Alright musicians, got your own tracks & want to show em off??? Just post them here. Need help on anything related to recording? this is the right place to be!

Let start this thing off, what soundcard are you guys using?

I'm using Audigy 2 ZS, not the perfect soundcard for recording tho. Kills part of your tone imho.



This post has been edited by led_zep_freak: May 31 2005, 01:52 PM

so what is a good beginner soundcard, something for single input recording? is the audigy 2 can do for this purpose? what about the audigy?

how about recording ideas/riff when u r away from your pc/laptop? maybe a digital sound recorder? im thinkin of gettin one of those creative mp3 players with recording functions?

This post has been edited by kimi: May 31 2005, 12:40 PM

ah fk....
i thought you were posting an article on home recording

Oh lol... I do have this Computer Music Guitarist Special issue, mostly stuff you already know tho'. Sorry for the misleading title, I'ill rename it.

The audigy's good for playback/gaming but definitely not the ideal soundcard for recording. I would consider E-MU or M-Audio if I were you.

If you only need to record a single input, the audigy 2 or any other modern soundcard for that matter would suffice...the actual quality of the analogue-digital conversion would be subjective to anyone.
What I think is that the quality of the input sources that is more important. Try as hard as you may, but a RM10,000 PRS guitar would definitely sound better than a RM800 Strat copy.

I find that MP3 players with the line-in function are great tools for musicians, especially instrumentalists...gone are the days when you would crack your head trying to remember that fantastic riff you made up the other day...BUT if you plan to record an electric guitar straight into an MP3 player's input, you have to be aware that the line-in of the MP3 player is suited for only low impendance line-level inputs (i.e. keyboards, dynamic mics). If you plug your guitar straight in, there would be slight distortion on the recording as the guitar's output is high-impendance. You can use a DI box to solve this. But hey, if its only riffs you want to record, who cares about a little distortion =)

Have fun!

but u wont be carrying your DIbox tgt with ure mp3 player right?
soundcards are just too expensive imo.... im not willing to fork out 6-800 on a good rocording soundcard
much rather get some recorder that can connect through USB...

yeah i was thinking in the line that the mp3 player with mic recording or digital sound recorder to capture a melody, riff or anything in its raw form, maybe vocal hum as well

as for recording on PC, what would be a good beginner hardware setup? maybe usb or firewire not to clutter the inside of pc, plus can use on different pc or laptop?

yes, you can buy a *ahem* software in a famous plaza that simulates a guitar amp --> you'll have your good guitar sound from your PC

then buy another *ahem* software to record (audacity, cakewalk, sonar, guitartracks, etc etc...)

oh shit.... Pix got the msian "piracy fever"

i'm one of you now !!

saya pun, saya boleh !

ROFL!!
Forget piracy man, police are raiding like hell these few months & the prices probably went sky high.

*ahem* Bittorent!

i think piracy will always be part of msia...
if not those ehbengs will lose their jobs and go amok

They could still modify cars for other Ah Bengs.

And of course, if worse comes to worst, there's still Weng Kin. Heard he went back to form6, is it true?

This post has been edited by led_zep_freak: May 31 2005, 04:32 PM

weng kin not ahbeng la
yea he went back to form 6.... no point doing SAMwhen ure still unclear which path u wanna take
u know la the fella.... blur blur wan

lol it's not that lar, we used to ask him what he was gonna do after SPM & he kept answering "Sell VCDlar". One of my classmates almost bought his story.

lol
why am i not surprise

U can use normal (recent) soundcard
with line-in support

use Audio jack converter (big to small) to connect your jack from your amp / effect to PC

my recording hardware n software

instrument - guitar
soundcard - gametheater XP
drum/bass tracks - fruityloops producer
mixing - adobe audition (used to be cooledit pro)

sounds ok-ok la

modd > fruity loops has this bass synthetizer ? woaaww.. cool...

anybody knows a "plug-in" or a software that modify the sound of the guitar to be like a bass ?

