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toshio14	Nov 17 2010, 05:37 AM Return to original view \| Post #1
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Nov 16 2010, 11:25 PM) How about his brother Zaquan ? We cannot rely too much on Norsharul Idlan didn't we have a young striker, pretty tall and tough build goes by the name Syakir IINM. i was actually quite impressed by him last time i saw him play and regarding the Suzuki Cup, are we sending the senior team or the U23 team to the tournament? am a little bit in the dark over our national team policy now
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toshio14	Nov 18 2010, 07:27 AM Return to original view \| Post #2
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	re : Titus. i always thought that the reason he didn't play for our national team was because he is not good enough, no?
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toshio14	Nov 19 2010, 08:28 AM Return to original view \| Post #3
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	if you can't feel proud for the team that giving their all e.g. our depleted team in the Asian Games, then that is your problem. don't go telling people to stop feel that way i don't usually comment on the national team due to lack of information and playing time coverage for them. however i will say this, i am very proud of the national team performances in the Asian Games even i do not really happy with the tactics deployed(i guess the (un)availability of the players forced Coach Raja hand in playing all those tactics). it really showed that we are in the right track to rebuilt our national football team now, on to AFF Cup. hopefully we will have more of the regulars for this i.e. Baddrol, Sabree, the N9 twin etc This post has been edited by toshio14: Nov 19 2010, 08:29 AM
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toshio14	Nov 19 2010, 04:07 PM Return to original view \| Post #4
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(nakata101 @ Nov 19 2010, 03:06 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Lets see how long they will take.... hope not running around a small circle.... I have no problem with this, why i should have it?? Actually i should feel pround like u guys, but untill i find out who we play with, i suddenly turn back the pround feeling, i find out the Japan U23 is not U23, but only U21, that is nothing, then i check their player game stated, i find out many of them still play for University club, some play for JL2, some even still on reserved team, never play for starting at all.... the worse thing is they said they dint play their best at all which mean they have underestimate us....about China U23, this one more worst, i mean the china U23 team totally suxx, after the game which Korea of Republic beat them 3-0, some of the Korea player said that they feel they are playing with school kid players.... China ppl also said China woman team also can beat them... so u guys think this is ok.... still can feel pround bcoz we look better than b4.... that ok for u n other, but i m here to tell the facts, not try to give hurt feeling. i shouldn't have said 'your problem'. what i meant was if you can't feel proud for the (depleted) national team that giving their all, then that's your thing. do not go and tell other people they should have not feel proud also the main problem with majority of the fans (those that i know and see) is that when come to criticizing our national team, they tend to 1. have problem in accepting where our national team are now; ability-wise, ranking-wise comparatively to other big Asian football nations 2. which lead to unrealistic expectation 3. which in turn lead to not acknowledging any kind of improvement that we've made so as long as we do not accept that we are no longer (long time already la) 1 of the Asian football powerhouse, we will always see the kind of criticism that you were throwing to the national team performances. heck, we are not even the top team in SEA region anymore
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toshio14	Dec 2 2010, 01:34 AM Return to original view \| Post #5
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	that was simply terrible. as if they were all afraid of having the ball and return to the 'asalkan bola tak ada kat kaki aku' habit and Safiq does not looks like a captain at all to me. all the matches i watched recently; 3 at Asian Games + 1 at Suzuki Cup he does not looks inspiring at all. do we really not have any other better candidates for the captaincy?
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toshio14	Dec 6 2010, 07:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #6
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	Indonesia already confirmed as group champion, right?
