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post Dec 24 2010, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 07:49 AM)
For the same price tag notebook is laggy but have USB. Pay for iPad get performance but no USB. Office got pc and home got pc so iPad more a mobile gadget for me then
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Are you sure for the same price, notebook is laggy? I don't think so lor. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 24 2010, 08:47 AM

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RM1549 Notebook why not u named me one thats not laggy or quote me thanks look forward =p thats running games like this



care to enlighten us. I also want a notebook that cost cheap and good graphic performance


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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 08:47 AM)
RM1500 Notebook why not u named me one thats not laggy or quote me thanks look forward =p
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Look at my signature, Lenovo Thinkpad x100e... biggrin.gif
ALL notebooks still perform better than Ipad. No doubt about it.


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post Dec 24 2010, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 24 2010, 08:51 AM)
Look at my signature, Lenovo Thinkpad x100e... biggrin.gif
ALL notebooks still perform better than Ipad. No doubt about it.
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can run games like this?



Since NFS hot pursuit is out for pc care to test the game on your thinkpad? No lag until finish game if yes i am consider getting one from u



hehe all i know my dual core also lag di. Thanks sifu

I dislike apple but i have to give them some credits amazing graphics game u can play without lag and i tell you notebook havent reach that level yet at ipad price tag. For other function ipad loses to notebook but gaming wise, graphical required its really smooth maybe minor lag but most games i can play

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post Dec 24 2010, 09:08 AM

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sifu lagging le. Thats the lagging i was talking about. if got more effect will lag even more.

here sample





Like i said i dislike apple but whatever gadget i have i will really test intensive. With the new gyroscope if ipad might get it brings gaming to the next level. Furthermore you look at the graphics? Somemore the game cost like 0.99 cent to 9.99 USD. PC game cost like RM100 +++ then now it also support multiplayer via gamecenter and their own multiplayer group.

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laptop got too much spec.. depend la if you wanna play hardcore games like the above then you might wanna have at least rm3*** in your hand..
ipad is utterly good for mobility. it's a new trend nowaday but seeing ipad is the only tabloid in the world is very2 stupid.
waiting for a better tabloid.. never liked apple, pricey as it always is!
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 08:54 AM)
I  dislike apple but i have to give them some credits amazing graphics game u can play without lag and i tell you notebook havent reach that level yet at ipad price tag. For other function ipad loses to notebook but gaming wise, graphical required its really smooth maybe minor lag but most games i can play
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Some devices are created to play games like PS3,PSP. The games are develop to optimised such machines.

To say Ipad has better performance than notebook is BULLSHIT.


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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 09:08 AM)
sifu lagging le. Thats the lagging i was talking about. if got more effect will lag even more.

here sample





Like i said i dislike apple but whatever gadget i have i will really test intensive. With the new gyroscope if ipad might get it brings gaming to the next level. Furthermore you look at the graphics? Somemore the game cost like 0.99 cent to 9.99 USD. PC game cost like RM100 +++ then now it also support multiplayer via gamecenter and their own multiplayer group.
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The games play on IOS is so much lower resolution...u must understand.

These games are optimised of the IOS.

PC can play RTS games like starcraft 2,etc....how to play in small screen, low resolution like IPAD,IP4.

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I never said its better. is u said is better it said for a mobile device looks what its already capable off. I only said notebook have its own pros and cons and so is this ipad thats all. It can never replace a notebook but it brings mobility experience to the next level. PSP cant be compare because it doesnt have touchscreen. PS3 its not mobility.

Just my opinion.

I not an ifag but i am just making a point. Can your X100 run starcraft 2 and win no lag? especially the final boss? So PC games maker design their game to only support quad core computers? to experience no lag.

My point let me rephase on a device so small and thin look at the graphics tats all. Then the next question when can netbook play games like starcraft 2? When are they gonna optimize for you?

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 09:16 AM)
I never said its better. is u said is better it said for a mobile device looks what its already capable off. I only said notebook have its own pros and cons and so is this ipad thats all. It can never replace a notebook but it brings mobility experience to the next level. PSP cant be compare because it doesnt have touchscreen. PS3 its not mobility.
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Well, u should said better mobility than notebook...I agree, not performance.. whistling.gif
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I am from the computer era everytime a better game comes out i need spend money on my computer to upgrade ram la processor la graphic card la this la that la. Now i dont have to worry that so much. The reseller value also quite good for the ipad.

