QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 10 2011, 10:36 PM)
the last time i remembered forte 1.6 4 speed was really sucky. after going through with peugeot 308THP and 407, those feeling were amazing, i guess going southwards in testing car is really not fair i shall say. the expectation were too high.
The 407 should be left out since it's a D-segment car.
The 308 on the other hand, isn't really a comfortable drive especially the 308T version. If you are comparing the old 4 speed-box 308 to the old 4 speed Forte, I would say that the Forte's box is comparatively smoother and more relaxing.
The Pug's box has an annoying habit to downshift early and it also refuses to upshift from 3rd to 4th unless your speed is 70kmh, which means that most of the time during your typical urban driving you'll be revving beyond 2k rpm at speeds of 60kmh.
For the Forte, it is cruising leisurely at 1.4K rpm at 60kmh. Sure, the lower rpm means that the torque would be less, but we're talking about gentle cruising in busy urban areas where refinement and ride comfort is more important than brute power.
In manual shifting mode, the Pug's box can shift quite roughly compared to the Forte's; but it has to be said both of them are pretty slow in terms of manual shifts as they are old-tech 4 speed boxes. Can't say the same for the 6 speed versions of both the facelifted Forte and 308.
The 308's suspension setting especially for the 308T is as stiff as rock. Going over bumps will be a butt-jarring ride, although some people actually like it for a more spirited drive.
The areas where the Pug triumphs over the Forte would be of course the low-end torque of the turbocharger (308T of course, usual 308 only has a lethargic 1.6L), more busty seats, more brand prestige over Kia, and moonroof. I do enjoy driving my family's 308T, but I find that my Forte is the easier car to live with and manoeuvre around town.
QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 10 2011, 10:32 PM)
But i just spoke to a friend who is driving honda city with paddle shifters and he told me that he doesn't really use the feature,
Your friend is missing out all the fun.
I enjoyed every moment of using the paddle shifters in one of my friend's old 7-speed Jazz. Very smooth and quick changes indeed, and you can keep both hands on the wheel instead of needing to use the left on the stick. Use paddle shifters on winding mountain roads which involves lots of up/downshifting and you'll have lots of fun.
This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Feb 11 2011, 02:05 PM