ape yg akw perasan mase asian games tu, skuad kite nye player kurang skill dan kreativity..care dorang maen x strategik mungkin sbb bukan first eleven nye player yg maen..
so, akw mmng xsabar nak tunggu game lawan jawa nie..harp2 coach bleh bawak sume player2 first eleven yg mantap2..
How about his brother Zaquan ? We cannot rely too much on Norsharul Idlan
didn't we have a young striker, pretty tall and tough build goes by the name Syakir IINM. i was actually quite impressed by him last time i saw him play
and regarding the Suzuki Cup, are we sending the senior team or the U23 team to the tournament? am a little bit in the dark over our national team policy now
didn't we have a young striker, pretty tall and tough build goes by the name Syakir IINM. i was actually quite impressed by him last time i saw him play
and regarding the Suzuki Cup, are we sending the senior team or the U23 team to the tournament? am a little bit in the dark over our national team policy now
coach RG has a soft spot for the twins batch (current U23) as he has moulded them since the U19. If all are fit, he will likely use U23 with a little bit of spice from senior players.. normally he selects Amri Yahya, Safee Sali or Norhafiz Zamani to help the juniors.
but with current spat of injuries to the twins batch, it will be interesting who RG will call up to add more steel... but it is very rare for RG to call up players he never called up before...
Added on November 17, 2010, 7:50 am
QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 17 2010, 07:05 AM)
Dun simply said "heard", source??? Is it all place and area of Indonesia got volcano..... ??
some facebook talks... someone mention a TV3 reporter told him soo... you can treat it as just a wild rumour for now..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 17 2010, 07:50 AM
ooo cannot r? i tot, if the parent is malaysian, then can play for our country. haha
Not sure lah can or not. But normally people migrate out of Malaysia because of work/cannot tahan to live in Malaysia already.
Somemore, the boy practically born and raised in Aussie, what are the odds of him playing for Malaysia?
There are players which born in A country but played for B country. It is possible. The question is, does he willing to? And do FAM/Malaysia/Coaches want him? Same can be said of that Titus Palani guy.
china lost. that's good news. i still can't get over the fact that they won against us 3-0 with dirty tactics and home turf advantage (not to mention, the bias referee)
Eh for a while i tot u guys are talking about me...u know, namesake and being in OZ and so on...
QUOTE(boxsystem @ Nov 17 2010, 01:44 PM)
Not sure lah can or not. But normally people migrate out of Malaysia because of work/cannot tahan to live in Malaysia already.
Somemore, the boy practically born and raised in Aussie, what are the odds of him playing for Malaysia?
There are players which born in A country but played for B country. It is possible. The question is, does he willing to? And do FAM/Malaysia/Coaches want him? Same can be said of that Titus Palani guy.
Well he definitely have OZ passport since OZ also practice the same citizenship rule as Msia, ie. born here = citizenship. But whether he has Malaysian passport or not, is another issue....but as far as i know, i've got an OZ friend whose parents is Singaporean, and he cant enter Singapore anymore, because if he enters he will have to do NS. so that means he is also considered as Singaporean. Therefore if Singapore have the same citizenship rules as Msia, then this could apply for him as well.
On the other hand, Malaysia have this rule where if you gained citizenship of another country, your Malaysian citizenship will be revoked.
But i dont think he will wanna play for Msia la, if he's got a chance he would play for Australia.
Eh for a while i tot u guys are talking about me...u know, namesake and being in OZ and so on... Well he definitely have OZ passport since OZ also practice the same citizenship rule as Msia, ie. born here = citizenship. But whether he has Malaysian passport or not, is another issue....but as far as i know, i've got an OZ friend whose parents is Singaporean, and he cant enter Singapore anymore, because if he enters he will have to do NS. so that means he is also considered as Singaporean. Therefore if Singapore have the same citizenship rules as Msia, then this could apply for him as well.
On the other hand, Malaysia have this rule where if you gained citizenship of another country, your Malaysian citizenship will be revoked.
But i dont think he will wanna play for Msia la, if he's got a chance he would play for Australia.
oh like dat r. hurm, then we have to wait for a talent that born n stay in Malaysia..
Eh for a while i tot u guys are talking about me...u know, namesake and being in OZ and so on... Well he definitely have OZ passport since OZ also practice the same citizenship rule as Msia, ie. born here = citizenship. But whether he has Malaysian passport or not, is another issue....but as far as i know, i've got an OZ friend whose parents is Singaporean, and he cant enter Singapore anymore, because if he enters he will have to do NS. so that means he is also considered as Singaporean. Therefore if Singapore have the same citizenship rules as Msia, then this could apply for him as well.
On the other hand, Malaysia have this rule where if you gained citizenship of another country, your Malaysian citizenship will be revoked.
But i dont think he will wanna play for Msia la, if he's got a chance he would play for Australia.
thats the question.. playing in the A-League does not give you to best advantage to attract Aussie National Manager as most top players in australia national team plays outside Australia .. he have to consider with age catching up, as a profesional player, you want to taste playing international football..
i dont think he have a chance to play for Australia.. its now a question of wether he have the correct documentation to play for Malaysia and then, will the our national coach find him usefull..
any experiment of this nature i think best applied after the AFF Cup... i think Titus also has sort out his PR problem and can return to malaysia if we call him up..
Squad picked by when? Hopefully get good left back, Assasrudin was bad in GuangZhou.
no news so far. RG said he wants his players to take a good rest first then training. btw, our fullback Sabre Abu, in his FB, said that he is fully recovered from his injury
This post has been edited by AKace: Nov 17 2010, 11:46 PM
thats the question.. playing in the A-League does not give you to best advantage to attract Aussie National Manager as most top players in australia national team plays outside Australia .. he have to consider with age catching up, as a profesional player, you want to taste playing international football..
i dont think he have a chance to play for Australia.. its now a question of wether he have the correct documentation to play for Malaysia and then, will the our national coach find him usefull..
any experiment of this nature i think best applied after the AFF Cup... i think Titus also has sort out his PR problem and can return to malaysia if we call him up..
problem is he is born and raised in Australia, his parents from Malaysia doesnt mean much to him to be honest, maybe go back once in a while to visit datuk nenek at most. I know a lot of locals whose parents are from other places and they are just as Australian as the regular OZ blokes. If he doesnt gets chosen by the Australian national team, then he will most probably just stay where he is. Besides, who knows what could have happen in 5 years time? maybe he can represent Australia at the age of 27? will he wanna ruin that chance and commit to Malaysia which means he wont be eligible for Australia anymore? What im trying to say is, if i am in Brendan (Gan, not Brendan me ) shoes, i will try my best to play for Australia..playing for Malaysia will just close that opportunity. The only link he has with Malaysia is his parents, and the link he has with Australia is his whole life, his childhood memories, his friends etc. no second guessing on where his heart would lie at.
Titus is different from him, Titus was born in Malaysia and grew up during his childhood in Malaysia, he left for France just like any other football players playing abroad. I think the reason he has trouble representing the team is because of tight schedule playing in France and trials with many teams for his club career?
Also u arent right about the Socceroos not choosing A-league players for matches. Previous manager Pim verbeek is the manager who experimented with the most A-league youngsters as OZ manager. Plus if u are good in A-League, Europe teams will come knocking so either way as long as you are good, you will get the chance.
This post has been edited by pyroboy1911: Nov 18 2010, 12:11 AM
good news indeed... hoping to hear good news from azmi muslim and aidil zafuan as well... the defense really need shoring up..
Added on November 18, 2010, 12:40 am
QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Nov 18 2010, 12:11 AM)
problem is he is born and raised in Australia, his parents from Malaysia doesnt mean much to him to be honest, maybe go back once in a while to visit datuk nenek at most. I know a lot of locals whose parents are from other places and they are just as Australian as the regular OZ blokes. If he doesnt gets chosen by the Australian national team, then he will most probably just stay where he is. Besides, who knows what could have happen in 5 years time? maybe he can represent Australia at the age of 27? will he wanna ruin that chance and commit to Malaysia which means he wont be eligible for Australia anymore? What im trying to say is, if i am in Brendan (Gan, not Brendan me ) shoes, i will try my best to play for Australia..playing for Malaysia will just close that opportunity. The only link he has with Malaysia is his parents, and the link he has with Australia is his whole life, his childhood memories, his friends etc. no second guessing on where his heart would lie at.
Titus is different from him, Titus was born in Malaysia and grew up during his childhood in Malaysia, he left for France just like any other football players playing abroad. I think the reason he has trouble representing the team is because of tight schedule playing in France and trials with many teams for his club career? Also u arent right about the Socceroos not choosing A-league players for matches. Previous manager Pim verbeek is the manager who experimented with the most A-league youngsters as OZ manager. Plus if u are good in A-League, Europe teams will come knocking so either way as long as you are good, you will get the chance.
i have no doubt that he is Australian through and through... but representing other country, although not the the best disireble option, is till a better option than not representing any country at all.. he already said in the tv program that he will consider it..
yes.. of course the manager will experiment with players from the league.. but mostly for fringe positions.. and the places are very limited... i am not sure if Brendan is cut out..
due to salary cap enforcement, the best Australian players plays in the Far and Middle east teams which is much more competetive in terms of salary and competetion. these players also manage to advertise themselves in Asian Champions's League.. whcih is much more attractive to the national team managers making it a bottleneck for A-League players..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 18 2010, 12:40 AM
good news indeed... hoping to hear good news from azmi muslim and aidil zafuan as well... the defense really need shoring up..
Added on November 18, 2010, 12:40 am
i have no doubt that he is Australian through and through... but representing other country, although not the the best disireble option, is till a better option than not representing any country at all.. he already said in the tv program that he will consider it..
yes.. of course the manager will experiment with players from the league.. but mostly for fringe positions.. and the places are very limited... i am not sure if Brendan is cut out..
due to salary cap enforcement, the best Australian players plays in the Far and Middle east teams which is much more competetive in terms of salary and competetion. these players also manage to advertise themselves in Asian Champions's League.. whcih is much more attractive to the national team managers making it a bottleneck for A-League players..
No idea where to watch that tv program, but if he does say that then maybe one day la...who knows.
well there is a realization that the main Socceroos players are in their 30s now, as during the World Cup 2010 Australia have the oldest average squad age i think. Players like Cahill, Kewell, Bresciano, Neill, Emerton etc..gonna retire before the next world cup. So like it or not, they gotta start with young ones and most of them are in A-League, though some of them are currently playing in Europe countries like Holland (Gosh, Holland influence in OZ football is HUGE!) and Belgium.
Anyway i still hope Titus gonna play for country sooner or later.
This post has been edited by pyroboy1911: Nov 18 2010, 01:03 AM
re : Titus. i always thought that the reason he didn't play for our national team was because he is not good enough, no?
my view of him is he is not good enough also... France 3rd/4th division is hardly a good yardstick.. football most propably played close to semi-pro or amateur level there.. but i could be wrong..
he did mention in an interview with Astro Arenas's Kafe Sukan that he was once successful with a trial with PSG.. but due to PSG's change of management, there was no follow up..
he didn't play for our national team because he do not want to jeopardize his PR application by leaving France ... which is.. to me is acceptable...
To me, before he prove himself with the national team or national league, he will join other players who venture overseas but come back and end up playing worse than local players...
he plays left back now... coincidentally, that is the position that we lack quality players.. so we actually need all the help we can get..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 18 2010, 10:45 AM
emmm. y maldive at 146?? y Antigua and Barbuda at 115?? y Congo DR at 129?
but malaysia at 150??
how come others country got so much point??
FIFA doing some conspiracy to put our squad like this...emmm
is it others country above us win major cup?? win every single fifa match?? our team is not to bad...not to great..but y country like i mention above us??
This post has been edited by fhatz: Nov 18 2010, 06:20 PM
we have been concentrating on u-23 squad for too long and usually u-23 match doesn't give as much point as senior squad match.thus why we're rotting at a ridiculous place when,in theory,we should be at least outside the top-100
emmm. y maldive at 146?? y Antigua and Barbuda at 115?? y Congo DR at 129?
but malaysia at 150??
how come others country got so much point??
FIFA doing some conspiracy to put our squad like this...emmm
is it others country above us win major cup?? win every single fifa match?? our team is not to bad...not to great..but y country like i mention above us??
one question, what FIFA get if they doing some conspiracy to put our squad like this 2nd they (country like i mention above) deserve to get point, as i remember Congo make a big surprise by beat Ghana last year and this year they draw with Cameroon, they get better point when beat better team
then we will ask why we still in 150th ranking even we win a championship and a big match like beat South Korea, it simply we win a Pestabola Merdeka where only weak team compete which we only win a little point, we beat South Korea but they just line-up university student not their U23 player, yes we win Sukan SEA but it just a minor tournament so we only a little point there
but u23 or u19 consider national squad right...i try google how FIFAK do there calculation..
for me..we should be around 100-+ not like this rank..
Added on November 18, 2010, 6:32 pm
QUOTE(faris21 @ Nov 18 2010, 06:28 PM)
one question, what FIFA get if they doing some conspiracy to put our squad like this 2nd they (country like i mention above) deserve to get point, as i remember Congo make a big surprise by beat Ghana last year and this year they draw with Cameroon, they get better point when beat better team
then we will ask why we still in 150th ranking even we win a championship and a big match like beat South Korea, it simply we win a Pestabola Merdeka where only weak team compete which we only win a little point, we beat South Korea but they just line-up university student not their U23 player, yes we win Sukan SEA but it just a minor tournament so we only a little point there
but what i know..if win national match get point..not mention good team or normal team...but if big tournament yaa...bigger point...anyway thankx for sharing...
dont said congo lar...just see small2 country..where they get all point..emmm
anyway congo n congo DR diff right?? hahaha
This post has been edited by fhatz: Nov 18 2010, 06:34 PM
we just played 3 international matches this year according to FIFA and we've played so many unrecognized games against CLUBS . FAM, work harder pls! we need moar international matches! not against clubs!
This post has been edited by AKace: Nov 18 2010, 08:41 PM
For me this is fair enough to get 150th in FIFA ranking, i m not sure how we gonna get into top 100th, any higher ranking In't team that we can beat? Please list down, try count it how many time we have to beat them, how many tournament we have to win to get into top 100th?? As i know any U23 match do not count as international "A" matches.
Maldives at 146 Antigua and Barbuda at 115 Congo DR at 129
Well, we should ask them for friendly match then...
QUOTE(AKace @ Nov 18 2010, 11:03 PM)
what's the point of being highly ranked without many titles in hands? for instance, Datuk LCW
Datuk Lee have win a lot open title what, at least he have beat Lin Dan b4.... Do our Malaysia beat Japan, Australia, Brazil or Spai b4??? No.... so now what is the point we need higher ranking...
Well, we should ask them for friendly match then...
Datuk Lee have win a lot open title what, at least he have beat Lin Dan b4.... Do our Malaysia beat Japan, Australia, Brazil or Spai b4??? No.... so now what is the point we need higher ranking...