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toshio14	Dec 6 2010, 07:37 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 6 2010, 07:11 PM) yap... unassailable lead.. then i'm going to prepare myself mentally for tomorrow by thinking that Indonesia will not play to their true strength as they do not have the needs to risk their squad with injuries and suspensions, hence Thailand will beat them and end our hope of progressing to the next round in this AFF Cup. i'd like to think it'll hurt less if i'm already have that kind of thinking before it happens and, it's not like our game against Laos is a straightforward thing also. based on both team performances so far in this competition, tomorrow match looks set to be a very competitive; what's more with all 3 teams still can get the 2nd position if results go their way. but nonetheless, i will be very disappointed if we fail to beat Laos tomorrow
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toshio14	Dec 7 2010, 09:35 AM Return to original view \| Post #8
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(nakata101 @ Dec 6 2010, 10:43 PM) So, do u point that if they beat us just bcoz they got import player??? or maybe, he just want to raise a very good issue for discussion i.e. regarding the neutralized player. i even believe it warranted a different topic altogether, such an interesting topic that is. QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 6 2010, 10:57 PM) i think he just talking generally about player naturalization activity in south east asia... exactly, this topic really is an interesting topic. i never really give it a thought initially, it's always a big NO NO for me for Malaysia to use neutralized player from outside. however, when Nelson Sam Martin was playing for Kedah for 3 seasons IINM i must admit that it did cross my mind on how much better our national team would be if we have Nelson pulling the strings from the midfield. because, we really do not have any creative midfielder then, nor that we have any now from the looks of things anyway, like i said the issue with neutralized players probably warranted discussion at different topic
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toshio14	Dec 7 2010, 05:42 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 7 2010, 03:46 PM) if we got more chinese & sabah/sarawak footballers, we don't need foreign players. enuff said what exactly is your point here? no need to beat around the bushes, just come out and say it. who knows, it may lead to an interesting discussion Added on December 7, 2010, 5:46 pm QUOTE(jhianchoek @ Dec 7 2010, 04:58 PM) I think Indonesian will play fair and not trying to lose from thailand, because the match will be play at gelora bung karno. no scenario I think ! i'm sure that Indonesia will not want to lose to Thailand. my point actually was that since they do not have to risk injuries and suspensions to their main players, the team will not play to their true strength. maybe the reserves will get the chances to play tonight for Indonesia. which is what i'll be doing if my team is in the same situation This post has been edited by toshio14: Dec 7 2010, 05:46 PM
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toshio14	Dec 8 2010, 07:55 PM Return to original view \| Post #10
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(gry @ Dec 8 2010, 07:52 PM) This season, Syed Adney is the first goalkeeper but with many costly errors and mistake, Khairul Fahmi given chance and he prove it. This season, he just concede lowest in Super League and only 3 goals in Malaysia with 2 of them via spot kick. He's lack of height but his positioning really good. I dont think good height can ensure that u are good goalkeeper. Syed Adney good everything but still failed to deliver. yup, Khairul Fahmi looks to be our best bet for the GK position for now. the only mistake he made that i'm aware of was the Laos goal last night, which i thought he could do much better since the header was directed not far to his right. other than that, i think he performed very well when given the chances. saved our ass a few times as well IIRC i never rate Syed Adney anyway
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toshio14	Dec 15 2010, 06:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(nazanto @ Dec 15 2010, 05:46 PM) i definitely cant go to the match as i am in penang atm. but the match got live on Arena right? or RTM also got live? same here, cannot go also so through TV it is la for me tonight i'm quite sure the commentator of our earlier matches keep on repeating that Astro will be showing all AFF Cup matches live, so am assuming that this match will be shown live by Astro also
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toshio14	Dec 15 2010, 10:14 PM Return to original view \| Post #12
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(BoomJet @ Dec 15 2010, 10:02 PM) Second leg malaysia just defend all game lah... ! Damn happy that's the recipe for disaster. furthermore, we are not even that good to defend for 90 minutes and get away with it go and play our normal game. play pacy winger and attacker, and we'll be fine IMO QUOTE(HumbleCMY @ Dec 15 2010, 10:09 PM) Our Centre Defenders coped well without Aidil <3 Malaysia's worst player tonight is Norshahrul IMO, and that speaks a lot, cause Norshahrul still better than 60% of Vietnam players. nope, i thought Amar and Asarudin were our worst player today, as if we do not have better DM and LB
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toshio14	Dec 16 2010, 06:06 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	re : 2nd goal. memang offside, dan tak sepatutnya dibenarkan. sebab masa si Safiq (rasanya) shoot, Safee memang dah dalam position offside. dan kita tak boleh kata dia tak interfere dengan permainan sebab dia yang follow up bola muntah tu untuk score. jadi pendapat aku memang offside la anyway, ada aku kesah offside? dah sampai peringkat ni, dan memandangkan keadaan team kita we will accept all the luck that come our way dan juga Dato's Hasbullah dan Richard Scully (aku memang tak bole blah dia ni punya ulasan) ada cakap yang Vietnam #6 (IINM) 2x dapat yellow card tapi tak sent off. anybody knows anything about this?