Pix: you can use any plugin with a pitch-shifting feature. just set it to shift down 1 octave... but i've never got satisfactory bass sound from that. yep, fruityloops has got a cool bass plugin. when i get home, i can direct you to which plugins in fruityloops you can use to generate realistic bass guitar sounds.

how abt a minidisc player for recording?
a lot of musicians prefer to use md players for recording their compositions.

is the quality good if u connect say a elec guitar directly to the line in?

sorry o/t...are u moses from throne away?

He's Moses from MoodSwings

I'm using n-Track Studio 4 for multi-track recording. Switched to Cakewalk Sonar 4 but i'm having a problem with the MIDI output. When i chose the MIDI Mapper as the output, Cakewalk doesn't seem to acknowledge and doesn't respond. Any idea why this happens? MIDI output from Guitar Pro 4 is just fine btw.

In SONAR 4, if you like to hear your MIDI sound out, than you should choose


Options- MIDI Devices -outpus -Miscrosoft GS Wavetable SW Synth.

with this you should able to hear the MIDI sound

Anyone try to record 32 channel?

This EIS MaXiO 032 can do the job.
24-bit/192kHz Audio/MIDI inteface with 4 ADAT I/O ports ( 32 channel I/O)

hi all...
here's some guide for computer music h/w and s/w:

Best Sequencers:
Ableton Live 4
Apple Logic Pro 7
Cakewalk Sonar 4 Producer
Steinberg Cubase SX 3
Samplitude V 7.2
Motu digital Performer 4.1
Making Waves
Steinberg Nuendo

Best 3 Software Studios
Propellerhead Reason 3.0
FL Studio 5 XXL
Cakewalk Project 5

3 Great DSP Solution (H/w)
UAD 1 Project
TC Powercore Compact
Creamware Scope Project

Laptop Interface
Tascam US122
M-Audio Firewire 410
Echo Indigo

Desktop Interface
Digidesign Digi 002
MOTU 828 MK2
RME HDSP 9632
Terratec Phase 88
M-Audio Delta 1010
E-MU 1820M

Best Guitar FX
Vox Tonelab
NI Guitar Rig
Addrenalinn 2
Line 6 Guitarport
MXR Auto Q
Electro-Harmonix Pulsar
Boss GS-10
Line 6 Tonebox Tap Tremolo
Digitech RPX400
Electro-Harmonix Double Muff

*Tested and reviewed in Future Music Magz.
*Best viewed before June 2005. There r loads of item coming for the past 3 months but yet not been reviewed. So i just scratch em' from my list.

Great list! Thanks for sharing!

def_lok,

you seems to know a lot about recording. care to share with us your masterpiece

hi there,
masterpiece... still under progress...
anyway i started recording+sampling+mixing as a hobby, until now it's still a hobby to me. i'm still learning informally (forums+tutorials+fwens+u guys).. i hope can gain knowledge from this forum.tq

hi all,
anyone can tell me how's ur setup for a recording session? any tips+tricks maybe?

I taught u're pro at recording ?

hi all,
well, for me there is no certain parameter for beginner, a pro or whatever the title is...recording itself is a learning process, it depends on technics, logical analysis vs. imagination, awareness, etc...in other word, there is no particular formula for recording...it's up to us, how we see things, perception...and to make that happen, we use guidance from fwens, audiences, critics, the best is ur competitors...just to achieve "better than yesterday" feeling. peace...

