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chiahau
post Dec 7 2010, 12:11 AM

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Do you think I should get a 3rd party batt for my A580 or just get a BG?

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post Dec 7 2010, 12:14 AM

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mr.Wang: are those yours? if so, u memang encik WANG. hahaha..

chiahau: just get a BG... happy.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 7 2010, 12:11 AM)
Do you think I should get a 3rd party batt for my A580 or just get a BG?

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wow, the battery life of a580 not enough for you for one day shooting?
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 7 2010, 12:11 AM)
Do you think I should get a 3rd party batt for my A580 or just get a BG?

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do you WANT or do you NEED...??? smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Dec 7 2010, 12:15 AM)
wow, the battery life of a580 not enough for you for one day shooting?
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Tak.

Live View eats a bit more batt than usual and I shoot from morning to night de.

Just now test fire my A580.
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:20 AM

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wts kah Mr. Wang? laugh.gif

anyway, one more spam for the night:

Noi @ Kokol Hill.
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A850 & SAL85F14Z. 1/640s, F4.0, ISO200. Gold reflector used to illuminate the model. Photo shot in cRAW and processed in Capture One & CS4.

The power of Zeiss *hehehe*.....
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 7 2010, 12:19 AM)
Tak.

Live View eats a bit more batt than usual and I shoot from morning to night de.

Just now test fire my A580.
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how many charging cycle has the batt gone through?
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Dec 7 2010, 12:25 AM)
how many charging cycle has the batt gone through?
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Virgin battery lol..

I guess I prefer a spare batt just in case la. Who knows what can happen right?
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post Dec 7 2010, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 7 2010, 12:49 AM)
Virgin battery lol..

I guess I prefer a spare batt just in case la. Who knows what can happen right?
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ooo..virgin battery usually won't last long
but after a few charging cycle, it will have a longer batt life (sort of like warming up)
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post Dec 7 2010, 01:54 AM

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shootkk: Wah nice and close and personal with #3!

Mr.Wang: Big welcome to you sir! Very good lineup choice too, forgoing the 70-200mm F2.8 for a lighter 135mm F1.8 and a long-range 70-400mm.

kysham: Nice light! Welcome back dude!


Added on December 7, 2010, 3:55 amAnd now for prime time - the one lens I intended to buy in 2010!

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Meet the Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA.

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It's a lightweight companion to the A900, perfect for street shooting.

Well, okay, maybe the Sony NEX-5 with Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake is better... I have to admit, I am a lot more comfortable doing thorough street photography with it. I have to get back in tune with street photography using much more noticeable cameras.

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Here it is, on the Sony SLT-A55. Because its SSM in-lens focusing motor is silent, it makes for great normal video in low light.

So what is the point of it being just F2.0 when Canon and Nikon have 24mm F1.4 lenses?

Optical quality. Zeiss makes very little compromise on contrast and detail. The lens is already great wide open - stopping down just increases depth of field. The lens is not less contrasty wide open, like my Minolta 50mm F1.4!

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Oh, and of course, one very cool thing - being a F2.0 design, it is much more affordable compared to the Canon/Nikon counterparts, and it can focus a lot closer.

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This is 19cm away from the sensor! (Shot with the SLT-A55, as per the setup above.)

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This is pretty darn close, too. Note that it is a wide-angle macro!

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It is nicely paired with the SLT-A55 because it gives the angle of view of 36mm on full-frame - which is the same as your phone's camera angle of view! This makes it a very handy focal length.

I know, I used to say I hated this focal length because it was so common, but it is indeed practical.

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Anyway, here are some other primes I saw at Sony Style KLCC.

From left to right: Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA, Opteka 85mm F1.4, Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM, Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM, Minolta 50mm F1.4 (Original), Sony LA-EA1 A-mount to E-mount adapter.

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This is the Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM on the A55. Very, very nice focal length, and very detailed wide open. This lens made a far better impression than the online samples I've seen of plain stuffed toys and doorknobs and bottles and batteries that people have been using this lens to take pictures of!

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Meanwhile, here is the A900 with the Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM. Pretty portraity, I'd say, while retaining that detail.

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post Dec 7 2010, 03:56 AM

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What about the Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM on full-frame? I pressed the lens release button on the A900 to disable the lens checking, so it would not automatically switch to APS-C mode. When focused at infinity, you can see vignetting.

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So I went home and took a family picture.

Left to right, back row: Minolta 50mm F1.4 (Original), Sigma 70-210mm F4-5.6, Minolta 70-210mm F4 "beercan", Cosina 70-210mm F2.8-4 1:2.5x Macro, Opteka 85mm F1.4, Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA, Tamron 200-400mm F5.6.

Left to right, middle row: Peleng 8mm F3.5 circular fisheye in M42 mount with A-mount adapter, Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG, Sigma 17-35mm F2.8-4 EX, Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT (gear-stripped and disassembled donation to science), Vivitar 24mm F2.0 adapted to A-mount, Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA, Minolta 24-50mm F4 (Original), Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D).

Left to right, front row: Sony LA-EA1 A-mount to E-mount lens adapter, Teleplus MC4 1.5x teleconverter, Teleplus MC4 2.0x teleconverter.

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And now, just the primes.

Left to right, back row: Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA, Opteka 85mm F1.4, Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA.

