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post Feb 10 2011, 10:36 PM

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the last time i remembered forte 1.6 4 speed was really sucky. after going through with peugeot 308THP and 407, those feeling were amazing, i guess going southwards in testing car is really not fair i shall say. the expectation were too high.

so now have to have a fair comparison, Forte VS inspira, which is kind of hard to find 2.0P in show rooms.

i believe the avante would be more than 100k presumably it arrives in our shores.


Added on February 10, 2011, 10:42 pmalso i wanna ask again, how many airbags are there in the 1.6SX and the 2.0L ? is it still 2 and 6, or now all 2 only.

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post Feb 10 2011, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 10 2011, 10:36 PM)
the last time i remembered forte 1.6 4 speed was really sucky. after going through with peugeot 308THP and 407, those feeling were amazing, i guess going southwards in testing car is really not fair i shall say. the expectation were too high.

so now have to have a fair comparison, Forte VS inspira, which is kind of hard to find 2.0P in show rooms.

i believe the avante would be more than 100k presumably it arrives in our shores.


Added on February 10, 2011, 10:42 pmalso i wanna ask again, how many airbags are there in the 1.6SX and the 2.0L ? is it still 2 and 6, or now all 2 only.
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i think the inspira should be more powerful than forte, for me i'm not looking for a more powerful car, but a decently kitted car and one that is well designed. for the airbags, yes still 2 and 6, no diff.
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post Feb 11 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 10 2011, 10:48 PM)
i think the inspira should be more powerful than forte, for me i'm not looking for a more powerful car, but a decently kitted car and one that is well designed. for the airbags, yes still 2 and 6, no diff.
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From my test drive outcome, Cerato 6 speed had a better driving experience. Just my personal review unsure.gif

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post Feb 11 2011, 10:10 AM

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Inspira is lighter than Forte, therefore it is more powerful than Forte...
driving experience, still feels Forte better...since i owned a 4spd F1.6, still no regrets, still feels it's very good, wonder why u all said it sucks?
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post Feb 11 2011, 10:30 AM

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comapring to 308 and 407 after test driving them. Of course your brain will tell you forte sucks. As they are different in class. Of course a mc pherson can never be as nice as a double wishbone.

anyway will try forte again, probably this time round directly test drive a forte. Well at least clearly here Naza is not making you pay extra 4 to 5 K for nothing, Unlike T and H which you really pay for nothing.
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post Feb 11 2011, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 11 2011, 10:30 AM)
comapring to 308 and 407 after test driving them. Of course your brain will tell you forte sucks. As they are different in class. Of course a mc pherson can never be as nice as a double wishbone.

anyway will try forte again, probably this time round directly test drive a forte. Well at least clearly here Naza is not making you pay extra 4 to 5 K for nothing, Unlike T and H which you really pay for nothing.
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the 4 - 5k actually got, minor cosmetics interior and exterior, and if not mistaken the electric folding side mirror (like forte facelift) is added too. but other than that nothing extraordinary. The extra 4-5k not really justified IMHO.
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post Feb 11 2011, 11:39 AM

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why official kia page doesnt show fl forte and spec?
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post Feb 11 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(limping @ Feb 11 2011, 11:39 AM)
why official kia page doesnt show fl forte and spec?
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Naza Kia Malaysia told me they're updating that and the microsite (which has been down for quite some time already). If you want more info on the spec, you can try going to this site:

kiamotors.com/vehicles/cerato-forte/gallery-exterior.aspx
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post Feb 11 2011, 11:49 AM

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hi there.. just want to ask for some help..

I plan to do my spoiler.. but the person who is doing the spoiler is asking me for the "color code" , which I don't know.. I just know my car is spicy red.. haha.. anybody know what is the color code for spicy red? thanks in advance~!
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post Feb 11 2011, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 11 2011, 11:26 AM)
the 4 - 5k actually got, minor cosmetics interior and exterior, and if not mistaken the electric folding side mirror (like forte facelift) is added too. but other than that nothing extraordinary. The extra 4-5k not really justified IMHO.
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the extra 4~5k is really justified. and not fair to previous owner.
with mere 4K new FL equipped with 6-speed gb and lots of enhancement.

the new GB alone already justified the new price. not to mention paddle shift, reverse camera, autofold side mirror and bluetooth
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post Feb 11 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 10 2011, 10:36 PM)
the last time i remembered forte 1.6 4 speed was really sucky. after going through with peugeot 308THP and 407, those feeling were amazing, i guess going southwards in testing car is really not fair i shall say. the expectation were too high.
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The 407 should be left out since it's a D-segment car.

