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 The next USB DAC, come on guys let's guess it!, Powerful DAC in small size!

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post Jan 16 2011, 10:22 PM

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which capacitor can be change if we want to change to a better grade capacitors for better sound
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post Jan 16 2011, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(xk2 @ Jan 16 2011, 10:22 PM)
which capacitor can be change if we want to change to a better grade capacitors for better sound
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If you wan get ur hand dirty, the output capacitor can be
change (the yellow one) and it can affect the sound
characteristic, quite a lot biggrin.gif
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post Jan 16 2011, 11:06 PM

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chchyong,
May be you should compile a list of upgrade steps/paths available?
Good for newbies biggrin.gif
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post Jan 17 2011, 08:10 AM

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I have not looked at the boards myself, but the output decoupling caps are not bypassed by film caps.

Anyone who prefers a DIY upgrade should bypass the output caps with a decent pair of film caps. Vishay Rodersteins recommended.
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post Jan 18 2011, 01:57 AM

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eh,wait. what does mean coaxial output switchable?

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post Jan 18 2011, 06:13 PM

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Yaaaay, it's here!! My unit has finally arrived. rclxm9.gif

First thing I noticed is the high end detail, really really a step above the onboard soundcard of my Dell Vostro. Cymbals sound crisper, they sound more like cymbals now instead of sounding like metal splashing, more energetic but not that fatiguing to listen to.

Bass becomes tighter and more real. It's not flabby as my on-board's. Vocals also sound good, the intimacy is fantastic(according to the recording), female vocals especially. When the singer hits the high notes....wow. In short, compared to the on-board sound-card of a Dell Vostro, fantastic. Strumming of acoustic guitars sound better too.
All these are straight from Foobar2000 to the DAC and to my PL50. Have yet to try Asio4all driver.

A really great sounding product, I'm really satisfied and really glad I invested in it. thumbup.gif

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post Jan 18 2011, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jan 18 2011, 01:57 AM)
eh,wait. what does mean coaxial output switchable?
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It mean that, you can switch for coaxial output if you want smile.gif

Wow, now that's very first review from tunertoobe! thumbup.gif
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post Jan 18 2011, 08:27 PM

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Any comparison between Govibe DAC and this wolfson? I know govibe is only using PCM2702.
What i really interested to know is, is there really a big difference between govibe's and this dac? tongue.gif
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post Jan 18 2011, 08:40 PM

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I'm really quite interested in this....

is it running 24-bit 192khz max and plug and play?

Its naked again, i need to crack my brain for some durable casing....
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owch...i know it.. i know i will poison me....
oh yeah...my bro willing to support this card(mcm nk belanja arr)
but he ask me 3 reason why need to buy this dac compare to pci sound card like creative/asus..
so,what should I tell him?
need to giv himkaw kaw reason if want him treat me this dac icon_question.gif
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post Jan 18 2011, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 18 2011, 06:13 PM)
Yaaaay, it's here!! My unit has finally arrived.  rclxm9.gif

First thing I noticed is the high end detail, really really a step above the onboard soundcard of my Dell Vostro. Cymbals sound crisper, they sound more like cymbals now instead of sounding like metal splashing, more energetic but not that fatiguing to listen to.

Bass becomes tighter and more real. It's not flabby as my on-board's. Vocals also sound good, the intimacy is fantastic(according to the recording), female vocals especially. When the singer hits the high notes....wow. In short, compared to the on-board sound-card of a Dell Vostro, fantastic. Strumming of acoustic guitars sound better too.
All these are straight from Foobar2000 to the DAC and to my PL50. Have yet to try Asio4all driver.

