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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V24, Thuban or Bulldozer!? Its 6-Season

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post Nov 24 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Nov 24 2010, 03:05 PM)
that Llano not for mobile eh?
then what after AM3+?

man if i want to switch donno until when it will last..
not only amd.. intel also the same..

better stick with current rig and wait for stable path..
boring edy need change hardware and clean install everything..
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Hahaha u got an OC quad core + HD6850, what u wanna change somemore meh? laugh.gif

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post Nov 24 2010, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(darkriez @ Nov 24 2010, 08:53 PM)
so far stable at 2.5ghz.. hope when i got my gpu this end of month can stable at 3.0 or 3.2.. i used silent knight n the temp show at idle 40' is it high?
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Silent knight? Xigmatek ka? 40c idle for an AM2+ cpu should be ok, IMO they tend to be a bit more heaty than their AM3 breathen due to their earlier stepping hmm.gif
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post Nov 25 2010, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 25 2010, 04:37 PM)
no WC too!!! air only to be fair... muahahahahha....  laugh.gif

callin sis xixo, kunta & verdict:

Pls give some winprime tutorial here...  tongue.gif
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U want fair, everyone use stock hsf lor laugh.gif
Good info there bro, hopefully our resident tweaker xixo & verdict can join that competition tongue.gif

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post Nov 26 2010, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 26 2010, 11:01 AM)
If short circuit between case and mobo,it wouldnt power up at all,i experienced it before.

It is Asus M4A785 TD V-EVo sth like that forgot le.. Using 785 Chipset.

Any other kind of hardware problems maybe?
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Maybe ram incompatible? Last time my friend pc like that also, cabut gpu try other gpu, cabut psu try other psu, lastly i gave him my kingston kvr to try on his pc & then no prob whatsoever..
Its like his mobo is picky with ram type sweat.gif
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post Nov 26 2010, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Nov 26 2010, 11:50 AM)
hey guys

its been a while since i drop by here.got a few toys to play around with this weekend and im gonna post out some screenie.

sneezec4fsneeze
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What toys are those?? drool.gif drool.gif

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 26 2010, 11:56 AM)
GFX use integrated.Whatelse eh?  sweat.gif
How come incompatible?Its the same RAM i used since i buy.Before this no problem,just recently only doh.gif
I will be waiting brows.gif
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Well it was kinda the same, after assembling it went well with his pc tooo at 1st, a month after i piece up his rig he start to face numerous reboot, hangs etc..
Tested the ram one by one using memtest it was ok, but when used as a pair it went haywire.. demm..
Then i gave him my kvr's all his problem just went away.. hmm.gif
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post Nov 26 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(DET_D5t @ Nov 26 2010, 07:08 PM)
thanks...but bought an old chipset mobo for a great price..  brows.gif

psst.. this is kunta.. using my bro PC, so posting with his acc..
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Old chipset mobo? U must mean an Asus 785 evo right? drool.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 27 2010, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Nov 27 2010, 08:38 AM)
Asrock Extreme3 board with 890GX is a good o/c board rite? Can get it from zhen^wei for rm410 only, is it a steal?
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Not really sure bout Asrock performance coz haven't seen an Asrock user in this oc thread yet laugh.gif
From reviews on the net it seems to be a decent oc mobo hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2010, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(verdict @ Nov 28 2010, 01:07 AM)
My So so result...wanna get the sex core... laugh.gif

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Stable clock at this moment...later when got time will push... blush.gif

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Woooooo naise clock there bro, plus good volt somemore drool.gif drool.gif

QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Nov 28 2010, 01:21 AM)
verdict

jom main hexa

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Nov 28 2010, 01:53 AM)
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still behind my sayang verdict  vmad.gif
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Abg hilmi, why ur pic so big, resize a bit lah, adik tgk kat skrin kecik gambo nampak mcm gergasi sweat.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 28 2010, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Slappa @ Nov 28 2010, 05:46 AM)
Ram OCing really depends on the type of ram you have. I dont really have any other tweaks than what I have posted in my guide. Just get a feel for your memory and try some stuff out.
Canada still gets crappier prices and less choice of hardware then the states though. But it is pretty accessible if you know where to shop.

Giga tends to work great with benchmarking and ram overclocking (the high end ones, I used to have 790FX, and now this 890FXA) THey work excellent for what I do.

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And here's something I did last night:

http://slappablog.wordpress.com/2010/11/27...-stock-cooling/

Thought my board died tonight. Eventually got it back up and running and chew* inspired me to do a 3DMark06 run on the stock cooler. Here it is:

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As you can see this is on the stock AMD cooler only.