yea i agree.... no such thing as good enough... no such thing as enough

currently using:
EMU0404
Adobe Audition
Guitar Rig
Amplitube

Finally able to record with guitar rig.... jeez all taht trouble with cubase...
adobe audition is idiot proof...lol

thanx...
my setup:
emu 1212m (still can't get enuff)
cubase 1.05 (amplitube inside yey)
reason 3.0 (rewired)

problem is i can't record wit 96KHz, but can mix at that rate (any idea)...sad huh..
ni guitar rig?is ur's bundled wit foot switch?heard the demo tho...u can get rare sound wit it, cooooolll...but sure i'ts complicated to set...amplitube is hot..hot..hot... that's a must when guitars involved...
i assume u plug ur guitar trough guitar rig then emu, so how's the signal (bright, muddy) within ur adobe with fx bypassed?cos mine has to use di box or mixer or v-amp to get brighter input...(tried the compressor in emu's dsp, but still not satisfied)...this emu sure get me "pening"rather than m-audios.

for me guitar>amp>soundcard

i cant get a good clean tone outof it without having to use amplitube or guitar rig.... it distorts at any volumn...

i dont have the footswitch for guuitar rig.... use it as vts plugin for adobe audition

guess we have the same problem then...
still have to use mixer/di box/v-amp...well i borrowed em' from fwens, so quite a problem if i need more quality time wit recording, buying is the last thing for the moment, budget wise..hehe

here' the sample for myguitar,recorded wit squire+bv-amp(compress mode) trough emu...still i cant the best out of it...

That's actually a sweet guitar tone, very warm even after compression. Nice rhythm playing too!!! Keep it up!

it seems that E-MU is the right way to go eh...

anway , visit www.midstreamonline.com for more recording equipments...

mail me at jason@midstreamonline.com for our latest newsletter and brochure and pricing and soon on...

come visit me la if you guys free... then i'll show you stuff that my company sell... alot of audio stuff...

so, u jason lam from midstream...
i bought emu from ur fwen la last year...malay guy, forgot his name...
btw why the 96KHz recording is such a pain to me...the sound will go off or if lucky i will get a very weak signal...i've been looking for a remedy from others (updated to 1.8 driver), still i'ts not enuff tu cure my emu-tional...

If anyone want to know more about recording from 4in/4out upto 32in/32out, 44.1Khz upto 192kHz...and others product like MIC, pop filter, Mic stand, DIY cable and others..

Please feel free to drop by ... + get a free demo....

thanx, the rhythm is there, tone?if u listen carefully on nearfield monitor...it does really sux...for this kind of playing, i will compare it wit the one such as foo fighters's the best of u...yes they'r differ cos they use pro setup...but not really, it all depends on creativity to manipulate the setup itself...

anybody penah dengar i-band.com.there's my fren's band named frantic..they using cool edit n FL studio for recording, then they mastered the sound very nice..anybodi know how to do it, i mean mastered the recording...

dats no problems during recording, just plug the guitar with fx at the line-in, then record..i do same as they told me..but i dont know to master the sound,i mean the guitar sound to distort..

one more, can i convert the midi sound in guitar pro4 to mp3?does it need a soundcard?i got built in s.card..boleh pakai ka?

The problem with pluging your guitar directly into the line-in, you don't get any sounds from the amps, which are usually the key to your tone. Sure, you can use Amplitube, but it still doesn't beat good ol' warm tube amps.

unless you got yourself the amp modeller gadget such as behringer v-amp, line6 pod and/or roger linn adrenalinn 2... plug in your guitar straight into the line in will make your guitar sound dry. the tone can further enhanced your sound imo...

huh, nvr heard bout modeller gadget..but u know where i can find it?but i dont know how its looks like?

jack, if i connect dgn mini amps, n connect mini amps into line-in bleh x?

sori guys, i donno much bout bout guitar, since i learned all the chord, strumming,etc... by myself, nobodi teach me lorr..

hi all,
well, i used behringer v-amp right from my guitar directed to e-mu...but i think it's not the setup problem, cos i've tried it b4 wit m-box and delta 1010...but this thing call e-mu really hard to handle...i don't know why, it's just cut off my productivity, imagine sometimes i had to spend 2 hours for my e-mu b4 begin recording...

