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Investment SETAPAK GREEN RESIDENCES by UOA, Your Enclave for Refresh Living

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post Oct 22 2010, 12:18 PM

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Many have made their opinion clear that they are disapointed with uoa handling of setapak green, that include me, but what done is done, and let's focus on how uoa can deliver to the expectation, especially when the official launch, and final deliveries.

As for kp, I agree that developer and main con plays diff roles, for the benefit of doubts, let's give kp a break and trust them to be good.
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post Oct 22 2010, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 22 2010, 12:18 PM)
Many have made their opinion clear that they are disapointed with uoa handling of setapak green, that include me, but what done is done, and let's focus on how uoa can deliver to the expectation, especially when the official launch, and final deliveries.

As for kp, I agree that developer and main con plays diff roles, for the benefit of doubts, let's give kp a break and trust them to be good.
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yes. now timing is the most important factor in making decision earlier or later. 2 months later, no one will know the consequences of most unit in 288 being taken up by public or just u grab a better unit in SG.


Added on October 22, 2010, 1:18 pm
QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:01 PM)
All the above mentioned should be met by $$$. lol

Be prepared to pay more for maintenance fees and sinking funds before you're expecting much more better upkeep.

288 and 222 - first two years maintenace fee will be charged at RM0.15 per sq ft. third year unknown.

222 units of average size of 1,000 sq ft each, should be 222,000 sq ft x 0.15 = RM33,300
I'm not sure RM33,300 enough to cover the utility bills, landscaping, garden, swimming pool maintenance, guards' fee, property manager, clerk, plumber & etc.
for new condo, it should be ok...said
utilities bills one month = RM5,000,
guards' fee                = RM9,000 (6 persons for 3 shifts *haha RM1,500 each salary to new grad* allowance for good one),
Gardener/upkeeper      = RM2,000 (2 persons)
Clerk                        = RM1,200 (1 person)
Plumber                    = RM1,500 ( 1 person)
Property Manager        = RM5,000 (1 person)
Swimming pool, safety equipment, lifts and building inspection, garbage collection and etc regular checking said RM3,000 per month

total RM25,700

seem like still got extra ya.
UOA - maintenance fee (anyone can share?)
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Sorry, i just read back the information and would like to share with you guys.

I have a property from UOA too. We are the committe who was taking over from UOA. They really bullshit as they have not install the fire safety in the building and we (commitee) have to pay for much more fire insurance and we need to increase the maintainance fees to residents. Sommore, they said the sinking fund and mainatainance fees is not sufficient at all to pay in the compound. so what i want to deliver is their maintainance is the same like other said if KP cant do as good as UOA. well, be fair, just voice out for those may not encounter with UOA before.

This post has been edited by carlhoe: Oct 22 2010, 01:18 PM
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post Oct 22 2010, 02:25 PM

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Carlhoe: Wow - that is surprising! But I don't really understand what you mean by "fire safety" - like hose reel, fire extinguisher, etc? These are authority requirements - all developers need to include these things in, if not they cannot get CF.

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post Oct 22 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 22 2010, 08:57 AM)
How much psf is bangsar south park ressidence?

Expectation achived = reputation increase.
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Bangsarsouth prices very much lower than SG when they launch.


Added on October 22, 2010, 4:44 pm
QUOTE(carlhoe @ Oct 22 2010, 12:53 PM)
yes. now timing is the most important factor in making decision earlier or later. 2 months later, no one will know the consequences of most unit in 288 being taken up by public or just u grab a better unit in SG.

I agree on this point. What happens for a buyer that is considering 288 and SG, but decides to try out SG. 2 months later, UOA give inferior specs, the buyer will miss buying good units in 288.


Added on October 22, 2010, 4:47 pm
QUOTE(carlhoe @ Oct 22 2010, 12:53 PM)

Sorry, i just read back the information and would like to share with you guys.