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And here is my 3DMark06 result

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Woooooowwww nice one there bro, and still people kept fretting that AMD stock HSF are a piece of crap laugh.gif tongue.gif
I can see some intel stock fan in action too albeit as a ram cooler tho laugh.gif and demm just love the low cpu volt u use to go 4ghz there notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Mind to do maybe a single run of Vantage while u at it also bro? tongue.gif
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post Nov 29 2010, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 29 2010, 11:56 AM)
bro cloud

I already tried with changing RAM still no avail :/x

It hangs then black screen,restart cannot Post edy

Is it possible of mobo faulty or processor faulty?
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It seems like faulty mobo to me, if u already try different cpu & ram still it persist confirm mobo fault.. sweat.gif
Still under warranty kah? hmm.gif I forgot already but is it a DDR2 mobo or DDR3 mobo meh? If DDr2, if u need a cpu i got an old X2 3600+ that u can try if u want.. hmm.gif
BTW have u try other SATA & IDE cables too? Maybe just cable fault, hopefully ah..

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 29 2010, 11:59 AM)
if chip faulty u cant get d system booted at all (fan will still be spinnin but no display), just like my dead sempy...  :/nod:

just received d new chip... older batch if compared to d dead chip, hopefully d disabled core can be unlocked & clocked much better...  :/D
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Yup agree with ah_khoo, its kinda hard to kill a cpu lah nowadays, except if its at the hand of uzer85, kunta & our resident unker whistling.gif laugh.gif
Ooooo got a replacement sempy alredy meh? So fast shocking.gif
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post Nov 29 2010, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 29 2010, 05:30 PM)
amd rma take less than a week here (since d d rma centre just within d same small dot on earth) bro.  smile.gif

waaa... flame lah while u can... later i "makan" all d change of d gu sales then u baru tau...  brows.gif  whistling.gif

I 4got to check d serial no of d dead sempy... who knows it sacrificed itselt just to let strike toto ke? This is 2nd amd chips killed under my hands. D 1st one was a poor t-bred 2600+ (correct me if i'm wrong bout d code name) which lost its live bcoz of cracked die.
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Oppppsss sori, i promise i won't mention it again, if not all the gu sales change will go to ah_khoo junior trust fund laugh.gif
Ya lor, forgot bout that, if u got the serial number back let me know ah, i wanna ask my chinese friend 2 buy that number, if hit i want to ask him komisyen interm of pc hardwares from him laugh.gif

QUOTE(Arawin92 @ Nov 29 2010, 06:48 PM)
anyone hit 4.0 for 1090t x6 using v6gt or similar cooler?
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Ask our bro ah_khoo up there, he hit that using 2 coolers i think, one is his cogage & the other is his venomous x i think wub.gif wub.gif

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post Nov 30 2010, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(fuzore @ Nov 30 2010, 01:07 PM)
wahahahah... then there's no hope for me anymore  sweat.gif  maybe in another 3-5 years i come back again...
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I come back another 10 years still cannot beat also sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Nov 30 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 30 2010, 03:34 PM)
Ah khoo,your place reach AMD Phenom II X4 970 le ma?

If yes how much it is.The proc is Zosma Based Processor  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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I thought only the OEM version u will get the Zosma core? hmm.gif

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 30 2010, 03:49 PM)
who cares as long as ya rig looks nice... chiv + red ripjaws...  wub.gif mine chapalang color, eyes painful when stare at d transparent windows.  doh.gif
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Yes naise, veli naise indeed, but all looks but no show also not naise too sweat.gif
Anyway the GU fits nicely with ur mobo theme color what brows.gif

BTW bro:
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post Nov 30 2010, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 30 2010, 05:22 PM)
Maybe not.Because i see at newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...20II%20X4%20970

It is quite cheap..around RM 600.You can buy it from our forumer service.(Via newegg > his house > your house)
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Not worth it i think, price toooo close to a X6 1055T, mite as well go true 6 cores with no temp probe issues laugh.gif

QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 30 2010, 06:36 PM)
Omgee just check SLS/pctheme pricelist, x6 price dropped so much doh.gif
1090T now only 329, but i forgot the price when the first launch, 4xx something right?