It's cost a lot I think because we need to support all their cost to come to this country and accommodation etc
Datuk Lee not the strongest shuttler but rank high. Malaysia rank below but strong compare to higher rank team. Opposite
I guess it's hard to say which teams are stronger based on the individual rankings alone - 150th vs 149th, but try look at it from a bigger picture - and you could sort of see the trends where each nation belongs, rightly.
If we're good enough, we'd be right up there in the top 10, or top 20. But look at the top 100 teams - does anyone seriously feel that we belong there, based on our recent performances? Even Bolivia, who manage to beat the likes of Brazil and Argentina, are only in 99th.
So while we may be able to beat teams above us, we are, deservedly, within that grouping range.
Datuk Lee have win a lot open title what, at least he have beat Lin Dan b4.... Do our Malaysia beat Japan, Australia, Brazil or Spai b4??? No.... so now what is the point we need higher ranking...
compare his achievements with Lin Dan's achievements
It's cost a lot I think because we need to support all their cost to come to this country and accommodation etc
Datuk Lee not the strongest shuttler but rank high. Malaysia rank below but strong compare to higher rank team. Opposite
Dun said about money... where is the 8 digit gone now...so this is why our president said better spend on F1 now... although it will spend more than 8 digit...
QUOTE(AKace @ Nov 19 2010, 02:09 AM)
compare his achievements with Lin Dan's achievements
No... u guys r compare Datuk Lee and football team, Datuk Lee at least have beat the strongest player b4, he still deserve to be ranking no.1.... Our football team, do they beat other strongest football team b4, no..? can they beat Japan, Iran, North Korea... or have we play at world cup the biggest football tournament b4, ok..how about Asian Cup?? Opps.. i try not to remember we have been the host b4...because is shame to remember. Well, do ur calculation which one deserve better ranking... If we want better ranking, please win AFF Suzuki cup first, fight a spot for World Cup 2014 or at least for Asia Cup 2015, if we want our football team to be better n better, please stop said: "Sayang boy, u ad try ur best, we pround of u all".
This post has been edited by nakata101: Nov 19 2010, 06:54 AM
for me. the rank doesnt matter. i hope national team will not concentrate only on u-23 player. include more senior player la. bcoz they got the experience.
Dun said about money... where is the 8 digit gone now...so this is why our president said better spend on F1 now... although it will spend more than 8 digit... No... u guys r compare Datuk Lee and football team, Datuk Lee at least have beat the strongest player b4, he still deserve to be ranking no.1.... Our football team, do they beat other strongest football team b4, no..? can they beat Japan, Iran, North Korea... or have we play at world cup the biggest football tournament b4, ok..how about Asian Cup?? Opps.. i try not to remember we have been the host b4...because is shame to remember. Well, do ur calculation which one deserve better ranking... If we want better ranking, please win AFF Suzuki cup first, fight a spot for World Cup 2014 or at least for Asia Cup 2015, if we want our football team to be better n better, please stop said: "Sayang boy, u ad try ur best, we pround of u all".
if we want our football team to be better and better, thats precisely the thing we must say. You yourself will feel better and want to do more if you feel your effort is appreciated. Whats the difference with them...
comparisons with Japan, Iran and North Korea are unproductive with our condition right now.. instead of taking a long impossible step by doing that... our strategy is to take small steps but with resolve to stay in the right direction.
we mostly feel proud, because teams of yesteryears would normally crumble down and die when the chips are down.. but SEA Games and Asian Games team consistently showed they are not..
Added on November 19, 2010, 8:21 am
QUOTE(miketee @ Nov 19 2010, 01:37 AM)
I guess it's hard to say which teams are stronger based on the individual rankings alone - 150th vs 149th, but try look at it from a bigger picture - and you could sort of see the trends where each nation belongs, rightly.
If we're good enough, we'd be right up there in the top 10, or top 20. But look at the top 100 teams - does anyone seriously feel that we belong there, based on our recent performances? Even Bolivia, who manage to beat the likes of Brazil and Argentina, are only in 99th.
So while we may be able to beat teams above us, we are, deservedly, within that grouping range.
agree.. i think pointing system they use in the ranking is fair... we really do not have the team to break into top 100 right now... even Thailand, and Vietnam , the best teams in South East Asia for some time now, still cannot break into them.. so no... better close that book for a while..
With our recent performance, i think our target range should be to improve to 100-120 range... by recent friendly results, we have beaten teams from that region, so it will be a fair target..
FIFA ranking is very important for seeding purpose... our world cup and Asia cup qualifying tanked most of the time because we met too strong team too early..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 19 2010, 09:07 AM
if you can't feel proud for the team that giving their all e.g. our depleted team in the Asian Games, then that is your problem. don't go telling people to stop feel that way
i don't usually comment on the national team due to lack of information and playing time coverage for them. however i will say this, i am very proud of the national team performances in the Asian Games even i do not really happy with the tactics deployed(i guess the (un)availability of the players forced Coach Raja hand in playing all those tactics). it really showed that we are in the right track to rebuilt our national football team
now, on to AFF Cup. hopefully we will have more of the regulars for this i.e. Baddrol, Sabree, the N9 twin etc
This post has been edited by toshio14: Nov 19 2010, 08:29 AM
Maldives at 146 Antigua and Barbuda at 115 Congo DR at 129
yaa..that right...hahaha
Added on November 19, 2010, 9:09 am
QUOTE(watever-u-like @ Nov 19 2010, 07:23 AM)
for me. the rank doesnt matter. i hope national team will not concentrate only on u-23 player. include more senior player la. bcoz they got the experience.
yaa..but they need to mix all the player.. if all senior cannot used lar...
last time all senior kenot pakai..lost even worst..more embarrassing
senior player or more than 23 age like nor farhan,hafiz,amirulhadi and few senior player that still good in shape for international match..
but not hairuddin omar..hahaha
This post has been edited by fhatz: Nov 19 2010, 09:21 AM
if we want our football team to be better and better, thats precisely the thing we must say. You yourself will feel better and want to do more if you feel your effort is appreciated. Whats the difference with them...
comparisons with Japan, Iran and North Korea are unproductive with our condition right now.. instead of taking a long impossible step by doing that... our strategy is to take small steps but with resolve to stay in the right direction.
we mostly feel proud, because teams of yesteryears would normally crumble down and die when the chips are down.. but SEA Games and Asian Games team consistently showed they are not..
Lets see how long they will take.... hope not running around a small circle....
QUOTE(toshio14 @ Nov 19 2010, 08:28 AM)
if you can't feel proud for the team that giving their all e.g. our depleted team in the Asian Games, then that is your problem. don't go telling people to stop feel that way i don't usually comment on the national team due to lack of information and playing time coverage for them. however i will say this, i am very proud of the national team performances in the Asian Games even i do not really happy with the tactics deployed(i guess the (un)availability of the players forced Coach Raja hand in playing all those tactics). it really showed that we are in the right track to rebuilt our national football team
now, on to AFF Cup. hopefully we will have more of the regulars for this i.e. Baddrol, Sabree, the N9 twin etc
I have no problem with this, why i should have it?? Actually i should feel pround like u guys, but untill i find out who we play with, i suddenly turn back the pround feeling, i find out the Japan U23 is not U23, but only U21, that is nothing, then i check their player game stated, i find out many of them still play for University club, some play for JL2, some even still on reserved team, never play for starting at all.... the worse thing is they said they dint play their best at all which mean they have underestimate us....about China U23, this one more worst, i mean the china U23 team totally suxx, after the game which Korea of Republic beat them 3-0, some of the Korea player said that they feel they are playing with school kid players.... China ppl also said China woman team also can beat them... so u guys think this is ok.... still can feel pround bcoz we look better than b4.... that ok for u n other, but i m here to tell the facts, not try to give hurt feeling.
for me. the rank doesnt matter. i hope national team will not concentrate only on u-23 player. include more senior player la. bcoz they got the experience.
I'm the opposite. I would rather focus on younger players than relying on our seniors who aren't going to get any better. In fact, I hope that they concentrate on even younger players who have room to grow and develop.
Whilst not an accurate yardstick, the Asian games does give us some idea of where we will be in a couple of years. Players are all U-23 but that also means that come countries could have fielded even younger players. If this is the case, then we're likely to see the gulf in standards widen as their players develop before graduating for the senior side. It depends on how much more exposure our younger lads will get up to then.
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Lets see how long they will take.... hope not running around a small circle.... I have no problem with this, why i should have it?? Actually i should feel pround like u guys, but untill i find out who we play with, i suddenly turn back the pround feeling, i find out the Japan U23 is not U23, but only U21, that is nothing, then i check their player game stated, i find out many of them still play for University club, some play for JL2, some even still on reserved team, never play for starting at all.... the worse thing is they said they dint play their best at all which mean they have underestimate us....about China U23, this one more worst, i mean the china U23 team totally suxx, after the game which Korea of Republic beat them 3-0, some of the Korea player said that they feel they are playing with school kid players.... China ppl also said China woman team also can beat them... so u guys think this is ok.... still can feel pround bcoz we look better than b4.... that ok for u n other, but i m here to tell the facts, not try to give hurt feeling.
i shouldn't have said 'your problem'. what i meant was if you can't feel proud for the (depleted) national team that giving their all, then that's your thing. do not go and tell other people they should have not feel proud also
the main problem with majority of the fans (those that i know and see) is that when come to criticizing our national team, they tend to
1. have problem in accepting where our national team are now; ability-wise, ranking-wise comparatively to other big Asian football nations 2. which lead to unrealistic expectation 3. which in turn lead to not acknowledging any kind of improvement that we've made
so as long as we do not accept that we are no longer (long time already la) 1 of the Asian football powerhouse, we will always see the kind of criticism that you were throwing to the national team performances. heck, we are not even the top team in SEA region anymore
Lets see how long they will take.... hope not running around a small circle.... I have no problem with this, why i should have it?? Actually i should feel pround like u guys, but untill i find out who we play with, i suddenly turn back the pround feeling, i find out the Japan U23 is not U23, but only U21, that is nothing, then i check their player game stated, i find out many of them still play for University club, some play for JL2, some even still on reserved team, never play for starting at all.... the worse thing is they said they dint play their best at all which mean they have underestimate us....about China U23, this one more worst, i mean the china U23 team totally suxx, after the game which Korea of Republic beat them 3-0, some of the Korea player said that they feel they are playing with school kid players.... China ppl also said China woman team also can beat them... so u guys think this is ok.... still can feel pround bcoz we look better than b4.... that ok for u n other, but i m here to tell the facts, not try to give hurt feeling.
again.. U21 and U23 are no much different... half of our team are U21 and semi professional also...
and regarding China.. they are still favourite against us.. but seing their result against Kyrgyzstan, Japan and South Korea, there are definitely beatable by us... please don't use the 3-0 as a yardstick.. that was a false match...
if you must, please use our friendly vs China senior in 2009... we used this very team minus the red cards and injuries...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 19 2010, 04:15 PM
Badminton player got a lot of incentives, y? bcos abang najip suka tengok badminton kok. football players earn low income, n thy only can play til 32-34 y-o. how bad would b if thy r poor? tat is y many malaysian football talents choose not to continue football career, thy choose to make some money for better life. tau? kalo gaji merka macam gaji u18 EPL players, saya pun mau main bola, kan? harap2 la next Prime Minister likes to watch football. ok?
btw, jersey msia NICE!! macam tiger yo. heard tat there is a sentence inside da shirt, "Tanah tumpahnya darahku". wow... thk of get 1 if it is less den rm100. any sell tat? PM me ok? haha
me= state basketball player. retired from former game for abroad studies. WISE CHOICE. kawan2 main bola after i went abroad now working as sale assistant in boutique. LOL
Badminton player got a lot of incentives, y? bcos abang najip suka tengok badminton kok. football players earn low income, n thy only can play til 32-34 y-o. how bad would b if thy r poor? tat is y many malaysian football talents choose not to continue football career, thy choose to make some money for better life. tau? kalo gaji merka macam gaji u18 EPL players, saya pun mau main bola, kan? harap2 la next Prime Minister likes to watch football. ok?
btw, jersey msia NICE!! macam tiger yo. heard tat there is a sentence inside da shirt, "Tanah tumpahnya darahku". wow... thk of get 1 if it is less den rm100. any sell tat? PM me ok? haha
you see.. thats the root of our problem. Even if we have a proper development, its no use if the talent base is leaking.. its dilemma of being in a second world country.. manpower are more usefull in service and industrial sector...
in first world country, money is overflowing and you can live no matter what you do..
in third world country, with no education, people just live on natural talent and physical ability, so they will hang on to their dream to be a sportsman like their life depend on it.. there are no alternative..
unfortunately for our sports developement, people in malaysia have too many alternatives for our own good..
first of all, FAM..no.. EVERYBODY ... must launch a campaign.. tell people that its OK to be a sportsman..
government must create a secondary industry which favours former athlete after they retired/injured..
1. Make a sports representation history as a plus point when applying for public service in state or federal level. Plus, seniority level advantage base on level of sports representation. This will also ensure that sportsman can receive pension. - these athletes are able bodied- at the very least, they will be useful in police or army..
2. Make a special teaching program to turn ex-athletes into PE teachers...
3. Special allocation to schools to employ professional football (or other sport) coach for their school teams on contract basis..
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Nov 19 2010, 05:29 PM)
you see.. thats the root of our problem. Even if we have a proper development, its no use if the talent base is leaking.. its dilemma of being in a second world country.. manpower are more usefull in service and industrial sector...
in first world country, money is overflowing and you can live no matter what you do..
in third world country, with no education, people just live on natural talent and physical ability, so they will hang on to their dream to be a sportsman like their life depend on it.. there are no alternative..
unfortunately for our sports developement, people in malaysia have too many alternatives for our own good..
first of all, FAM..no.. EVERYBODY ... must launch a campaign.. tell people that its OK to be a sportsman..
government must create a secondary industry which favours former athlete after they retired/injured..
1. Make a sports representation history as a plus point when applying for public service in state or federal level. Plus, seniority level advantage base on level of sports representation. This will also ensure that sportsman can receive pension. - these athletes are able bodied- at the very least, they will be useful in police or army..
2. Make a special teaching program to turn ex-athletes into PE teachers...
3. Special allocation to schools to employ professional football (or other sport) coach for their school teams on contract basis..
Football is always the poor man's game, even in countries like the UK. Thus why footballers there are always almost associated with lower income group.
i shouldn't have said 'your problem'. what i meant was if you can't feel proud for the (depleted) national team that giving their all, then that's your thing. do not go and tell other people they should have not feel proud also
the main problem with majority of the fans (those that i know and see) is that when come to criticizing our national team, they tend to
1. have problem in accepting where our national team are now; ability-wise, ranking-wise comparatively to other big Asian football nations 2. which lead to unrealistic expectation 3. which in turn lead to not acknowledging any kind of improvement that we've made
so as long as we do not accept that we are no longer (long time already la) 1 of the Asian football powerhouse, we will always see the kind of criticism that you were throwing to the national team performances. heck, we are not even the top team in SEA region anymore
Well, if we dint spend a lot of time and money compare to other poor country which have better performance then i always feel pround of them, lose or win is doesn't matter if dun have a good target.
