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VIOS VS FORTE 1.6, VIOS VS FORTE 1.6
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eddie_al
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Oct 6 2010, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 6 2010, 10:52 AM) Its like shooting your own foot u know? Resale value will be poor since its Naza and if sale numbers dont improveThe word 'will be' is quite different from 'is'. It shows something happening in the future so it cant be a fact as ure trying to imply. Plus again ive stated its sales figures which affect the resale value among others. Try harder my friend. Ure clearly not cut out to be a lawyer. please don't change subject. you want to talk about the grammar status of "will be" now? if that's how you want to say it, the correct term would have been "might be". please, stop being defensive.
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cybermaster98
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Oct 6 2010, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(eddie_al @ Oct 6 2010, 10:57 AM) please don't change subject. you want to talk about the grammar status of "will be" now? if that's how you want to say it, the correct term would have been "might be". please, stop being defensive. My arguments have always been constant in case u havent noticed. I just love guys like you who try so hard to find fault in my arguments and yet fail. When will u understand that u cannot win against someone without real facts? If u wanna quote someone, kindly do it with the whole sentence. Else ull just get fried like whats happening now. Still wanna argue? Well try harder. This is becoming a yawn.
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eddie_al
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Oct 6 2010, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 6 2010, 11:01 AM) My arguments have always been constant in case u havent noticed. I just love guys like you who try so hard to find fault in my arguments and yet fail. When will u understand that u cannot win against someone without real facts? If u wanna quote someone, kindly do it with the whole sentence. Else ull just get fried like whats happening now. Still wanna argue? Well try harder. This is becoming a yawn.  i quote your whole post unless you so conviniently overlook it.
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cybermaster98
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Oct 6 2010, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Oct 6 2010, 02:03 PM) Yup there will be defects in every manufacturing field. Just that how lucky you are not to get a lemon car. I agree with you on that. But then again my friend was the person who suffered from the product defects and it is considered unlucky to toyota to lost a customer (my friend) trust. Well i would have reacted in the same way had it been me. So its fair. Hope he has better luck next time.
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chastise
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Oct 6 2010, 06:00 PM
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It's too early to judge Forte's resale value as it's still quite new in the market so no point making speculations that it will have poor resale value. I just don't understand, why people care so much about resale value? Buy a car, enjoy the experience of driving. If you care so much about resale value, get a bicycle or a motorcycle. Seriously, enjoy the comfort and experience of driving.
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pooh88
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Oct 6 2010, 06:06 PM
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How bout Forte spare is it affordable if u need to replace it? Compare to Vios the spare parts u can get everywhere & at the reasonable price. Every car sure got pros & cons see how u look at it.
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Pogostik
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Oct 6 2010, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Oct 6 2010, 06:00 PM) It's too early to judge Forte's resale value as it's still quite new in the market so no point making speculations that it will have poor resale value. I just don't understand, why people care so much about resale value? Buy a car, enjoy the experience of driving. If you care so much about resale value, get a bicycle or a motorcycle. Seriously, enjoy the comfort and experience of driving. +1
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keeting89
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Oct 6 2010, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Oct 6 2010, 06:00 PM) It's too early to judge Forte's resale value as it's still quite new in the market so no point making speculations that it will have poor resale value. I just don't understand, why people care so much about resale value? Buy a car, enjoy the experience of driving. If you care so much about resale value, get a bicycle or a motorcycle. Seriously, enjoy the comfort and experience of driving. NAZA will put more efforts on 207 in near future.. so, no doubt, Forte will drop instantaneous.. Added on October 6, 2010, 6:38 pmFor me i don like forte.. But between vios and forte.. no choice but have to pick forte.. =) This post has been edited by keeting89: Oct 6 2010, 06:38 PM
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chastise
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Oct 6 2010, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Oct 6 2010, 06:36 PM) NAZA will put more efforts on 207 in near future.. so, no doubt, Forte will drop instantaneous..
