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 Qatar to host World Cup 2022, Is this a Joke?

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post Dec 3 2010, 04:30 PM

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Quite excited about the prospect of watching the match in Qatar. I have family living there, I hope they are still there in 12 years. I bet the stadiums they're building would be amazing.

Japan's bid was pretty wicked though, 3D hologram projecting the matches in real stadium all over the world would be totally boss!
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y Qatar is a joke? they have the monies, they have the budget unlike m'sia
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post Dec 3 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(cocklea @ Dec 3 2010, 04:30 PM)
Quite excited about the prospect of watching the match in Qatar. I have family living there, I hope they are still there in 12 years. I bet the stadiums they're building would be amazing.

Japan's bid was pretty wicked though, 3D hologram projecting the matches in real stadium all over the world would be totally boss!
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hahaha... i pretty sure Qatar and Russia have started negotiating with the Japanese to have that technology in place for them right after the ceromony..

Why would the Japanese hold that technology now for... their (Asia's) realistic next turn to bid would propably be in 2042.


P/s - 2042 really sounds like a science fiction date. If holograms already ready by 2022, the eagerly awaited Jetson's flying cars would propably already in use by 2042 tongue.gif

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baru ingat, Paul the Octopus "predicted" England 2018

if anyone of you watched BBC's Panorama recently, these are the guarantees FIFA demands from the governments

http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/...Garantie_1.pdf - Visa and Entry Procedures
http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/...Garantie_2.pdf - Work Permits
http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/...Garantie_3.pdf - Tax Exemption
http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/...Garantie_4.pdf - Safety & Security
http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/...Garantie_5.pdf - Bank & Foreign Exchange Operations
http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/...Garantie_6.pdf - Protection and Exploitation of Commercial Rights
http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/...Garantie_7.pdf - Telecommunication, Information Technology
http://media.rtl.nl/media/financien/...Garantie_8.pdf - Legal Issues and Indemnification

Complete tax exemption shocking.gif not sure if the olympic body also got demand this from potential hosts

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then, football is for everyone, no racism etc2

now, tak buleh here, tak buleh there, israel here, israel there

u reli facepalm.jpg la

u think FIFA comittee chose qatar using their knee issit?

their plan IS ENOUGH TO SATISFY FIFA COMITTEE TO SELECT QATAR as host!


adussssss

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post Dec 3 2010, 07:40 PM

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the biggest joke ever in football history. I wonder how many people will be survive under 50c temperature
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post Dec 3 2010, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ Dec 3 2010, 04:40 PM)
y Qatar is a joke? they have the monies, they have the budget unlike m'sia
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Might I suggest you read the reasons given earlier by several posters, myself included?

This applies to anyone of the "why a joke, u think FIFA buta pick wan ah?" persuasion. Instead of stating the obvious ie FIFA has picked Qatar for a reason, why not try discounting several of the negative points posted earlier? If you are going to facepalm someone, at least state your reasons why?
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Whats a world cup without the latinas shaking their.. err.. head? lol....


but, i duno man, islam country like Qatar for sure will raise up rages in Israel.. Havent FiFa considered about that? I mean, this is not a small matter. These are matter causing war in the world. Who knows, FiFa trying to be hero to stop the conflict. by football lul
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 3 2010, 08:48 PM)
hahaha... i pretty sure Qatar and Russia have started negotiating with the Japanese to have that technology in place for them right after the ceromony..

Why would the Japanese hold that technology now for... their (Asia's) realistic next turn to bid would propably be in 2042.
P/s - 2042 really sounds like a science fiction date. If holograms already ready by 2022, the eagerly awaited Jetson's flying cars would propably already in use by 2042 tongue.gif
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That would be wicked cool. I hope they do it. And maybe install one at Stadium Bukit Jalil. I love the Japanese, always one upping everybody with their cool gadgets.
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post Dec 4 2010, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Dec 3 2010, 09:16 PM)
Whats a world cup without the latinas shaking their.. err.. head? lol....
but, i duno man, islam country like Qatar for sure will raise up rages in Israel.. Havent FiFa considered about that? I mean, this is not a small matter. These are matter causing war in the world. Who knows, FiFa trying to be hero to stop the conflict. by football lul
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lets burn the bridge when we get there.... i dunno how they will fare 12 years from now, but Israel still far from qualifying to the world cup...