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toshio14	Dec 16 2010, 06:44 PM Return to original view \| Post #14
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(accab @ Dec 16 2010, 06:24 PM) bro, nak tanya gol pertama kenapa dibatalkan. aku duk kat stadium org kat sebelah aku belakang aku depan aku semua aku tanya x tahu. kenapa dibatalkan? bro, aku cuma tengok mula dari menet ke 35. jadi kemungkinan besar insiden yang kau tanya ni berlaku sebelum tu, dan aku tak boleh nak komen pasal ni
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toshio14	Dec 16 2010, 08:02 PM Return to original view \| Post #15
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(couldplay @ Dec 16 2010, 07:31 PM) Bkn offside la..xmasuk pn.bola kena tiang belakang. ooo...yang Safee free header tu ka? yang tu memang tak masuk pon, walaupon dah menjerit bini aku kat rumah ingatkan gol dia head out, kena tiang yang ikat jaring gol tu then bidas kena bahagian belakang jaring gol. sebab tu nampak macam gol
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toshio14	Dec 17 2010, 12:41 AM Return to original view \| Post #16
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 16 2010, 08:56 PM) kalau safee tak offside pun, defender vietnam takkan sempat nak intercept bola rebound tu well, it does not work like that though. it matters not whether the opponent defenders manage to intercept or not, if you are offside then you are offside la anyway like i said earlier, ada aku kesah gol tu offside
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toshio14	Dec 18 2010, 06:15 PM Return to original view \| Post #17
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(miketee @ Dec 18 2010, 06:01 PM) So apparently our second goal may not be offside at all - according to the "new" offside rules. The striker may be in an offside position, but the ball wasn't played directly to him. http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/12/15/offside-goal/ no bro, it's not like that at all. both situation (our 2nd goal and the goals quoted in your referred link) are different. our 2nd goal was offside because the moment Safiq shoot the ball, Safee is already in an offside position before he (Safee) be the first to follow up the bola muntah. that is offside. while those goals given in you referred link were more to strikers using the offside rule to their advantage i.e. staying further up the pitch waiting for the ball to be sent to them, in an onside position. because the ball usually played to their other team mate first before that other team mate pass the ball to the strikers, giving the strikers time to play himself onside This post has been edited by toshio14: Dec 18 2010, 06:17 PM
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toshio14	Dec 18 2010, 07:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #18
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(MaGNiFiCo @ Dec 18 2010, 06:18 PM) why the hell we still disc that our goal was offside or not. vietnam doesnt appeal anythin why should we bother? because this is a forum, you know where people discuss things QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 18 2010, 06:36 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « nope.. the situations explained there are of different case.. they involves 2 play where as the striker was offside on the first play but onside on the second play... in the game vs Vietnam, we have a situation almost similar like this from a corner were safiq pass the ball to an off side Amirul Hadi and Vietnam's defense line stopped playing. But Amirul let the ball through and suddenly Safiq ran trough to catch the ball that he himself passed...only that he ran out of space and maybe the soft pitch stoped him from delivering a free cross... in safee's second goal, it only involves 1 play where Safee was in of side position....luckily it was too tight to call in real time for the linesman... If this is a way to evens up the wrong offside call on Safee's 1 on1 against Indonesia, i'd take it in a heartbeat thanks bro, could not said it better myself. actually, i did already tried to explain earlier but my explanation kind of sucks to the max...hahahahah Added on December 18, 2010, 7:38 pmanybody has good stream link do share here ya. terima kaseh Added on December 18, 2010, 7:40 pmoh, found it already. HERE This post has been edited by toshio14: Dec 18 2010, 07:41 PM
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toshio14	Dec 18 2010, 07:56 PM Return to original view \| Post #19
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(firslash88 @ Dec 18 2010, 07:41 PM) Please give me link to watch the match.. please..... do see my post above you
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toshio14	Dec 19 2010, 12:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #20
Enthusiast Senior Member 704 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(nakata101 @ Dec 19 2010, 12:48 PM) Pangil lah FAM invest duit kat passing... dude, seriously what is your problem with FAM? i do not have any problem with you having problem with FAM. but almost every single of your post in here contained your snide remarks to FAM i find it very not helping the topic. so if you are not going to say what is your problem with FAM a.k.a. keeping it to yourself, your might as well keep your snide remarks to yourself also. do contribute to the topic in a way that can be useful to the topic
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