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post Nov 26 2010, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Nov 26 2010, 04:57 PM)
Lol see la boss. I ain't the only one who says that. I'll tell you girls will say the same thing.
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LV sudah attacked him lol.
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post Nov 26 2010, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(ijnek @ Nov 26 2010, 05:14 PM)
avatar is 1 or 2 mths back.....

personally, i'm very afraid of my weight going up...

ya...LV says she will catch up with me soon or later
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If ur diet is right, u wont put on that much fat buddy. After my cutting, i have the same phobia as u lol, just go with feeling, if u r putting on fat then u tune ur diet may be lower carbs or watsoever that may help. I m doing carb cycle, for my case if i not gaining weight i add in high carbs day, if i gaining fat then i cut down on my high carbs day, simple tongue.gif
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post Nov 27 2010, 06:03 PM

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post Dec 1 2010, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Nov 30 2010, 11:17 PM)
Lemme improvise on this. Too many people are too quick to label themselves as hardgainers. They don't eat enough, or if they eat enough, they go on the wrong program. Over the years of working out, imo, any so called bodybuilding oriented program which has planned calculated poundages is inherently flawed.

Our bodies all have mood swings, sometimes it's one of those dog days where you just don't have it in you to go super heavy. So what happens when they try to hit that targeted poundage? Injury, demoralization, demotivation, etc. Resetting poundages back 2 workouts or whatever they want to call it, it still boils down to the same principle. Listen to your body.

It's really that simple, it's not rocket science, period. I'm sure chicaman knows this, I definitely know this since we've both trained at Terry's gym regularly at some time or the other. And chicaman, your progress is phenomenal just listening to what Terry touts, again, listening to your body. Good job.
Btw, I met up with pedro for shisha just now, he gained size, not bad.
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Totally agree, been there done that and only regret when i sprain my neck and tilting my head side ways for 2 days lol. Not everyday a stella day, your body will tell u when u need to go easy and when u got to rage the dam iron.
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post Dec 1 2010, 08:47 PM

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Great post in bb.com sticky

QUOTE(JOHN GARGANI;337924761)
we get so many threads on here where  people list their various workout programs, or, where they complain that a certain bodypart is not growing and then list their current program and rep and set configurations......


fine.....but I love when people use expressions like:  " I throw in a couple of sets of lateral raises", for example, and then wonder why their lateral delts are not growing. 

or better yet, so clean and neat:  " I do 3 sets of this, and 3 sets of that " etc., as If it were a homework assignment!

here is an interesting quote from WIKIPEDIA on Training:






the first thing I highlighted was SPECIFIC GOALS:   just what ARE your goals??  to get bigger, regardless of stronger, to get stronger, regardless of bigger, to get defined, regardless of size,  to get bigger AND defined...etc......

I also highlighted CAPACITY:  Training involves improving or increasing capacity.

meaning:  if you are doing a neat little tidy program, where you "throw in "   3 sets of lateral raises, then what makes you think they are ever going to grow...

why should they???  what is the impetus, what is the forcing issue that makes the body WANT to prioritize them?


(please, keep in mind, that I am just using one muscle as an example)


So: with that in mind, why couldn't you do 5 sets, or 6 sets or whatever, in this case, of the lateral raises....or, why couldn't you do a pyramid styled workout similar to what you might do in benching.....

if you want a bigger chest, do you "throw in"  3 sets of benches for 8 sets each???   The guys who have built some really truly deep and big chests have POUNDED THE LIVING SHITE OUT OF THEM with benching, earlier on, or still now.....

what makes people think that only works for one particular exercise??

My point, and it just comes around to an old rant of mine, resurrected again, is that once you start thinking in terms of a regimented written down, cross off the list, check off the boxes approach to bodybuilding, you are already self limiting yourself, and holding yourself back....

if you are TRAINING, then you are out to also improve your capacity, and for one workout, or several workouts, that might mean simply doing more of something else....and why?? for no other reason than 3 sets might simply NOT be enough to stimulate a weak bodypart......


a variation of this is when people will come on here and say:  "  give me another exercise for lateral delts, because I already did 3 sets of those".....

but I say:  If you are getting a GREAT mind muscle connection with that movement, why move on to anything else???  instead of trying something else, which may not really hit that bodypart as well FOR YOU, why not simply DO MORE of what is working well for your body......


but if you are going to say  "  but I have already done what I was SUPPOSED to do in the workout plan", then forget about it, because in that case, I would have to say  F@#$ the plan and F@#$ the horse it rode in on!

NEVER LEAVE AN EXERCISE IF YOU ARE GETTING GREAT MIND MUSCLE CONNECTION FROM IT AND ARE DOING GREAT AND MEANINGFUL REPS!!


don't worry if you "Leave out" something else that was "planned"...so what??

what would you rather do, some meaningless and pointless exhausted sets of whatever, at the end of a workout, or more sets of a movement where YOU ARE COOKING??!!

never be a slave to a written routine.....your body will tell you, every workout, what the routine should be.....

if you are simply NOT connecting to a certain exercise on a given night, then by all means, don't beat a dead horse and move on, but conversely, don't leave it if you are grooving on it.....

and don't worry about doing more sets than you were supposed to at the end, because, as I said, if we are "TRAINING" we are looking to increase some sort of capacity somewhere along the line at all times.....


going back to the Wikipedia quote: don't "DABBLE"....don't do 3 sets of everything all neat and pretty....do what you HAVE TO DO to get the job done......improve your capability and capacity and performance....in a word:     TRAIN!!!!!!