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Nov 19 2010, 04:10 PM)
again.. U21 and U23 are no much different... half of our team are U21 and semi professional also...
and regarding China.. they are still favourite against us.. but seing their result against Kyrgyzstan, Japan and South Korea, there are definitely beatable by us... please don't use the 3-0 as a yardstick.. that was a false match...
if you must, please use our friendly vs China senior in 2009... we used this very team minus the red cards and injuries...
Hmmm... for the U23 China team, we sure got chance to beat them, but for the China Senior, if i m not wrong that time b4 they play with our U23 team, they also have friendly match with Singapore, result is 1-1, but China win 5-4 at penalty kick, after 2 days they visit Malaysia n play with our U23, result 0-0, but they got their reason, they said they are too tired, the weather also very hot that time is hard for them to adapt with the hot condition, n most of the time our U23 only play defensive game... another thing is China only bring other new player which he just choose from China league not long ago, some first team player dint follow and also dint call up for player which are playing abroad. Remember b4 WC2010, China visit France, they surprising the world with beating France 1-0, maybe our U23 can give a try, but make sure our U23's keeper is in top form, ok..thats all, i m just tell the truth since u always mention our U23 0-0 China senior, i doesn't mean to make another hurt feeling....
This post has been edited by nakata101: Nov 19 2010, 07:25 PM
Well, if we dint spend a lot of time and money compare to other poor country which have better performance then i always feel pround of them, lose or win is doesn't matter if dun have a good target.
considering the countries that you lot are comparing us to, spend 20-30 times more than us every year, we actually spent not that much.
A 'good' constructive target is something reachable in front of our eye that propel us forward. Setting a irrationally impossible target will only bring negative and destructive effect.
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Hmmm... for the U23 China team, we sure got chance to beat them, but for the China Senior, if i m not wrong that time b4 they play with our U23 team, they also have friendly match with Singapore, result is 1-1, but China win 5-4 at penalty kick, after 2 days they visit Malaysia n play with our U23, result 0-0, but they got their reason, they said they are too tired, the weather also very hot that time is hard for them to adapt with the hot condition, n most of the time our U23 only play defensive game... another thing is China only bring other new player which he just choose from China league not long ago, some first team player dint follow and also dint call up for player which are playing abroad. Remember b4 WC2010, China visit France, they surprising the world with beating France 1-0, maybe our U23 can give a try, but make sure our U23's keeper is in top form, ok..thats all, i m just tell the truth since u always mention our U23 0-0 China senior, i doesn't mean to make another hurt feeling....
you stressed highly that our boy's performance vs Japan does not deserve any credit because they consciously use U21 inspite of U23 ruling (while half of our players are U21 ourself) but conveniently left out any credit to our U23 team for holding a full China senior team who resoundingly beatean us 5-0 at home in the Asia Cup..
you excused China's nonperformance due to hot weather but not having it when we loss 3-0 away while playing with 3 man less. And did we hear our boys complain about China's weather?
China was placed 44 ranks above us at that time. Of course we would played a defensive game. You would not expect us to rolled down and die like we did in 2007 Asia Cup now would you. Han Peng, one of China's main striker played both match. But he can only draw blanks in 2009 compare to a brace he scored in 2007 despite playing in the same hot weather. The onus are for them to show their supremacy and they failed.
Your previous arguements show no non-sense aproach to reason why we cannot show our true ability at the Asian Games, but here you are, writing 7 lined paragraph to excuse the Chinese. either you intention is simply to troll, or you must admit that you are a tad bias.
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 19 2010, 11:59 PM
just noticed encik bryan robson manage siam bola team
"We know that everybody likes to win a competition if you are in, but there again sometimes teams do plan ahead and they are thinking of developing players for the future. I think Malaysia are a little bit like that"
Harimau Muda A friendlies in Slovakia (5 Sept-17 Nov 2010)
Sep 05: lost 1-3 vs MFK Ruzemberok B Sep 07: drew 2-2 vs FC Petrzalka 1898 Sep 14: lost 1-2 vs Slovan Duslo Sala Sep 20: drew 1-1 vs Bodva Moldava Sep 28: drew 1-1 vs MFK Tatran Liptovsky Mikulas Oct 06: lost 0-2 vs Zemplin Michalovce Oct 09: lost 0-1 vs Dolny Kubin Oct 12: lost 1-3 vs SFM Senec Oct 19: won 3-1 vs LAFC Lucenec Oct 26: won 2-0 vs FK Puchov Nov 03: won 1-0 vs Rimavska Sobota Nov 09: lost 1-2 vs AS Trencin
Nov 14: lost 3-4 vs SKN St Polten (AUT) Nov 17: won 3-1 vs Torna Ferencavaros (HUN)
I support Harimau muda! Follow the good example of Slovakia. In 1993 their FIFA ranking was 150(just like our team now), but this year, they have jumped to rank 16 best in the world on Sept 2010!! Learn, follow and train very hard like them. If they can, why we cant?
Well... good luck our football team in AFF Suzuki cup....
our prayers are with them...
we, the 'blind supporters', will continue to give unconditional support to our national team no matter what happen..
Added on November 20, 2010, 9:21 pm
QUOTE(izdyharz @ Nov 20 2010, 07:59 PM)
I support Harimau muda! Follow the good example of Slovakia. In 1993 their FIFA ranking was 150(just like our team now), but this year, they have jumped to rank 16 best in the world on Sept 2010!! Learn, follow and train very hard like them. If they can, why we cant?
Despite normal anticipated criticism raining on FAM regarding pretty much everything they do, i support their effort on Harimau Muda Slovakia project...
but i have to say, i am quite dissapointed with Harimau Muda players choosen to play in the Asian Games... the U23s are crippled with injuries, and chance are open for the U21 to show their worth... until the end, no one of them did anything in significance to show initiative..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 20 2010, 09:21 PM
I kinda like the new M'sia jersey. That is if you don't mind stripes. Makes you look slimmer. Saw it when I was checking out nike stuff: http://www.facebook.com/nikefootballmy
kinda frustrated that we cannot show our ability in the AFF Cup...
at current stage, this is the pinnacle of competitive tournament for me.. not the Sea Games.. not the Asian Games... not even the Asia Cup and World Cup qualifiers...
this is a true contest among our peers that we must beat to move forward... terkilan sebab kita takle tunjuk our full pontential..
anycase... K. Rajagopal has never failed me so far and he earned that benefit of a doubt... i will still support hom no matter what happens..
i dont fet it .. why must we send 'U23' players ... ?? those who played in msia league not good enuff ?? i miss indra putra and hairuddin omar on msian 1st eleven .. amri yahyah too ..
i dont fet it .. why must we send 'U23' players ... ?? those who played in msia league not good enuff ?? i miss indra putra and hairuddin omar on msian 1st eleven .. amri yahyah too ..
my take on it is.. we do not have a large pool of national team material players... maybe less than 20 people i think...
so when the Asian Games and the AFF Cup are too close apart (barely 2 weeks), to prepare for 2 teams would be too hectic... so RG trust his instinct and go with the same team for both tournaments plus several trust and tested seniors... so that the preparation will be one flow instead of zig zag between the u23 and senior team..
that strategy would not have been too bad if not for unprecedented spat of injuries that hit them..
i have actually predicted earlier that participation in the Asian Games would be detrimental to us.. the 'hard' but true thing to do is either to send a U21 team like most team do or not send any team at all like indonesia did...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 25 2010, 01:46 PM
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goddamn you rajagobal my always chosing those noob youth player when we a few good quality senior player. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_AFF_Suzuki_Cup_squads malaysia only brings few senior players. and those young player wasnt good either according to their stupid performance in asian games.
goddamn you rajagobal my always chosing those noob youth player when we a few good quality senior player. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_AFF_Suzuki_Cup_squads malaysia only brings few senior players. and those young player wasnt good either according to their stupid performance in asian games.
so, u don't want to support? what the hell are you waiting for?
actually i agree with him. On paper, we have no right to go through to the semis... the indons and the thais will eat us for breakfast, lunch and dinner...
uuhhhhh.... i shudder to think how i might feel when this team yet again break expectations and proves everybody wrong....
they are that sort of team that plays better when the chips are down..... and the tide are against them...
Forget the senior players and have a longer term vision. It isn't about magically transforming them into world beaters. It's about exposing the younger lads to more games so that they may develop. What's the point in fielding the seniors? They aren't going to get any better as players.
Forget the senior players and have a longer term vision. It isn't about magically transforming them into world beaters. It's about exposing the younger lads to more games so that they may develop. What's the point in fielding the seniors? They aren't going to get any better as players.
+1 some people called themselves as die hard fan but still don't know about this
Forget the senior players and have a longer term vision. It isn't about magically transforming them into world beaters. It's about exposing the younger lads to more games so that they may develop. What's the point in fielding the seniors? They aren't going to get any better as players.
agreed. even among malaysian football fans there are a lot of people who are easy to forget..
how after 2007 debacle, the words "youth development" keep be hurled around..
now in 2010, they want to revert back to the 'senior' route after some of them showed excellent performance in a importless- league..
so easy to get swayed away from the cause..
RG has create some sort of working radio here.. what we need is further tuning... not to dismantle and replace everything with yet another set of previously broken hi-fi..
if it still not broken, dont fix it...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 26 2010, 04:43 PM
Full time: 2-2. Should be this score lar I think cause I came 10 mins late.
Since I'm not familiar with Selangor players apart from Amri Yahyah, I have no idea which of them scored.
As for Malaysia, Safee Sali scored the 1st? I was playing with my mobile that time. 2nd one was by one of the Indian boys. Not sure which is which. Guru I guess?
Anyway, some say it's Muslim & Kunalan.
It's pouring during the last 10 minutes.
This post has been edited by plokoon: Nov 26 2010, 11:23 PM
Full time: 2-2. Should be this score lar I think cause I came 10 mins late.
Since I'm not familiar with Selangor players apart from Amri Yahyah, I have no idea which of them scored.
As for Malaysia, Safee Sali scored the 1st? I was playing with my mobile that time. 2nd one was by one of the Indian boys. Not sure which is which. Guru I guess?
Anyway, some say it's Muslim & Kunalan.
It's pouring during the last 10 minutes.
hehehe.. Malaysian boys were schooled by slenagor in the first half.. everyone was static and nothing works...
i dont think muslim played tonite... i spotted azmi muslim, ahmad muslim, nor shahrul and someone else in their polo shirts out side the stadium just before kickoff...
i thing faizal abu bakar and guru (no 11) scored.. kunalan no 16...
Full time: 2-2. Should be this score lar I think cause I came 10 mins late.
Since I'm not familiar with Selangor players apart from Amri Yahyah, I have no idea which of them scored.
As for Malaysia, Safee Sali scored the 1st? I was playing with my mobile that time. 2nd one was by one of the Indian boys. Not sure which is which. Guru I guess?
Anyway, some say it's Muslim & Kunalan.
It's pouring during the last 10 minutes.
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Nov 26 2010, 11:31 PM)
hehehe.. Malaysian boys were schooled by slenagor in the first half.. everyone was static and nothing works...
i dont think muslim played tonite... i spotted azmi muslim, ahmad muslim, nor shahrul and someone else in their polo shirts out side the stadium just before kickoff...
i thing faizal abu bakar and guru (no 11) scored.. kunalan no 16...
at the current injury rate.. we are lucky if we can field any centre back at all....
there are rumours that ahmad muslim is also injured right now... add to azmi, sabree, aidil, nasriq and norhafiz zamani, 6 of our first back four is wiped out...
man .... to say that RG is now is an understatement...
Added on November 27, 2010, 11:22 pmconfirmed : "kecederaan ringan"..
Muslim Ahmad Nor Shahrul Izzat Farris
sos : Nadi Arena
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 27 2010, 11:22 PM
im not recommended that rajagobal brings all senior player and forget all young player. what i mean is combine those few great senior player who has played in international level with bunch of young player. i've seen those young player played in asian games. they werent so great either.
im not recommended that rajagobal brings all senior player and forget all young player. what i mean is combine those few great senior player who has played in international level with bunch of young player. i've seen those young player played in asian games. they werent so great either.
yap... by comparison, the slovakian Harimau MUda is not really good. No wonder they mostly get pawned over there at Slovakia..
But the seniors have their issues also... Even if they performed well with their state coach in the league, doesnt mean they will go that extra mile when play with another coach in the national team..
well... this type of tournament usually need year long preparation for mental and physical...
to be pulled out of your early pre-season preparation with a 3 days notice to go fight in a regional level international tournament where you will get bashed without due consideration of any predicament you faced in the likely event you lose or even if you win ..... is not really desirable situation...
the first thing that cross Indra's mind propably is to claim "unfit".
seeing our young defenders have to bear the responsibility of marking a 35-goal-a-season Uruguayan and an Ajax Amsterdam Youth product Dutch striker really make me feel like waiting to be sen to the gallows the whole day today...
5 and a half hours before kickoff and i cant hardly breath properly.
Lets be honest though, Amri wasn't in his favourite position (Attacking Midfielder), he didn't performed excellently, but Malaysia lost shape when he left. BTW, why was Safiq the captain?
Lets be honest though, Amri wasn't in his favourite position (Attacking Midfielder), he didn't performed excellently, but Malaysia lost shape when he left. BTW, why was Safiq the captain?
He was a captain at Asian Cup. Quite awkward since Amri is Safiq captain at Selangor
Should only play with 1 winger which is Kunalan. Amirulhadi no function at the right wing. Then Amri can play his attacking midfielder role and Gurusamy can play as anchor to mark that Indon import player
He was a captain at Asian Cup. Quite awkward since Amri is Safiq captain at Selangor
Should only play with 1 winger which is Kunalan. Amirulhadi no function at the right wing. Then Amri can play his attacking midfielder role and Gurusamy can play as anchor to mark that Indon import player
my thought also...
our preseveerence in previous tough encounters are due to diciplined core of Safiq-Amar/Guru combined with centreback of Aidil-Nasriq.....
this line up left Safiq all alone chasing shadows...
the only positive that came out from this game is we know we are better than this... but the Thais and the Laos propably did not know that... so we can pull a suprise...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 1 2010, 11:09 PM
very weird man.what the hell RG thinking.both safiq and amri are attack-minded.that's why we loss possession very often.we don't have a holding player who can hold the ball.
can't blame the defense as they were the best that RG have in his hands.
can't blame the defense as they were the best that RG have in his hands.
agreed with that also... but the gap between the best we have dan the best we need to be is really wide... the youngster show nothing to make us optimistic about the future..
that was simply terrible. as if they were all afraid of having the ball and return to the 'asalkan bola tak ada kat kaki aku' habit
and Safiq does not looks like a captain at all to me. all the matches i watched recently; 3 at Asian Games + 1 at Suzuki Cup he does not looks inspiring at all. do we really not have any other better candidates for the captaincy?
I blamed Rajagopal for 5-1 lose to Indonesia last nite.
He bring unfit players for the tournament. Amri Yahya, Razman Roslan and put them as first eleven.
He put Sharbinee Alawee as a keeper. He just came out from injury and lack of match fitness. We have on form keeper rite now, Khairul Fahmi, why need to change ?
