I see so many Korean Warrior, die die protect Forte, here until I tempted to test drive Forte again to day...

I feel the same conclusion: I DIDN'T choose Forte is good option!

1. As Jalan54 say, it is not CVT. Gear and engine is the most frequent item used for driving a car. So, it is very important, not all those gadgets
2. It is too much of gadgets, it can be useful rarely use, but it will contribute to pain when maintain it. Especially, korean electronic item that have not lasting. I wonder how much need to spend to replace it few years down the road.
3. Non of the SA can convince me on the resale value. Only say "You see so many Forte on the road, so resale value will higher". But, I answer "once upon a time ago, I see a lot of Sonata on the road too, but the resale value like hell", then they just smile and keep quiet. Some say second hand value not important, but this will contribute how much you can pay for next car. I don't want next few years when selling the car, I still need to fork out pocket money to pay to bank to clear the loan.
4. PPl always comment Plastic interior, what wrong with the plastic? It is just kind of interior design that you like or don't like it.

my opinion.... i really hate the forte

i know 2 ppl trying to sell it off already

From my point of view, resale value is greatly depend to market drive. Just like the 2 brand H and T, even the quality dropped by >50% compare to older models, but still got people stupid enough keep on buying them. So as for Kia/Naza Forte, it is a sad case for them, of not much people wants them, despite all the good review from other countries.
Regardless of CVT or not, it is not important. More important is the cost for changing/repairing it. We know that CVT are quite expensive when need to change them. Like the C are a good example, now touch rm27000......
Now car manufacturers build the parts that won't last long. Just only Kia? Suggest go to third party workshops especially air cond. Then you will see what's the most failure rates.... N, T, H is the common brand I can see now after the P1 and P2....
Like my friend's Grandis, he bought it recond from Japan few years back(when MMM not yet bring then in). His orignal battery lasted him for 4 years and he changed it because he worry the battery can fail anytime... After he changed to local brands, it can last him 1 year+....

And, the SA that selling cars, most of the time they don't knows the car's tech specs in details....

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Added on January 23, 2011, 9:34 amBut they maybe safer than Inspira.. Power wise, it up to our right leg.... Still want more power, Inspira would be better as it is built for that(in some sense)....

This post has been edited by kyheng: Jan 23 2011, 09:34 AM

No matter how good the review or award outside , malaysian market is special because of our tax structure,and resale value because our cars here is very expensive that we need to think so hard to buy a car so that we can change them a few years after that easily, after find out my friend buy 06 spectra for only 24k...must think before or need to pakai 9years before changing new

Well, Spectra are quite good, at least my friend still driving it... After change his exhaust... Cannot get good review in Malaysia means nothing, is just because Malaysian see the branding look rather than quality... When Malaysians starts to go for quality, Korean cars will shine....

why not city or vios for this price range? i found that buying proton car for over 60k is kind waste of money

buying proton over 60k kinda waste but look on the bright side, this is Lancer, CKD lancer @ attractive price. quality wise more or less same with CKD civic and CKD city made in melaka
perhaps CKD lancer's quality not as good as CKD Merc or CKD BMW, but all these cars still assemble by Malaysians

one again, i think ur lost here..

other countries have very different specs that what we get... US and europe are getting 2.0 and 2.4 engines... not 1.6

even the US warranty is more than what we are getting...

kia is a good brand, a good car... but they are not distributed by them... they go via Naza and Naza was never known for their after sales service... buying a car is not a one off thing unless you plan to maintain the car yourself, everything DIY... even parts you need to depend on them...

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Added on January 23, 2011, 10:47 ammalaysian CKD quality sucks... regardless what car you buy...

swift CKD - steering rack and alignment problem
City VTEC CKD (i own one) - annoying whistling sound when driving at 120km/h... why? windscreen masuk angin...
C200 Kompressor (relative's car) - driver side passenger side window masuk angin, noticeable at 110km/h, becomes annoying at 140km/h

malaysians car factories don't seem to have the passion in their job... assemble then pakai assemble... didn't check the quality...

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Jan 23 2011, 10:47 AM

regarding swift CKD, i owned it for the past 2 years. so far dont have the problem as you mentioned yet ..touch wood

anyway, agree with most of your statement, thats why i reply to that guy, buying CKD lancer inspira still worth and better than buying CKD civic and city

This post has been edited by squall_kay: Jan 23 2011, 10:55 AM

swift is a nice car... still part of my consideration

i think most of the car in the market is using plastic dashboard Toyota,honda, even lancer

can you define plastics and at which parts

or is forte dashboard made from Full lether?

or u are thinking that all plastics parts should change to WOOD or STEEL?

BMW F10 got problem maa... the best part "BMW ASK THEM TO STOP COMPLAIN & POSTED IN WEB" daa.... when Lexus has recall issued, they talk until today.. when happen to them, the car have reliability issued.. they ask you keep quite.

1) Loud ''bang'' on the suspension
2) Funny ''squeaky'' noise when on uneven road
3) Something not assembled properly in the taillights
4) Car pulling to the left/right, not stable >120kmh

Until today no solution yet, some owner just paid installment every month but the car park in SC more than 4 month...

This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Jan 23 2011, 01:02 PM

CKD cars arent worth it
nuff said
even those assembled in thai and filipina or indon are better

This post has been edited by gtoforce: Jan 23 2011, 01:24 PM

If I not mistaken Toyota assembled in Thailand but heard a lot of complain as well.

well ~
I choose INSPIRA because the engine and the car's outlook is great.

But Forte outlook also great but ... 1.6cc price = Inspira 1.8cc price...

Spare part also should be account also for comparison coz every car got wear & tear after 2-3 years on the road.

Spare parts also determine resale value

What an another blind basher (perhaps Forte fans).. Firstly, do u own a T/H brand car yourself? If not, you have no proofs/rights/qualified to CLAIM that their quality has dropped >50%. Don't tell us you HEARD/READ from somewhere some one else. So where the heck you got this information? Show here pls. Even scolding people stxpid enough to buy T/H brand cars. Well, I guess you are just a fella who eating sour grapes and couldn't afford a T/H brand car so you are making some funny noise here. And, this even show you are more stxpid.

How arrogant you are saying that most of the time SA don't know about the cars' tech spec, so how well you know about it then?

I'm commenting as I own Korea, Jap and P1/P2 cars. I know each well. For the Korea car, I can say previous models are all sucks for the second hand value. but, Forte is another case. Perhaps, we are too early to judge him as it just launched merely near to 2 years and it really a good car compare to previous korea cars!

Resale value for proton is more worrisome. Just look at waja and wira. My friend's 70k waja, year 2003 worth 20k now. The T and the H badge worth 40k+ for the same manufacturing year. The korean make has improved so much. They could sell at a lower price than the japs make. Proton? rebadge a japs car and continue to stumble and cover lotus's loss? Btw, between forte and inspira, i'll buy forte.