Haha me too, this thing is really good.

Still with your pl50s ? What headphones do you have ?

//Not to hype
I am playing this with ksc75 now
myself, the bass is, so smoooooth ( at least at this price )

This post has been edited by chchyong89: Jan 20 2011, 10:27 AM

Will be getting mine soon. We'll see how good it is!

I just got this....still under testing...
running in now....1st hour starting was real bad.

This post has been edited by Cosef: Jan 20 2011, 11:51 AM

oh, these DAC needs to burn in as well? didn't know, i thot only headphones needs to do that
btw, how long is recommended for DAC to burn in?

Should be the output decoupling cap still new, need run in. How long i don't know but now i know this DAC has big difference between before and after.

Sound good now.

Just wondering if it is a significant upgrade from the Ordnance DAC... COnsidering but have to save money first for Symphonica cable. >.<

yes. Ordnance = PCM270x, meaning cmoys of DACs

Well, for believers, it is also wise to put cables as the last thing to upgrade. There are other things in the chain that is more important than cables, by a significant amount.

Give it one hour to exercise first

Yup, still with my PL50. That's all I have for the moment. Planning on a radius DDM.
I think this DAC will sound superb with warm headphones/IEM.

Oh yeah, at first it sounded a bit muffled. That was my mistake I had the EQ on. Then I turned any enhancements off, and the details stood out. Still sounded a bit sibilant. But after a while everything settled.

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Added on January 20, 2011, 6:48 pmHey can I post a review of this DAC at Headjam forum?

This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Jan 20 2011, 06:48 PM

LG kor kor...

is there any list of DACs like a chart or something (like TomsHardware GPU Chart) where we can see which DAC sits where in terms of prestige and glamor and the CMOY-ish one

How is this Wolfson 8051 compared to lets say PCM1704??

PCM1704 is quite high level to compare with 8051

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Added on January 20, 2011, 8:15 pmIf someone allow, go ahead

This post has been edited by chchyong89: Jan 20 2011, 08:15 PM

eehh..i typo'ed, i meant 1794 sorry sorry

or lets compare to the same company...the WM8704/41/42

Haha, thank you....it's done.

Very hard lor, this is not exactly CPU, where raw performance > everything else.

When I was talking about PCM270x being cmoys, I was actually comparing the "building blocks" used. In this context, PCM270x if used solo for DAC, is very "cmoy-ish" because there is almost nothing simpler than this.

Truth is, after solo PCM270x DACs, things becomes less simple and it's really all about DAC specs, designs and implementations. To make matters worse, after you surpass a certain higher level, everything boils down to preference. If you're only interested in raw figures between DACs, the datasheets are a good start

I'd say for the PCM1794, it beats the WM8051 hands down. They are very different chips for different applications. WM8051 is inferior because everything is packed on the single die and you don't have much options for external enhancement. Well, at this point, it's like comparing a mobile CPU chip for notebooks to desktop CPU chips for PCs. Not quite a fair comparison.

If anyone is wondering what the DAC is like, it's closer to the Gamma1. Except it uses a slightly different processor chip (PCM2706). At this price, you're getting something good. Rest assured.


P.S. Chchyong89 bribed me so instead of heckling his thread, I have no choice but to speak good words about this product.









lol nah, just j/k

This post has been edited by LittleGhost: Jan 20 2011, 09:34 PM

I guess it realyl depends huh?
If u have stock 650,then get Symphonica.

I would rather take the DAC, its a much better upgrade than buying cables. Furthermore the cables costs significantly more than this DAC + proper casing. I agree with LittleGhost, cables are the last thing to upgrade

sorta off topic, but the HD650 is really much better off with a headamp first. This DAC is line out and is not so proper for big headphones like the HD650.

Cables don't change the impedance characteristics of the drivers, it's still going to need a lot of drive from amps, whether you like it or not(hint hint).

aha, i just buy this dac, waiting to arrive it at home.
im using windows 7, do I need special driver or application to run over it>?