Amri as centre midfield? We always use Amar Rohidan as defensive midfield while Safiq Rahim as attacking midfield. But today, Amri out of position as midfield centre while Safiq more to defensive.
Experimental back four today Rajagopal put 2 youngster as defenses centre. Using reserve player in his club as full back ( Asraruddin Putra) who play badly in Asia Games.
No excuses Raja, u make very bad mistake with this setup.
We still have Gurusamy(key players during won Sea Games Gold Medal, Ashaari Samsuddin, top goalscorer in Super League this season,
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true. we are not at our best with the makeshift defense. But indonesia really pounce on it... we have no answer to Okto on the right.. man of the match to me..
Razman the right back and Amri were pluck out from pre season training for this match and clearly not match fit for international level...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 2 2010, 08:50 AM
it seems we have now gone down 2 even bigger low in our football history...now i think nothing can b salvage anymore 4 the last 2 games...so all i can hope is the boys must wake the fucuk up n go 200% for the last 2 match although the chance of 6 points is almost 0
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This post has been edited by skylinelover: Dec 2 2010, 10:34 AM
last night's match we played well la. the match was very exciting. both teams attack from the start. both teams defended awfully but the indonesian attackers pounced better. the scoreline didn't represent how Malaysia played.
Yeah, welcome to our fellow friends from Indonesia - (manyunboy, malonia, malayscum, Sir Pemo aka sirpemo n Shantika)
If you feel like celebrating here, please do so. We are happy to welcome you and help you feel good about yourselves. After all, we are neighbours rite? n that's what neighbours do for each other
Btw, back to the game. I only watched the highlights. Did we have other goal scoring chances besides the only goal?
Nampak cahaya, tapi cahaya datang dari cermin yang reflect dari dulu..... ubah x ubah ni lepas 2 tahun kita akan tahu....
kena up kan dulu local scene baru la pikir international. harap pelapis baru lebih mantap dan disiplin. dapat setaraf dgn thailand dulu pun ramai akan happy.
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setuju gan..
i also indonesian. dont wanna flame on other forum. also i sure that indo-malay still satu rumpun..we're learn each other
this time indonesia was better. but in soccer game we cant always predict well ..
salam to all forumer here..
This post has been edited by lezciel: Dec 2 2010, 12:31 PM
well, I dont think Malaysia played badly, they still could attack dangerously, and for Indonesian fans, dont get too excited easily as the scoreline doesnt mean everything or ends the championship either, we still have matches to go.. I am indonesian as well, and used to play futsal with LYN fellows, so seeing ur useless replies, I feel annoyed somehow.
I really hope Malaysia can improve in the next matches, so does Indonesia, congrats for My country and keep the spirit up for Malaysia. cheers
This post has been edited by anggajaya: Dec 2 2010, 01:23 PM
yesterday match was terrible, poor performance by our malaysian team. Hopefully, our football team will show some improvement when they meet Thailand this saturday. Just wait n see.......
yesterday match was terrible, poor performance by our malaysian team. Hopefully, our football team will show some improvement when they meet Thailand this saturday. Just wait n see.......
definitely thailand is not in their performance also.
they draw with laos 2-2
This post has been edited by lezciel: Dec 2 2010, 03:00 PM
well, I dont think Malaysia played badly, they still could attack dangerously, and for Indonesian fans, dont get too excited easily as the scoreline doesnt mean everything or ends the championship either, we still have matches to go.. I am indonesian as well, and used to play futsal with LYN fellows, so seeing ur useless replies, I feel annoyed somehow.
I really hope Malaysia can improve in the next matches, so does Indonesia, congrats for My country and keep the spirit up for Malaysia. cheers
i agree...
their chance still open..
if they can beat thailand which ended with draw result against laos.
thailand also not in their performance.
This post has been edited by lezciel: Dec 2 2010, 03:04 PM
if we win against thai and draw against laos, i don't think it will be enough for us to advance to semi-final since goal margin is not on our side (unless we can trash thai 5-0 ). so, we must win both the match
This post has been edited by AKace: Dec 2 2010, 04:05 PM
it was actually a pleasant surprise watching malaysia play. lots of pass and move, and patient build-up in their attacks. sadly, a couple of individual mistakes made the game safe for indonesia. ironically, the calm and measured approach by players is what cost them, when they tried to be too clever around their penalty box. still lots of room for improvement, and if we cut out the mistakes we'd be a very decent team.
if we win against thai and draw against laos, i don't think it will be enough for us to advance to semi-final since goal margin is not on our side (unless we can trash thai 5-0 ). so, we must win both the match
actually we still can qualify by beating and drawing with any of the thais and Laos.. provided Indo helps us by beating both of them as well...
so my target is a draw with Thai and a win over Laos with Indo beating thai on final day..
actually we still can qualify by beating and drawing with any of the thais and Laos.. provided Indo helps us by beating both of them as well...
so my target is a draw with Thai and a win over Laos with Indo beating thai on final day..
i think as a home team indon wouldnt miss their match. other side they want to be a winner of group to avoid the winner on other group in SN.
theres a chance for Malay team when they facing thai n laos..
i think thailand not bring their best team recent year..since they're focusing their best team only for the huge event, like asian cup, WC qualification, etc.. definitely they did a good program to improve their junior skill..
This post has been edited by lezciel: Dec 2 2010, 06:12 PM
i think thailand not bring their best team recent year..since they're focusing their best team only for the huge event, like asian cup, WC qualification, etc.. definitely they did a good program to improve their junior skill..
i don't think so. they are really craving for asean title which they failed to win in the last 3 editions.
This post has been edited by AKace: Dec 2 2010, 06:30 PM
Mostly of the squad player from thailand just finish their Thailand cup final at Sunday which just 3 days b4 the AFF Suzuki Cup, they finish at 120 minute, so i think they are too tire to show their top form...
Just out of curiosity - which would you prefer - a great, spirited and confident performance from the team but losing or drawing unluckily, or another drab performance but scoring a lucky 1-0 win in injury time? :-)
Just out of curiosity - which would you prefer - a great, spirited and confident performance from the team but losing or drawing unluckily, or another drab performance but scoring a lucky 1-0 win in injury time? :-)
Just out of curiosity - which would you prefer - a great, spirited and confident performance from the team but losing or drawing unluckily, or another drab performance but scoring a lucky 1-0 win in injury time? :-)
i'd take an 1-0 win even if our GK made 19 lucky savees with his face dan need 3 deflection for us to score the goal..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 4 2010, 06:59 PM
still optimistic for d second half.our defense look better.but d left side too exposed.kuna should drop down as well to help asra.
right now Khairul Fahmi still managed to answer all those questions... but my heart stopped a beat each time questions were posed to both Harimau Muda centerbacks ...
but the left side is really exposed... is Sabree Abu's injury still that bad.. we need him to replace Asrar..
Malaysia needs help from Indogs if they want to qualify. indongs at least need to draw with thai to make malaysia qualify for second round. im sure malaysia will win big against laos.
All hope is not lost, but we need to depend on Indonesia not letting Thailand win when they meet each other, and we beat Laos. Can't see Indonesia losing to Laos, so goal difference shouldnt be too much of a problem. We can still qualify as runners up with 4 points, providing Indonesia don't lose any of their next 2 matches.
This post has been edited by pyroboy1911: Dec 4 2010, 07:58 PM
if that penalti un-call by the ref is fate's way of repaying that 3 red cards in China, i accept it with open arms...
we are still breathing....
Added on December 4, 2010, 8:02 pm
QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Dec 4 2010, 07:56 PM)
All hope is not lost, but we need to depend on Indonesia not letting Thailand win when they meet each other, and we beat Laos. Can't see Indonesia losing to Laos, so goal difference shouldnt be too much of a problem. We can still qualify as runners up with 4 points, providing Indonesia don't lose any of their next 2 matches.
that sums it... we just need Indonesia to not lose for the next 2 matches.. judging by Thailands performance today, i dont think that is too hard..
we are lucky we will not be in position to use goal difference.. just wajib finish off our next job with Laos..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 4 2010, 08:07 PM
fahmi is d motm for me.very confident with d ball.ill give credit to muslim as well.good defending by him.
Now hope for win against laos and indon beat thai.but im afraid if indon booked their place early,they'll rest sum of their players and got beaten instead.
fahmi is d motm for me.very confident with d ball.ill give credit to muslim as well.good defending by him.
Now hope for win against laos and indon beat thai.but im afraid if indon booked their place early,they'll rest sum of their players and got beaten instead.
they will get the wrath of Gelora Bung Karno if they do that... In ASEAN, there are no match vs Thailand that can be taken lightly whateva the condition is..
Though all the bombardment, Fahmi does seem composed and do his job without hassle. If he was gelabah like a few others, i bet one of those low drill ball that he collect will let loose and deflect into opponent's path, or did a Green. Good job Fahmi!
If we have Aidil at the back to partner Muslim, Badrol at the central midfield with Safiq and Zaquan & Norshahrul partnership up front, reaching 2nd round is nothing to us
If we have Aidil at the back to partner Muslim, Badrol at the central midfield with Safiq and Zaquan & Norshahrul partnership up front, reaching 2nd round is nothing to us
our backline seem fragile..they seemed nervous..wh RG not bring any experienced CB...and why not pick indra and nor farhan..?
i really hope so bro.. but I am pretty sure Malaysia can be the runner up, seeing how Laos played, very poor in defending..
Tapi serangan Laos sangat berbahaya jg bro..
Kalau saya jd pelatih malaysia, maka beberapa penyerang laos akan jd perhatian penting. Tendangan2 jarak jauh mereka sangat akurat dan keras, passing mereka jg sangat baik tp yg perlu di catat adalah tiap kali mereka mengontrol bola dan mendapat pressing lawan kontrol bola mereka terlihat sedikit kacau dan menyebabkan kesalahan. Jika malaysia ingin mendapatkan point 3 dr Laos, pressing pemain mereka akan sangat menguntungkan dan manfaatkan sedikit pun kesempatan atau mereka yg akan memanfaatkannya..
Good Luck..
This post has been edited by Shantika: Dec 4 2010, 11:14 PM
Kalau saya jd pelatih malaysia, maka beberapa penyerang laos akan jd perhatian penting. Tendangan2 jarak jauh mereka sangat akurat dan keras, passing mereka jg sangat baik tp yg perlu di catat adalah tiap kali mereka mengontrol bola dan mendapat pressing lawan kontrol bola mereka terlihat sedikit kacau dan menyebabkan kesalahan. Jika malaysia ingin mendapatkan point 3 dr Laos, pressing pemain mereka akan sangat menguntungkan dan manfaatkan sedikit pun kesempatan atau mereka yg akan memanfaatkannya..
Good Luck..
apa bro cakap tu sangat accurate... skill player laos tidak boleh dipandang enteng..
tapi rasanya Malaysia ada moral advantage... Laos mesti physically dan mentally exausted selepas 2 match vs Thailand dan indonesia.
malaysia pon sama.. tapi selepas seri 0-0 moral lebih on the way up.. walhal Laos has to pick themselve after a 6-0 drubbing..
Pertandingan besok saya pegang Malaysia 2 - 0 atau 2 - 1
Tp dengan syarat bermain dengan hati2 terutama pada pemain belakang
Dan untuk match indo - thai, keputusan ada di tangan pelatih indo. Saya pikir, pelatih lebih memperdulikan match setelah indo - thai dari pada tekanan penonton di glora bung karno. Jadi, menurut saya pelatih akan memasang pemain kedua dalam match vs thai..
i saw laos striker tak teralu bagus. but they're dangerous in far shooting.striker malaysia safee still better i think.
the coordination in lapangan tengah is slow playing.
saya yakin malaysia still bisa tuk menang versus Laos.
lets just say, the script on tuesday is a Malaysia and an Indonesian win.. let there be no suprise now..
Added on December 5, 2010, 12:06 am
QUOTE(Shantika @ Dec 5 2010, 12:02 AM)
Pertandingan besok saya pegang Malaysia 2 - 0 atau 2 - 1
Tp dengan syarat bermain dengan hati2 terutama pada pemain belakang
Dan untuk match indo - thai, keputusan ada di tangan pelatih indo. Saya pikir, pelatih lebih memperdulikan match setelah indo - thai dari pada tekanan penonton di glora bung karno. Jadi, menurut saya pelatih akan memasang pemain kedua dalam match vs thai..
Ape firasat bro pasal pemain kedua Indo?
kalau setakat Gonzalez tukar dengan Bambang saya rasa still ok..
ketiga2 sub yang masuk kedua2 match ni pon ok...
harap Irfan dan Okto stay main..
Added on December 5, 2010, 12:18 am
QUOTE(Ken @ Dec 4 2010, 11:47 PM)
Laos? Remind me of 1997 sea game ...
Added on December 4, 2010, 11:48 pm So this a vast improvement?
the ability still the same.. but we improved in term of tactical, compact and resilience..
if anything its the thais that become worse..
Laos on the other hand has improved a lot...never seen a football third world country improved soo much..another country beside that is India's peformance in the Asian Games..
Added on December 5, 2010, 12:22 am
QUOTE(lezciel @ Dec 4 2010, 11:29 PM)
indonesia 6 - 0 win laos.
congrats to my country..^^
Hoping Malay can steal the 2nd position in last day qualification.
congrrats.... hope you guys continue to spuurr your team on until the final day..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 5 2010, 12:22 AM
lets just say, the script on tuesday is a Malaysia and an Indonesian win.. let there be no suprise now..
Added on December 5, 2010, 12:06 am
Ape firasat bro pasal pemain kedua Indo?
kalau setakat Gonzalez tukar dengan Bambang saya rasa still ok..
ketiga2 sub yang masuk kedua2 match ni pon ok...
harap Irfan dan Okto stay main..
Added on December 5, 2010, 12:18 am
the ability still the same.. but we improved in term of tactical, compact and resilience..
if anything its the thais that become worse..
Laos on the other hand has improved a lot...never seen a football third world country improved soo much..another country beside that is India's peformance in the Asian Games..
Added on December 5, 2010, 12:22 am
congrrats.... hope you guys continue to spuurr your team on until the final day..
Ini bro saya baru dapat beritanya..
QUOTE
Lawan Thailand, Riedl Akan Rotasi Pemain
Kemenangan besar setengah lusin gol atas Laos, Sabtu (4/12) disambut gembira seluruh skuad Indonesia. Begitu juga yang dirasakan pelatih Tim Merah Putih, Alfred Riedl.
Namun, Riedl mengaku sempat cemas saat Indonesia agak kesulitan di awal-awal laga. "Terasa sulit saat skor pertandingan masih 0-0 dalam waktu yang cukup lama. Kami tidak banyak mendapatkan peluang," sebut Reidl.
Pada akhirnya, gol penalti Firman Utina dan sontekkan M. Ridwan yang sempat membentur bek Laos berhasil menghilangkan rasa cemas yang sempat melanda Reidl.
"Setelah tercipta 2-3 gol, kami baru menemukan bentuk permainan yang baik. Beruntung, dewi fortuna banyak memihak kami," lanjut pelatih asal Austria tersebut. "Saya simpati kepada Laos. Karena, saya pernah melatih dan memiliki banyak kawan disana."
