Cerato 2.0 6 speed also facing the same ?? I've test driven it, better than Inspira 2.0P which I've also tested driven

Put it bluntly: forte is a good attempt to make a good car, but falls short of making the mark. Korean cars are simply not there yet. Get an honest chap who owns a Forte (i.e: non forum lurking "FORTE IZ D BEZ OMG" owner of a Forte) and they will tell you of the sub-par engine, sub-par suspension system and simply sub-par experience overall after a while. It's all well and good testing the car a few times and feeling that it is great. But owning it after a while, the experience simply fizzles - the Koreans simply don't put in the soul in the car. It's not in their culture to understand 'soul' and 'passion' in a car (MY OPINION ONLY).

Proton... well is a Proton. Don't let the Mitsu reputation precede the badge's reputation. You buy the car because it is cheap, and good value but don't expect 'magic'. And no, Lotus handling doesn't mean it's better than the Japs. It just means it's not longer Sh*t. But, Proton does have a much better aftermarket support, which gives it an edge. Therefore it gets my vote.

both car has same engine...block

Your opinion is not worth anything if you're not the owner of Forte. Furthermore, Korean car are injected with Euro soul.
Its better than Japan soul. So Forte is definitely better than Inspira.

MY OPINION ONLY.

^Well, if the Japs have souls, they won't let third world countries to assemble their cars....
If Japs have soul, they won't let Proton to rebadge Lancer.....
Now the Japs are more interested on how many cars sold every month, where quality come last....
But this does not means that Inspira are not good... Just that have to give Proton another 5-10 years to come out a lesser problem Inspira....

Hello keyboard warrior. Everyone's opinion is worth something. Mechanics know more about cars albeit not owning most of them all their lives. Their opinion worth nothing to you?

Maybe you should learn some restraint in unleashing your confrontational attitude before throwing assumptions around thinking your many stars are worth their salt in putting other people down.

Everyone have different opinion when driving car. Some like German marque. Other
likes Japan car.

For all I know, your mechanic might like Japan car. So who is confrontational now?
Of course its you because I already said its my opinion only. I did not say you're wrong.

Friend, taking up third world countries to produce your cars would be utilising the economies of scale. By soul, I mean the thought they put into designing the car, the technology, philosophy, etc. The Koreans are simply not on the same page (though not necessarily inferior or superior in any ways between the two). Like I said, my opinion. I just find their cars lacklustre in thought and emphasis on driving experience as opposed to a pretty shell and packed full of goody gizmos. But hey, more value for money in some ways, to each is own. TS will decide him ultimately.

I don't necessarily disagree with you on the second point, but it doesn't mean that the Koreans are any better, if not worse (i implore you to drive the much touted as the CoTY, Hyundai Sonata and you would probably understand where I am coming from).

I also agree that Inspira may not be a terrible car. I think they go around the corners pretty well. I'm merely cautioning against buying too much into the Lotus handling selling point.

Already said Japan soul is inferior to Korea car soul because Korean car
is design by Peter Schreyer. Peter Schreyer is an automobile designer, widely known for his design contributions to the Audi TT and as the Chief Design Officer at Kia Motors.

That's why Korean car is better than Japan car now. Your mechanic or you as mechanic
are giving bias opinion since you or he has never own a Forte before.

I smell some restraint in your opinion this time around. Good to see you're learning quick.

Agreed. I've driven and owned quite a few cars. Korean. Japs. Germans. Forte for example, was a car that I really had high expectations on. I didn't own it, but I did my research, driven around in one a number of times, and fail to find that 'euro' selling point. Packing a car with gizmos and foregoing engineering innovation, for example, is not a 'euro' trait. Underpowering a car isn't as well. European cars are known to be torquey - that's certainly missing in the forte, even the 2.0.

Anyway I digress, internet.

I believe current 6 gear will be torquer due to lower gear at lower rpm. Probably
you should go and try again.

Haha... its just internet bro... dun worry about disagreeing...from disagreeing, more
info will come out

In europe, Fortes are powered in 2.4L engines...so there is much more different than current 1.6 and 2.0L engines...

Well, it is more on cost cutting and using cheaper materials.... We are actually buying sub-standard cars with premium price. A fact that can't be denied... But then people still die hard to say such sub standard cars are good.....

Hahahahahahaha,someone said Forte has European SOUL? LOL!

Biggest joke of the century!

PLs i test drove Forte 1.6 countless times.In terms of gadgets ,yes its got plenty.In terms of driving experience,it TOTALLY FAILED! Its not even close to Proton.Proton drives so much better.Mind you,I hate Proton so much.But Proton driving experience is way better than KIA.

Inspira doesnt have the gadgets but the engine is phenomenal and the gearbox is so damn freaking smooth! The suspension is amazing,it absorbs all road irregularities like nobodys business.

If I had to pick a Proton or a Kia this time,I would 100% pic Proton Inspira simply because it drives amazingly and has pure Jap soul inside of it.

The Kia has the looks and gadgets,but drives with the soul of a 20 year old Korean car.Its just not there yet.Its not even close to any Jap make let alone European make.

I know,all the usual suspects like XionCity will come to protect his beloved Forte.I am bored of that,can you just accept the fact about ur car?!

You drove a 4 speed Forte.

Currently 6 speed Forte gearbox is so smooth that it is better than CVT and make a statement that says, why need CVT if
got 6 speed GB.

Forte do have Audi soul since the designer are previous Audi designer. So its better than Japan soul. As a matter of fact, Japan
car has no soul ever since they become top car manufacturer. They lost their soul until their car cannot break and causing death.

Jap soul in Proton Inspira? hahaha...

CVT dont have shift shock, hence the smoothness

This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 5 2011, 10:44 PM

CVT no soul.

come on boy, u just said that 6 speed autobox is smoother than a CVT, and i replied that CVT doesnt have any shift shock and your reply was no soul?

Do you have any soul for discussion, hypocrite?

Well, smoother for me must have soul. I probably need to add smoother with soul than CVT...

Conclusion:
Inspira CVT no soul thus lost to Forte 6 gear GB...

So who's hypocrite now? Please ask properly before calling others hypocrite.

i did not say anything about soul, i am stating the obvious difference between CVT and conventional slushbox.

which ever wins or loses makes no difference. do u grow taller if i say that 6GB wins due to the SOUL factor?

Well, then it is better.