I don't understand what's the relevance on this. Peugeot 207 is B-segment and Forte is C-segment. AND how will the effort affect the resale value of forte?
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chastise
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Oct 6 2010, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(nazri_aziz @ Oct 6 2010, 10:09 PM) too early? forte=no resale value dont you get it? if you suggest to get a bicycle or motorcycle instead of car then i suggest you to just go take public transport, better. seriously, buying car is not your option if you didnt consider resale value. How sure are you? Well, I bought my car without thinking of resale value. Thus, I'm driving continental, better drive, better build, more gadgets. So you will be stuck in your Jap car world for the rest of your life.
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thken
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Oct 6 2010, 10:24 PM
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in terms of realibily you can't go wrong with toyota
but if you prefer better handling, interior and comfort then you got to choose forte lo
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keeting89
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Oct 6 2010, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Oct 6 2010, 09:28 PM) I don't understand what's the relevance on this. Peugeot 207 is B-segment and Forte is C-segment. AND how will the effort affect the resale value of forte? For sure, NAZA will promote heavily on coming Peugeot 207.. For sure sales of forte will decrease la.. as resale value determined by the number of cars in that region.. wont u think it'll be affected? And the forte sale is worst than proton, surely the resale value worst than proton.. B-seg or C-seg.. This is Malaysia.. u think ppl will wow at u when u driving forte or honda city? If u are smart buyer that comapred seg to seg.. the most value for money all will go to proton.. am i wrong? This post has been edited by keeting89: Oct 6 2010, 10:53 PM
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chastise
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Oct 6 2010, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Oct 6 2010, 10:53 PM) For sure, NAZA will promote heavily on coming Peugeot 207.. For sure sales of forte will decrease la.. as resale value determined by the number of cars in that region.. wont u think it'll be affected? And the forte sale is worst than proton, surely the resale value worst than proton.. B-seg or C-seg.. This is Malaysia.. u think ppl will wow at u when u driving forte or honda city? If u are smart buyer that comapred seg to seg.. the most value for money all will go to proton.. am i wrong? Do you know that Peugeot is under NASIM and Naza Kia is two different company altogether? It's Naza group subsidiaries so they will have different marketing strategies. How will it affect forte at all? FYI you will have no idea on the resale value when the car is so new. Unless you can predict the future. It doesn't make sense that Nasim Peugeot releasing 207 will contribute to Forte's resale value. Chevrolet is under Naza Group as well, has their marketing for Cruze affect forte's resale value? Show me how is forte's resale value worst that proton since you are so sure about it?
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keeting89
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Oct 6 2010, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(chastise @ Oct 6 2010, 11:20 PM) Do you know that Peugeot is under NASIM and Naza Kia is two different company altogether? It's Naza group subsidiaries so they will have different marketing strategies. How will it affect forte at all? FYI you will have no idea on the resale value when the car is so new. Unless you can predict the future. It doesn't make sense that Nasim Peugeot releasing 207 will contribute to Forte's resale value. Chevrolet is under Naza Group as well, has their marketing for Cruze affect forte's resale value? Show me how is forte's resale value worst that proton since you are so sure about it? Drop 10k in a year.. RP 81k now 70k [don forget this is used car stil can be negotiated!!!!!!!!!!] http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+1+6+SX+Auto+...+09-7291504.htmis it good phenomenan? Forte release in M'sia not even 1 year.. it should be end of december.. so 10month drop 10k..=)
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chastise
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Oct 6 2010, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Oct 6 2010, 11:48 PM) Drop 10k in a year.. RP 81k now 70k [don forget this is used car stil can be negotiated!!!!!!!!!!] http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+1+6+SX+Auto+...+09-7291504.htmis it good phenomenan? Forte release in M'sia not even 1 year.. it should be end of december.. so 10month drop 10k..=) Do you know that all cars depreciate about 10-15% in their first year even Vios? Go do a better research before you start replying.