Kemenangan tersebut memastikan Indonesia memuncaki Grup A Piala AFF 2010. Meski begitu, Reidl tetap menjanjikan akan bermain seperti biasa kala berhadapan dengan Thailand, Selasa (7/12).
"Mungkin hanya sedikit perubahan pemain yang akan saya lakukan. Kami punya tanggung jawab kepada para pendukung dan tetap ingin menghibur mereka," janji
Bambang Pamungkas & Gonzales punya gaya permainan yg sama, so firasat saya mereka tak di mainkan bersamaan. Tebakan saya bahcdim akan di mainkan berduet dengan BP. Bachdim masih muda dan butuh banyak pengalaman internasional, so itu mungkin alasan pelatih untuk memainkan bachdim di next match..
Okto saya tak tau bro,, tp dia jd idola baru di indo.. Keren bgt permainannya..
Saya pikir malaysia punya peluang besar untuk menang lawan laos. Salah satu faktor nya ialah mental laos yg baru kalah dan mereka butuh kemenangan besar esok kalau ingin lolos (saya rasa mengusahakan menang besar esok lawan malaysia pun butuh mental juara dan saya ragu laos punya mental tu.. )
sometimes, i lurk in kaskus but i need to read their posts 2-3 times for me to understand
yes bro..kaskus language using slang language..that non formal uses..
this is called with "betawi" language.or usual uses in jakarta.
if i try to translate it perhaps it would be this:
bambang pamungkas n gonzales hav a similar same style. so he think both of them would not played at same time by coach. so perhaps bachdim will be played as starter with BP..
He think that malaysia still hav a chance to win the game against laos.. bcause of the high mental pressure from laos side to win..and then the laos mentality is not better than MY's
This post has been edited by lezciel: Dec 5 2010, 02:39 AM
he had a very bad first half. second he played quiet well.
i think he did very well in 2nd half. he's got no service at all at 1st half. in 2nd half, he beat his marker few times and produced a some good crosses. but the receivers fecked up.
obviously he's the only player (with GK) im able to give some credits.
Indon will play weakened team against Thai. the pitch will worsened by then. im not really expect Thai not to win, but we can only hope. our boys need to do their job first by beating Laos.
yes bro..kaskus language using slang language..that non formal uses..
this is called with "betawi" language.or usual uses in jakarta.
if i try to translate it perhaps it would be this:
bambang pamungkas n gonzales hav a similar same style. so he think both of them would not played at same time by coach. so perhaps bachdim will be played as starter with BP..
He think that malaysia still hav a chance to win the game against laos.. bcause of the high mental pressure from laos side to win..and then the laos mentality is not better than MY's
hoi. ini ada indon penyusup ya? tunggu lu gw bacok di kaskus.
Perth Soccer Club is a football (soccer) club based in West Perth, Western Australia. It competes in the Football West Premier League.
Football West Premier League is a league in the state of Western Australia, so that's just a state level football. It's different with the A-League club, Perth Glory FC kasi suspense, how can Perth Glory lose to teenagers?
nonetheless, i think the result is good, shows that the young lads are able to fight with more athletic players, even if those Perth players' skill might not be there.
this edition of suzuki cup really have no respect whatsoever to the word 'script'.
Vietnam... hot favourite.. fresh from a 7-1 win just the other day, is now facing a real treat of early elimination..
Philipines.. needing to go through qualifiers to earn a spot as a 'goal differecce' factor in group B.. is now odds on to finish at top of it..
who could have known...Philipines FA must be scrambling to prepare a stadium that can be use for football for the home leg of the semifinal as we speak..
i really2 hope we continue the trend and knock out 'King of Asean football' Thailand on Tuesday.. with the help of "brotherly love' from the indonesia of course...
huhu
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 5 2010, 11:41 PM
It slipped my mind that the semi-final, which will be played over 2 legs is at the respective country's stadium and NOT at the host countries of the tournament. I'm so gonna be at Bkt. Jalil if Malaysia qualifies next Tuesday.
It slipped my mind that the semi-final, which will be played over 2 legs is at the respective country's stadium and NOT at the host countries of the tournament. I'm so gonna be at Bkt. Jalil if Malaysia qualifies next Tuesday.
yeah.. we'd really fancy our chances vs the Philipines IF we do...
but different to Thailand, Singapore, Pilipines and Vietnam... our luck is not totally in our hands..
Indonesia lost semi final and we won the Cup because we meeting other team in the final
That's the scrip just like Sea Games
there are another script that has happens before...
Both Indo and Thailand defending their opponents goals from own goals because the winner will top the group and will meet Vietnam in the semis...
i dont think it will be repeated to that degree as situation now is different .. but u cant stop from wondering what is the level of motivation the indo will have when playing against the thais on tuesday. it is not above their head to do wacky things like losing on purpose..
the have to decide what is better for their interest :-
1) Letting Thailand go through and become a possible opponent in the final. 2) Try their best to oust Thailand from ASEAN football throne and give Malaysia/Laos a chance to go through and with the likes of the Philipines, become candidates to meet them in the final...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 6 2010, 10:04 AM
then i'm going to prepare myself mentally for tomorrow by thinking that Indonesia will not play to their true strength as they do not have the needs to risk their squad with injuries and suspensions, hence Thailand will beat them and end our hope of progressing to the next round in this AFF Cup. i'd like to think it'll hurt less if i'm already have that kind of thinking before it happens
and, it's not like our game against Laos is a straightforward thing also. based on both team performances so far in this competition, tomorrow match looks set to be a very competitive; what's more with all 3 teams still can get the 2nd position if results go their way. but nonetheless, i will be very disappointed if we fail to beat Laos tomorrow
then i'm going to prepare myself mentally for tomorrow by thinking that Indonesia will not play to their true strength as they do not have the needs to risk their squad with injuries and suspensions, hence Thailand will beat them and end our hope of progressing to the next round in this AFF Cup. i'd like to think it'll hurt less if i'm already have that kind of thinking before it happens
and, it's not like our game against Laos is a straightforward thing also. based on both team performances so far in this competition, tomorrow match looks set to be a very competitive; what's more with all 3 teams still can get the 2nd position if results go their way. but nonetheless, i will be very disappointed if we fail to beat Laos tomorrow
thats the correct frame of mind to be. Our team's resonsibility is only to beat Laos tomorrow. Wether we qualify or not defend on fate.
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 6 2010, 08:41 PM
Nowdays all country uses imported player arr? Singapore got, philiphine got, indonesia got. Use local player la. International coach still ok lg. Haisyy..
Nowdays all country uses imported player arr? Singapore got, philiphine got, indonesia got. Use local player la. International coach still ok lg. Haisyy..
So, do u point that if they beat us just bcoz they got import player???
Nowdays all country uses imported player arr? Singapore got, philiphine got, indonesia got. Use local player la. International coach still ok lg. Haisyy..
those imported players you think is very good ?
they don't have the passion like the true bumiputera
So, do u point that if they beat us just bcoz they got import player???
or maybe, he just want to raise a very good issue for discussion i.e. regarding the neutralized player. i even believe it warranted a different topic altogether, such an interesting topic that is.
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 6 2010, 10:57 PM)
i think he just talking generally about player naturalization activity in south east asia...
exactly, this topic really is an interesting topic. i never really give it a thought initially, it's always a big NO NO for me for Malaysia to use neutralized player from outside. however, when Nelson Sam Martin was playing for Kedah for 3 seasons IINM i must admit that it did cross my mind on how much better our national team would be if we have Nelson pulling the strings from the midfield. because, we really do not have any creative midfielder then, nor that we have any now from the looks of things
anyway, like i said the issue with neutralized players probably warranted discussion at different topic
i rather have a team of born and bred Malaysians playing for their country even if that means not winning any trophies (providing they are dedicated la), rather than a squad of foreigners lifting the trophies, but do not reflect the real component of the country at all. Our countries arent made up of people of south america, africa and european descent. Our national team is not also a place to hire foreign "workers" to do the job for us.
or maybe, he just want to raise a very good issue for discussion i.e. regarding the neutralized player. i even believe it warranted a different topic altogether, such an interesting topic that is. exactly, this topic really is an interesting topic. i never really give it a thought initially, it's always a big NO NO for me for Malaysia to use neutralized player from outside. however, when Nelson Sam Martin was playing for Kedah for 3 seasons IINM i must admit that it did cross my mind on how much better our national team would be if we have Nelson pulling the strings from the midfield. because, we really do not have any creative midfielder then, nor that we have any now from the looks of things
anyway, like i said the issue with neutralized players probably warranted discussion at different topic
QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Dec 7 2010, 02:43 PM)
i rather have a team of born and bred Malaysians playing for their country even if that means not winning any trophies (providing they are dedicated la), rather than a squad of foreigners lifting the trophies, but do not reflect the real component of the country at all. Our countries arent made up of people of south america, africa and european descent. Our national team is not also a place to hire foreign "workers" to do the job for us.
haaaa !! i wanna talk like this exactly, but my engrish very bad so i'm simplify it
i rather have a team of born and bred Malaysians playing for their country even if that means not winning any trophies (providing they are dedicated la), rather than a squad of foreigners lifting the trophies, but do not reflect the real component of the country at all. Our countries arent made up of people of south america, africa and european descent. Our national team is not also a place to hire foreign "workers" to do the job for us.
but our people already proudly pleadging allegience to foreign football players, club and countries. To these people, the concept of staying true to the team that have their 'blood' eventhough not winning any thropies, is foreign to them. Our team must start winning first, before they will even consider supporting them. We might as well go ahead and adopt foreign players to fill that lust.
while we still discussing about it, Philipines, Indonesia and Singapore already benifiting on it. I'd say, if we can find a good candidate, just go ahead. Import players who already playing here for more than 5 years and have their child born and bred here is already Malaysian to me.
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 7 2010, 03:41 PM
but our people already proudly pleadging allegience to foreign football club and countries. To these people, the concept of staying true to the team that have their 'blood' eventhough not winning any thropies, is foreign to them. Our team must start winning first, before they will even consider supporting them. We might as well go ahead and adopt foreign players to fill that lust.
You're right we must be one of the very few countries in the world where its own citizens support other countries, and knows more about football half the world away than their very own local teams or even the national team.
but our people already proudly pleadging allegience to foreign football club and countries. To these people, the concept of staying true to the team that have their 'blood' eventhough not winning any thropies, is foreign to them. Our team must start winning first, before they will even consider supporting them. We might as well go ahead and adopt foreign players to fill that lust.
while we still discussing about it, Philipines, Indonesia and Singapore already benifiting on it. I'd say, if we can find a good candidate, just go ahead. Import players who already playing here for more than 5 years and have their child born and bred here is alraedy Malaysian to me.
i am being honest, i was one of those who disregard the national team when i was a kid, saying the team is rubbish without even watching any of the games and at the same time, supports Man Utd. But as time goes on, i start to appreciate what it means to support your own country, and is still learning. True, almost everyone who watches football have foreign team and country that they supported. But i think one of the reason is because Malaysia national team wasnt in those tournaments, so they are finding alternatives. Lets put it this way, if Malaysia were to qualify for World Cup, regardless of how shitty the team is, im pretty sure more people will support Malaysia. It's just like sporting events like Olympic, Commonwealths...While majority of the population doesnt watch events like equestrians, or squash, but if Malaysia is in it, they will support the team, no matter finishing in the first round, or actually winning the gold medal. Heck, even Cardiff City gets quite a fanbase in Malaysia recently because it is owned by Malaysians.
I dont think "to win and getting local support" is the right reason to allow foreign players into our national team. it's like a last resort action to me, where the country and FAM has given up on local products to even need to think of outsiders.
Maybe if u say by bringing in foreigners it will lead to healthy competition to local lads and they will step up their performance, and can benefit from foreign experience, then maybe that is an acceptable reason. But im afraid FAM might overuse this "foreign experience" thing to straight away play for the country instead of getting locals to learn from them. theres definitely a for and against reasoning for this issue innit? very nice to discuss
This post has been edited by pyroboy1911: Dec 7 2010, 03:47 PM
Yeah, welcome to our fellow friends from Indonesia - (manyunboy, malonia, malayscum, Sir Pemo aka sirpemo n Shantika)
If you feel like celebrating here, please do so. We are happy to welcome you and help you feel good about yourselves. After all, we are neighbours rite? n that's what neighbours do for each other
Btw, back to the game. I only watched the highlights. Did we have other goal scoring chances besides the only goal?
this is the most decent comment i've ever read so far. my respect for you sir
Added on December 7, 2010, 5:03 pm
QUOTE(toshio14 @ Dec 6 2010, 07:37 PM)
then i'm going to prepare myself mentally for tomorrow by thinking that Indonesia will not play to their true strength as they do not have the needs to risk their squad with injuries and suspensions, hence Thailand will beat them and end our hope of progressing to the next round in this AFF Cup. i'd like to think it'll hurt less if i'm already have that kind of thinking before it happens
and, it's not like our game against Laos is a straightforward thing also. based on both team performances so far in this competition, tomorrow match looks set to be a very competitive; what's more with all 3 teams still can get the 2nd position if results go their way. but nonetheless, i will be very disappointed if we fail to beat Laos tomorrow
I think Indonesian will play fair and not trying to lose from thailand, because the match will be play at gelora bung karno. no scenario I think !
This post has been edited by jhianchoek: Dec 7 2010, 05:03 PM
if we got more chinese & sabah/sarawak footballers, we don't need foreign players. enuff said
How about we find more chinese malay mix, chinese india mix and malay indian mix, mostly of them will look like foreign people, more handsome and 100% malaysian productive. Ok, i m just kidding...
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Name: Wan Kuzain Wan Kamal Date of Birth: September 14, 1998
Football (soccer) wonder kid. Possesses great skills, passing, and speed. Deadly set piece specialist. Loves the game. Looking to have a future in the sport as well. Plays in the United States. Is feared by all he plays. Well known football (soccer) star in the Midwest of the United States. Has an uncanny likeness to Barcelona Superstar and current World Player of the Year, Lionel Messi.
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if we got more chinese & sabah/sarawak footballers, we don't need foreign players. enuff said
what exactly is your point here? no need to beat around the bushes, just come out and say it. who knows, it may lead to an interesting discussion
Added on December 7, 2010, 5:46 pm
QUOTE(jhianchoek @ Dec 7 2010, 04:58 PM)
I think Indonesian will play fair and not trying to lose from thailand, because the match will be play at gelora bung karno. no scenario I think !
i'm sure that Indonesia will not want to lose to Thailand. my point actually was that since they do not have to risk injuries and suspensions to their main players, the team will not play to their true strength. maybe the reserves will get the chances to play tonight for Indonesia. which is what i'll be doing if my team is in the same situation
This post has been edited by toshio14: Dec 7 2010, 05:46 PM
i am being honest, i was one of those who disregard the national team when i was a kid, saying the team is rubbish without even watching any of the games and at the same time, supports Man Utd. But as time goes on, i start to appreciate what it means to support your own country, and is still learning. True, almost everyone who watches football have foreign team and country that they supported. But i think one of the reason is because Malaysia national team wasnt in those tournaments, so they are finding alternatives. Lets put it this way, if Malaysia were to qualify for World Cup, regardless of how shitty the team is, im pretty sure more people will support Malaysia. It's just like sporting events like Olympic, Commonwealths...While majority of the population doesnt watch events like equestrians, or squash, but if Malaysia is in it, they will support the team, no matter finishing in the first round, or actually winning the gold medal. Heck, even Cardiff City gets quite a fanbase in Malaysia recently because it is owned by Malaysians.