Aiya play till sien ed, thinking selling away my mobo liao lol sweat.gif
or hold unltill bulldozer come out lol/
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Aiya, just use it lah, i think 6 cores + ur good mobo can last u untill bulldozer launch alredy, not like ur using an ancient Sempron there laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Dec 1 2010, 04:54 AM

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QUOTE(iori57 @ Dec 1 2010, 12:47 AM)
Thanks for replying! happy.gif

so does it mean that my current AMD processor not able to reach 2000mhz even with overclock?
how to check if it is supported by the mobo? if i use ratio of 1:4 with fsb 250mhz it says that the effective ram freq is 2000mhz.. however from what i read on the net, you could only achieve 2000mhz if you overclock your mobo to 4.3ghz like that... which I don't understand because my processor now only 3.5ghz also can reach? or is it we cannot use the ratio of 1:4, but have to use 1:3.33 instead? (which makes sense because if 3.33 is used instead, means i have to increase my FSB till 300, 300x3.33x2 = 2000mhz and processor will be clocked at 300 x 14 = 4.2ghz ? correct me if wrong...)

thanks for the tip for memory timings smile.gif
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For AMD cpu's u need PSC chips on ur ram to be able to reach 2000mhz, with ram what works on Intel doesn't really equates the same on amd.. sweat.gif
IMO not all rams can use those higher ram divider hmm.gif
U never mention ur other settings for ur oc, what is ur CPU-NB speed? Did u also pump in a bit of extra volt to ur IMC/cpu-nb?
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post Dec 1 2010, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(verdict @ Dec 1 2010, 12:40 PM)
i get a worst result in wPrime version 2.04...even with a higer clock speed... shakehead.gif
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WTH?? Must be inhell conspiracy, illuminati, freemason vmad.gif mad.gif laugh.gif

Jokes aside, kinda make u wonder what changes in that version to make the result worser hmm.gif
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post Dec 1 2010, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(verdict @ Dec 1 2010, 01:42 PM)
Ya Ya...make me wondering what the hell did they add...urmm...

i was lazy to google around thou' biggrin.gif

How you guys doing? i seldom surfing now days...haishh... cry.gif
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We're ok, still the same, got myself an early christmas gift from my unker sayang, something badass, something with teeth wub.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Dec 1 2010, 02:01 PM)
a quote from techpowerup  smile.gif
sos pedas: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=77369

guess 2.04 is d "improved" version of 1.55.  nod.gif
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What "improvement" do they put when u get a much worst score than the old one sweat.gif

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Dec 1 2010, 04:11 PM)
I think the "improvement" meaning is,they make the score becomes harder.

Maybe just like 3DMark06 > 3dMark Vantage..Something like that.Thats why the score lower.
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Hahaha, yup kinda agree with that laugh.gif
Hopefully thru time it wouldn't be like Unigine benchmark, the program becoming more & more one sided, making one brand looking like a supastar & the other like some useless chap sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Dec 1 2010, 05:03 PM)
I dont know why they like to make "intel" sided in benchmark which makes it hard to compare doh.gif
so cloudwan,can you confirm it is really my mobo prob?
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If u already try with other cpu & still cannot then it surely means ur mobo is faulty, sorry for that bro, my condolences sweat.gif

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Dec 1 2010, 09:51 PM)
applicable on intel only hor, not amd which sucks in ram mileage.
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Agree, max that a thuban die can go so far is 2k but with a lowly cas 9 timings sweat.gif
Not that sweet to me, better stick with 1.6k with lower timings like that, hopefully will see a lot of improvement with bulldozer, u know with native 1866mhz support brows.gif

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Dec 2 2010, 12:26 AM)
@ bro cloudwan, cas7 @ high freq failed. this is what i managed so far...  sad.gif
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No worries, can't ask much with amd i'd say, lain lah u stick it into an ai series system from inhell tongue.gif
Take ur time bro smile.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Dec 2 2010, 10:57 AM)
~2.5k is doable bro, but not stable ofcoz. i'd say ~2.2k is possible w great pcs sticks like flare if coupled w a chip with great imc. but sadly imc capability differs from chip to chip, so it's really down to luck sometimes.  smile.gif

1.6k @ cas 6 baru cantik... cas 7 abit loose, need kacip fatima...  tongue.gif joke aside, it doesn't matter that much for 24/7 setting, as long as d pair can run relatively low volt @ decent timing will do. gaming experience doesn't affected much by ram timing, don't really understand why some manufacturers like to go brandin their ram as gaming series or whatsnot. markettin gimmicks @ its best?  tongue.gif as for bulldozer, i dun think i'll go as far as that. thuban will be my last platform b4 my retirement...  nod.gif

my condolences to d dead hdd... samsung hdd not that good after all eh? rclxs0.gif
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Hahahaha, its true if ur lucky u will find a good chip with a gud IMC like ur old 1055T, if ur not sweat.gif
Just like the ripjaws right? Also put there gaming ram tho i don't see how it will help me get better FPS with it laugh.gif
Don't talk about retiring lah bro, remember we are cureless tongue.gif

Yup i hardly used the hdd and after 3 months its dead sweat.gif Never face that problem b4 with WD, haihhhhh, can't do much now already bought so have to face it, luckily i didn't store any important data in it sweat.gif

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