Newly married couple killed in car crash

GEORGE TOWN: A teenage couple, married in January this year, were killed in an accident at Km2.2 of the Penang Bridge here on Sunday.

Car accessories salesman Teh Boh Yi, 19, and shop assistant Khor Lee Mui, 17, died of head injuries while their three friends, who were travelling with them in the car, have been warded at Penang Hospital.

One of the friends, contract worker Lee Choo Hoe, 17, was thrown out of the car and landed in the sea. Marine police rescued him two hours later.

Police said Teh, the driver of the Nissan Livina, tried to switch lanes when he lost control of the car which hit the railings at 11.30pm.

The car then swerved to the middle of the road and a lorry loaded with vegetables rammed into it from behind, Penang Traffic Operations chief Deputy Supt Abdul Rahim bin Md. Din said.

Lee said he could not remember what happened. "I was unconscious when I was thrown out of the car and woke up to find myself in the sea. I managed to cling onto the bridge pylon underneath,” he said.

The other injured are Chiam Chee Wei, 17, and Teh Bee Bee, 20.

Chiam is in the intensive care unit while Bee Bee suffered a broken right leg.

Sos Cili

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Suami Isteri Maut Dalam Kemalangan Di Jambatan Pulau Pinang, Rakan Jatuh Ke Laut

GEORGE TOWN: Sepasang suami isteri muda maut selepas kenderaan MPV yang dinaiki mereka merempuh besi selusur Jambatan Pulau Pinang dalam satu kemalangan di sini malam tadi, manakala seorang daripada tiga penumpang MPV itu tercampak keluar daripada kenderaan tersebut dan jatuh ke dalam laut.

Ketua Trafik Pulau Pinang DSP Abdul Rahim Md Din berkata remaja berumur 17 tahun yang tercampak ke dalam laut itu kemudiannya berenang ke salah satu tiang jambatan sebelum diselamatkan oleh polis marin kira-kira pukul 1.30 pagi.

Beliau berkata pemandu MPV itu Teh Boh Yi, 17, dari Sungai Rambai Bukit Mertajam dan isterinya Khor Lee Mui, 17, dari Mukim 8 Tanah Liat Bukit Mertajam, meninggal dunia di Hospital Pulau Pinang pada kira-kira pukul 1 pagi akibat kemalangan pada kira-kira pukul 11 malam itu.

Bercakap kepada Bernama ketika dihubungi di sini beliau berkata kemalangan dipercayai berlaku semasa kenderaan yang dipandu Teh dalam perjalanan menghala Pulau Pinang itu hilang kawalan semasa ia cuba memotong sebuah kenderaan.

Katanya MPV itu kemudiannya terbabas ke pembahagi jalan sebelum dilanggar pula oleh sebuah lori membawa sayur, mengakibatkan ia merempuh besi selusur jambatan.

Abdul Rahim berkata rempuhan itu mengakibatkan remaja berkenaan tercampak keluar dari kereta, dan terjatuh ke dalam laut.

Katanya ketiga-tiga penumpang MPV yang terselamat dalam kejadian itu kini menerima rawatan itu Hospital Pulau Pinang, dan salah seorang daripadanya sedang dirawat di Unit Rawatan Rapi (ICU).

"Keadaan mereka baik, namun ketiga-tiganya masih dalam keadaan trauma akibat kejadian itu," katanya.

Adul Rahim berkata polis sedang menyiasat kes itu mengikut Seksyen 41 (1)Akta Pengangkutan 1987. - BERNAMA

Sos Tomato

This post has been edited by jolipoli81: Sep 20 2010, 05:19 PM

so scary @@
especially the engine part there...

piping also cabut together =.="

how fast was that guy goin til the engine came out like that?????!!!!!!!!

Look like MPV...