I dont think "to win and getting local support" is the right reason to allow foreign players into our national team. it's like a last resort action to me, where the country and FAM has given up on local products to even need to think of outsiders.
Maybe if u say by bringing in foreigners it will lead to healthy competition to local lads and they will step up their performance, and can benefit from foreign experience, then maybe that is an acceptable reason. But im afraid FAM might overuse this "foreign experience" thing to straight away play for the country instead of getting locals to learn from them. theres definitely a for and against reasoning for this issue innit? very nice to discuss
For me, this action is not a last resort. More like a catalyst.
My problem is, our football is in the doldrums because we are in a frustrating spiral of chicken-and-egg situation where the public says they will only give moral and commercial support when the state of our football improve at an desirable rate while the football admistrators cannot apply proper improvement action at an desirable rate without encouraging moral and commercial support from the public.
this spiral started at the height of match-fixing scandal in the 90's when a whole generation of talented footballers and overflowing moral and commerical support from the public vanished overnight.
With the help of skill import players, our national team will become competetive again and eyes and heart will open up. This feel good factor will translate into moral and commecial support flowing into local football industry. Young kids will idolize local players and will train hard to become one themselves, again...
thats is exagerating a bit, but it is the direction how i want it to go..
if import players taking up playing space for our younglings to grow in the league, they might as well play for our national team.
P/s- i also once started my passion for football through a foreign team. But in time, i started questioning the reason why i keep supporting them unconditionally. i needed more meaning to do it. thats when i decide to go back to my roots and find passion to support the real team that represent me is more..real. The struggle of doing it is tremendous but at the same time addictive. thats why here i am doing as much as i can.
Added on December 7, 2010, 6:07 pm
QUOTE(kaka_89 @ Dec 7 2010, 05:10 PM)
malaysian wonderkid=messi
Name: Wan Kuzain Wan Kamal Date of Birth: September 14, 1998
Football (soccer) wonder kid. Possesses great skills, passing, and speed. Deadly set piece specialist. Loves the game. Looking to have a future in the sport as well. Plays in the United States. Is feared by all he plays. Well known football (soccer) star in the Midwest of the United States. Has an uncanny likeness to Barcelona Superstar and current World Player of the Year, Lionel Messi.
Young football (soccer star) currently honing his skills in the United States playing against top competition from all around. Plays against people 2 years older than him on a consistent basis. Has gained the respect of all people who have seen him play, both on the sidelines and opponents alike. Can hold his own against both teens and adults of all ages. There is sure to be more to come from this football wonderkid in the future!
sad to say, if he is as good as people says he is, he will play for the yanks..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 7 2010, 06:07 PM
comforting news from Mr. Sahadeva, the indonesian fan..
QUOTE
NIE.. AK ADA BWAK BERITA BAGUS SKIT....
SELURUH MEDIA ELEKTRONIK, SURAT KHABAR, SUPPORTER2 FANATIK, PENGKRITIK2 BOLA DAN RAKYAT INDO SUMENYA MENGHARAPKAN TIMNAS INDO MENGALAHKAN THAI MLAM INI... TAK KIRA LAH COACH NAK PAKE SIAPAPON PLAYER NYA.... JANJI MENANG..
ATAU SIAP2 PETINGGI PSSI AKAN KENA KUTUK KAW2... ATAU NAK POLIS BUAT KERJA LEBIH KAT STDIUM MALAM NANTI..... HE..HE.. HE..
SEPERTI YG MEDIA2 INDO BERITAKAN... ''.. KITA MAHU INDO MEMATAHKAN REKOD TAK PERNAH MENANG DNGAN THAI SELAMA 8 TAHUN....'' MELIHAT PERFORM TIMNAS INDO YG MENGGANAS D 2 MATCH SBLUM INI... INILAH MASANYA UNTUK MEMATAHKAN REKOD ITU....!!
he also mention that Gonzalez and Irfan Banchim will play tonight so Indonesia will go all out to break their 8 year old duck vs Thailand...
For me, this action is not a last resort. More like a catalyst.
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My problem is, our football is in the doldrums because we are in a frustrating spiral of chicken-and-egg situation where the public says they will only give moral and commercial support when the state of our football improve at an desirable rate while the football admistrators cannot apply proper improvement action at an desirable rate without encouraging moral and commercial support from the public.
this spiral started at the height of match-fixing scandal in the 90's when a whole generation of talented footballers and overflowing moral and commerical support from the public vanished overnight.
With the help of skill import players, our national team will become competetive again and eyes and heart will open up. This feel good factor will translate into moral and commecial support flowing into local football industry. Young kids will idolize local players and will train hard to become one themselves, again...
thats is exagerating a bit, but it is the direction how i want it to go..
if import players taking up playing space for our younglings to grow in the league, they might as well play for our national team.
P/s- i also once started my passion for football through a foreign team. But in time, i started questioning the reason why i keep supporting them unconditionally. i needed more meaning to do it. thats when i decide to go back to my roots and find passion to support the real team that represent me is more..real. The struggle of doing it is tremendous but at the same time addictive. thats why here i am doing as much as i can.
Added on December 7, 2010, 6:07 pm
sad to say, if he is as good as people says he is, he will play for the yanks..
He should be 12y/o now but cant find his any video around this age in youtube.. weird.
This post has been edited by nakata101: Dec 7 2010, 08:01 PM
if we got more chinese & sabah/sarawak footballers, we don't need foreign players. enuff said
U think they never tried to recruit more chinese into malaysian football? The truth is chinese never good in football. They got no natural talent in football compared to malay or indian. But they do have the biggest mouth
u are right, no urgency at all even though they really need the win. Ironically so far it is against Indonesia the performance is the best among the 3 games. So far. hopefully they can improve soon, or after half time.
nvm, registered with bet365 and can watch, though it is without the stadium ambience sound, only the commentator. not exactly "live" from the stadium i guess
nvm, registered with bet365 and can watch, though it is without the stadium ambience sound, only the commentator. not exactly "live" from the stadium i guess
you're not missing much, there are not many spectators in the stadium. I hope Malaysia win this.
great, we go to the next stage, but seriously i think we will lost in semi, we win tonight but our total performance especially two earliest game show where we stand, for me Thai is better than us and we dont need talk about Indon performance, the scoreline just told everything
Joined: Jan 2005
From: KL. Best place in Malaysia. Nuff said
WOOOHOOO!!! HIDUP BAMBANG!!
On a side note, Thailand is not really performing well o_0
Added on December 7, 2010, 10:27 pm
QUOTE(faris21 @ Dec 7 2010, 10:25 PM)
great, we go to the next stage, but seriously i think we will lost in semi, we win tonight but our total performance especially two earliest game show where we stand, for me Thai is better than us and we dont need talk about Indon performance, the scoreline just told everything
Bak kata Hasbullah, Bola itu Bulat
This post has been edited by linkinstreet: Dec 7 2010, 10:27 PM
Yeah for some reason i dont think we should get into the semi final. We are just lucky. Thats it. We have a lot of players injured, a lot of our top players not in the lineup list for this cup. But I still glad we managed to get thru.
great, we go to the next stage, but seriously i think we will lost in semi, we win tonight but our total performance especially two earliest game show where we stand, for me Thai is better than us and we dont need talk about Indon performance, the scoreline just told everything
yeah..defend and midfield play badly..we always lose ball...donno where to square the ball..we were just lucky to go semis with dis perfomance..philipines play more better than us..
Added on December 7, 2010, 10:34 pm
QUOTE(faris21 @ Dec 7 2010, 10:25 PM)
great, we go to the next stage, but seriously i think we will lost in semi, we win tonight but our total performance especially two earliest game show where we stand, for me Thai is better than us and we dont need talk about Indon performance, the scoreline just told everything
yeah..defend and midfield play badly..we always lose ball...donno where to square the ball..we were just lucky to go semis with dis perfomance..philipines play more better than us..
This post has been edited by fronaldo: Dec 7 2010, 10:34 PM
1) Sabre Abu just get his fitness back after experienced a injury during Malaysia Cup. Furthermore, Asra got fever there. Hope Sabre Abu can start again next game.
3) From what I know, Muhymeen has low fitness but great skill than others. I'm quite shocked when Rajagopal started Khyril as 1st 11. He usually played as super-sub. Khyril substituted with Amirulhadi was more as tactical changes.
Joined: Dec 2010
From: Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
hello... may i join the conversatiton ?? i am newbie here i come from Indonesia. by the way,, congratulation for Malaysia Football team for going through Semifinals
Added on December 7, 2010, 11:49 pm
QUOTE(lezciel @ Dec 7 2010, 11:41 PM)
salam bro.. ada ckup byk fans dr indo disini.. sama2 mendukung..hehe
wahh ternyata ramai juga orang Indonesia ya gan disini ?? salam kenal bang....
This post has been edited by koruptorbangsat: Dec 7 2010, 11:49 PM
its not a knock out stage? I thought whether Thai or indon win Malaysia will also be able to proceed?
group stage..
Before the game, Thailand were leading Malaysia and Laos by 1 point. IF they win, the will definately go through... if they draw, the winner of Laos vs Malaysia will go through.. Indonesia already locked as the group leader with 2 wins from previous game..
it turns out that Thailand lost .. and Malaysia won...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 12:18 AM
then y thanks indon so much? Thai a strong contender that everyone tries to avoid?
indons could have easily play half hearted because they already qualified confirmed top spot... but they go on to beat Thailand to give us the chance to qualify over thailand..
please study the scenarios using the final table if you still dont understand..
indons could have easily play half hearted because they already qualified confirmed top spot... but they go on to beat Thailand to give us the chance to qualify over thailand..
please study the scenarios using the final table if you still dont understand..
urgh...I still dont understand....can anyone send me a link to the table or a graph which can make me understand everything at once?
urgh...I still dont understand....can anyone send me a link to the table or a graph which can make me understand everything at once?
If Thailand beat Indonesia, Malaysia will have no chance to progress because they are above Malaysia by 1 point since this is the last group stage match.
Joined: Dec 2010
From: Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
QUOTE(malayneum @ Dec 8 2010, 12:46 AM)
most indon cannot speak english because they are uneducated. please pity them.
we just try to communicate, but if you do not like us it is Ok... but i know the most important thing, not all of Malaysia people hate Indonesian and not all of Indonesian hate Malaysia people
we just try to communicate, but if you do not like us it is Ok... but i know the most important thing, not all of Malaysia people hate Indonesian and not all of Indonesian hate Malaysia people
i and many other people apppreciate you being here as well..
wherabout from Indonesia do you come from? Hows the environment around your place now with your team's scintilating performance?
EDIT : You already answered where you came from.
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 12:58 AM
rileks bro.. just accept it as normal banters between rival ... or just ignore them completely..
alrite bro
QUOTE(koruptorbangsat @ Dec 7 2010, 11:53 PM)
we just try to communicate, but if you do not like us it is Ok... but i know the most important thing, not all of Malaysia people hate Indonesian and not all of Indonesian hate Malaysia people
tak usa ditanggapi bro,, sy join 2 minggu jg br ptama ktmu org bgni hr ini.
This post has been edited by lezciel: Dec 8 2010, 01:03 AM
If Thailand beat Indonesia, Malaysia will have no chance to progress because they are above Malaysia by 1 point since this is the last group stage match.
QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Dec 8 2010, 12:52 AM)
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Before match Indon 6 Thai 2 Meleis 1 laos 1
win = 3 points, draw = 1 points
After match Indon 9 Meleis 4 Thai 2 Laos 1
oOOOO
Thanks alot guys....Means group stage lar.... I thought someone who said home away style earlier means KO stage....then again someone said like champions league makes me thinking forward to KO stage sumore......
if group stage then I understand lar.... Yea .....really scary as thais beat indonesia , malaysia will lost by 1 point...
Joined: Dec 2010
From: Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
QUOTE(malayneum @ Dec 8 2010, 12:55 AM)
melayu ye? apa2 pun bagus asalkan bukan jawa. jawa = monyet indon
katanya kemaren tim Malaysia kalah sama Indon gara2 terkejut meliat puluhan ribu monyet jawa2 ini di stadium GBK.
astarghfirulloh al adzim saye tak bise berkata ape2 agik lah ... saye tak pandai emosi, itu agama saye ajarkan oh iye, tak ade perbedaan, tak peduli lah die mao batak, jawa, melayu, sunda atau ape jak karene kamek neh tetap satu Indonesia. unity in diversity
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2010, 12:57 AM)
i and many other people apppreciate you being here as well..
wherabout from Indonesia do you come from? Hows the environment around your place now with your team's scintilating performance?
EDIT : You already answered where you came from.
i come from West Kalimantan brother, i ever go to Sarawak, Malaysia for holiday. yeah, we are so surprised about our national team performance, brother o yeah. congratulation for your national team for going through Semifinal.
Thanks alot guys....Means group stage lar.... I thought someone who said home away style earlier means KO stage....then again someone said like champions league makes me thinking forward to KO stage sumore......
if group stage then I understand lar.... Yea .....really scary as thais beat indonesia , malaysia will lost by 1 point...
thanks guys...I can sleep peacefully now.
And the Thais did lead the Indons for a full 13 heart-stopping-head-dropping minutes before Bambang scored the equalising penalty.
Funny how the papers need to change their headline from normal bashing the team to praising for something that happens in another field..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 01:19 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
From: Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
QUOTE(malayneum @ Dec 8 2010, 01:11 AM)
jawa ras rendahan bro. cuma bisa jadi tukang copet, tukang tipu dan supir metro mini. kalau nabrak orang, langsung ngacir kaya pengecut. jijay ah!
malaysia sebenarnya malu kerana punya sodara kaya jawa yg gak ada artinya itu tp merasa dirinya penting ma dunia. hahahaha!
cuba liat kemaren yang score 5-1 buat indonsia tu siapa ? mangnya Gonzales dan Irfan Bachdim tu orang jawa? wewww!! jawa mmg miskin prestasi bro, tapi merasa dirinya yang paling hebat.
Joined: Dec 2010
From: Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2010, 01:17 AM)
And the Thais did lead the Indons for a full 13 heart-stopping-head-dropping minutes before Bambang scored the equalising penalty.
Funny how the papers need to change their headline from normal bashing the team to praising for something that happens in another field..
any information about the semifinal leg ?? when will it happen ??
QUOTE(lezciel @ Dec 8 2010, 01:21 AM)
uda kena banned mod bro...
i think it is better if we use english because we are just the guest in this forum, and we need to give the respect of the Malaysian people in here, oke brother ??
