Any recommended setups or which shops in lowyat? Budget bout RM2k+ but not more than 3k (include monitor)

Currently looking at:
CPU: Intel I5 750 processor
Ram: Corsair 4G PC1333
GPU: Any Nvidia GTS450 1GB D5 ??? still not sure
Motherboard: ???? really no idea...
Hdd: Any sata???

What else?

Used to play at cybercafe so i totally dont know what to get now... Need good rig for heavy raid and battleground environment..

Hmm, you don't need a high end PC to run WoW. I have a medium end PC that runs WoW perfectly. Only costed me RM 1.2k. Running at ~60fps in crowded areas, ~120fps in indoor areas/raids.
Just play with the settings and you'll have a good balance of performance and eye candy.

Anyways, just as a guideline.

CPU: Anything above 2 cores
RAM: Anything above 2GB RAM
GPU: Anything that is DirectX 11 capable. Rumor has it WoW runs best on DX11 cards

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Dec 8 2010, 03:38 PM

An i3 processor will do the job, 2GB ram, GT240 at least.
Motherboard just pick any m-atx one, since motherboard won't affect your game performance.

State your budget so people here could help you out.

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Dec 8 2010, 03:43 PM

u want high or ultra setting?

*taking notes*

MOAR INPUT PLOX!!!!

MOAR!!!!

No need ultra settings, dont need too much eye candy.. But more responsive (50+fps) and clear graphics lah.. As long can see enemy or boss skills clearly...

As stated on my 1st post, budget bout 2k-3k max..

Does Hard disk effect gameplay too? How bout motherboard?? I have a phobia on motherboards...
Last time during college days where i used to assemble my own and got a motherboard thats not compatible with certain hardware and keep hang or get bottlenecked speeds..

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Added on December 8, 2010, 3:59 pmRead from Toms hardware that the difference between GTS450 and GTX460 seems huge? Is it worth the money to get GTX460 instead?

This post has been edited by geno: Dec 8 2010, 03:59 PM

Yes, to a small extent.



A good motherboard is actually very important, where a good or bad motherboard could mean the difference between 50 fps or 5 fps. That's not so surprising as its the interconnecting bridge between your CPU, HD, RAM and GPU, all working hand in hand to deliver the best possible performance. One weak link in the chain and it all falls apart. I normally buy a very well-rounded PC, with the best bang for buck.

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Dec 8 2010, 04:07 PM

You sure about this? I've been testing out a Gigabyte X58A-UD7 and a normal M-ATX board and i don't see any difference in terms of FPS.

Just straight away go for GTX460, it will lasts you for very long time since you just focus on WoW mainly.

If 2.5k-3k budget, consider this spec, should be sufficient for you for 3 years.

i7-870 - RM920
Asus P7P55 LX - RM365
Kingston DDR3 2GB x 2 - RM77 x 2
Samsung DVD-RW 22x - RM63
Samsung 1TB F3 - RM169
CM Elite series - RM139
Silverstone True Power 500W - RM229
Asus GTX460 Top Edition 1GB - RM729

Total RM2768.


This post has been edited by kEazYc: Dec 8 2010, 04:48 PM

Geno, bear in mind that Tomshardware tests using MAX settings and does not include Raid/City environments.

Possible build:
CPU: AMD AM3 X2 555 (excellent value for money, possible unlockable cores) - 280
RAM: 4GB DDR3 (just the right size) - 160
GPU: GTS450 (I agree with your selection, this card is good value) - 460
Motherboard: Asus M4A77TD (770 chipset is old but suits your basic needs) - 250
HDD: Any 1TB hdd - 200

I know most people will disagree with selecting AM3 over core i3/i5, and you are right, but this is a save money build. i3 and above will cost a few hundred more, which is difficult because you need to include a monitor.

This post has been edited by Currylaksa: Dec 8 2010, 05:10 PM

Thank you kEazYc sounds like a very good spec indeed! Which shop is this price is based on?

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Added on December 8, 2010, 5:09 pmThanks curry laksa... But i would prefer intel over amd, i had bad experience with amd getting very hot!! Plus i dont know how to overclock it..

