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post Mar 23 2011, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(DaRKMiSt @ Mar 23 2011, 06:02 PM)
how about u30?
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H-IPS,factory calibrated,much bigger size and resolution than the U2410
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post Mar 23 2011, 10:12 PM

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And the probability of getting a defective panel increases with larger sizes, so the cost of manufacturing them to get a good panel is even higher.
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post Mar 24 2011, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Mar 23 2011, 10:12 PM)
And the probability of getting a defective panel increases with larger sizes, so the cost of manufacturing them to get a good panel is even higher.
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manufacturer have acceptable defective pixel count, they can use the panel if there is 1-2 dead pixel (stuck pixel are unacceptable), unless the panel use for professional class lcd like u3011h

finally other manufacturer that release cheap ips/va panel lcd monitor,hope to see tn panel die in shame biggrin.gif
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Acer introduced two new B-series PC monitors that make use of vertical-alignment (VA) panel technology, and LED backlit illumination. The Acer B243HLCOymdr is a 24-inch model, while the B273HLOymidh is the 27-inch part. Both displays feature full-HD (1920 x 1080) resolution, and 100 million to 1 dynamic contrast ratio, providing a "zero bright dot guarantee". With 8 ms response time, the B243HLCOymdr is the snappier among the two, it features 250 cd/m² maximum brightness, and display inputs that include DVI and D-Sub; while the B273HLOymidh has 10 ms response time, 300 cd/m² brightness, and features HDMI input apart from D-Sub and DVI. The stands of both monitors allow rotating, tilting, height adjustment; the 24-inch model even allows pivoting. The Acer B243HLCOymdr and B273HLOymidh are priced at €249 and €399, respectively.

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/hardwar...va-led-monitors

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post Mar 24 2011, 01:46 PM

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going to low yat to buy monitor later.
any good model to recommend? budget <RM350 size min 20"
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post Mar 24 2011, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 23 2011, 11:17 PM)
manufacturer have acceptable defective pixel count, they can use the panel if there is 1-2 dead pixel (stuck pixel are unacceptable), unless the panel use for professional class lcd like u3011h

finally other manufacturer that release cheap ips/va panel lcd monitor,hope to see tn panel die in shame  biggrin.gif

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/hardwar...va-led-monitors
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Really hope it'll be sold here.
Since last year there BenQ and LG have launched multiple cheap VA and IPS panel LCDs [with WLED backlight no less] but none of them got here except for Dell and AOC... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Racerx @ Mar 24 2011, 01:49 PM)
Really hope it'll be sold here.
Since last year there BenQ and LG have launched multiple cheap VA and IPS panel LCDs [with WLED backlight no less] but none of them got here except for Dell and AOC... vmad.gif
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viewsonic also provide ips lcd panel,but expensive than u2311h, benq also stated on their malaysian website, but hardly shop sells benq product, samsung also have in their 2333tn, but their colour and connectivity are total disappoinment, hope acer and lg could follow thumbup.gif
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post Mar 27 2011, 03:18 PM

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Which option is better, a 24" full hd LCD TV these days or a monitor the likes of Viewsonic VX2450wmLED 23.6", LG E2350t 23"
Now the thing is, iirc TVs are made not for near sight viewing but i do know that TV has better viewing quality for watching movies/programs with thier motion engine and wat not, however, unknown quality for gaming
Also recently their prices have also come crashing down to be worthy comparisons
Ill be using the monitor/tv on a desktop PC for both media viewing and gaming purposes

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post Mar 27 2011, 03:24 PM

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in your experience, what is the cheapest price for U3011?

now its RM3300... Is this a good deal?
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post Mar 27 2011, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(absorb-d @ Mar 27 2011, 02:18 PM)
Which option is better, a 24" full hd LCD TV these days or a monitor the likes of Viewsonic VX2450wmLED 23.6", LG E2350t 23"
Now the thing is, iirc TVs are made not for near sight viewing but i do know that TV has better viewing quality for watching movies/programs with thier motion engine and wat not, however, unknown quality for gaming
Also recently their prices have also come crashing down to be worthy comparisons
Ill be using the monitor/tv on a desktop PC for both media viewing and gaming purposes
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Have you tried gaming on a LCD before?If you have then what's the exact model?The reason i'm asking is because older TN panel LCDs are as 'slow' as today's cheap IPS and VA variants found on TVs.Non-TN panel LCDs/TVs have better colours and viewing angles so it'll be more enjoyable if you watch movies/videos on it.
Anyway here's some LCDs that i personally recommend
LG W2343T-PF 23" RM469 [Quite accurate colours,good contrast ratio,cheap]
Dell U2311H 23" RM599 [eIPS panel so accurate and nicely saturated colours,large vertical viewing angles,fast for an IPS,good contrast ratio]


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QUOTE(DaRKMiSt @ Mar 27 2011, 02:24 PM)
in your experience, what is the cheapest price for U3011?

now its RM3300... Is this a good deal?
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I've never seen non-ARB units go below RM3000 before so i think that price is normal for it.

