when i drop the heli using throttle hold from a couple of feet up ...
no yaw at all .. HH on the gp750 is solid head on .. hehehe
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May 27 2011, 09:01 AM
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when i drop the heli using throttle hold from a couple of feet up ...
no yaw at all .. HH on the gp750 is solid head on .. hehehe |
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May 27 2011, 09:25 AM
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Have not tried this on the 450 Pro yet .... heheheh sorry for not telling earlier, it was the 4G6 I was talking about .....
Should be something to do with this little heli as I cant find this situation on the other bigger heli as well ..... |
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May 27 2011, 09:57 AM
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my cheapo WALKERA radio do not have throttle hold one laaa
so cannot drop heli without crashing .. hahahaha |
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May 28 2011, 11:33 PM
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Yoooo Yoooo, tomolo is another inverting day!!!
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May 28 2011, 11:43 PM
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another FPV day for me ...
this morning was good ... fly fly then suddenly locked out for 2-3 seconds W T F ????? i was about 300+m out only ... lucky as plane was dropping i got back signal and managed to bring that thing back home safely i had previously flown to around or over 700m without any probs ... i will have to do something about rc range but the image on my NEW GOGGLES is very very good ... much better than my old one ... but of coz the price oso much much better laa .. hahahahahaa now running wireless goggles with head tracker ... powered from radio so only 1 wire on me and i can walk around too .. hehehe |
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May 29 2011, 12:48 AM
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Too bad i am not living near to u or else i will go and feel ur fpv poison already .... Hehehe
Added on May 29, 2011, 9:46 pmAlamak, Align's 450 Pro main shaft bearing so weak. Well, I crashed my 450 Pro today and just a minor crash the main shaft bearings are gone. Hehehe, main gear, main shaft, flybar and main blade have to replace. But it looks like the feathering shaft survive loh .... using a screw driver and turn it but can't seem to see something on the blade grip. This post has been edited by daddoo: May 29 2011, 09:46 PM |
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May 29 2011, 11:47 PM
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i will prolly be getting a new set which is more powerful for my FPV
so will sell off my OLD SET CHEAP when i decide to do that heli crashes are unpredictable one laaa .. so parts damage count oso unpredictable ... thing i hate with heli is .. after u fix everything u can SEE DAMAGED and u go fly it and something else comes up .. hahahaha |
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May 30 2011, 09:58 AM
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Dammit... my rotor head screw snapped... rotor fly out... crash!!!
Damage... 1: 1pc hex screw 2: 1 hex bolt/nut 3: Align T head for 450 sport |
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May 30 2011, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ May 29 2011, 11:47 PM) i will prolly be getting a new set which is more powerful for my FPV That's my worry, it was actually crashing down during inverting. A bit surprise when the feathering shaft is still good. so will sell off my OLD SET CHEAP when i decide to do that heli crashes are unpredictable one laaa .. so parts damage count oso unpredictable ... thing i hate with heli is .. after u fix everything u can SEE DAMAGED and u go fly it and something else comes up .. hahahaha But still I think I wont replace this until I found something on it. Hehehe, removing the feathering shaft should be simpler comparing to changing my main shaft bearing. Added on May 30, 2011, 11:22 am QUOTE(calvin_ng @ May 30 2011, 09:58 AM) Dammit... my rotor head screw snapped... rotor fly out... crash!!! Your "jesus bolt"? The screw that locking the head with the main shaft?Damage... 1: 1pc hex screw 2: 1 hex bolt/nut 3: Align T head for 450 sport That one cannot be over tighten. Just nicely lock the bolt and threadlock will be fine. This post has been edited by daddoo: May 30 2011, 11:22 AM |
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May 30 2011, 05:55 PM
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Qiw sell me la ur fpv
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May 30 2011, 06:06 PM
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repairing crashes should be a NORM already for RC flyers
i repair and fix and assemble planes quite often .. hahahahaa mr shock .. my CHEAPO FPV setup may not meet up to your expectations laaa .. worry u complain .. hehehehe |
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May 30 2011, 07:55 PM
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Qiw, is that normal that the tail yaw to left slower and yaw to right faster because of the main rotor torque?
