Already test for 1.8 setting tonight... What can i say is my high end, aiyakkk drop gila2, very2 slow to reace at 5.5k rpm compare before installation of TAB... The engine sound also seems back to normal... But feel a little bit lighter for low end... I'm quite satisfied with the 1.0 setting than 1.8... Very2 down after test this setting , but don't get me wrong k...

Yes, correct . Coz too much air mean too lean , that why i said, dont overtune as you will feels power loss and fc increase. Should be 1.0 be good already for most engines below 1800cc/.

hi bro can pm me the best price for your product?
Do you have promotion if im taking TAB and PBTE?
Do you COD + installation around PJ area?
Do you have a runner selling this product by the name of Alvin? (if im not mistaken)

TQ hear from you soon!

If these products are so good, how come no race teams use the products in their car? ;).

A quick google search for "Air bleeds into the inlet manifold" should save a lot of people from parting with their hard-earned.

I'm sorry seller but this is similar to the power balance bracelets with similar impossible explanations as to what the product actually does. This however is worse because it can actually cause harm to everyone in the form of increased pollution, and to the car owner in the form of possible engine damage if it makes the engine run too lean (setting the device to the "wrong CC" would probably do that.).

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Joined 7.37am, posted 7.42am ...you created a new account just to post here, i am amused! Thanks for the bump. As suggested , we dont recommend going too high as it will cause bad fc and power loss. I am sure you didn't even read the whole thread. Thanks for your concern. And if its just an air bleed why does many feels the different compared to other brand on the market. Something for you to wonder.

This post has been edited by IceCube: Jan 17 2011, 11:34 PM

i use saga blm, how much it will take bro

UGPM bro. It fits saga blm nicely. Will feels the car easier to rev and more responsive straight away. sms me if want cod for faster respond at 016-6960886. thanks~

Hey bro IceCube, how are you doing ? long time didn't came here to have a greet.

I've already remove the TAB from my CAR as the idle shaking problem is bothering me after installing this TAB, its getting worse after sometime so I decided to remove it, after removing it, no more shaking, so its somehow letting too much air into it. I guess this thing doesn't work for my car, but good to see that it work for others

Good luck on your sales , thx.

This post has been edited by mercury: Jan 21 2011, 05:37 PM

hey bro mercury,

If not mistaken your car is saga/iswara? If the idling problem, you can opt to install it before the FICD unit or try after the FCID unit. It might solve the idling problem you said.

Err, wrong.....obviously you didn't remember me. Well nvm......
I'm the one with the 2.4L engine guy....which is not either cars that you mention, no offense, peace
My problem was the engine shaking when idle after installing the TAB, actually it happened when you first installed, but I didn't care too much and thought the ECU will adjust accordingly after time.
Unfortunately not, shaking problem persist until I remove it though, maybe my engine doesn't like it, LOL.

Cheers

I think we tune it to 2.5? If you can, try lowering the setting. Too much air probably.

I'm not sure why you are amused that i created an account here - a prerequisite for posting is to create an account. You aren't able to post as a guest here. I was researching fuel saving scams for a college project and found this place.

These devices basically do the same thing that a carburetor adjustment would do such as changing the carburetor jetting only for a lot more $$$ and added weight to the car as well. In modern cars the Lamda sensor is at the exhaust - so when the device introduces more air into the system the computer quickly realizes this because the mixture exiting the engine is not optimal.

The problem is that the engine management system only fixes the lamda to a certain extent - so with your device if you are letting in too much air to throw the lamda reading off so that 20% more fuel for example is required the management system in effect assumes it is a faulty sensor and only fixes it up to 10-15%, resulting in a leaner mixture, giving a small savings in fuel consumption (2-5%). So yes in a way the device might save fuel if is letting in too much air. But the tradeoff is dramatically increased pollution as well as more engine wear, and possibly loss of power.

Other than making the mixture too lean another way that the device can damage the engine is by providing an unfiltered source of air directly into the engine. Hopefully this product at least has an air filter - if it does can it be changed?

Now I'm not sure if you are mislead as to the benefits they provide or if you also believe in the misinformation. Either way I'd just like to inform buyers so that they can make an educated decision before parting with their cash.

In many countries products like these aren't sold because the consumer commissions are strong enough so that people selling the devices very quickly get found out and have to refund all the money and/or pay additional damages. Unfortunately in Malaysia this is unlikely to happen.

Some reading: Air Bleed Devices
And the link to the Full Site to learn about the "magnet" fuel savers and other automotive scam products.

The website also has a bit on the electrical type of product that you also sold.

To counter your justification as to why these devices aren't installed by Perodua for example where you stated it is simply too expensive for them.. then have a think about this quoted from the above site:


Now if you happen to have some proper test data to back up your claims you should stop selling this device to unfortunate end users and take it to car manufacturers.

If you know it's a scam and yet keep selling them then that's cool I wish you the best and luckily for you it is unlikely you will get sued. I'm sure you will conjure up another great reply that seems to make sense to some people that will still buy your product.

I don't sell cars or any automotive products so my interest in this matter is simply to better inform consumers and protect the environment.

Thanks for the info CItpeks in a knowledge point of view.

Anyways I dont think brother IceCube is a conman nor does he knows that the TAB item is in any ways a scam item.

Hes just a genuine seller that has tried and has seen the item work, I read the entire 33 pages and one of my friend has purchase the item from his freelance seller and personally, i too notice the difference in his car along with all the buyers in this thread.

I'm a very sceptical person towards all these items, no i did not purchase this item due to the possible wear and tear reason of unfiltered air in a long run of such items, but it is undeniably that if you are looking for a slight performance increase with a low budget, this is the item to get as i've felt the responsiveness in my friends car (same car model as mine)

Anyways, it is also the buyers choice to purchase or not to purchase regardless of how you wanna prove the item wrong.

We all know that in lowyat forum, when someone sells an item that only gives a placebo effect, he will usually get screw upside down and will not get this much of testimonial and pages long.

Cheers
Just my 2 cents
Peace no war

I would not last a day if its a con. Its been since 2007 i am here selling stuff, met majority of the buyer here personally face-to-face COD. I doubt with CItpeks , copy and paste and name throwing would do him any good.

bro still remember me? yesterday just install before my vios 1km 0.12-0.14 now 1km only 0.1sen thanks bro nice product. May be Next month with install another product from him, thanks bro its really work hope you will give me good price ha ha have a nice day

yes bro, i install quite alot vios and all very happy like you. see you next month for the pbte.

hi bro, i am driving honda city vtec 2007, is ur product suitable for my car?

btw, i am from jb one, may i know is tat very difficult to install?

thanks~ cheers

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Added on January 26, 2011, 2:33 amsorry bro can u pls pm me the best price also as if i take 2 products (TAB + PCTE) 2gether which inclusive the courier to jb? thanks

This post has been edited by jarodchia: Jan 26 2011, 02:33 AM

Yes, its suitable for city Vtec . Not difficult to install. Just plug the hose together and install.
Already reply to your regarding the price and installation.

Hi humans.
Any of you want to buy used TAB from Icecube?
I duwan use liao.
RM130 only.
COD in Subang Jaya.
Pm me ya thx =)

This post has been edited by heavenly91: Jan 28 2011, 09:21 PM

lol brother look like alot of ppl attack u haha.... after text the tab and pcte see got any changes will give u a feed back.... see whether my vios full tank can go for 900km or not