Yeah i agree on Apple and Linux is like oil and water
But i feel for me in terms of memory distribution and usage is more efficient compared to Windows
that's what i feel..
but pricey.. i got my macbook pro free.. so why not ^^
But Linux is full of unexplored potential, something which i like..

" The OTG cable has a micro-A plug on one side, and a micro-B plug on the other (it cannot have two plugs of the same type). OTG adds a fifth pin to the standard USB connector, called the ID-pin; the micro-A plug has the ID pin grounded, while the ID in the micro-B plug is floating. The device that has a micro-A plugged in becomes an OTG A-device, and the one that has micro-B plugged becomes a B-device. The type of the plug inserted is detected by the state of the pin ID . " - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go

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Added on November 12, 2010, 9:40 pmUSB OTG - limited to storage only ?? or more ?

USB host - has more potential, storage and peripherals.

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Added on November 12, 2010, 9:47 pm" USB On-The-Go

The USB port on the tablets is a USB OTG, this means that they can be switched between client- (where you plug the tablet into a computer—for flashing and mounting cards on the computer), and host- (where the tablet acts like a computer) mode with the correct hardware adaptor.

You can find a USB OTG adapter designed specifically for the N800 and the N810 (N810 owners will need to buy both adaptors until a custom N810 adaptor is manufactured). These OTG adaptors will automatically switch the tablet into host-mode when plugged in.

You can also buy a "dumb" adapter that will provide the correct connections, but will not automatically switch the tablet into host-mode from most online and some in-store retailers. Then you can simply switch into host-mode manually. "



in N800/N810

switching modes manually.

echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode

echo otg > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode


- so the conclusion is, the funny looking microAB connector just facilitates auto switching from client mode to otg when connected.

- using normal cable you have to switch manually to OTG mode


taken from - http://wiki.maemo.org/USB_host_mode

This post has been edited by jananan: Nov 12 2010, 09:48 PM

About Micro A & B being similar, yes they are, but it's pertinent to note they are NOT the same. Even on the N810 with hardware enabled OTG, the Micro A cable is more reliable for USB host purposes.

Ugh, for some unknown reason I suddenly feel that using an N9 is gonna feel like using the N810 with it's huge screen and gila tiring keyboard. The N900 QWERTY is MILES better to type on.

@Jananan: supposedly, but there are many cases of the B cable not working and not detecting the attached USB device, even after manually switching (or using software).

Am gonna get a girl-on-girl adapter anyway tho, cause china mali cheap N8 OTG wires are still quite some time away, and A head cables maybe Sri don't have.

ACTUALLY: OTG = Automatic switching between client mode and host mode depending on what you poke it into (or what you poke into it).

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Nov 12 2010, 10:03 PM

That's why I put similar not same

I feel N900 keyboard bit crampy.During my early days I used to make lots mistakes while typing.Now it better.
I think the extra space between the keys could have faster & more accurate typing.

i miss the qwerty keyboard on the e61i.

good sized keys, stable while typing with two hands. the n900 is somewhat unbalanced, top heavy.

was using the e61i a long time ago.

sold it to some forummer here....

It would be better if the space bar is in the middle and 4 rows of keyboard..
Using too many the blue button

Believe it or not,I actually never own any symbian device.Used plenty but never own 1.
Jumped to N900 from measly SE w580i

From my experience E6X & E7X series phone have too small keys at keyboard,something like N900.
But because of the size of the phone it's forgivable.

Anyone here pro at c/c++?

Ooo.. same like me sifu.. came from a SE w810i.. nice phone to text though.. super fast
Maybe i need sometime to get my typing speed in n900..
and c/c++ pro for?
i looking for someone to teach me also.. haha

You sure about that? I'm typing on a four row keyboard with a centre spacebar... and missing the right side spacebar on the N900 keyboard. Sigh.

Grass is alwwya greener on the other side, no?

Doesn't help that they N810 keyboard is mushy.

Hit a brick wall with my programming tutorial since yesterday.
Now ok already.Suddenly hit a eureka moment & my program working perfectly now.

I still prefers N900's keyboard.It's very similar to regular desktop computer keyboard key structure plus the spacebar at right side is good for fast typing & don't mess when typing with two hand.

weee using shh syiok..now already customized my apps into folders.
hard work!

The whole idea is use the nice MicroUSB to female usb rather than using a female to female adapter.... so if file it to size wonder it will work.. but then again.. i notice in our microUSB only got 4 connectors... so it doesnt have the 5th connector unless i am wrong...

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Added on November 12, 2010, 11:13 pmhmmm i checked... got 5 wor.. so which means is still usable...... just have to cut to size... if you can wait.. droid x also have OTG... so may be able to use it... i believe its the same size... not squre...

This post has been edited by firstknight: Nov 12 2010, 11:13 PM

Nope.It got 5 pins alright.

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Added on November 12, 2010, 11:15 pmNowdays even chapalang Nokia phone also comes with OTG.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Nov 12 2010, 11:15 PM

N900 doesnt comes with OTG. does it means N900 < chapalang nokia phone? LOL.

HELP all Sifu

my phone there comes picture of linux penquin and text:

U-Boot 2010.06-matan (nov 10 2010 - 13:53:03)

Getting NOLO supplied boot parameters...
Die ID #"some numbers here"
Extra commands:
run sercon - Use serial port for control.
run usbcon - Use usbtty for control.
run vgacon - use framebuffer/keyboard
run mmcboot - boot from sd card slot.
run noloboot - boot kernel loaded by nolo
hit any key to stop autoboot: 0
No MMC card found
Booting Nolo supplied kernel...
## booting kernel from legacy image at 80541130
image name: kernel-power
image type: arm linux kernel image (uncompressed)
data size: 1,7mib
load address: 80008000
Entry point: 80008000
verifying cheksum.... ok
loading kernel image...ok
ok
using existing atags at 0x80000100

starting kernel....

and after that nothing happens. i can see that text but thats it ??
I not able to enter flash mode as well

Help and many thanks

Some may think this way

Bricked kernel...

Download the PR 1.3 file - RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Info on how you can get it is available at frontpage.
Rename the file to R.bin & transfer the files to C:\Program Files\Maemo\flasher-3.5
Turn off you phone
Press "U" while plugging the microUSB cable to your phone
Open maemo flasher tool & execute the following command



Your phone should be booting up in less than 10sec.

my problem happen that my friend tried to overclock my n900 (for me) den after install roost , kernel for power user , kernel for power user setting, den in terminal soda gain, den camera not working...

afterward he try to install kernal for power user setting, after uninstall, and restart it appear like this

Follow my method.
It should restore your phone to the default omap kernel.
After booting up you can go to app manager/fapman to download v42(the most stable up to date).make sure you disable extra-devel or else you'll download v45 instead.

thanks sifu.. trying now

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Added on November 13, 2010, 12:09 amSifu... thanks thanks and many thanks.. it work.. thx you so much... 1000words deep from heart.. thanks..

This post has been edited by Joecork: Nov 13 2010, 12:09 AM

master alien, wanna ask.. r u still using ideal running on 900Mhz ?