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clawhammer
post Dec 13 2010, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(emy_xvidia @ Dec 13 2010, 08:46 PM)
featured-wise, i think most of them have equal or slightly less than the samsung counterparts.. but now since it's samsung, its price shud be higher  tongue.gif

perhaps i used d wrong word.. i shudnt put it as 'overpriced' but 'samsung price' instead..  laugh.gif
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No worries but I think Samsung LCD gives better color contrast as opposed to those LG or Acer. That's just my eyes and it can be subjective though smile.gif
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post Dec 13 2010, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Dec 13 2010, 08:40 PM)
If it has better features, colors, etc then it's normal to be a bit more expensive smile.gif Nevertheless, I don't think Samsung is overpriced, look at Dell Ultrasharp or Apple Cinema display and that's what I call super expensive.
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You pay for the premium panel for these monitors. For Ultrasharp, some offer extensive outputs.
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post Dec 13 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(catsper @ Dec 13 2010, 09:07 PM)
You pay for the premium panel for these monitors. For Ultrasharp, some offer extensive outputs.
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He means 24" above. Well we are not professional designer or what what need use those so high end stuff. skip it hahaha
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post Dec 13 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(catsper @ Dec 13 2010, 09:07 PM)
You pay for the premium panel for these monitors. For Ultrasharp, some offer extensive outputs.
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I've used quite a number of LCD's from LG, Samsung, Acer, Asus which are based on TN panels as well as Dell Ultrasharp (IPS panel) currently. The older Ultrasharp models like mine does not have extensive outputs but the newer ones do. As for the so-called premium panel (IPS), if you're into designing then it will make you a difference but if you're just another home user and gamer, a TN panel works just as great smile.gif In fact my VK266H produces brighter colour and contrast as compared to this 3007 WFP because the Ultrasharp series have a layer of protection which gives grainier colours. My friend's 3008WFP on the other hand have input lag issues.

Hence, IPS panels (premium panels) isn't always the best smile.gif Just like any other products, they have their pros/cons. I have to say a good TN LCD is just as beautiful as an IPS LCD for general home users. If someone wants the best looking IPS panel LCD then it's obviously the Apple Cinema display (which is also LED backlit). The drawback would certainly be the price biggrin.gif
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post Dec 13 2010, 11:24 PM

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anyone here owns the Alienware Optx AW2310 monitor? drool.gif

hey, i got a tech question. most LCD today have very high resolution. Is it ok to use a budget video card? cause if so good lcd but graphic card not so powerful also no point right?

also,where u guys shop for monitors?

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post Dec 14 2010, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Kit II @ Dec 13 2010, 11:24 PM)
anyone here owns the Alienware Optx AW2310 monitor?  drool.gif

hey, i got a tech question. most LCD today have very high resolution. Is it ok to use a budget video card? cause if so good lcd but graphic card not so powerful also no point right?

also,where u guys shop for monitors?
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The Graphic card is depend on your need. So, if person only use for visit web, facebook game, watch movie. He no need a powerful graphic card. A heavy gamer which want everything MAX setting then satisfied well he need a very powerful graphic card.

Anyway the most famous resolution now is 1920x1080. 21.5", 23", 24" and some 27" use this resolution. FullHD hehehe.... How should i say...? Currently now most LCD is sticking at this resolution due to customers demand. Higher then that are usually for professional use.

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post Dec 14 2010, 12:33 AM

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Ehh.. bro, i feel so confuse la..

I wanna buy the Dell 24" de but ..

1) U2410 got IPS Panel but dun hv Full HD
2) ST2420 got no IPS Panel but got Full HD somemore contrast so high . Is IPS really important?
3) ppl recommend me U2311H got IPS but not Full HD..

feel very confuse now.. possible to get a Full HD + IPS Panel together?

By the way, i dunno wat is IPS ... lol , ppl say it good so i get only haha.. sorry
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QUOTE(wyyam @ Dec 14 2010, 12:33 AM)
Ehh.. bro, i feel so confuse la..

I wanna buy the Dell 24" de but ..

1) U2410 got IPS Panel but dun hv Full HD
2) ST2420 got no IPS Panel but got Full HD somemore contrast so high . Is IPS really important?
3) ppl recommend me U2311H got IPS but not Full HD..

feel very confuse now.. possible to get a Full HD + IPS Panel together?