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post Mar 27 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(DaRKMiSt @ Mar 27 2011, 03:24 PM)
in your experience, what is the cheapest price for U3011?

now its RM3300... Is this a good deal?
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Do you really need a single 2560x1600 panel? Because you can buy five U2311H for RM 3,045 and get a 9600x1080 (landscape) or 5,400x1920 (portrait) screen. Or three U2311H for 5760x1080 (landscape) or 3240x1920 (portrait) screen and about RM 1,470 leftover for a graphics card that can drive three monitors at once.
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QUOTE(Racerx @ Mar 27 2011, 03:29 PM)
Have you tried gaming on a LCD before?If you have then what's the exact model?The reason i'm asking is because older TN panel LCDs are as 'slow' as today's cheap IPS and VA variants found on TVs.Non-TN panel LCDs/TVs have better colours and viewing angles so it'll be more enjoyable if you watch movies/videos on it.
Anyway here's some LCDs that i personally recommend
LG W2343T-PF 23" RM469 [Quite accurate colours,good contrast ratio,cheap]
Dell U2311H 23" RM599 [eIPS panel so accurate and nicely saturated colours,large vertical viewing angles,fast for an IPS,good contrast ratio]
thx for reply, but are LCD TV's dot pixel much larger since they had further viewing distance intended

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post Mar 27 2011, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(absorb-d @ Mar 27 2011, 06:26 PM)
thx for reply, but are LCD TV's dot pixel much larger since they had further viewing distance intended
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if it's resolution is 1920x1080 and it's size is 24" then nope.If it's something like a 37" then it'll be much larger
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hey guys
any idea whats the best lcd now for a 21.5in form factor and best valued lcd now ?
my samsung lcd seems to go cuckoo flickering non stop every 10seconds
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post Mar 28 2011, 10:19 AM

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Hi RacerX, how about this LG W2353TQ (16:9) or W2354TQ (16:10)? This 2 LCD monitor ok mah?hmm.gif
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post Mar 28 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Mar 27 2011, 08:41 PM)
hey guys
any idea whats the best lcd now for a 21.5in form factor and best valued lcd now ?
my samsung lcd seems to go cuckoo flickering non stop every 10seconds
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IMO the 'best' 21.5" LCD is the Dell ST2220T at RM759,it has a glossy coating [so higher contrast ratio] and it uses an IPS panel.It is also multitouch capable tongue.gif
For best value,it's the Dell U2311H,23" eIPS LCD,RM599,great colour reproduction,relatively fast,good contrast ratio.
QUOTE(AlanSiew @ Mar 28 2011, 09:19 AM)
Hi RacerX, how about this LG W2353TQ (16:9) or W2354TQ (16:10)? This 2 LCD monitor ok  mah?hmm.gif
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Can't comment on those two since i can't find any reviews nor have i seen them before.
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post Mar 28 2011, 02:25 PM

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Just pamper myself with AOC e2243Fw RAZOR Series 21.5" Ultra Slim, RM 529. Hope it's a good buy...
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post Mar 28 2011, 03:49 PM

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Have the new Samsung models arrived to our shores yet?
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post Mar 28 2011, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Mar 28 2011, 01:57 PM)
IMO the 'best' 21.5" LCD is the Dell ST2220T at RM759,it has a glossy coating [so higher contrast ratio] and it uses an IPS panel.It is also multitouch capable tongue.gif
For best value,it's the Dell U2311H,23" eIPS LCD,RM599,great colour reproduction,relatively fast,good contrast ratio.

Can't comment on those two since i can't find any reviews nor have i seen them before.
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wah IPS panel only Rm599 now ?
what about the TN variant ? should be much cheaper right
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post Mar 28 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Mar 28 2011, 05:15 PM)
wah IPS panel only Rm599 now ?
what about the TN variant ? should be much cheaper right
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Most TN 23" are around RM5XX and they aren't good in terms of colours and viewing angles except for one model i've seen before namely the LG W2343T-PF at RM469,it's colours are relatively accurate and the contrast ratio is good.Viewing angles aren't bad but it's still TN so don't put your hopes too high.
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yeay .. after much read from this thread .. decided on u2311h as per recommended and going to cod right after this with seller biologi biggrin.gif

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