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 24 2010, 10:20 AM)
Well, u should said better mobility than notebook...I agree, not performance.. whistling.gif
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post Dec 24 2010, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 24 2010, 09:10 AM)
Some devices are created to play games like PS3,PSP. The games are develop to optimised such machines.

To say Ipad has better performance than notebook is BULLSHIT.


Added on December 24, 2010, 9:15 am
The games play on IOS is so much lower resolution...u must understand.

These games are optimised of the IOS.

PC can play RTS games like starcraft 2,etc....how to play in small screen, low resolution like IPAD,IP4.
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I test already my AMD X2 6000 4gb ram, 512mb graphic card i need play 1024X768 on a 24inch screen to have a smooth gameplay.


Added on December 24, 2010, 9:28 amof course mobility la. For the same price i get a desktop anytime own the ipad with the ipad budget

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post Dec 24 2010, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 09:23 AM)
The reseller value also quite good for the ipad.
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Yes, it's true..no doubt about it.
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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 24 2010, 08:51 AM)
Look at my signature, Lenovo Thinkpad x100e... biggrin.gif
ALL notebooks still perform better than Ipad. No doubt about it.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 09:16 AM)
I never said its better. is u said is better it said for a mobile device looks what its already capable off. I only said notebook have its own pros and cons and so is this ipad thats all. It can never replace a notebook but it brings mobility experience to the next level. PSP cant be compare because it doesnt have touchscreen. PS3 its not mobility.

Just my opinion.

I not an ifag but i am just making a point. Can your X100 run starcraft 2 and win no lag? especially the final boss? So PC games maker design their game to only support quad core computers? to experience no lag.

My point let me rephase on a device so small and thin look at the graphics tats all. Then the next question when can netbook play games like starcraft 2? When are they gonna optimize for you?
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good question.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 09:23 AM)
I am from the computer era everytime a better game comes out i need spend money on my computer to upgrade ram la processor la graphic card la this la that la. Now i dont have to worry that so much. The reseller value also quite good for the ipad.
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For now the price will be good, ut it does not mean that also be the same in the future.

@aspire2006,
do you use your ipad to reply lowyat posts on the bus?

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post Dec 24 2010, 12:10 PM

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I just love apps. They're useful and convenient to carry around. Be it for play, work or entertainment.

It is easy to use. Unlike notebook you need to run installation etc. It boots up fast too, no antivirus or windows update which is pure annoyance. I'm too lazy to turn on my notebook or computer nowadays.

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 24 2010, 12:05 PM)
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good question.
For now the price will be good, ut it does not mean that also be the same in the future.

@aspire2006,
do you use your ipad to reply lowyat posts on the bus?
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i drive so stuck in jam ma use ipad online. yea mine is the 3G version.
True nobody knows what coming in the future but for now is thumbup.gif

I dont workship steve jobs but after intensively play with it i learn so much. I also master symbian and Maemo so its kinda impressive looking at the ipad even so many ppl condemn it. It does get certain jobs done and its never design to replace anything but just ease your daily life. I work very stress i play some games.


Added on December 24, 2010, 12:28 pmSo hope u guys understand purpose of my explaination just to make you understand both worlds not to bias against 1. There no such thing as perfect device in the world or not even any perfect human even the prettiest girl or handsome guy have some untold flaw

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 12:27 PM)
i drive so stuck in jam ma use ipad online. yea mine is the 3G version.
True nobody knows what coming in the future but for now is  thumbup.gif

I dont workship steve jobs but after intensively play with it i learn so much. I also master symbian and Maemo so its kinda impressive looking at the ipad even so many ppl condemn it. It does get certain jobs done and its never design to replace anything but just ease your daily life. I work very stress i play some games.


Added on December 24, 2010, 12:28 pmSo hope u guys understand purpose of my explaination just to make you understand both worlds not to bias against 1. There no such thing as perfect device in the world or not even any perfect human even the prettiest girl or handsome guy have some untold flaw
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1. I don't think drivers are supposed to divert their attention to playing games while driving, even if they are stuck in a traffic jam.

2. If you really HAVE to play game while driving, any handheld gaming device can do the job just as well, if not better. Mobile phones, for example, is easier to operate with one hand, compared to the more cumbersome iPad.

You're right in the sense that the iPad doesn't really replace anything. As for easing your daily life, even that is debatable.