By the way, i dunno wat is IPS ... lol , ppl say it good so i get only haha.. sorry
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What do you mean by not full HD?
1920x1080 not full HD?
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post Dec 14 2010, 12:57 AM

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im same like u too.. i need a new monitor. After hearing about the IPS panels superiority in colours,detail and viewing angles but does have some drawbacks.
I mainly use my PC for gaming and some office,internet browsing.
IPS kinda expensive for me.. around rm600-750.
at the same size , could get a alot cheaper TNs

if consider, i could get a good LED TN panel + extra money to upgrade other things at the same price of one IPS monitor. cool2.gif

still not sure which one to get. but i feel.. getting a LED TN is a better deal, cheaper and can upgrade more other things in my pc

As for viewing angles, i dont think i gonna view the monitor from sideways anyway and nobody does that too.. like my previous LCD,the viewing angles doesnt bother me either cause i always view from front, unless lying down on bed to watch movies with that monitor.

but still, IPS is awesome.. maybe if we are tech hungry.. greed for new technology
still confuse in considering tho rclxub.gif

i guess it falls in the budget then.. will research more,
u guys here can give me tips and recommendations too wink.gif

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post Dec 14 2010, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Dec 14 2010, 12:53 AM)
What do you mean by not full HD?
1920x1080 not full HD?
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Eh.. but is not written there FULL HD..
N some got.. why?


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QUOTE(Kit II @ Dec 14 2010, 12:57 AM)
im same like u too.. i need a new monitor. After hearing about the IPS panels superiority in colours,detail and viewing angles but does have some drawbacks.
I mainly use my PC for gaming and some office,internet browsing.
IPS kinda expensive for me.. around rm600-750.
at the same size , could get a alot cheaper TNs

if consider, i could get a good LED TN panel + extra money to upgrade other things at the same price of one IPS monitor.    cool2.gif

still not sure which one to get. but i feel.. getting a LED TN is a better deal, cheaper and can upgrade more other things in my pc

As for viewing angles, i dont think i gonna view the monitor from sideways anyway and nobody does that too.. like my previous LCD,the viewing angles doesnt bother me either cause i always view from front, unless lying down on bed to watch movies with that monitor.

but still, IPS is awesome.. maybe if we are tech hungry.. greed for new technology
still confuse in considering tho  rclxub.gif 

i guess it falls in the budget then.. will research more,
u guys here can give me tips and recommendations too  wink.gif
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yeah.. We r in the same boat..

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post Dec 14 2010, 03:16 AM

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I really want to get a new LCD monitor soon. My old one is starting to act up and I'm tired of fixing them. Plus LCD screens are cheaper to buy than to repair these days anyways.
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guys, any thoughts on this monitor?
Dell Professional P2411H

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post Dec 14 2010, 04:29 AM

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Says the site has encountered a problem. Can't seem to view it. sad.gif
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post Dec 14 2010, 10:32 AM

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Just for clarification, 1920x1080 (16:9) = 1080p = Full HD.
Some 24" has resolution of 1920x1200 (16:10), is bit larger in height than Full HD, you can watch 1080p movie with black bars at top and bottom.

If can please put this information on the first page.
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QUOTE(Bremaine @ Dec 14 2010, 04:29 AM)
Says the site has encountered a problem. Can't seem to view it. sad.gif
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link fixed.
Dell Professional P2411H

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post Dec 14 2010, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 14 2010, 10:32 AM)
Just for clarification, 1920x1080 (16:9) = 1080p = Full HD.
Some 24" has resolution of 1920x1200 (16:10), is bit larger in height than Full HD, you can watch 1080p movie with black bars at top and bottom.

If can please put this information on the first page.
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Ok.. Got it sir !
But I c when they written FULL HD there then got LED.
Why? hmm.gif
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post Dec 14 2010, 01:36 PM

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the LED is the backlit type which use LEDs to light up the screen. other LCD monitor uses CCFL lamps to light up the screen. LED is the new ones smile.gif which is more power saving tho as i heard. i hope you know what is LED right? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Kit II @ Dec 14 2010, 01:36 PM)
the LED is the backlit type which use LEDs to light up the screen. other LCD monitor uses CCFL lamps to light up the screen. LED is the new ones smile.gif which is more power saving tho as i heard. i hope you know what is LED right? laugh.gif
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Yeah, and don't get confused with some not-so-well informed sales person as they'll confuse you backlight with panel technology.
LED does not mean the panel (what you see at the front) is made of LED, it's the backlit technology that makes use of LED shines through the panel (TN, IPS, VA, etc.) that you see.
But according to reviews, there's not much different in power consumption for latest monitor whether it's LED or CCFL backlit, only ~10W at max, which is not significant enough to justify for "normal home" consumer.
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theres OLED type also tho.. these are the real LED panels drool.gif
but dont have for PC monitor now. sad.gif
each single pixels are tiny micro leds that light up itself
They come in very small screen size only for consumers because its expensive.
the picture quality is so godly in OLED,
when you look at it you will > shocking.gif
plus the screen is so thin like a piece of paper. try check out OLED tvs thumbup.gif
LG has one 15". im sure the price is a rocketeer laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Kit II @ Dec 14 2010, 12:57 AM)
but still, IPS is awesome.. maybe if we are tech hungry.. greed for new technology
still confuse in considering tho  rclxub.gif
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If you have owned both TN and IPS panels LCD before, you will understand that IPS panels are nothing great unless you're into designing whereby color calibration is important for you. Other than that, the TN panels are awesome. Besides, no one will sit 145 degrees beside the LCD when they are using the computer.

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