-.-///read the text..nissan livina

it said livina.. read la wey

chill guys, i just added the text after he asked, not his fault
poor fella

This post has been edited by jolipoli81: Sep 20 2010, 05:32 PM

wah!~ he must be speeding like mad and tried to do overtaking, but cant brake in time and hantam side railing and KA BABOOOM

19 year old la. still damn young and dangerous. what more with a 17 year old wife.

young couple, feel so sad for them...

haiz...people like this..dunno want to feel pity for them or not..
if dun drive fast...how could tis happened?whole enjin tercabut..pak hei meh...
haiz..in other words..tis really can define as "sendiri cari mati tapi menyusahkan orang lain"..
luckyly the driver dead..if he survive..he will feel guilty for the rest of life..

some more i heard the wife pregnant.. =.=

lolz... take video no people will catch u laaa....

change lane also can lose control... drive 160kmh change lane kaa??...

Wow accident season is still going on despite after raya, last saturday i saw two accident meters apart on the same stretch but different time, got penungu/tai sei kuai i think

some ppl not believe it, but i believe it..
damn scary...
ppl said I am kolot minded wor

i also believe got tai sei guai...
but this case...bukan pasal penunggu wor..pasal driver's behaviour...youngster mar...speeding very yeng..girl will admire wor..

haiz...penang bridge summore wanna speed...dunno wat thy thinkin

"Police said Teh, the driver of the Nissan Livina, tried to switch lanes when he lost control of the car"

do u really believe what they say when the car damaged like that? how fast do u need to go to enable a car to "loose control" when "changing lanes", this is just absurd...............

there are so many possibilities, maybe the tire blew, maybe the lorry can't manage to brake in time and ram the car from behind when the car changing lanes at high speed, who really knows?

last time I kena one time brake bahaya nia now I scare dy....
feel so geli when thought of it...
so ppl... bcareful when on the road always >.< ...

''pemandu nissan livina cuba menukar haluan apabila dia hilang kawalan''
ok...he lost control not becoz he tried to change lanes...mean when he change the lanes he already lost control of his car...that what the setence mean

lost control adi why bother to change lane some more??

Lost control, hit the left side of the car.
Panicked, steer to the right (but oversteer), car spun to the center lane. Front & driver side got hit hard by following lorry (a 6-wheeler i guess).

The impact knocked the engine out of its mounting & a passenger into the sea.

Make sense?

Maybe got crosswind at that time. BTW, didn't Penang bridge got CCTV? The the police just need to watch it to deduct what happen.

below is answer for ur question

RIP

rip.... sad news

drive save guys

Rest in peace, Road just like Tiger mouth (in Chinese)..

vr good imagination

Make sense.....

Livina lost control, bang the divider which might cause damage on the car edi. Car flew in the middle of the road, fully loaded "Lori Sayur" came and whack the damage/wounded vehicle till the engine come off.

must be going very fast to end up like that..many just drive very fast and zig zag at pg bridge..

everytime pg bridge i drive 60km/h or so at slow lane..fuyoh can see how fast some really dare to go..one false move disaster only like this accident

What kind of "lost control"? If he already "lost control" of his car, how the heck did he change lane?

pundek hang , tak reti baca ke?

QUOTE(scorgio @ Sep 20 2010, 09:29 PM)
Lost control, hit the left side of the car.
Panicked, steer to the right (but oversteer), car spun to the center lane. Front & driver side got hit hard by following lorry (a 6-wheeler i guess).

The impact knocked the engine out of its mounting & a passenger into the sea.

Make sense?

in buletin utama sed, the driver tried to overtake the lorry but the mpv hit the lorry when the driver try to get back into the lane..young driver i guess..driving a mpv..cant budget the mpv size..

sad news. RIP to the deceased, both very young couple, with a 2 months old daughter. sad sad. next time, drive safe on the penang bridge.

i know why certain driver were forced to cut lanes. because certain "smart" people driving at 80Km/h refused to move to the left lane & hog the right lane no matter how you beam them. so when they got frustrated, they switch to the left lane, causing this kind of mishap.

please to all those who "terasa" you are people who drives slow but always sticking to the right lane, you are partly responsible for this kind of accidents.

Eh bro,The bridge there speed limit is 80kmph . its perfectly fine for right lane to go at 80kmph as they follow speed limit. You trying to incite us to get caught for speeding ?

ya lah..its on the bridge nway..why must drive fast right? the driver is very young lah..young blood.

hmm... Will it help if it had VSC/ESC and 4 wheel ABS/EBD (with rear disc brake)?



p/s: [off-topic] Nissan didn't bother to put VSC/ESC even in hi-spec Sylphy.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Sep 21 2010, 11:56 AM

If you stay within speed limit @ 80km/h + press your brake during emergency, I doubt you can crash your car until the engine falls off.
Even if you LOST CONTROL.