The 308 on the other hand, isn't really a comfortable drive especially the 308T version. If you are comparing the old 4 speed-box 308 to the old 4 speed Forte, I would say that the Forte's box is comparatively smoother and more relaxing.

The Pug's box has an annoying habit to downshift early and it also refuses to upshift from 3rd to 4th unless your speed is 70kmh, which means that most of the time during your typical urban driving you'll be revving beyond 2k rpm at speeds of 60kmh.

For the Forte, it is cruising leisurely at 1.4K rpm at 60kmh. Sure, the lower rpm means that the torque would be less, but we're talking about gentle cruising in busy urban areas where refinement and ride comfort is more important than brute power.

In manual shifting mode, the Pug's box can shift quite roughly compared to the Forte's; but it has to be said both of them are pretty slow in terms of manual shifts as they are old-tech 4 speed boxes. Can't say the same for the 6 speed versions of both the facelifted Forte and 308.

The 308's suspension setting especially for the 308T is as stiff as rock. Going over bumps will be a butt-jarring ride, although some people actually like it for a more spirited drive.

The areas where the Pug triumphs over the Forte would be of course the low-end torque of the turbocharger (308T of course, usual 308 only has a lethargic 1.6L), more busty seats, more brand prestige over Kia, and moonroof. I do enjoy driving my family's 308T, but I find that my Forte is the easier car to live with and manoeuvre around town.

QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 10 2011, 10:32 PM)
But i just spoke to a friend who is driving honda city with paddle shifters and he told me that he doesn't really use the feature,
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Your friend is missing out all the fun.

I enjoyed every moment of using the paddle shifters in one of my friend's old 7-speed Jazz. Very smooth and quick changes indeed, and you can keep both hands on the wheel instead of needing to use the left on the stick. Use paddle shifters on winding mountain roads which involves lots of up/downshifting and you'll have lots of fun.

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 10 2011, 10:36 PM)
the last time i remembered forte 1.6 4 speed was really sucky. after going through with peugeot 308THP and 407, those feeling were amazing, i guess going southwards in testing car is really not fair i shall say. the expectation were too high.

so now have to have a fair comparison, Forte VS inspira, which is kind of hard to find 2.0P in show rooms.

i believe the avante would be more than 100k presumably it arrives in our shores.


Added on February 10, 2011, 10:42 pmalso i wanna ask again, how many airbags are there in the 1.6SX and the 2.0L ? is it still 2 and 6, or now all 2 only.
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aduhai .... Forte 1.6 vs 308T vs 407
1 got turbo , another D segment , all 3 from same company but wrong way to compare

best comparison at the moment is
Inspira vs FORTE

for 80k segment Inspira 1.8 have a lead over the engine bay, features wise think about it yourself
for 90k segment I will go for FORTE 2.0 hands down
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post Feb 11 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Feb 11 2011, 01:09 PM)
the extra 4~5k is really justified. and not fair to previous owner.
with mere 4K new FL equipped with 6-speed gb and lots of enhancement.

the new GB alone already justified the new price. not to mention paddle shift, reverse camera, autofold side mirror and bluetooth
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Taipan, i think u misunderstand me liao, i actually referring to vios facelift 4-5k increase last time not justified compared to forte. Forte one definitely worth it smile.gif


Added on February 11, 2011, 2:52 pm
QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Feb 11 2011, 02:02 PM)
The 407 should be left out since it's a D-segment car.

The 308 on the other hand, isn't really a comfortable drive especially the 308T version. If you are comparing the old 4 speed-box 308 to the old 4 speed Forte, I would say that the Forte's box is comparatively smoother and more relaxing.

The Pug's box has an annoying habit to downshift early and it also refuses to upshift from 3rd to 4th unless your speed is 70kmh, which means that most of the time during your typical urban driving you'll be revving beyond 2k rpm at speeds of 60kmh.

For the Forte, it is cruising leisurely at 1.4K rpm at 60kmh. Sure, the lower rpm means that the torque would be less, but we're talking about gentle cruising in busy urban areas where refinement and ride comfort is more important than brute power.