I can feel that right piro is faster or did I have something wrong in the setup? |
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May 30 2011, 10:22 PM
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if your piro rates are slightly different ... adjust your end points
if u have equal travel on both directions and tail blade has no or very little countering pitch when servo is centered then for sure one direction piro will always be faster than the other due to main rotor torque adjust using your dual rate for rudder .. leave the end point adjustment on the gyro and travel adjust alone Added on May 30, 2011, 10:28 pmor if u do not wanna touch the radio setup then do this preferable method (i did it this way) ... then u have to do the rate mode style rudder setup like for the older gy401 put your gyro into rate mode (gain is same % as your head hold) instead of head hold ... then try and hover your heli u will find the heli tail wanna swing to the right ie. no countering torque adjust the linkage to provide more pitch to counter the tail going right ... normally is until about 8 degree pitch (almost impossible to gauge by eye unless u expert) ... when u can hover the heli in rate mode relatively stable without the tail drifting too much (damm hard to get perfect no drift) and no rudder input correction ... then u are done and no need to adjust radio or any other electronics put your gyro back into head hold mode ... test your piro and u will see that left and right piro rates will be the same This post has been edited by QiW: May 30 2011, 10:28 PM |
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May 30 2011, 11:46 PM
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Qiw, can la for a start.. Decent quality ok, if i have more interest then ill invest on better one
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May 31 2011, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(sLapshock @ May 30 2011, 11:46 PM) the stuff i am letting go is200mW 900mhz vtx with stock antenna + cloverleaf CP modded antenna 900mhz vrx with stock antenna + skew planar wheel CP modded antenna this GOGGLES ... but i have added blinders at the side and top to block out sunlight when outdoors with hot glue ... oso the right side ear support broke due to over enthusiastic to wear it one morning but repaired with hot glue nice nice oso basic 420tvl camera with 3.6mm lens ( changed to this lens .. glass type and very clear) stock lens is prolly 16mm or so and plastic lens .. not usable for FPV unless u wanna crash .. hehehehe i have oso made a mount for the camera so u can just bolt it onto your plane with 2 screw or to a servo horn and servo to use for panning (i dont use tilt). this system i have tested to horizontal distance 800m (checked distance on google map) with perfect video so LOS prolly 900m or more ... all connecting cables included .. u will need a 3S to power the vrx and a 3S to power the vtx (u can splice power from your main flight battery for vtx if u dont wanna use separate 3S) thats all u need to fly ... plane and rc controller all not included of coz .. hahaahahahahahahaaa |
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May 31 2011, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ May 30 2011, 10:22 PM) if your piro rates are slightly different ... adjust your end points Let me try to understand what you were saying.if u have equal travel on both directions and tail blade has no or very little countering pitch when servo is centered then for sure one direction piro will always be faster than the other due to main rotor torque adjust using your dual rate for rudder .. leave the end point adjustment on the gyro and travel adjust alone Added on May 30, 2011, 10:28 pmor if u do not wanna touch the radio setup then do this preferable method (i did it this way) ... then u have to do the rate mode style rudder setup like for the older gy401 put your gyro into rate mode (gain is same % as your head hold) instead of head hold ... then try and hover your heli u will find the heli tail wanna swing to the right ie. no countering torque adjust the linkage to provide more pitch to counter the tail going right ... normally is until about 8 degree pitch (almost impossible to gauge by eye unless u expert) ... when u can hover the heli in rate mode relatively stable without the tail drifting too much (damm hard to get perfect no drift) and no rudder input correction ... then u are done and no need to adjust radio or any other electronics put your gyro back into head hold mode ... test your piro and u will see that left and right piro rates will be the same Well. The length of the tail shaft will always be fixed, so it gives you the absolute value of pitch all the time. For example, 20 degrees with +10/-10 or +13/-7 or +15/-5. Just assumption! If we do that in rate mode then at servo horn centered, then it should be around 8 degrees (counter torque). But then although servo horn is centered and now your tail pitch slider not center already. From there isn't it the tail pitch will still be only +10/-10 and it just that your center the servo horn (not tail pitch slider) with +8 and maybe you have another +2 to counter the torque only. In this situation will it still giving the same piro speed on both direction? The 450 Pro has a fixed position to install the servo so is that possible to achieve uneven tail pitch? Like +13/-7 or +15/-5 |
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May 31 2011, 10:48 AM
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yes ... center the servo ... adjust the linkage only
forgot .. after that u need to set the end points on the gyro again your tail pitch is not supposed to be even for both sides at maximum travel .. unless u do not need counter torque la if u still not happy ... then do the flip the tail grip mod like finless bob did ( i oso did that la ) .. give slightly more travel for the counter torque side done the above and i have found my piro rates on both sides are approximately the same .. tail pitch slider is not an indication of anything except that if it is centered then u get equal travel on both sides which is not what we want for countering the torque .. in hover position u will need some counter torque ... thats why slider is not at center when your rudder is in neutral position ... that is the nature of this PRO ... v2 may be slightly different coz it seems to have some counter torque when slider is at center another mod that i did was to lengthen the tail shaft to give more counter torque ... hehehehe |
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May 31 2011, 03:10 PM
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Wah qiw, thats some complicated stuff man...izzit pnp? Im using pheonix 2000 glider anyway...
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May 31 2011, 03:18 PM
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all u have to do is ....
fix the camera onto plane fix vtx and antenna onto plane provide a power source for the vtx and camera ... 3S lipo is fine the cables are provided then u need to plug in the goggles to the vrx ... charge the goggles batt (USB charge cable porvided along with A/C adapter) b4 use provide power to the vrx ... 3S lipo here is oso fine then all u have to do is NOT CRASH ... hahahahaaa YES ... everything plug and play ... but u will still need to mount the camera and antenna laa |
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May 31 2011, 03:33 PM
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