How much you think this setup will cost? Cheap and good will be the order of the day!!

i still need to pay Streamyx RM110 monthly + RM50 WoW top-up + RM18 proxy... zzzz

This post has been edited by geno: Dec 8 2010, 05:10 PM

Okay okay, if you prefer Intel.

CPU: Core i3-540 (best price/performance in i3 range) - 375
Motherboard: ASUS P7H55-M (good mobo for the low price) - 300
RAM: 4GB DDR3 (just the right size) - 160
GPU: GTS450 (I agree with your selection, this card is good value) - 460
HDD: Any 1TB hdd - 200

Any casing/550W power supply will do., then the whole setup will be around RM1800 to RM2000. A good quality 23" LCD will be around RM550. So total will be around RM2500.

Happy shopping!

This post has been edited by Currylaksa: Dec 8 2010, 05:23 PM

Eh include monitor, din notice that :S.
All base on the shop pricelist i working at.. cycom @ lowyat.

the spec i gave earlier doesn't include monitor yet.

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Dec 8 2010, 05:15 PM

wat about crazy dudes who would like dual/tri graphic cards for high graphical results?

The FPS difference is is whether you have good CPU(Quad core and above) and a good Graphic card. From my experience, the CPU on the top list.

Get intel...WOW favours intel...

lol, you mean 50 and 45fps?

This post has been edited by TiF: Dec 8 2010, 05:27 PM

btw AMD claims that HOT thingy is a myth. their proc runs cool.

mine x3 amd
gt9600

can play all situation.
except ground texture need to be lowered. then anything will be alright.

you see, my low spec can handle lots of situation in game.
i bet that i3 and gt460 can do more than a good to your game.

hope u got idea now.

imo,it depends on what ts wants..if want eye candy performance,get gc dx11 n use dx11 setting..if want smooth gameplay,choose quad cpu..once i play ultra setting with gtx 260 n e8400 (dual core),when reach at grizzly hills,crstalsong and scholazar basin,super lag..

^^
True, it's up to the OP to decide which settings he want to play.
If he has lot of $$ to burn, might as well get the intel i7 system.

I'm using only AMD Phenom II X4 and ATI 4850 card, and still plays good on ultra setting.

cant wait for 6870..i want to play in dx11 setting..my cpu is enough i think..

wow with directx 11 abit weird...
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,763173/...pport/Practice/

Yeah, i'm tempted to upgrade to 6870, is the price going down already?

its beautiful..but if play 2 long,im gonna headache

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Added on December 8, 2010, 6:21 pmdunno..but price range is 700-850..currently mostly everywhere dun have stock except for sapphire and gigabite only..im waitin for powercolor..

This post has been edited by vostroxe: Dec 8 2010, 06:21 PM

Overexaggeration on my part

True story though. Happened to me during my campus days. I had an old PC (VIA chipset motherboard, AMD Athlon XP, Radeon 9600) once. My favorite game at the time would be Oblivion, playing at around 30-40 fps.
It so happens that one day my motherboard decided to give up on me, and being the cheapskate I was, opted for the cheapest motherboard available. Got myself a new one (SiS chipset motherboard) for around RM200, plugged the same CPU and GPU in.
And with this new motherboard, Oblivion was running at 5-10 fps. I was like

In the end, I returned the motherboard and topped up another RM100 to get an NForce chipset motherboard, which gave me around the same fps in Oblivion as the VIA chipset motherboard did.

google 1st.lots of gtx 460 users claims fps drops in WoW.dunno whether the problem has been rectified or not.
i5 760 sudah.if u wanna go i7 route,better go for 1366 platform instead.

This post has been edited by 711726: Dec 8 2010, 06:30 PM

any source/link?

FPS drops with GTX460 is either by CPU bottlenecking, other than that i don't know, a friend of mine that bought his system from me with i5 + gtx460 getting 100+ fps most of the time during heavy raids, so i dunno, source/link as currylaksa requested to avoid more doubts.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1126994707

You sure about this?
This is Direct X 9


And this is Direct X 11


Please double check bro... all my colleague say the 1st pwns the 2nd pic...