In manual shifting mode, the Pug's box can shift quite roughly compared to the Forte's; but it has to be said both of them are pretty slow in terms of manual shifts as they are old-tech 4 speed boxes. Can't say the same for the 6 speed versions of both the facelifted Forte and 308.

The 308's suspension setting especially for the 308T is as stiff as rock. Going over bumps will be a butt-jarring ride, although some people actually like it for a more spirited drive.

The areas where the Pug triumphs over the Forte would be of course the low-end torque of the turbocharger (308T of course, usual 308 only has a lethargic 1.6L), more busty seats, more brand prestige over Kia, and moonroof. I do enjoy driving my family's 308T, but I find that my Forte is the easier car to live with and manoeuvre around town.
Your friend is missing out all the fun.

I enjoyed every moment of using the paddle shifters in one of my friend's old 7-speed Jazz. Very smooth and quick changes indeed, and you can keep both hands on the wheel instead of needing to use the left on the stick. Use paddle shifters on winding mountain roads which involves lots of up/downshifting and you'll have lots of fun.
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Well i'll have to try it to reserve my own comments on it. Will see how often i use it. Cant wait to get my car!

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Feb 11 2011, 10:10 AM)
Inspira is lighter than Forte, therefore it is more powerful than Forte...
driving experience, still feels Forte better...since i owned a 4spd F1.6, still no regrets, still feels it's very good, wonder why u all said it sucks?
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stupid nonsense.. inspira is heavier than forte. 1335kg against 1326kg of the forte

XionCity, wake up la..
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post Feb 11 2011, 11:57 PM

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looking forward to one of our forumer who will be coming to get his kia forte installed for the locktech smile.gif tomorrow


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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Feb 11 2011, 11:26 AM)
the 4 - 5k actually got, minor cosmetics interior and exterior, and if not mistaken the electric folding side mirror (like forte facelift) is added too. but other than that nothing extraordinary. The extra 4-5k not really justified IMHO.
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The FL comes with:

1) New 6-speed gearbox that turns a sluggish beastie into a refined cruiser that also saves a bit more fuel

2) Faster century sprint times and higher top speed

3) Bluetooth connectivity so you don't have to mess with cables

4) Paddle shifters so you can control those 6 gears more precisely, especially during corners

5) New design of shift knob and boot cover

6) Reverse camera built into the anamorphic rear view mirror

7) Refined signal repeaters on the wing mirrors

8) Electric folding mirrors

9) New honeycomb grille up front

10) Slightly larger foglights, could be better light output? I don't know

11) Year 2011 car so residual value is better

I think it's worth it smile.gif


Added on February 12, 2011, 12:47 am
QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 11 2011, 03:00 PM)
stupid nonsense.. inspira is heavier than forte. 1335kg against 1326kg of the forte

XionCity, wake up la..
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The 2.0 Forte is 1,326kg while the 1.6 is only 1,261kg smile.gif

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QUOTE(gregy @ Feb 12 2011, 12:46 AM)
The FL comes with:

1) New 6-speed gearbox that turns a sluggish beastie into a refined cruiser that also saves a bit more fuel

2) Faster century sprint times and higher top speed

3) Bluetooth connectivity so you don't have to mess with cables

4) Paddle shifters so you can control those 6 gears more precisely, especially during corners

5) New design of shift knob and boot cover

6) Reverse camera built into the anamorphic rear view mirror

7) Refined signal repeaters on the wing mirrors

8) Electric folding mirrors

9) New honeycomb grille up front

10) Slightly larger foglights, could be better light output? I don't know

11) Year 2011 car so residual value is better

I think it's worth it smile.gif


Added on February 12, 2011, 12:47 am

The 2.0 Forte is 1,326kg while the 1.6 is only 1,261kg smile.gif
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AHH IM SO JEALOUS!!! FL SOUNDS SO GOOD!!!
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post Feb 12 2011, 09:17 AM

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Still waiting for my FL...next week should be able to get it smile.gif
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post Feb 12 2011, 10:02 AM

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the heavyness i refering to is not the vehicle weight..i was refering to the rims...
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post Feb 12 2011, 12:36 PM

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Hello...
Hi newbie here!
Where do I sign up?
Lolz..


Added on February 12, 2011, 12:57 pm
QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Feb 9 2011, 03:29 PM)
try kota damansara. new SC. sure best service that willl give to customer.

u lenglui?
lenglui also? or tarp whistling.gif
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