I have a property from UOA too. We are the committe who was taking over from UOA. They really bullshit as they have not install the fire safety in the building and we (commitee) have to pay for much more fire insurance and we need to increase the maintainance fees to residents. Sommore, they said the sinking fund and mainatainance fees is not sufficient at all to pay in the compound. so what i want to deliver is their maintainance is the same like other said if KP cant do as good as UOA. well, be fair, just voice out for those may not encounter with UOA before.
This point need to be more factual as it may sound be a bit slanderous.

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post Oct 22 2010, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 22 2010, 04:41 PM)
Bangsarsouth prices very much lower than SG when they launch.


Added on October 22, 2010, 4:44 pm
I agree on this point.  What happens for a buyer that is considering 288 and SG, but decides to try out SG.  2 months later, UOA give inferior specs, the buyer will miss buying good units in 288.


Added on October 22, 2010, 4:47 pm
This point need to be more factual as it may sound be a bit slanderous.
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I believe we have to take responsibility to our own decisions made, if u decided to wait out for SG but turn out, missing out on 288, we have our self to question. The uncertainties and opportunities cost is part of the risk that we have to bear.

People need not only express their opinions, but please justify the points, so that it doesn't sounds too bias.

Also, bashing on UOA won't get the problem solve and undo the damage, give constructive feedback please. U may not agree with me, but I believe that is the right things to do.

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post Oct 22 2010, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 22 2010, 05:43 PM)
I believe we have to take responsibility to our own decisions made, if u decided to wait out for SG but turn out, missing out on 288, we have our self to question. The uncertainties and opportunities cost is part of the risk that we have to bear.

I do not disagree with you on your point of view. However, my statement point to the basis that UOA is pre launching a product without proper approvals, specs, design which can be very misleading to buyers. Buyers trust in good faith what is said by the SA due to the reputation of UOA. They then made comparison with 288 and decide their booking.

However along the way, the design changes (even from day 1 to day 2), finishing now uncertain as Bangsarsouth benchmark may not be expected, and of late, there will be a major design change to unit 1 and 16. Don't know how much more changes before it is finalized. If the final product is far more superior than 288, it is OK, but what if it turns out worst than expected? We are buying a house and not punting our luck. This is my unbiased view so far.

So to UOA, please buck up and proof what is said here is wrong by delivering a greater product.





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post Oct 22 2010, 10:51 PM

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So to UOA, please buck up and proof what is said here is wrong by delivering a greater product.


Concur. Edit: yeh, post 100 rclxms.gif

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post Oct 23 2010, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 21 2010, 08:46 PM)

I will try to compare another thread for SG vs 288 Deathmatch.


Cannot find this thread. Where is it?
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post Oct 23 2010, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 23 2010, 09:00 AM)
Cannot find this thread.  Where is it?
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HAHHA havent work on it.
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post Oct 23 2010, 03:21 PM

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Is Setapak Green condo or only an apartment? From the facilities, it has only swimming pool and some basic facilities like gym. No tennis courts, squash court and others. Even Genting Court Apartment (look like low cost apartment now) nearby have swimming pool, 2 tennis courts and a clubhouse. IOI is launching in Puchong soon apartments with swimming pool and clubhouse. Subang Goodyear court apartments also have swimming pool and clubhouse. Is this something buyers have been misled as condo but actually a good mid cost apartment only? I am not referring in particular SG but also 288 and other development as well.
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post Oct 23 2010, 10:25 PM

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today i going the site there,UOA already put the office at there ...but not sure when they open lo....
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post Oct 23 2010, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cannon1314 @ Oct 21 2010, 11:30 PM)
i thinks 1480sq.ft is 3A or 05 izit?
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post Oct 23 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Cannon1314 @ Oct 23 2010, 10:25 PM)
today i going the site there,UOA already put the office at there ...but not sure when they open lo....
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Glad to hear that, keep everyone posted if there's any updates