A really great sounding product, I'm really satisfied and really glad I invested in it.  thumbup.gif
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All this even before the unit is burned-in? Amazing. This is better than the mini usb soundcard that TS sold
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post Jan 18 2011, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jan 18 2011, 08:59 PM)
owch...i know it.. i know i will poison me....
oh yeah...my bro willing to support this card(mcm nk belanja arr)
but he ask me 3 reason why need to buy this dac compare to pci sound card like creative/asus..
so,what should I tell him?
need to giv himkaw kaw reason if want him treat me this dac  icon_question.gif
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I don't know how those sound so I can't say they're better/worse/equal to the DAC. But the DAC is certainly a lot cheaper.....and cooler. laugh.gif

QUOTE(runemastertan @ Jan 18 2011, 10:14 PM)
All this even before the unit is burned-in? Amazing. This is better than the mini usb soundcard that TS sold
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Yeah. I find it a lot easier to look for details than before. Some sounds that used to be drowned out by other sounds, not happening anymore. Hi-hats and cymbals sounds more pronounced, but at the same time everything else does so it balances everything out. With the DAC it does sound brighter, but the low end isn't actually compromised. It's just the warmness has lessened a bit.

This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Jan 18 2011, 11:42 PM
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post Jan 19 2011, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 18 2011, 06:13 PM)
Yaaaay, it's here!! My unit has finally arrived.  rclxm9.gif

First thing I noticed is the high end detail, really really a step above the onboard soundcard of my Dell Vostro. Cymbals sound crisper, they sound more like cymbals now instead of sounding like metal splashing, more energetic but not that fatiguing to listen to.

Bass becomes tighter and more real. It's not flabby as my on-board's. Vocals also sound good, the intimacy is fantastic(according to the recording), female vocals especially. When the singer hits the high notes....wow. In short, compared to the on-board sound-card of a Dell Vostro, fantastic. Strumming of acoustic guitars sound better too.
All these are straight from Foobar2000 to the DAC and to my PL50. Have yet to try Asio4all driver.

A really great sounding product, I'm really satisfied and really glad I invested in it.  thumbup.gif
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I'd write my own review, but then it would be exactly the same as above.

I first listened through my onboard sound. The USB Dac is miles and miles ahead, seriously no comparison. Next I compared it to an SB Audigy soundcard , more detailed, punchier bass, I'd say a ~30% improvement.

My setup is a Grado SR-60i and Pcwork's recabled KSC-75.

Overall I'm really impressed with the unit. Unfortunately I don't have any other standalone external DACs to compare it with (yet).
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post Jan 19 2011, 01:02 AM

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Really confuse DAC by now... how is sound card compare to this?
If prodigy hd2? can compare this? HD2 can change opamp... this thing use WM8501... confuse....
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You are confused! laugh.gif
opamp and DAC not the same mahh...
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post Jan 19 2011, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(inyuret @ Jan 19 2011, 12:10 AM)
I'd write my own review, but then it would be exactly the same as above.

I first listened through my onboard sound. The USB Dac is miles and miles ahead, seriously no comparison. Next I compared it to an SB Audigy soundcard , more detailed, punchier bass, I'd say a ~30% improvement.

My setup is a Grado SR-60i and Pcwork's recabled KSC-75.

Overall I'm really impressed with the unit. Unfortunately I don't have any other standalone external DACs to compare it with (yet).
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Yeah, seriously, comparing the on-board and this DAC, the on-board is almost laughable.
After m initial impression I appreciate the importance of a good DAC even more.
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QUOTE(laulyg @ Jan 19 2011, 01:02 AM)
Really confuse DAC by now... how is sound card compare to this?
If prodigy hd2? can compare this? HD2 can change opamp... this thing use WM8501... confuse....
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Prodigy HD2 is a PCI DAC, this one is a USB DAC.
Correct me if I am wrong. =)
I do have a Prodigy HD2, but long time never use it since I am with my laptop now.. >.<
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QUOTE(CoolBoy89 @ Jan 18 2011, 08:27 PM)
Any comparison between Govibe DAC and this wolfson? I know govibe is only using PCM2702.
What i really interested to know is, is there really a big difference between govibe's and this dac?  tongue.gif
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this DAC is the next step up to PCM270x DACs.

You can think of the PCM270x as CMOYs of the DACs. They are just this basic!


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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jan 19 2011, 11:01 AM)
this DAC is the next step up to PCM270x DACs.

You can think of the PCM270x as CMOYs of the DACs. They are just this basic!
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laugh.gif lol
i think I'm gonna quote this into my siggy
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post Jan 20 2011, 02:54 AM

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This DAC is keeping me awake. sad.gif
Can't...stop...listening!

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