btw shiinkuro, imo, b4 u start mixing/mastering, anything u do on recording will effect overall production process itself. i always use 96KHz/24bit for my recording (else 48KHz24bit for my e-mu,been an issue for me). u'll maintain those rate while mixing just to get xtra clarity from ur mix. from then u can control fx, gain, stereo image,etc...

its waht my fren told me lor..but i'd tried witout fx/amp..bside, is it line6 pod is a brand rite? i got confused with e-mu, behringer v-amp..anybodi know where i can refer bout pc recording studio...i quite curious bout it..plzzzz

yo does anyone know how to cure the lag when using amplitube?
but im not using a creative card =/

what u all guys think about this?

i'll take a creative X-Fi card soon.......confusing about the X-Fi platinum and X-Fi xtreme music.....which one is most suitable for recording.....not only guitar...but saxophone and drum too......

besides......how u all guys do ur recording work? From the guitar to sound card throught the amp or straight away from the guitar to sound card?

thx u all....

Honestly, if you want a dedicated soundcard for recording, get the Creative Emu 0404 soundcard. That is a soundcard MADE for recording and playing back music.

But if you want to get something of an all rounder, then get the X-fi platinum. Much better inputs for recording.

you should download ASIO drivers for your soundcard, whichever brand it is. I can't tell you exactly how it works, but i remember you just have to find the right driver for your card, and it should all be explained along with the driver.

ok.... i'll try the universal ASIO driver
hopefully it'll work

edit = no idea how to work it it ends in the recycle bin =.=
oh well

This post has been edited by sean392: Dec 7 2005, 08:25 PM

im using the emu 0404
its a bloody good soundcard for USD100
has got a wide rangeof build in effects which imo sound just as good as cubase, guitar rig
you can put the effects before or after your input signal

highly recommended

Seriously... for budget recorders out there asking which sound card you should get..... just go straight for the emu 0404.... Anymore threads on this will get WHACKERIZED!!!!

Oic....thx for ur kindness....not the time yet for me to ask for recording.....just planning to buy a sound card for better sound quality and for recording laster on.....anyway....thx....

sean, ASIO is the way to go when it comes to the lag issue... you should continue digging in that direction, read your recording software's Help, the Asio driver's Help and possibly some internet litterature... good luck

For beginner....can consider ESI MAYA44... it support : E-WDM where consider of

1) ASIO 2.0
2) WDM
3) MME
4) GSIF

+ DirectWire feature which is very usefull.......

MAYA44 price also very afforable....

If you like to learn SOANR 4 with ESI product... please feel free to contact us....

we can show + teach you free..... if you are ESI user..... ( ofcouse beli di malaysialah)

Hey guys...listen to my recording..why got some "static" or interference in the song? How to hilangkan it?

http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2V7X4HG...XI3410BBCYLSB00

This post has been edited by headhunter7: Dec 23 2005, 05:01 PM

its best to try to eliminate noise when recording. but if that cant be done, u can always use audio editing programmes to remove noise.

its that x-fi card so good for recording, my fren wanna sell about rm380 for me, but i got no ideas bout it..

Yeah I tried to do that, but it still remains.
Audio editing programmes..such as...?

Some Emu user also told me the same isseu.... BTW, ESI have very simple to user control panel.


X-fi is not main for recording... u can consider ESI :MAYA44 (4in/4out) , JULI@ (4in/4out with MIDI + record/palyback: 24bit/192kHz )

U may need to check the cable or you can try use belden cable with Rean/ Neutrik connector, this type of cable ave very clean.... please feel free to try.

most audio editing softwares have it. eg: adobe audition

cables are very important. neutrik user here!

Oh btw what you guys think of it ?

Trashtastic! Darn heavy and in-your-face tone! Nice pinch harmonics too.

What did you use to record anyway, only you and the drummer?

Mic infront of amp > PC
Audacity is what I used


Yeah..only me and my bro XD Im gonna add a second guitar later XD

HH7 tats the sound i get too when i plug my guitar into my mic input on my notebook....and not to mention the sound ...sounds very cassate tape like..u know when u record with a cassate tape it sounds as tho ur very far from the mic...mind sharing how u record to make ur sound better?

