use cap giant cutton bud .. btw what u clean is not a sensor .. only a hot mirror .. behind the hotmirror barulah sensor .. b4 u use cutton bud .. locate where is stubborn dust ... and only apply to that location .. be gentle jgn kasar2 ..

Not all lens can focus in dark and poor light condition? That's where people use MF to overcome lol.

Lol. Thank google for the address. I just help you click it only wad
F20 is commonly used as a trigger to fire F58 wireless-ly since A850/A900 no built in Flash lol.