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post Dec 4 2010, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(bugKecik @ Dec 3 2010, 12:24 AM)
the real joke is most of you all will be ended up only at mamak's. why butthurt so much?
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in the countless, senseless 22 pages of reply, by far the best post laugh.gif

now as for they can or cannot host, too early to call, but was this 2018/22 wc a fiasco to begin with??damn right it is.

that fat lard doesnt even like the english and english football being so successful and jumped at the chance to bar them a rightful and meaningful chance to host the wc.that d*** head needs to step down, i mean ousted dictatorship style(more proper) if were going to see football advance the way it should, and btw platitoninioni falls in the same category too.he aint no better heading uefa either. wink.gif

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 4 2010, 09:28 AM)
lets burn the bridge when we get there.... i dunno how they will fare 12 years from now, but Israel still far from qualifying to the world cup...
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so no Israelite football fan ? Only citizen from country that qualify is eligable to watch?
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Dec 4 2010, 08:43 AM)
in the countless, senseless 22 pages of reply, by far the best post laugh.gif
How do you figure that? Points I raised were not valid?

Yes most of us will still be watching the World Cup naturally. Most here either can't afford (as in my case) or won't bother to fly all the way there. Several socioeconomic roadblocks were brought up earlier so mind telling me how they were senseless? Perhaps you have an answer? The best replies I've seen suggest that all these problems will rectify themselves in 12 years. Not a well thought out assumption, but a possibility nonetheless. I'm guessing everything we read in the media now is senseless to you as well given how the media is responding in shock? I actually applaud the idea of having solar panels harness the extreme sun there to keep temperatures in stadiums below 27 degrees. If this is however, their main selling point, then there are other countries that can do this without any investment at all. They want to promote themselves as a cultural destination (http://articles.cnn.com/2010-05-14/world/qatar.world.cup.solar.cooling_1_stadiums-solar-power-photovoltaic-panels?_s=PM:WORLD)? All good just so long as they are ready to accept that fact that they will be exposed to a multitude of cultures very different from theirs. I hope that from a religious standpoint, this will be possible.

Well I read what's been written and aside from socioeconomic factors, you have demographic ones, not to mention hints of vote buying, something that happened during the bid for the 2006 Asian Games no? Is it conclusive that they bought votes this time? Of course not but even in common law, there is Precedent. FIFA themselves had been involved in a bribery scandal a mere 6 months earlier.

Will any conversation here change anything? Of course not but the purpose of there being a forum, is for discussion and since the rest of the footballing world is talking about it, I'm guessing it's a pretty hot topic. I'm surprised that so few find this a good discussion topic.


Added on December 4, 2010, 9:12 am
QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Dec 4 2010, 09:01 AM)
so no Israelite football fan ? Only citizen from country that qualify is eligable to watch?
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I know this is something some feel may be rectified. It's probably an issue no one sees fit to address at the moment seeing as Israel have not qualified for the World Cup before. The conflict between them and Muslim nations have gone on for a long time. They aren't even recognised as a country. It remains to be seen if Israel will even take part in the qualification rounds. Just came across this article :-

http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-43838520091110

Interesting. Qatar will allow Israel, a nation is does not recognise to take part if they qualify. On one hand, it could be a positive thing. I mean sports has bridged cultural divides before but we're talking about one of the oldest conflicts in the world here. How will the citizens of Qatar take this? How will the rest of the Muslim nations? Will there be safety and security threats for the team?

Alcohol will also be readily available in "fan zones". I'm guessing this means that there will be designated areas within Doha for fans to drink? Good move. I don't think drinking is allowed in stadiums these days, not at the stands anyway.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 4 2010, 10:05 AM)
How do you figure that? Points I raised were not valid?

Yes most of us will still be watching the World Cup naturally. Most here either can't afford (as in my case) or won't bother to fly all the way there. Several socioeconomic roadblocks were brought up earlier so mind telling me how they were senseless? Perhaps you have an answer? The best replies I've seen suggest that all these problems will rectify themselves in 12 years. Not a well thought out assumption, but a possibility nonetheless. I'm guessing everything we read in the media now is senseless to you as well given how the media is responding in shock? I actually applaud the idea of having solar panels harness the extreme sun there to keep temperatures in stadiums below 27 degrees. If this is however, their main selling point, then there are other countries that can do this without any investment at all. They want to promote themselves as a cultural destination (http://articles.cnn.com/2010-05-14/world/qatar.world.cup.solar.cooling_1_stadiums-solar-power-photovoltaic-panels?_s=PM:WORLD)? All good just so long as they are ready to accept that fact that they will be exposed to a multitude of cultures very different from theirs. I hope that from a religious standpoint, this will be possible.