Don't plug it into the mic input. that will ruin the sound. Plug it in the Line-In and see if that works.

Oh okay I'll try that, btw it was the adaptor that was sucky >_>

Edit: I used the line in, no sound.

This post has been edited by headhunter7: Dec 28 2005, 03:04 PM

Don't forget to un-mute the Line-In in Volume Playback properties as well as select it in Volume Recording properties.

Ah that works..but it's so damn weak, how can I raise the volume?

Weak? Is it a non-processed sound? Are u plugging ur guitar in direct without any effects? If ur going direct I would suggest at least amp simulators or effects processors as it would sound pretty flat un-EQ'd. Otherwise u can also use PC-based effect softwares.

No, I'm plugging my mic,then put it infront of my amp. If I use the mic port , even volume at 2.5 I can hear it clearly.
But if it's at line in, I need to crank it up, or I need to turn up my volume.

HH7, and here comes the mic pre-amp, that you put between the mic and the line-input EBP has one, a tube one I recall.

Isn't he using that preamp for his Behringer V-Amp Pro??

Owhh. Well, if that's the case, i'd suggest u plug it in the mic port. The line-in is better if ur plugging in direct from the guitar.

If u have a mic pre-amp then it's another story.

How much does these pre amp costs?

Do u have an amp sim or FX proc? Y don't u try plugging in direct 1st and see how that sounds.

Uh..where do I get those?

led zep, i suppose you can use a preamp to amplify any kind of very low signal, whether it's from the guitar, the mic or a v-amp. Improves dynamic and definition of sound (confirm with EBP, but since he never recorded anything for us, how can we trust him ?!? )

Like Pix mentioned, any pre-amp would do. What i meant was somethin like a POD, Zoom, Boss, Behringer (i assume ur using this?) or anything which can amplify and perhaps add some colour to it. Using both mic'd and direct recording has a different effect to the sound.

To me, direct is easier to manage but tends to sound a bit flat and 'digital'. Mic'd gives u the room ambience and the ability to explore various mic/spkr/amp placement and combinations.

Excuse me, that Behringer Virtual Amp, LIne 6, POD, isit software or real amp..i still confuse until now..since i'm tried record my tracks plugin the guitar directly into mic port, i'm using cool edit pro, n mastered using "master clean sumthing2" la (forget the full name)..

im read in the forum that i need THAT Behringer, POD etc Virtual Amp or Pre -Amp..

The one's i'm referring to are the real modelers. Real hardwares. Which u can stomp at and dial-in ur tones too. The PC-based ones work the same way I guess, only that the effects are produced using softwares. I've never tried those so I can't say much about the sound difference.

Preamps can make a whole load of difference... Don't rely on cheap preamps if you can help it... Unfortunately I haven't played with great preamps...

I have done a couple of classical ambient recordings using (bleh, not my equipment) AKG C414 B-ULS large-diaphragm condensers (~ RM4500 each?) in ORTF setup with Spirit Studio mixer (built-in preamps) + Delta 1010 interface... Sounds quite decent actually, but preamps would make a huge difference, I think.

preamps can cost from a few hundred ringgit to a few thousand. u can try cheap tube mic preamps such as behringer mic100, or one by dbx. i've tried these two budget tube preamps. i have also tried(and work with them for live purpose) lots of different high end preamps and u'll be surprised how much it will change your tone. it wont change it in such a drastic way as a guitar amp does but the difference can be heard(eg: a more enhanced sound).

recording using a laptop isnt much of a problem if u know how to set things up properly. i did a number of recordings for ppl using my laptop and still it sounded good. cant upload any now because my uni's internet is down and i cant afford to go to starbucks just to use their wifi.

pix, preamp plays more role in moulding the tone, not amplifying it. that will be the poweramp's role.

leadaxer, if u want a room ambience or a studio feel to your recordings, u can always add studio reverb, where u can adjust everything from room size, ceiling height, amount of reverb, etc. Remember after recording your guitar, there are still lots to do to make it sound good such as compress, eq, etc.

i've never tried software guitar amp modelling before so i wouldnt know. i've used behringer, podxt, boss gt8 and others. theyre very good. having good equipments is one thing, knowing how to use them to get the best out of them is another.