Left to right, middle row: Peleng 8mm F3.5 circular fisheye in M42 mount with A-mount adapter, Minolta 50mm F1.4 (Original), Vivitar 24mm F2.0 adapted to A-mount.

Left to right, front row: Sony LA-EA1 A-mount to E-mount lens adapter, Teleplus MC4 1.5x teleconverter, Teleplus MC4 2.0x teleconverter.

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Moving on...

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Yes I did take pictures. The close focus really helped with this shot.

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It also makes a cool toy-shooting lens.

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Of course, I did go out with this lens...

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Here's geekster! The lens goes much closer but I'll leave those shots out.

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And so I went to the Kuala Lumpur International Motor Show 2010 at Putra World Trade Center.


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post Dec 7 2010, 03:57 AM

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Shot with the A55 and Zeiss 24mm F2.0. Great for the grab shot.

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Shot with the A900 and Zeiss 24mm F2.0. All shots from this one onwards were with this combo, at F2.0.

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I love how this lens makes you get close, and they pose differently as a result.

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It's like they know - aha! Portrait orientation! Turn to the side!

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She didn't get that memo, but it's okay, because she looks good.

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You do get an exaggerated perspective sometimes. DxO Optics Pro had not come out with the Zeiss 24mm F2.0 lens correction module yet unfortunately (though, I can't spot barrel distortion, if any, to be honest.)

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And that is all for today.

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Alright, maybe a 50% crop. (100% crop, resized down to 50%.)
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post Dec 7 2010, 05:20 AM

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seriously guys, do u believe in EVF or prefer stick with OVF?

it seems SLT is the future of sony...

personally i prefer OVF all the time


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post Dec 7 2010, 08:52 AM

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@albnok. The lens is pretty wwwwwiiiidddeeee.. it almost touches my nose. But looks wide. tongue.gif

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post Dec 7 2010, 08:58 AM

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is EVF improving.. or very clear why not since can direct see the expected output..
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post Dec 7 2010, 09:15 AM

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albnok : nice simple review. indeed Zeiss is GOOD biggrin.gif , eyh ur sal1870 looks abit pelik blush.gif

Mr.Wang : one BIG happy family rclxms.gif

QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 7 2010, 12:19 AM)
Tak.

Live View eats a bit more batt than usual and I shoot from morning to night de.

Just now test fire my A580.
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im using a33 and 90% of the time use live view as it is the bigger EVF and last time can shoot 500+ pics + lots video leh, still have 20% battery left. also did playback the pictures and video, use pop-up flash. non-SLT/NEX shouldnt worry much, but extra battery i'd say is a must nod.gif


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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 7 2010, 08:58 AM)
is EVF improving.. or very clear why not since can direct see the expected output..
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i dunno about this but sometimes in some condition the output is abit different. probably the camera tends to compensate the brightness of the EVF/live view. the output sometimes brighter , not to say overexposed but not as what i want sad.gif

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post Dec 7 2010, 09:31 AM

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If A77 is SLT, then no worries, Sony might improve their EVF lol.

Furthermore, with the market's trend now, more inclined to A55, I think sony might scrape OVF production.

Or perhaps a DSLT with OVF lol.


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Hi all, im new to DSLR world and i bought A550 to be my 1st camera.
i wonder any1 using 50mm F1.8 lense here? how much is it? by comparing with the F1.4 lense, how can i see the diff? (since the price diff so much, and sry abt the lack knowledge of the Focal... ==) is there any sample photo?
thanks^^
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post Dec 7 2010, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Dec 7 2010, 09:31 AM)
If A77 is SLT, then no worries, Sony might improve their EVF lol.

Furthermore, with the market's trend now, more inclined to A55, I think sony might scrape OVF production.

Or perhaps a DSLT with OVF lol.
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perhaps if possile they put both EVF and OVF or id they want more $$ , external OVF laugh.gif

QUOTE(nevermine @ Dec 7 2010, 09:40 AM)
Hi all, im new to DSLR world and i bought A550 to be my 1st camera.
i wonder any1 using 50mm F1.8 lense here? how much is it? by comparing with the F1.4 lense, how can i see the diff? (since the price diff so much, and sry abt the lack knowledge of the Focal...  ==) is there any sample photo?
thanks^^
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not much different if u dont plan to upgrade for fullframe cameras.

50mm f1.4
-sharp even at aperture f1.4.
-better bokeh (blur blur effect)
-better built (body structure)
-comes with hood
-full frame lens
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SAL 50mm f1.8 SAM
-not a fullframe lens
-SAM lens (can autofocus with NEX with adapter)
-shorter minimum focusing distance (iinm)
-cheaper
-abit noisy AF
-sharp output at f2.5
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post Dec 7 2010, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(nevermine @ Dec 7 2010, 09:40 AM)
Hi all, im new to DSLR world and i bought A550 to be my 1st camera.
i wonder any1 using 50mm F1.8 lense here? how much is it? by comparing with the F1.4 lense, how can i see the diff? (since the price diff so much, and sry abt the lack knowledge of the Focal...  ==) is there any sample photo?
thanks^^
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50mm f1.8 new one around 4xx, maybe 3xx also.
It produces decent bokeh and quality for its price la lol.
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