So, I think the driver was running at very high speed + he did NOT press the brake.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 21 2010, 11:59 AM

that is going to cause 1 bloody hell of jam man..

Agree with you on this.....there are 3 friggin lanes on the bridge....leftmost is for slow moving vehicles and heavy vehicles.....middle lane is where u stay after overtaking....right lane is ONLY for overtaking....its the same anywhere in the world...after u overtake, be prudent and move back to the left lane......Unfortunately, it has become a trend to drive slowly on the right lane eventhough the middle lane is perfectly empty.

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This post has been edited by bugbear1986: Sep 21 2010, 02:10 PM

Who teach you drive at 'speed limit' on 3rd/right lane which is the Overtakign Lane and claim it's your right to do so? It's known as the overtaking lane for a reason, if another is going faster then you move to the middle lane. I cannot tahan those fella hogging the right lane at 80kmh when the whoel road is empty infront of them

Then because you were overtaking at 30-40kmph over the speed limit and cause an accident is ok la as long your overtaking? When kena saman for driving over speed limit at fast lane you tell police that you overtaking, See they take your reasoning or not

An extra 40kmph isnt going to make your travel time much faster especially in city driving condition and these 3 people paid with their lives for "faster" travelling

This post has been edited by idunnolol: Sep 21 2010, 02:23 PM

i am not advocating speeding. please go back to driving school. you obviously failed.

always give way to the faster car, especially when you are at the rightmost lane. kena saman is the one overtakings' problem...not for you to decide. the moment you hog the right lane, you are a road idiot. you played a part in aggravating people to cut thru the left lane. fullstop.

EDIT: I bold the part for those who have problem understanding. That's the traffic rule on dual lane (or more) roads. Just because you are above speed limit, doesn't mean you can stay there as long as you like. Give way. Don't understand, then google / dictionary it.

This post has been edited by eddie_al: Sep 21 2010, 02:46 PM

I'm sure we experience being on the right lane with car high-beaming you while the left/middle lane is full and there is absolutely no way to give way except to hog the right lane. Would you still say i am a road hogger in that situation?

Malaysian drivers in general need anger management and patience class. Its not our choice to hog the right lane if the other lanes are full with speed abiding driver

By the way,i dont think there is any law prohibiting lane hogging, Someone should advocate it to parliment. I have my fair share of lane hoggers

are you a penangite? A few penangites just told you, penang drivers like to hog the rightmost lane when the middle and left lane are empty. If you don't know the situation we face everyday on the bridge, please keep yr comment to yourself.

penangites know exactly what i am talking about.

this is what we call a typical mindset which we normally refer to "SELFISH"

cantonese saying "gi gi gu gi gi"

Yes, eventhough i'm from ipoh but i always notice this when driving in penang .....These idiotic drivers endanger other people who are forced to overtake from the left.

There is.

My driver 'kena' b4. He's driving a 'throttled' lorry (fuel pump was locked at an extent the smoke would pass Puspakom inspection).
Max the lorry can go is 75km/h.
When he wanted to overtake a fully loaded 10-wheeler, the fella driving the V10 Turbo wouldn't give way & press hard.

There's a patrol car not far behind, my driver was stopped and penalised for "Memandu perlahan di lorong kanan".

Note: The right lane is an overtaking lane. The center lane is for cruising. Many thought that by sticking to the max speed limit, they are free to stay on the right lane as long as they wish. And thanks to them, it's sometimes faster to drive on the left lane cos there's no traffic.

sorry if offence anybody here.. penangites tend to hog the right lane.
i experience it not once, not twice but thrice on the way balik kampung during raya last year. on the same route from KL to pahang.

all with P plate number. even the left lane is empty and drive slowly on right lane. not at speed limit also.
hahaha

so for fast lane hogger. please give way to others. thanks

nah , the driver lost control already

that happens alot .

