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hazril
post Oct 25 2010, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(joejoe2004 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:57 AM)
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one tip i received when i want to buy my camera before this...
"which camera feels comfortable in your hands,thats the one" smile.gif

anyway,IMHO i'll go for a580...
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post Oct 25 2010, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 25 2010, 11:04 AM)
can see the serial number.
yeah. i am one of the 'lucky' ones only.  sad.gif
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can give some guidelines?
in the lens itself no different?
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QUOTE(joejoe2004 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:57 AM)
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the ISO info won't be in the OVF unfortunately sad.gif the over heating is not an issue. its not like you will be video recording 20 minutes straight right? you have your camcorder for that purpose. biggrin.gif

like hazril said, buy the one which feels more comfortable in your hands. both are equally good cameras. smile.gif


QUOTE(8tvt @ Oct 25 2010, 11:06 AM)
can give some guidelines?
in the lens itself no different?
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the serial number is on the lens itself. i forgotten how's the difference already. >< maybe can ask uncle sifu cjlai. blush.gif
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post Oct 25 2010, 11:30 AM

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zstan: Show us a picture of your Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 DiII VC for A-mount - that is what you mean by latest version, yes? It doesn't exist on the Tamron website.

It's your A300's fault by the way for the backfocus.

8tvt: Cons being that it doesn't focus with the NEX-3/NEX-5 with LA-EA1 adapter.

wingster: I dunno lah, maybe if all your coursemates did worse or same level, then as a lecturer I'd give you decent marks... but this is like not enough effort to make a picture. Sometimes you gotta buy your skater friend dinner in order to get some cooperation.

Also - we could help! Call a few of us out, we'll have more flashes, and more lens choices.

Newbieeeeee: Slightly lacking contrast, but you can boost it in Picasa or any editing software. Or you could just use Vivid Creative Style.

joejoe2004: ISO does not show in the viewfinder for the A580.

There are other intrinsic things. For example, the A55 in manual focus video gets a focus confirmation dot while the A580 cannot. (Of course, the A55 does AF in video, but if you want to use manual focus, you can.) The A55 also does not flip up the mirror at all, which means no mirror slap (and sharper images, especially at certain shutter speeds.)
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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 25 2010, 11:30 AM)
zstan: Show us a picture of your Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 DiII VC for A-mount - that is what you mean by latest version, yes? It doesn't exist on the Tamron website.

It's your A300's fault by the way for the backfocus.

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er..of course it doesn't exist..A-mounts all no VC one for tamron. if i not mistaken. there's no VC version of this lens for sony mount.

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post Oct 25 2010, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 25 2010, 11:30 AM)
zstan: Show us a picture of your Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 DiII VC for A-mount - that is what you mean by latest version, yes? It doesn't exist on the Tamron website.

It's your A300's fault by the way for the backfocus.

8tvt: Cons being that it doesn't focus with the NEX-3/NEX-5 with LA-EA1 adapter.
yup² show us..
might thinking to get one or just grab the new prime..
can't make a choice at the moment.. sweat.gif


Added on October 25, 2010, 11:43 amerr.. is it the old one or got a new revision?

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post Oct 25 2010, 11:45 AM

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@albnok: Really not enough effort argh >.< .... well I have try my best but maybe is not enough I think :{ .... already spam 1 month on skatepark for shooting still cannot get decent result
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QUOTE(joejoe2004 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:57 AM)
Hi, I'm new in this thread....

I intend to become an Alphanatic or Aplhanian whichever applicable lah...  tongue.gif

I went to Sony Style at The Curve and testing out A580 & A55 last saturday and I'm undecided which model to go.  Each has pros & cons...

A580 
- Nice grip....felt comfortable & solid immediately but could be tiring after a while because it's heavier especially if I'm into traveling or wondering around for photos.
- Somehow I like the control better than A55, don't know why?
- comfortable OVF. A bit dim and only 95% coverage.  Still ok to me but I need to go back to see if whether ISO info there or not..... unsure.gif Anyone?
- No AF in video but this is not a concern as I own a Full HD videocam also from Sony.... blush.gif
- 7 fps is good enough and I think I won't be using it that often....
- IQ is said to be better than A55 after 200% cropping!! Not an issue in real world.
- Marginally more expensive than A55...
- Better battery life!!

A55
- Grip Ok but not as comfortable as A580 but very nice to carry around.
- Nice EVF....brighter than A580 OVF!! 100% coverage!! Dark when ISO turn to i.e. ISO 100. When panning, can see some "rainbow" effect but this is not a problem for me lah.
- Efficient video AF although is all automatic.  Nice thing to have lah....
- 10 fps is very good. Also nice thing to have lah....
- IQ is said to be lower than A580 after 200% cropping!! Also not an issue in real world.
- Marginally cheaper than A580...
- Extra batteries required!! (counter with extra batt about the same price as A580)
- Awkward when pair with external flash!! Big head small body!!!  tongue.gif

As you can see, video & the burst rate are not the concerns here...I'm more into landscape, portrait & candid and will venture into Studio photography. I will take the kit lens 18-55mm SAM & 55-200mm SAM first and may get the 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 for portrait & 70-200(or G may be) later when budget permitted.  As for landscape probably Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 fast lens.