This post has been edited by koruptorbangsat: Dec 8 2010, 01:26 AM
any information about the semifinal leg ?? when will it happen ?? i think it is better if we use english because we are just the guest in this forum, and we need to give the respect of the Malaysian people in here, oke brother ??
damm i still need 2 learn more 2 master coloqial indon hahaha
anyway hope u dont mind if i ask this...is the indon majority population the malays people???bcoz when u say u r melayu from indon,,,u may b implying indon majority is not malays...so ya i damm curious 2 know more hehe
any information about the semifinal leg ?? when will it happen ?? i think it is better if we use english because we are just the guest in this forum, and we need to give the respect of the Malaysian people in here, oke brother ??
the runner-ups will play the home leg first on 15 & 16 december. Bukit jalil is on the 15th
the group winners will host the second leg on 18 & 19 (GBK).
Added on December 8, 2010, 1:36 am
QUOTE(skylinelover @ Dec 8 2010, 01:31 AM)
anda bisa cek di sini ya ni manfaatnya paket laman wiki selalu dong haha
damm i still need 2 learn more 2 master coloqial indon hahaha
anyway hope u dont mind if i ask this...is the indon majority population the malays people???bcoz when u say u r melayu from indon,,,u may b implying indon majority is not malays...so ya i damm curious 2 know more hehe
i think the majority is Jawa as in the Jawa island. Malays descend from sumatera.
The papuas also make descent footballers as in Okto and Elia Aiboi..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 01:36 AM
i think it is better if we use english because we are just the guest in this forum, and we need to give the respect of the Malaysian people in here, oke brother ??
haha tak apa loh...kita malaysia bisa paham apa kamu semua bertutur...hanya cara ayat dikonstruktorkan ada beza besar aja lolz
well i m ok if yall indon prefer 2 speak mother tongue bcoz i know majority indon not english literate unlike malaysia where all schools compulsory 2 take english subject...indon mayb very little school only teaches english subject...correct me if i m wrong bcoz i not sure haha
Added on December 8, 2010, 1:40 am
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2010, 01:32 AM)
i think the majority is Jawa as in the Jawa island. Malays descend from sumatera.
The papuas also make descent footballers as in Okto and Elia Aiboi..
haha ic that is interesting
so does that mean malaysia malays r descended from sumatra too hmm
This post has been edited by skylinelover: Dec 8 2010, 01:40 AM
damm i still need 2 learn more 2 master coloqial indon hahaha
anyway hope u dont mind if i ask this...is the indon majority population the malays people???bcoz when u say u r melayu from indon,,,u may b implying indon majority is not malays...so ya i damm curious 2 know more hehe
yeah i am Melayu in Kalimantan, there are another Melayu tribes in Sumatera Indonesia has a lot of tribes such as Jawa, Sunda, Madura, Dayak, Melayu, Padang, Papua, bugis, and many more ( i could not mention it one by one, it was a lot of tribes ) if you need more information you can contact me, i will expalin it
QUOTE(skylinelover @ Dec 8 2010, 01:38 AM)
haha tak apa loh...kita malaysia bisa paham apa kamu semua bertutur...hanya cara ayat dikonstruktorkan ada beza besar aja lolz
well i m ok if yall indon prefer 2 speak mother tongue bcoz i know majority indon not english literate unlike malaysia where all schools compulsory 2 take english subject...indon mayb very little school only teaches english subject...correct me if i m wrong bcoz i not sure haha
Added on December 8, 2010, 1:40 am
haha ic that is interesting
so does that mean malaysia malays r descended from sumatra too hmm
yeah i know it, even Our melayu language is different with your Melayu language when i was a child i always watch Bujang Lapok movies, it was so nice movie
in Indonesia, we have to talk in Bahasa Indonesia, because it was our identity but some School like International School in Indonesia use english because i was a poor people so i couldn't study there here my english was so bad
This post has been edited by koruptorbangsat: Dec 8 2010, 01:49 AM
haha tak apa loh...kita malaysia bisa paham apa kamu semua bertutur...hanya cara ayat dikonstruktorkan ada beza besar aja lolz
well i m ok if yall indon prefer 2 speak mother tongue bcoz i know majority indon not english literate unlike malaysia where all schools compulsory 2 take english subject...indon mayb very little school only teaches english subject...correct me if i m wrong bcoz i not sure haha
Added on December 8, 2010, 1:40 am
haha ic that is interesting
so does that mean malaysia malays r descended from sumatra too hmm
since i join in this lounge..i think theres 6-7 indonesian member here..
they speak campuran between indo-english.. hehe..
i also hav many malaysian friend since i worked to singaporean company that also hav many malaysian crew also..
i think the formal bahasa is almost same..
When i saw Upin-Ipin in TV, their language is still using its original without editor in dubbing..
This post has been edited by lezciel: Dec 8 2010, 01:52 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
From: Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2010, 02:10 AM)
helll yeah...!!!!
we dont want to lose to Gelora Bung Karno now do we....
among of Singapore, Vietnam and Philipine, which one do you prefer to match with Malaysia, brother ?? i am personally hoping Indonesia will battle to Singapore in semifinals
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2010, 02:10 AM)
helll yeah...!!!!
we dont want to lose to Gelora Bung Karno now do we....
Added on December 8, 2010, 2:12 am
but the Palembang field is very nice.. even with such heavy rain, the water is not clogging...
the previous field we played although i cannot complain much because it also make the Thais shooting wayward..
yeah brother, i am agree, jaka Baring have a good field, it was used in Asia cup. Gelora Bung Karno have bad field, maybe it because of a tight schedule...
This post has been edited by koruptorbangsat: Dec 8 2010, 02:16 AM
among of Singapore, Vietnam and Philipine, which one do you prefer to match with Malaysia, brother ?? i am personally hoping Indonesia will battle to Singapore in semifinals
i hope Filipin win vs already eliminated Myanmmar tomorrow...and meet u sin the semis's
and singapore to eliminate vietnam to meet you guys...
we are really not good to play nippy teams like Vietnam .. the earlier they go out the better...
Added on December 8, 2010, 2:24 am
QUOTE(koruptorbangsat @ Dec 8 2010, 02:19 AM)
Philippine was not a weak team, bro they have 8 import player, two of them ever play in England League, they win when play with Vietnam
we are more comfortable playing against English style teams..
seing Vietnam, Thai and Laos short passing around really not good for my heart...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 02:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
From: Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2010, 02:20 AM)
i hope Filipin win vs already eliminated Myanmmar tomorrow...and meet u sin the semis's
and singapore to eliminate vietnam to meet you guys...
we are really not good to play nippy teams like Vietnam .. the earlier they go out the better...
yeah, everything can be happened we just wait and see i could not imagine if Malaysia will meet Indonesia in Final, i am afraid of the Indonesian's loyal fans
did you know them ? it was my childhood history i always watch them when i was a child in my remote village in West Kalimantan
This post has been edited by koruptorbangsat: Dec 8 2010, 02:51 AM
yeah, everything can be happened we just wait and see i could not imagine if Malaysia will meet Indonesia in Final, i am afraid of the Indonesian's loyal fans
from what i heard about the opening match also no good.
1) Indo's VIP did not stand up during Negaraku 2) Malaysia fans were pelted with wood and water bottle 3) There were no buffer zone at all between Malaysia fans and Indonesia fans
oooo... if the authorities felt Kelantan fans were a handfull for the Malaysia Cup final, wait until the see Indonesia fans filling Bukit Jalil for the AFF Cup final..
armies should involve..... seriously...
edit : p-ramlee movies never got old here..
Added on December 8, 2010, 2:37 ampoint to ponder :
Despite Indonesia and Vietnam's runaway rout in front of goal so far in the tournament, our very own Amri Yahya and Nor Sharul Idlan Talaha are still the joint top scorer with 2 goals...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 02:38 AM
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From: Singkawang, Kalimantan Barat, Indonesia
QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2010, 02:32 AM)
from what i heard about the opening match also no good.
1) Indo's VIP did not stand up during Negaraku 2) Malaysia fans were pelted with wood and water bottle 3) There were no buffer zone at all between Malaysia fans and Indonesia fans oooo... if the authorities felt Kelantan fans were a handfull for the Malaysia Cup final, wait until the see Indonesia fans filling Bukit Jalil for the AFF Cup final..
armies should involve..... seriously...
edit : p-ramlee movies never got old here..
it was i am afraid of Indonesia was so loyal to their football team now, i study in Bandung, west Java. fans of Bandung football team ( viking ) is mortal enemy of the fans of Jakarta football team ( the Jack ) .. it was so very terrible. armies cannot stop them
but do not worry for international match, it was so very safe trust me there were no case until now
This post has been edited by koruptorbangsat: Dec 8 2010, 02:49 AM
it was i am afraid of Indonesia was so loyal to their football team now, i study in Bandung, west Java. fans of Bandung football team ( viking ) is mortal enemy of Jakarta football team ( the Jack ) .. it was so very terrible. armies cannot stop them
yeah.. i also heard of the jak, bonek and the vikings.
they are prettty intense.... here in Malaysia we only have Kelantan fans - the red warriors - with the same organized high level fan spirit.
Added on December 8, 2010, 2:58 amthis is indeed a wonderful night. i tried to strecth it as long as i could but i have to succumb finally to the fact that tomorrow i still have to go to work... even with how pointless it felt at this very moment...
good night everyone .. dont forget to watch our propestive opponent tomorrow..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 02:58 AM
so the final will go to home/away system too? i still remember they had home away system in final, not sure which tournament thou and i think it was aff suzuki cup/tiger cup.
Philippine is not the old philipine, they are now strengthen by foreign players. it was like a new Philippine.
At least there are still people out there supporting their own national team. I felt embarrassed and inferior when i watched the match between Indonesia v Malaysia the other day, look at their supporters and compare it to ours. There are more than 1-2 millions population here in KL/Klang Valley and yet we still failed to fill up the 80k seats in Bukit Jalil unless it's an EPL club v Malaysia.
so the final will go to home/away system too? i still remember they had home away system in final, not sure which tournament thou and i think it was aff suzuki cup/tiger cup.
Philippine is not the old philipine, they are now strengthen by foreign players. it was like a new Philippine.
I dun think they are "foreign" players unlike the import player which play for Indonesia and Singapore team, they still philippine just some of them are mix and some of them are born at other country which still play abroad, but u r right they not the Philippine which we can trash them 5-0 easily like many years ago.
This post has been edited by nakata101: Dec 8 2010, 09:25 AM
people in there have much more in-depth knowledge of our football than here and much more critical. So understandbly they are the most frustrated about things and sometimes too harsh. But all are done in the spirit of loving our local football.
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 09:47 AM
I dun think they are "foreign" players unlike the import player which play for Indonesia and Singapore team, they still philippine just some of them are mix and some of them are born at other country which still play abroad, but u r right they not the Philippine which we can trash them 5-0 easily like many years ago.
fyi,phil and james younghusband are ex-chelsea trainee.if only we could call up shaun maloney last time.
At least there are still people out there supporting their own national team. I felt embarrassed and inferior when i watched the match between Indonesia v Malaysia the other day, look at their supporters and compare it to ours. There are more than 1-2 millions population here in KL/Klang Valley and yet we still failed to fill up the 80k seats in Bukit Jalil unless it's an EPL club v Malaysia.
I saw the match last night. Even though we started slow, but surely we got better later in the game. I noticed some really good players especially the no. 9 and the right winger came in just before half time.
But I also noticed Laos has improved a lot since the last time I watch SEA football. Even the Phil are beating Vietnam. I guess there's no more 'punching bag' in our region now and that's good news for SEA football.
One more thing I heard from the commentary during the game last night; Malaysia will be allowing foreign players in the local football league. Is that good news or not?
I'm impressed with the crowd at the GBK stadium. It was like a South American stadium. IMHO, made the Kallang roar into a harmless ***** meow.
Hats off to you, Indonesian cousins.
Supporting football in the stadiums is very foreign in Malaysian and Singaporean culture.. most of the people never sat foot in one, and are clueless what to do if they do.
we are more used to calm and order of watching in front of the tv sets and mamak stalls..
while our players need to look abroad to imrove their skills, our fans also must do the same as well. We dont have to go far.. our good neighbour is aready a high level benchmark in this reagion in term of football supporting...
CLOCKWISE : VIKING (PERSIB BANDUNG), JAK-MANIA (PERSIJA JAKARTA), AREMANIA (AREMA MALANG), BONEK (PERSEBAYA SURABAYA). credit to bro Sahadeva from HMC.
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 11:58 AM
fyi,phil and james younghusband are ex-chelsea trainee.if only we could call up shaun maloney last time.
lol ... i think maloney rather represent NI or wales.
Added on December 8, 2010, 12:01 pm
QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Dec 8 2010, 11:43 AM)
I saw the match last night. Even though we started slow, but surely we got better later in the game. I noticed some really good players especially the no. 9 and the right winger came in just before half time.
But I also noticed Laos has improved a lot since the last time I watch SEA football. Even the Phil are beating Vietnam. I guess there's no more 'punching bag' in our region now and that's good news for SEA football.
One more thing I heard from the commentary during the game last night; Malaysia will be allowing foreign players in the local football league. Is that good news or not?
good for fans, no good at all in developing malaysia football.
This post has been edited by BoltonMan: Dec 8 2010, 12:01 PM
Malaysia need to start building football stadium .. rather than having a running track around the field ... but then, security has to be tight cos the number of water bottles raining down from the terrace could be dangerous to players
I saw the match last night. Even though we started slow, but surely we got better later in the game. I noticed some really good players especially the no. 9 and the right winger came in just before half time.
But I also noticed Laos has improved a lot since the last time I watch SEA football. Even the Phil are beating Vietnam. I guess there's no more 'punching bag' in our region now and that's good news for SEA football.
One more thing I heard from the commentary during the game last night; Malaysia will be allowing foreign players in the local football league. Is that good news or not?
the no.9 is M-League's MVP and Best Striker this year. Kelantan striker Nor Shahrul Idlan Talaha. our custodian is league's Best Goalkeeer also Kelantan's Khairul Fahmi Che mat
it is no suprise that they are our most outstanding player in the tournament thus far.. but we are missing dearly our Best Defender : N9's Aidil Zafuan and Best Midfeilder : Kedah's Badrol Baktiar... those 2 department really need a lot of backing up.
the import players issue give divided opinion among the fans. Most people wants them back because they make the league more interesting. But our NT has improved tremendeously since we ban the imports, aguably because RG's players starting to hold down key responsbility positions normaly given to import players in the state teams.
for me, i want the no import player experiment to be extended for a few more years to get more conclusive data on it's impact..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 12:20 PM
good vision by Lamno Singtao to create the first goal for Laos. I dunno who the blame from our defense line.. the cross was taken early meaning not yet fully in our fullback territory to block.. and the flight of the cross was made just nice to make sure our centreback will never won the race to block the ball path.. a perfect cross direct to the path of the running striker..
how do you stop that? propably experienced players like Flampard or Pryoboy can exlain?
good vision by Lamno Singtao to create the first goal for Laos. I dunno who the blame from our defense line.. the cross was taken early meaning not yet fully in our fullback territory to block.. and the flight of the cross was made just nice to make sure our centreback will never won the race to block the ball path.. a perfect cross direct to the path of the running striker..
how do you stop that? propably experienced players like Flampard or Pryoboy can exlain?
nothing much really, when the cross comes in the 2 defenders aren't aware of the unmarked strikers, i guess that's the mistake there. if the defenders, especially the one nearer to the crosser can cut back and challenge for the ball, then maybe the goal can be prevented. Still there's some occasions where theres nothing much you can do, as the cross in and the header is perfect, so credit to them.
but im not experienced, especially in defending situation, i usually play up front
the thing is the fullback gave too much space for the opposition to make the cross...he followed the winger but not close enough...
that could backfire if the opposition is a good dribbler. going too close then if hes beaten, the space behind him will be wide open. i guess its important to know what kinda player that crosser is, then can decide whether to close down or stand off.