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keeting89
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Oct 7 2010, 12:04 AM
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http://www.mudah.my/Honda+city+1+5+v+tec-6777827.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/Honda+City+1+5+i+VTEC+...eat-7317334.htm84k-79k=5k.. sorry..they might be mistaken.. i shouldnt comment much since i din do much of research.. Added on October 7, 2010, 12:07 amQUOTE(keeting89 @ Oct 6 2010, 11:48 PM) Drop 10k in a year.. RP 81k now 70k [don forget this is used car stil can be negotiated!!!!!!!!!!] http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+1+6+SX+Auto+...+09-7291504.htmis it good phenomenan? Forte release in M'sia not even 1 year.. it should be end of december.. so 10month drop 10k..=) or else u r blind.. not even 1 year stated there.. adui.. hard to communicate with ur .. maybe ur house full of korean car that y ur so expert into it.. I don drive korean car i dunno much so sorry.. Can i ask whar car u drive? This post has been edited by keeting89: Oct 7 2010, 12:09 AM
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chastise
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Oct 7 2010, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Oct 7 2010, 12:04 AM) http://www.mudah.my/Honda+city+1+5+v+tec-6777827.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/Honda+City+1+5+i+VTEC+...eat-7317334.htm84k-79k=5k.. sorry..they might be mistaken.. i shouldnt comment much since i din do much of research.. Added on October 7, 2010, 12:07 amor else u r blind.. not even 1 year stated there.. adui.. hard to communicate with ur .. maybe ur house full of korean car that y ur so expert into it.. I don drive korean car i dunno much so sorry.. Hello friend, told u to do research properly. That's City E-spec which costs 90k not S. 84k is for S-spec. Kid, I think you better go study for your degree rather than wasting time trying to correct your mistakes. Nope, my house full of continental cars which i dont think u have any.
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Taipan052
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Oct 7 2010, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Oct 6 2010, 11:48 PM) Drop 10k in a year.. RP 81k now 70k [don forget this is used car stil can be negotiated!!!!!!!!!!] http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+1+6+SX+Auto+...+09-7291504.htmis it good phenomenan? Forte release in M'sia not even 1 year.. it should be end of december.. so 10month drop 10k..=) car dealer never bother bout when u bough the car. if less than 1 year also consider 1 year lah. aiyoooo http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+vios+s+spec+1+5...+09-6408652.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Vios+1+5+S+Spec...ond-7168059.htmoriginal vios s price = rm88K 2nd hand value = rm75K drop in value for only 1 year  = rm13K
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keeting89
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Oct 7 2010, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Oct 7 2010, 12:16 AM) car dealer never bother bout when u bough the car. if less than 1 year also consider 1 year lah. aiyoooo http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+vios+s+spec+1+5...+09-6408652.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Vios+1+5+S+Spec...ond-7168059.htmoriginal vios s price = rm88K 2nd hand value = rm75K drop in value for only 1 year  = rm13K  but then i believe vios stil have re-sale value after 5 years.. which is around 55k +/- If forte can make it.. i'm glad to hear.. Added on October 7, 2010, 12:27 amQUOTE(chastise @ Oct 6 2010, 10:16 PM) How sure are you? Well, I bought my car without thinking of resale value. Thus, I'm driving continental, better drive, better build, more gadgets. So you will be stuck in your Jap car world for the rest of your life. that's disadvatages using real name as nick .. haha.. hero behind the keyboard? This post has been edited by keeting89: Oct 7 2010, 12:27 AM
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chastise
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Oct 7 2010, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Oct 7 2010, 12:26 AM) but then i believe vios stil have re-sale value after 5 years.. which is around 55k +/- If forte can make it.. i'm glad to hear.. Added on October 7, 2010, 12:27 amthat's disadvatages using real name as nick .. haha.. hero behind the keyboard?  There's a reason why we said it's too early to judge. Now you making 5 years comparison when just then you gave us example of 1 year.
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