Source link: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=116726611

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lol, i have all the discount criteria. but dam, why it got to be in timesquare ><
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post Dec 3 2010, 10:02 AM

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Love to add on to the rule: Only metal and rock music allowed, Emo is not rock.
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post Dec 4 2010, 10:59 AM

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Great post for GI for carbs, solid food vs liquid and when to take them.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_articl...index_revisited
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post Dec 4 2010, 09:24 PM

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The rest is a joke for him sad.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 3 2010, 11:30 AM)
Lol that happened to me. The guy was jamis' acquaintance. Got a nice telling off from me.
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I think i know who is tat XD
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post Dec 5 2010, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Dec 5 2010, 08:48 PM)
Lol now he doesn't approach me anymore. WTF I was about to do lay pulldowns and he stands beside me asking about the side effects of tribulus which his friend is suffering from, some
nipple enlargement. It was infuriating man.
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hahahaha, hopefully is the friend.

My case was with the trainer, i was half way through my lateral raise, he come and approach me ask me to buy lipo 6x, i pretend i didnt c him. Dayum.
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post Dec 12 2010, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Dec 12 2010, 06:39 PM)
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Some shopping.
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at least 800 there? hehe

by the way, the dark matter, is tat the NO?
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post Dec 12 2010, 10:43 PM

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Ah... thats good that good, coz from bb.com, ppl gave quite an awful response to the dark matter N.O's taste lol.

Dam man, i m thinking of MRP + Posworkout whey too XD


By the way, went to Giza's TF, not bad just that the place might be abit small. And the follow are wat i observed:-

1 squat rack
2 smith machine
plates that come with 25kg!
lifefitness dumbell and barbell -- the grip are alot bigger than startrac (jaya 33 TF)
The empty barbell feel lighter than the one in jaya.
1 decline, 1 incline and 1 flat bench press.

Overall, it seems good, not sure how is it when the crowd builds up.


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post Dec 13 2010, 04:41 PM

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But most of the time i read from the experience from the pro, steroid is just for final touch up and u will eventually lose the mass u gained from steroid when u stop using it.

and cocooh, u know if it is the wrong ans then search again la =.=


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post Dec 16 2010, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Dec 16 2010, 11:28 AM)
Insider info. Nyek nyek nyek =)
Sure got, just ask them to check with HQ or read their emails.

All ELP items are off 30% til end of Dec. Nitrotech is about 260+... that is if anyone here still succumbs to Muscletech's marketing power.
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I went to GNC jaya33 last week to get my vitamin c, few of the items are on 30% sales too, like ON pro complex, Synta 6, true mass and those GNC mass gainer but ON 10lbs is still the same.
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post Jan 6 2011, 04:09 PM

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semangat betul lol.
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post Jan 11 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(zeke'stah @ Jan 11 2011, 11:13 AM)
haha..alright. thanks bro.  biggrin.gif
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UNISA? they do have a decent gym in the city east campus (not far away from ur city west campus), just get lots of beef and cook it by urself at home.

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post Jan 11 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(zeke'stah @ Jan 11 2011, 02:16 PM)
thanks man. i'm studying in the city east campuse... biggrin.gif  have u been to their gym? are they well equipped?
I have been to city east's gym for only few time, my campus is in Mawson lake, so most of the time i m using the gym there but just for few month and i moved to city and i join the fitness first there.

The one in City east i would say its not bad, cant really remember wat they have exactly but they do have the basic equipment (squat rack, dumbbells, benches and barbell) , i think u can join the monthly membership.

May be u can share ur diet with us, its easier to pin point the issue smile.gif cheers.

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post Jan 11 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(zeke'stah @ Jan 11 2011, 04:00 PM)
cool man..  biggrin.gif  how much do u pay for fitness first?? 

my diet...argh... 4 meals a day.. the basic rice and vege and meat. i try to eat as much meat as i can though.  hmm...i'm not on protein shakes... what would  be an aprropriate meal?
there was some joining charges tat i cant really remember but monthly i paid 66aud. It charges through ur eftpos monthly, dun need cc, quite a nice gym.

my meal plan:

0600 - 60g of oat + 6-8 eggs (only 1 yolk)
>0715 - workout (bcaa)
0815 - postworkout - 150g carbs from glucagon + 1 - 1.5 scoop of whey
0930 - brown rice with meat or wholemeal bread with chicken or sweet potato with meat
1300 - eatting out. Lots of vege and meat and very little rice
1630 - protein shake (cant really go out and buy food so protein is a easier source for me) + sunflower seed
2000 - Chicken with edamame or 4 - 5 whole eggs. No carbs on this meal.
2200 - sleep

Try to jack up ur meal to 5 meals a day, protein supplement is not really magical (just tat sometime fast release protein helps a lil on ur postworkout but if u consumed enough protein everyday, u still can grow) and it is not the main factor that gives u muscle, its the food that u consume throughout the day that makes u grow.


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post Jan 11 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(zeke'stah @ Jan 11 2011, 04:27 PM)
thanks man!  but i have studies and all too...it'll be pretty hard to keep to that kinda diet... T_T
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Tats wat i did as well when i was studying, cook every 3 hours or cook in a bulk and eat the same thing throughout the day lol.

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