My initial model was A55 and I read reviews that A55 has studio setup problems and need to work "around" to get the desire results.  But I'm not sure about A580 studio setup but I think it's the same as A550.  I read that A55 will not have a vertical grip.  A55 also has compatibilities issue with Sigma lens and must make sure A33/55 sticker must be on the box before purchase (not an issue but need to be extra alert).  Heat issues also another problem I read in forums for A55 in video and stills!!! But I have not experience it when I done the testing (20 minutes). Anyone of you ever experience the heat issue?

Due to the above, with all the pros & cons (both models are really good!!), I think I will likely to choose A580 over A55.  I need a camera that can last me longer.  I think I can work around with the available kit lens for better pictures and will budget for primes, telephotos and studio strobes later. I know investing in glass is better in a long run.  But then again, reading forums make me intoxicated (too much poisons) and need a urge to find cure!!  tongue.gif By the way, all my friends & enemies are into Canikon & some Olympus!! Their Sonys are all P&S type.

I still keep my SLR Yashica FX3 2000 & kits. Bought a Sony DSC V1 P&S & HD videocam few years back and now itching for my first DSLR!!! Now making my choice, Sony DSLR A580..... is this the camera for me or A55?  With all the sifus & veterans here, what say you? hmm.gif 

Thanks in advance!!!  smile.gif
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Hot issue no really i try my a55 shoot video until 1 hour i only feel my body hot abit haha!

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post Oct 25 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(aureliux @ Oct 25 2010, 01:13 AM)
Can't sleep.. So some late nite pic spam.

Slow shutter experiment at Putrajaya. smile.gif  C&C are most welcome. smile.gif
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For pic 02, i purposely leave it uncrop, i kinda like the "tall" reflection of the tower light. smile.gif
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pic #1 is nice.....but maybe can use higher F to get the light into star shape...hehe.. blush.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Oct 25 2010, 11:58 AM)
pic #1 is nice.....but maybe can use higher F to get the light into star shape...hehe.. blush.gif
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what shutter speed is that best?
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QUOTE(fansoption @ Oct 25 2010, 12:00 PM)
what shutter speed is that best?
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i talk about aperture u ask me shutter speed... sweat.gif sweat.gif

use aperture like F11-13.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Oct 25 2010, 12:01 PM)
i talk about aperture u ask me shutter speed... sweat.gif  sweat.gif

use aperture like F11-13.. biggrin.gif
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Ya i know u talk about aperture but i want to know shutter speed
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QUOTE(fansoption @ Oct 25 2010, 12:02 PM)
Ya i know u talk about aperture but i want to know shutter speed
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if wan get best stunning result, put on a ND110 and use 20-30 sec shutter.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ..
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Oct 25 2010, 12:03 PM)
if wan get best stunning result, put on a ND110 and use 20-30 sec shutter.... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif ..
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no $ to buy ND smile.gif
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QUOTE(fansoption @ Oct 25 2010, 12:04 PM)
no $ to buy ND smile.gif
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=.="..new body u can buy...ND u say no money.. icon_question.gif doh.gif

i wan sp90 also cant afford.. cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Oct 25 2010, 12:05 PM)
=.="..new body u can buy...ND u say no money.. icon_question.gif  doh.gif

i wan sp90 also cant afford.. cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(fansoption @ Oct 25 2010, 11:55 AM)
Hot issue no really i try my a55 shoot video until 1 hour i only feel my body hot abit haha!
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wat setting u use to shoot video till 1 hour? HD or normal video format only ah? if HD, really good..i not yet try mine..maybe i should! hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fansoption @ Oct 25 2010, 12:02 PM)
Ya i know u talk about aperture but i want to know shutter speed
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use A mode kawtim d bro...ISO 100...
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QUOTE(Anly @ Oct 25 2010, 12:14 PM)
wat setting u use to shoot video till 1 hour? HD or normal video format only ah? if HD, really good..i not yet try mine..maybe i should!  hmm.gif
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off HD!!!! Is got a HD body u still want to use un HD meh.
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QUOTE(hazril @ Oct 25 2010, 12:14 PM)
one tip i received when i want to buy my camera before this...
"which camera feels comfortable in your hands,thats the one" smile.gif

anyway,IMHO i'll go for a580...

Thanks hazril!!

QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 25 2010, 12:14 PM)
the ISO info won't be in the OVF unfortunately  sad.gif  the over heating is not an issue. its not like you will be video recording 20 minutes straight right? you have your camcorder for that purpose.  biggrin.gif

like hazril said, buy the one which feels more comfortable in your hands. both are equally good cameras.  smile.gif
Thanks zstan for the info. I think I can live without the ISO info. Just need to preset before taking pics. it's still suit my style (slow & may be steady stylelah). On the heat issue, I thought so....cause I've played for 20 minutes with no heat warning message... blush.gif

QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 25 2010, 12:30 PM)
joejoe2004: ISO does not show in the viewfinder for the A580.

There are other intrinsic things. For example, the A55 in manual focus video gets a focus confirmation dot while the A580 cannot. (Of course, the A55 does AF in video, but if you want to use manual focus, you can.) The A55 also does not flip up the mirror at all, which means no mirror slap (and sharper images, especially at certain shutter speeds.)

Thanks albnok for the finer infos on the iso, video and mirror things.... To counter the mirror effect on sharpness of image, I guess I need to play around with the MLU or MPF with the timer for delicate photo. Or is there any other method to do this? hmm.gif


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