For me, I need preamps which can raise the level without inducing any added noise&hiss. With ambient recordings, it can be a challenge to get a good signal, because of the huge dynamic range... Need a good preamp.

There's no problem recording with a laptop. Just get an audio interface card (like the E-MU 1616M, or M-Audio Firewire1814 or similar ) and you'll lave loads of fun...

Yepp, post production can still change the sound of the recorded instrument.

Currently, i'm recording using N-Track Studio for guitars and vocals. The drums and bass are sequenced and programmed using Guitar Pro. Recording is done track by track at home on my PC. I'm having a slight problem wif the vocals though. After recorded, the mixture of vocals and music don't sound quite right. The vocals sound like they are being slapped on top of the music and not mix together wif the overall sound. Bunyi tampal in short.

Anyone have any ideas how 2 improve that? I tried adding some reverb but it still sounds 'tampal' to my ears. Is it due to the fact that I recorded it using a cheapo Genius brand PC mic straight into the mic port?

This post has been edited by leadaxer: Dec 31 2005, 03:20 PM

if you use a mic designed for webcam, of course lah dapat sound webcam

try to look for/borrow a karaoke mic and re-record the vocals. won't get professional sound, but much better than the genius mic.

Actually I'd worry just as much for that mic port... What kinda quality you think a mic port can give? (I guess you're using integrated or something else, without any balanced input)

Shure SM58 - The standard mic used for vocals.. ~RM400

And you'd need a good ADC + preamp

I'm sure the mic would make a difference in vocal quality but i can't actually afford an SM58. Wut i'm more concerned about is the mix. The vocals just won't blend in.

I'll try a karaoke mic and see if there's a whole lot of difference in the overall mix.

So it just doesn't flow with the music? Perhaps jutting out a bit?

First.. set the levels to what suits the music... Have you put any equalization on it? Depends on what kind of music it is.. you could have a presence boost.. or cut parts which don't fit.. You could also try putting a bit of dynamic compression on it... set the panning properly, perhaps use a bit of de-esser... If it stands out too much, you could try adding small bits of reverb... 1 sen worth..

EDIT: (Don't worry about bad equipment actually.. if you can't afford it then never mind... make do with what you have. My first recording was done with an RM5 computer mic) Sorry I can't help much as I have not heard the mix... and neither are my mixing skills that great..

This post has been edited by hoongern: Jan 3 2006, 02:24 PM

ok, here's from my experience if u dont have a good mic preamp(in this case and many cases i've done, its mic to pc straight). 1st, try to get a very transparent and natural sound. the sm58 is a classic but not necessary.i've done recordings using a cheap computer mic(i'll post it up once i get back to kuching during CNY as theres no internet line for me here in kl). use a compressor to taste as vocals tend to have very big and obvious dynamic range. after that add some EQ to balance in with the mix(and add presence/others). finally add studio reverb. adjust to get a studio environment sound. use this to fake as if u're using a condensor mic to record in a recording environment.

oh ya, if you're like me, set the pitch corrector to the key of the song and keep it on *winks*. thatll solve your 'nanyi tak chun'

ebp... what pitch corrector do u use? a dxi plugin?

not a plugin. the one in adobe audition.

arggghh couldnt figur out how to record with adobe audition
i tried using my g2.1u usb interface but it seems nothing's coming out

-nvm figured out how to use the adobe audition alradi -

This post has been edited by tookinen: Jan 11 2006, 09:54 PM