Well I read what's been written and aside from socioeconomic factors, you have demographic ones, not to mention hints of vote buying, something that happened during the bid for the 2006 Asian Games no? Is it conclusive that they bought votes this time? Of course not but even in common law, there is Precedent. FIFA themselves had been involved in a bribery scandal a mere 6 months earlier.

Will any conversation here change anything? Of course not but the purpose of there being a forum, is for discussion and since the rest of the footballing world is talking about it, I'm guessing it's a pretty hot topic. I'm surprised that so few find this a good discussion topic.


Added on December 4, 2010, 9:12 am

I know this is something some feel may be rectified. It's probably an issue no one sees fit to address at the moment seeing as Israel have not qualified for the World Cup before. The conflict between them and Muslim nations have gone on for a long time. They aren't even recognised as a country. It remains to be seen if Israel will even take part in the qualification rounds. Just came across this article :-

http://in.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-43838520091110

Interesting. Qatar will allow Israel, a nation is does not recognise to take part if they qualify. On one hand, it could be a positive thing. I mean sports has bridged cultural divides before but we're talking about one of the oldest conflicts in the world here. How will the citizens of Qatar take this? How will the rest of the Muslim nations? Will there be safety and security threats for the team?

Alcohol will also be readily available in "fan zones". I'm guessing this means that there will be designated areas within Doha for fans to drink? Good move. I don't think drinking is allowed in stadiums these days, not at the stands anyway.
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Now it is the government that proposed the allowance of Israelites in, right? How about those citizens? Im quite sure though that some hardcore Islamic people are going to perform some patterns against these Jews. I mean, im not trying to be racist or something, but these conflict really had inflicted too much war already for us to believe that they would put it down for football.
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Dec 4 2010, 08:43 AM)
in the countless, senseless 22 pages of reply, by far the best post laugh.gif

now as for they can or cannot host, too early to call, but was this 2018/22 wc a fiasco to begin with??damn right it is.

that fat lard doesnt even like the english and english football being so successful and jumped at the chance to bar them a rightful and meaningful chance to host the wc.that d*** head needs to step down, i mean ousted dictatorship style(more proper) if were going to see football advance the way it should, and btw platitoninioni falls in the same category too.he aint no better heading uefa either. wink.gif
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senseless? guess you didn't bother to read all the replies here sweat.gif


agree about Sepp..corruption is the first time that comes to mind whenever someone mention him, along with the other high rank fifa officials..there are claims that he did this because he is aiming for the Nobel prize for promoting football(world cup) to the world with new hosts instead of just europe and america..if he gets it, absolute travesty..if he doesnt get it, well at least he has that as his legacy


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my opinion is.. ntg wrong with qatar or russia for hosting a worldcup. for qatar their are keep shining in this past few years n for sure will be more improved 2022. worldcup should be held in diffrent country. like england n usa they have hosting worldcup b4 this. n they shud understand why they are not selected for the next 12years. oh ya for the country football team just dont underestimated them. they have like 12 years to train n be better. see what happen to japan n korea when they host a world cup? i also dindt expect they can go so far. i sure qatar will suprised us.

owh ya b4 this i heard rumors about malaysia and indonesia are participating in this vote for hosting worldcup. is it true?
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QUOTE(bugKecik @ Dec 2 2010, 07:24 PM)
the real joke is most of you all will be ended up only at mamak's. why butthurt so much?
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true... this will be the most expensive visitors have to spend to watch world cup in the history.
Total extraoridnary rip-off by kerala and pinoy locals mark up price.
I'll be joining the ranks in malaysia mamak watching in my 84" 3D(by 2012 la..) tv.

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what u mean all of us end up in mamak.. not everyone going mamak to watch okay? a few milllion people will go there and we are just discussing about it. Dont have to experience it to talk about it
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 3 2010, 09:51 AM)
Qatar has 2 tries to avoid becoming the first WC host never to qualified to the world cup. Japan escaped by the scruff of their neck in 2002.


Added on December 3, 2010, 9:54 am

thats the problem with England and Spain bid.. they are tooo prepared.. they can hold the world cup tomorrow if you want to...

world cups in USA, korea, Japan and South Africa brings a much higher value and development...
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You sure? I thought host is automatically qualified?
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Dec 4 2010, 03:43 PM)
You sure? I thought host is automatically qualified?
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cant qualify for knockout.
SA also didnt qualify? did they?

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