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Dec 8 2010, 07:38 PM

no pic

nvm forget about, not worth argue about it

hmm only some people in that topic... and it looks like a driver issue, not hardware

instead of a high end pc, you should be lookin' for a internet service provider that promises a stable internet connection

This is what I'm getting TOMORROW. It fits your budget nicely (below RM3k) and will work wonders in WoW.

CPU : Intel i5 760 2.8GHz
RAM : Kingston DDR3 1333MHz 2 x 2GB (value RAM) (total 4GB)
Hard Drive : 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black
Motherboard : Asus P7P55 LX
Graphics Card : EVGA nVidia GTX 460 1GB
Network Card : D-Link WiFi-N PCI Adapter 150Mbps
PSU : Cooler Master Extreme 550w
Casing : Thermaltake v3 Black Edition

Total = RM2.4k

The other RM600 you can look around for a very good monitor. Mine is a Dell U2311H and costs only RM630 http://www1.ap.dell.com/my/en/business/mon...s=bsd&cs=mybsd1
It's an IPS panel so that's why it costs a bit more than other TFT monitors.
Of course, you can get much cheaper monitors and most people can't even see the difference in quality anyway, so anything from Dell is usually a very good choice.

Total budget RM2.8K~ depending on your monitor choice.

^
Guess you might need to get a true power instead of extreme, for better power output.

I might get the Real Power, depending on what price they can give me for it

dont take gtx 460..rugi wo..6870 offer same price for better performance..far more better i think based on every review..

For RM250 more expensive it's NOT worth the money. Also, 6870 runs quite a bit hotter that the 460, and I do not trust ATi drivers AT ALL. All my experience with ATi drivers have been bad.

460 1GB I can get for RM640, 6870 is almost RM800. Big price difference for minor performance difference. In WoW, the difference between the 2 cards is THREE FPS.

6870 is rm750..if budget limited go for 460/6850..ati dun have physx..btw,both have pro n cons..i want to get 6870 now,but no stock..if take too long,might consider 560..

Never gonna go ATi unless they fix their driver problems. To me, 460 and 6870 have almost no difference in performance, unless you play on a 30" monitor at 2560x1600, which I don't. I game at 1920x1080 so both these cards are equal in performance. Also, I trust nVidia drivers much much more too

Actually 6870 is significantly better than GTX460 in mainstream 3D games, just not World of Warcraft.

Also the price difference is only around RM100.

Finally, temperature on load for both cards are almost the same.

This post has been edited by Currylaksa: Dec 10 2010, 01:07 AM

6870 no stock meh, my shop got alot

PM'ed!

I can't find any reviews that shows that though. At best, the 6870 is doing 5-8FPS better in some games, and an overclocked 460 easily matches the 6870 in almost every other game.

If the price difference is within RM100 like you said, I MIGHT choose that over the 460, I just pray that ATi fix their drivers faster

This post has been edited by ArmedandDangerous: Dec 10 2010, 06:15 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/world-...mance,2793.html

this? it post bt CurryLaksa..

The thing I like about ATi is that they have new drivers every month. I don't usually face problems with their drivers but if I do, I know that they'll release one soon.

Nvidia, on the other hand...

Hmm you gotta copy the links properly though

facts:

-Nvidia overprice BS, but they tamed up recently due to heat by ATI

- ATI drivers suck

- nvidia drivers only rock, because of their gaming market monopolization

- ATI yields better raw card performance than nvidia for the same amount spend

- however said performance may not be achievable in actual game play due to shitty drivers

tldr: nvidia generally less hassle, and lol fanboyism/paying out of your nose, while ATI is better price/performance ratio, but rofl drivers.

both are viable choice, and its almost really up to who have the "best card of that period" or "best performance/value ratio of that period" in which case, at the moment GTX460 is on the upper hand.

Got my new system today

At least ATI doesn't release driver that fries your card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-19...ating,9802.html

I've used both ATI(2 years) and Nvidia(6 years). I have no problems from them. From the news, both of them have their bad times though.

This post has been edited by TristanX: Dec 11 2010, 05:26 AM

yeah..+1..i dont want to stick at 1 brand only..forgot bout 196 driver..