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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 23 2010, 03:21 PM)
Is Setapak Green condo or only an apartment?  From the facilities, it has only swimming pool and some basic facilities like gym.  No tennis courts, squash court and others.  Even Genting Court Apartment (look like low cost apartment now) nearby have swimming pool, 2 tennis courts and a clubhouse.  IOI is launching in Puchong soon apartments with swimming pool and clubhouse. Subang Goodyear court apartments also have swimming pool and clubhouse. Is this something buyers have been misled as condo but actually a good mid cost apartment only?  I am not referring in particular SG but also 288 and other development as well.
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hmm.... facilities..... im not sure with the others, tennis court and squash seems to be kind of redundant because seldom anyone playing them, even if there's any, it will be the minorities. Also, not to forget the cost of keeping up these facilities. to me, simple facilities such as swimming pool, gym or even sauna, will be much preferred by the majority. What for having a ping pong table if majority of them never play pingpong.

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post Oct 24 2010, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(sunnie3138 @ Oct 23 2010, 11:01 PM)
Yep
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Sunnie you have took 1?
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post Oct 24 2010, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 23 2010, 03:21 PM)
Is Setapak Green condo or only an apartment?  From the facilities, it has only swimming pool and some basic facilities like gym.  No tennis courts, squash court and others.  Even Genting Court Apartment (look like low cost apartment now) nearby have swimming pool, 2 tennis courts and a clubhouse.  IOI is launching in Puchong soon apartments with swimming pool and clubhouse. Subang Goodyear court apartments also have swimming pool and clubhouse. Is this something buyers have been misled as condo but actually a good mid cost apartment only?  I am not referring in particular SG but also 288 and other development as well.
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the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.

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post Oct 24 2010, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:45 AM)
there more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.
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Maybe SG & 288 can share some common facilities.... rclxms.gif

At least i knew 222 get swimming pool view from SG

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post Oct 24 2010, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:48 AM)
Maybe SG & 288 can share some common facilities....  rclxms.gif

At least i knew 222 get swimming pool view from SG
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222 got indoor swimming pool....i belive some SG's units can get the view to it...LOL...

samething, 222 units can get the views of SG's landscape park and also the ground outdoor swimming pool.

LOL
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:45 AM)
the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.
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I agree with you on the usage and practicability for the facilities. However, one of my friends wanting to rent out his condo in Bangsarsouth to an expat , but was turned down because the facilities is only having swimming pool, gym, and a mini sauna. For the same price, most of the luxurious condo, have in addition, tennis courts and squash at least. These facilities are usually taken away because developer could save more costs or make more $$.

What I am trying to imply here is that the more facilities available, the higher is the perceived value of the condo for both rental or resale.

No one agree to this?


Added on October 24, 2010, 7:01 am
QUOTE(kh8668 @ Oct 24 2010, 01:45 AM)
the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.
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PV got tennis and squash courts or not?


Added on October 24, 2010, 7:03 am
QUOTE(Cannon1314 @ Oct 23 2010, 10:25 PM)
today i going the site there,UOA already put the office at there ...but not sure when they open lo....
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Ready or not? So fast?


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QUOTE(Cannon1314 @ Oct 24 2010, 12:36 AM)
Sunnie you have took 1?
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Maybe many more. tongue.gif

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post Oct 24 2010, 09:14 AM

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hahah. im new to all this property thing, thats one thing im very curious, here's the question:

i've seen alot of new launch they have drawings to shows "proposed Tesco",or proposed new entrance, how do we check the validity and feasibility behind it?

I've seen one in 288 drawings, where proposed tesco at platinum area there, so is just just marketing trick? or they really knew something that we public do not know, or we public too can simply find it out with a few phone calls?

Last buy not least, should i create another thread for this?

ok, i 've decided to make a new one @ http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1611823 - How to check the opportunity?, Proposed Tesco? Proposed flyover?

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post Oct 24 2010, 02:47 PM

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Just read the latest article of The Edge. UOA in the article about Bangsar South, makes reference to Setapak Green and Plaza Prima as apartment projects while, Prima Setapak and Prima Setapak II, Bangsar South Park Residence as Condo projects. So just wonder how UOA classify Condos and Apartments. Wonder what to expect on the specs now.

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