I really don't think anyone can come up with a long list of common daily tasks that only the iPad is capable of performing, or at the very least, perform it the best compared to other available devices. A short list, comprising of a few very situational tasks, maybe. That's why it's a niche product. Not useless by any means, but very niche. Like I said, the main, overwhelming reason why someone would want an iPad now is for the novelty factor, I believe.
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QUOTE(clutch31 @ Dec 24 2010, 01:04 PM)
1. I don't think drivers are supposed to divert their attention to playing games while driving, even if they are stuck in a traffic jam.

2. If you really HAVE to play game while driving, any handheld gaming device can do the job just as well, if not better. Mobile phones, for example, is easier to operate with one hand, compared to the more cumbersome iPad.

You're right in the sense that the iPad doesn't really replace anything. As for easing your daily life, even that is debatable.

I really don't think anyone can come up with a long list of common daily tasks that only the iPad is capable of performing, or at the very least, perform it the best compared to other available devices. A short list, comprising of a few very situational tasks, maybe. That's why it's a niche product. Not useless by any means, but very niche. Like I said, the main, overwhelming reason why someone would want an iPad now is for the novelty factor, I believe.
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like i said different ppl have different preferences maybe not to u. This is the conclusion i have after playing with multiple device.

1. hehe its your choice. that is mine rclxms.gif

2. Which one better a 13inch LCD better or a 32inch LCD better? If i am driving if the thing is too small i need to double focus. if the screen is big enough i just glance i can see it very easy. I only play when its stationary or bumper to bumper. For me i anytime i prefer the 32inch. Not only driving everything the same 3.5inch vs 9.5 inch that is like 3 times the size.

For me of course i can. I can even come out with 40 reason what i can do with nokia N900 a device alot ppl dont think worth so whats about Ipad? For me ipad is easy to see so i can spend less time on my computer. Office i sync it will google so my tasks and calender gets up to date from the office.


Make it simple to understand even i give u the best sniper rifle in the world it doesnt mean u will hit the target. U give a pro a 5th best sniper rifle it still kills the target.The question is whether do u need it? I feel i need it so i get it. Cheers just my opinion no offense happy.gif
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 01:30 PM)
like i said different ppl have different preferences maybe not to u. This is the conclusion i have after playing with multiple device.

1. hehe its your choice. that is mine  rclxms.gif

2. Which one better a 13inch LCD better or a 32inch LCD better? If i am driving if the thing is too small i need to double focus. if the screen is big enough i just glance i can see it very easy. I only play when its stationary or bumper to bumper. For me i anytime i prefer the 32inch. Not only driving everything the same 3.5inch vs 9.5 inch that is like 3 times the size.

I know what you are trying to say. Bigger screen = easier to see, yes. But like I said, bigger screen also = more cumbersome. Especially if you are playing games while driving. So it's a trade off basically. Meaning pros and cons, give and take. Which was why I said if you want to play games in a car, other gaming handhelds are just as good. Which brings me to my point: you CAN use the iPad for the purpose you described, yes. But there's no real compelling reason why you WANT to use an iPad over other available devices, other than "HEY OMG LOOK IT'S AN IPAD WOOT!".

Makes sense?

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 24 2010, 01:30 PM)
For me of course i can. I can even come out with 40 reason what i can do with nokia N900 a device alot ppl dont think worth so whats about Ipad? For me ipad is easy to see so i can spend less time on my computer.  Office i sync it will google so my tasks and calender gets up to date from the office.
Make it simple to understand even i give u the best sniper rifle in the world it doesnt mean u will hit the target. U give a pro a 5th best sniper rifle  it still kills the target.The question is whether do u need it? I feel i need it so i get it. Cheers just my opinion no offense happy.gif
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No, no, I wasn't saying you cannot come up with a list of what you CAN do with an iPad. Heck, one can even use an iPad as a drink coaster if they want to.

What I said was, if you paid attention, is that there really isn't a long list of tasks that ONLY the iPad can do, or at least DO IT BEST.

Let me give you an example for smartphones, or mobile phones in general.

1. Mobility. They fit in your pocket. This is something that ONLY mobile phones/smartphones can give you. You cannot achieve this with PCs or laptops or tablets, unless you have huuuggge pockets.

2. Communication on the go. They allow me to use telephony services on the go. Other devices can also do this, yes, like laptops with Skype, but there's no mistaking that a mobile phone/smartphone does this THE BEST overall.

So you see, these two examples give me very compelling reasons why I would want a mobile phone/smartphone. And if you sit down and think further, you can easily expand the list.

Now try doing that for the iPad. Like I said, you might be able to come up with a short list of a few very situational tasks, that's it.

Anyway, just go re-read my post. I feel like I'm repeating myself.

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