About the foreign players rules. I think it will be better if limit to maybe 3/4 foreign in the team. If too many foreign players scared end up like some nations where league is good but national team sucks badly.
One more thing I heard from the commentary during the game last night; Malaysia will be allowing foreign players in the local football league. Is that good news or not?
IMO the decision (barring import players in M-League) largely because of financial reason. numbers of clubs 'gulung tikar' after few seasons (KL Plus, MYTeam, MPPJ, Public Bank etc) and some State FA (Penang, Kelantan, Sarawak, Perak, etc) had financial problems few years ago. mostly they had failed to pay their players salary, lack of sponsorship and largely dependent on FAM's grant. most foreigner are paid in USD and had bigger salary than local players. hiring them will only make things worse financially.
most FA leaders are politician, arent competent, overly dependent on financial aid /allocation from government and FAM. none of the FA really self -sufficient financially (but Kelantan FA did really well these days)
if we look on footballing view only, foreigner (quality player) will bring non other than great impact to our football development.
on negative side, most team love to hire foreigner striker. so, local striker cant showcase their talent/ limited opportunity. i remember the days local team can hire 4 imports (not so sure), most of them play in attacking position. and we rarely see local striker in top 5 of scoring chart.
at the end of the day, its Catch-22. i prefer foreigner allowed (1/2 players each team). with additional rules to make sure the team capable to pay their salary (and other things).
This post has been edited by dundermifflin: Dec 8 2010, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(cleave @ Dec 8 2010, 10:25 AM)
I'm impressed with the crowd at the GBK stadium. It was like a South American stadium. IMHO, made the Kallang roar into a harmless ***** meow.
Hats off to you, Indonesian cousins.
just for information my brother, the indonesian supporters will be always stay there even Our team lose in the match supporting our nation team was so a honorable for our people, it something like WAR, showing our national identity, showing our nationalism.
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Dec 8 2010, 02:26 PM)
most FA leaders are politician, arent competent, overly dependent on financial aid /allocation from government and FAM. none of the FA really self -sufficient financially (but Kelantan FA did really well these days)
Ironic that it's due to Annuar Musa being downgraded from UMNO Kelantan leadership that he can focus on KAFA
casillas and valdez not tall @ all .. its not about height, its the talent that counts ..
casillas:1.81m victor valdez:1.83m
kedua-duanya mempunyai ketinggian melebihi 1.8m.terutama sekali casillas,walaupun beliau seorang pemberhenti ledakan yang baik,beliau acap kali dikalahkan oleh tendangan yang menuju ke penjuru atas gol.
saya tidak menidakkan bakat khairul fahmi,tetapi penjaga gol merupakan satu peranan yang memerlukan janglauan serta ketinggian pemain,sama seperti ketinggian serta fizikal bagi pertahanan tengah.malang bagi mohd sharbinee,yang lebih tinggi daripada khairul fahmi,tetapi tidak menunjukkan potensi sebenar beliau ketika menentang indon
saya juga mempersoalkan mengapa syed adney tidak dipilih bersama sama khairul fahmi.adakah beliau cedera?
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 8 2010, 05:00 PM)
casillas:1.81m victor valdez:1.83m
kedua-duanya mempunyai ketinggian melebihi 1.8m.terutama sekali casillas,walaupun beliau seorang pemberhenti ledakan yang baik,beliau acap kali dikalahkan oleh tendangan yang menuju ke penjuru atas gol.
saya tidak menidakkan bakat khairul fahmi,tetapi penjaga gol merupakan satu peranan yang memerlukan janglauan serta ketinggian pemain,sama seperti ketinggian serta fizikal bagi pertahanan tengah.malang bagi mohd sharbinee,yang lebih tinggi daripada khairul fahmi,tetapi tidak menunjukkan potensi sebenar beliau ketika menentang indon
saya juga mempersoalkan mengapa syed adney tidak dipilih bersama sama khairul fahmi.adakah beliau cedera?
Syed Adney ?? Tall doesnt meant he good.. Did you ever see him play ??
This post has been edited by cipan2001: Dec 8 2010, 06:22 PM
Kelantan fans easily can fill up any stadium in Malaysia. 90k at Bukit Jalil is not a problem at all but I didnt expect Std Bukit Jalil will be full house this 15 dec because there are still many Malaysian didnt care about our football.
FAM, mass media, TV didnt help too much to attract fans to fill up the stadium because lack of advertisement, lack of information about Malaysia football.
Hopefully, something drastic action can be make in order to ensure this 15 Dec, bukit Jalil will be full.
the thing is the fullback gave too much space for the opposition to make the cross...he followed the winger but not close enough...
i think the full back dont to commit too soon higher up. he want to lure the winger to bring the ball further down the byline where the space is much more limited.. the early bending cross was really unexpected.
Added on December 8, 2010, 7:26 pm
QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 8 2010, 05:00 PM)
casillas:1.81m victor valdez:1.83m
kedua-duanya mempunyai ketinggian melebihi 1.8m.terutama sekali casillas,walaupun beliau seorang pemberhenti ledakan yang baik,beliau acap kali dikalahkan oleh tendangan yang menuju ke penjuru atas gol.
saya tidak menidakkan bakat khairul fahmi,tetapi penjaga gol merupakan satu peranan yang memerlukan janglauan serta ketinggian pemain,sama seperti ketinggian serta fizikal bagi pertahanan tengah.malang bagi mohd sharbinee,yang lebih tinggi daripada khairul fahmi,tetapi tidak menunjukkan potensi sebenar beliau ketika menentang indon
saya juga mempersoalkan mengapa syed adney tidak dipilih bersama sama khairul fahmi.adakah beliau cedera?
syed adney is shite man... his decision making and shot stopping is below par...height doesnt mean everything.. i think K.Fahmi's lack of height is covered by his excellent positioning and handling... he is almost as good as Pippo Inzaghi in term of ability to be at the right place at the right time..
what more important in terms of GK is the ability to instill confidence to your centrebacks... Sharbinee failed to do so in the first match.
although k.Fahmi do need to brush up on his communication. i heard he is tooo quiet for a goalkeeper..
Added on December 8, 2010, 7:31 pm
QUOTE(SecrET_of_RainBOw @ Dec 8 2010, 01:37 PM)
i think our current GK best keeper we ever have
since the days of Kamaruzzaman Hassan we already had several best keeper ever...
That was said about Farizal Marlias after the Man U game... the same was also said about sharbinee after the Sea Games..
lets see how things goes with Khairul Fahmi
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 07:36 PM
This season, Syed Adney is the first goalkeeper but with many costly errors and mistake, Khairul Fahmi given chance and he prove it. This season, he just concede lowest in Super League and only 3 goals in Malaysia with 2 of them via spot kick.
He's lack of height but his positioning really good. I dont think good height can ensure that u are good goalkeeper. Syed Adney good everything but still failed to deliver.
This season, Syed Adney is the first goalkeeper but with many costly errors and mistake, Khairul Fahmi given chance and he prove it. This season, he just concede lowest in Super League and only 3 goals in Malaysia with 2 of them via spot kick.
He's lack of height but his positioning really good. I dont think good height can ensure that u are good goalkeeper. Syed Adney good everything but still failed to deliver.
yup, Khairul Fahmi looks to be our best bet for the GK position for now. the only mistake he made that i'm aware of was the Laos goal last night, which i thought he could do much better since the header was directed not far to his right. other than that, i think he performed very well when given the chances. saved our ass a few times as well IIRC
yup, Khairul Fahmi looks to be our best bet for the GK position for now. the only mistake he made that i'm aware of was the Laos goal last night, which i thought he could do much better since the header was directed not far to his right. other than that, i think he performed very well when given the chances. saved our ass a few times as well IIRC
to be quite honest, with the time and space the striker have to head the ball, k. fahmi did well to even get a hand on it.. but i am sure he also felt unsatisified he cannot put much more strength to push it..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 08:05 PM
yup, Khairul Fahmi looks to be our best bet for the GK position for now. the only mistake he made that i'm aware of was the Laos goal last night, which i thought he could do much better since the header was directed not far to his right. other than that, i think he performed very well when given the chances. saved our ass a few times as well IIRC
i never rate Syed Adney anyway
agree with u. I think he can do better but the centre back marking can be question. How come 2 CB at the midfield didnt aware Laos striker near them.
agree with u. I think he can do better but the centre back marking can be question. How come 2 CB at the midfield didnt aware Laos striker near them.
perfect ghosting move by the striker...
in my opinion the only way you can stop that kind of ball if the the crosser over steer it so the keeper can catch it or understeer it so that the centreback can head it out...
when they beautifully put it on the platter between the defender and goalkeeper like that you can only hope the striker chokes...
the laos's and both Amri yahya's goals are the type of goals that make the people who assist them goes "oouuuuuuuuuu " when the striker can finish it...
i would trade scoring 2 goals if i can make 1 assist like that... they will be played over and over again in my mind for weeks...
height not important.important is u know ur position when someone attack .syed adney? Poor him
totally wrong, to be a good goalkeeper, u must have a good height, good reflex and good positioning Khairul Fahmi is really good goalkeeper since he have great reflex and always care his positioning but he not perfect
i think Fahmi is also calm and tidak gelabah, so he can easily "control" the situation when under siege. a good keeper also needs to be composed and not get nervous when a difficult situation comes in.
As for the Laos goal, yes very accurate passing and hard heading, so i dont blame goalie to stop that, if Fahmi did that would be very good. The striker took advantage of the area between the 2 CBs. the further CB could have spotted him and try to move in and challenge for the ball and maybe can prevent the goal, but other than that theres nothing much u can do to stop pinpoint crosses like that.
This season, Syed Adney is the first goalkeeper but with many costly errors and mistake, Khairul Fahmi given chance and he prove it. This season, he just concede lowest in Super League and only 3 goals in Malaysia with 2 of them via spot kick.
He's lack of height but his positioning really good. I dont think good height can ensure that u are good goalkeeper. Syed Adney good everything but still failed to deliver.
Syed Adney, he totally good especially when play away from Kota Bharu, the problem with him is he really under pressure with own fan, his mentality and focus really low when play at home
his performance really different, in away match he really good in positioning and reflex, i still remember when he save Kelantan from lost to Terengganu in Super League this season
But i still choose Khairul Fahmi as Kelantan no 1 GK
We should find new Khairul Azman, he is the best Malaysia GK i ever watch, he has complete package to be a good GK
Right now we seem Khairul Fahmi really good, but do we remember Asia Cup when we lost to Uzbek, China and Iran, they totally keep crossing the ball because our centre back and goalkeeper too short to deal with height ball.
kadang kala saya tertanya tanya mengapa pemain pemain jepun dan korea selatan semuanya tinggi tinggi belaka perlawanan timbal balik
they really good in science, no wonder their team have sport science officer even have the nutritionist who will take care about player food and drink
we only realize that and start the sport science program but our youth team didn't have that, MSN and other sport organization only appl sport science to our main squad, and some youth in SBJ and SSBP
let see the state football team`s staff, i dont know about other state but in Kelantan we only have physiotherapist, no one care what our player eat and drink, this is why our player short, dont have a good stamina and weak in physical aspect
calm down brother, everything happened in football. just giving your best to your national team. support them
i will support my team no matter win, lose or draw. no question about that.
its the "bukit jalil' first timers that i worried about. Ohh.. i can hear it now.. false dawn and 'harapan palsu' words will be thrown around. These EPL top four supporters will not except a 90 minutes defensive game like we put up against the thais at home.. the RM 10 ticket will be tooo expensive for them just to watch that..
this vietnam team is wayyy better than the thais...
i was hoping if our national team drawn against Philipines, they can at least put out a show to these shallow people..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 10:52 PM
i will support my team no matter win, lose or draw. no question about that.
its the "bukit jalil' first timers that i worried about. Ohh.. i can hear it now.. false dawn and 'harapan palsu' words will be thrown around. These EPL top four supporters will not except a 90 minutes defensive game like we put up against the thais at home.. the RM 10 ticket will be tooo expensive for them just to watch that..
this vietnam team is wayyy better than the thais...
i was hoping if our national team drawn against Philipines, they can at least put out a show to these shallow people..
let's say if vietnam lead with 1 goal margin until 80th minute, i bet the stadium will be 80% empty. loser mentality. only 1 goal that separate us between vietnam and still have a lot of time to play, tak boleh tunggu ke?
vietnam will play defensive at BJ i think.. pull out their dirty play just like they do in final SEA games...especially their keeper keep waste the time,,,disturb the flow of the game
vietnam will play defensive at BJ i think.. pull out their dirty play just like they do in final SEA games...especially their keeper keep waste the time,,,disturb the flow of the game
Make no mistake. This Vietnam senior team is way better than their Sea Games team...whereas our team is a notch below our Sea Games team due to key absentees.
im sorry because my english is not, and maybe i can improve my english here..
congrats for your natioanl team
i hope final match will be Indonesia vs Malaysia
its ok ... my english also not very good... i blame it on the keyboard...
yeah.. a rematch with Indonesia would be sweet... i will be much more confident that will happen if we were drawn against Philipines in the semis.. As it turn out, that half-arsed, tiny, pain-in-the-butt neighbour of us down south cannot be depended on to give us that pleasure...
the whole 180 minutes semi final against Vietnam will be tough especially as they will be playing at home in the second leg.
it would be an absolute cracker if we managed to get through...
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 8 2010, 11:55 PM
anyone know where i can buy the ticket ? and how much? Thanks.
just come 1-2 hours before the game on matchday.. international match ticket at bukit jalil normally available in an abundace... normal price is RM10.. but i dunno if they will mark some up for AFF.
Assuming all seats are RM10, and the stadium is full every match, that would fetch about RM1 million per match. Now, if all this money is used to develop our football, maybe an increase of ticket price would be good? increase ticket price to RM20 would double the income to RM2m! However i think regular folks wouldnt think it is worth paying that much to watch the national team, like as discussed before, with the standard of the football not many people will be willing to splash out a lot (sadly). But without fundings, its hard for improvements too, like training facilities, better equipments etc.
Of course there are a lot of factors to consider such as the spending power of the general community, or whether the money will be put to good use (instead of pockets ). But i'm just thinking, its the loop that is being mentioned before isnt it? people wont support the national team if it doesnt improve, but to improve the team needs support from the people, financially and morally.
This post has been edited by pyroboy1911: Dec 9 2010, 02:18 AM