no offence taken. i am a penangite but i do not drive like them. infact, i always try to hi beam them hoggers 1st, and overtaking from the left as my last option. being an experianced driver, we always check our left mirror for motorcyclist before changing lane. (even checking blindspots, because penangite motorcylist have a tendency to hide there)

sad to say but inexperianced driver will get agitated and then switch without looking. that's also very dangerous.

note: that's why i said, lane hoggers played a part in accidents like this. others might be wrong for driving recklessly, but if you are hogging the lane with your 81km/h that makes you plain brainless. to me, brainless is just as fatal as reckless. reckless drivers might be wrong for not doing/thinking right, but being brainless you are infact not thinking at all.

ya.. not all. but most of them. when i was in penang also experience very dangerous driving style..
there's one car simply come out from junction without stopping and give way to main road users.. its very close.. lucky not hit him.. and im not generalize, but notice lots of this kind of idiot driver in penang especially motorcycle..

the right lane hoggers above (in my example) dont care one.. after numerous hi beam and horn. they just can ignore. i notice they know that i want to overtake them coz can see they're looking at the mirror.. hmmmm
still cant understand why they can and still behave like that.

But they seem to give much more respect and leeway to you if your driving a really big car. Something like a naza ria instead of a small car.

Btw,i was at penang 2 months back for a business trip. First thing i saw after paying toll is a dead body on a junction

Driving above speed limit is wrong. But road hogging is also wrong (and irritate others too). Just give way if the car following you is faster.

Pardon them on this.

The tempo in Penang is not as fast in KL. And perhaps the only road where one can drive fast on Penang Island is the coastal road stretch fr Macallum St to Queensbay Mall. Even then the speed limit is only 80km/h & 70km/h after The View.

Yes, the bikes & small roads on the island make it extra challenging. However, if u can master the skill of driving safely while maintaining efficiency, u're gonna be fine everywhere else. Drivers in Penang generally can park their cars really well. Not like in KL, where plenty of 'awek & makcik, lenglui & aunty' can't park a Kancil properly.

First of all,my condolences to the victims who passed on.

Back to lane hogging, yes I like to speed on the highway. Yes, I sometimes drive above the speed limit on the highway. But what happens if there is another faster car than me, behind me? I have to give way alright, no question, whether I'm going 130 or 140 or even 160 km/h. If he's faster than me, I'll give him way.

Let's not be selfish. I also hate it when people do not give me way.What gives me the right to do something back to other people when I myself hate it? Ask yourselves lane hoggers. You curse and cuss when people do not give you way, but when its your turn to give, you act BODOH only. Come on.

Well, my parents always told me on the road. No use being "kuai lan". It troubles your own self in the end.

There's another stretch where Penangites can drive fast. Its the long and wide stretch from Tanjung Bungah Hotel all the way to Sunrise Tower. Don't bother mentioning the ridiculous amount of traffic lights plaguing that particular stretch as red lights do not mean anything to those with an itchy right foot.

Motorcyclists in Penang are crazy. No helmets and doing zig-zags all the time at high speed. Some even casually talk to each other while HOGGING both lanes.

This post has been edited by Enclave Recruit: Sep 22 2010, 02:09 AM

when i 1st read on news paper...this guy is so !@#% wife also so pretty..young married...why die in accident??his wife only 17 and so hot..pregnant ...omg...THIS IS THE 1ST TIME I READ NEWS UNTIL FEEL SO PITY...SO KELIAN...pls appreciate our life and other ppl life..

i agree the outer most lane on a multi-lane highway is for overtaking...
but it does not give you the right to drive over the speed limit...

i'm always on the left or center lane when i'm cruising on the highway...
i'll go out to outer most right lane to overtake... all the while within the speed limit...
bear in mind when i do this... i make sure the overtaking lane is clear of traffic...
i'll then return to the left lane when i'm done...

if some speeding idiot happens to catch up at my rear while i'm overtaking...
they should be slowing down to allow me to complete my overtaking...
they can then continue with their unlawful speeding when i return back to the left lane...

It's.....very obvious that the guy was speeding on the bridge. There's noway the car can be ripped apart like that if he was going 80. Chances are he was doing 120~140.....and it's doable on the bridge especially at night. The crosswinds on the bridge are not predictable. Sometimes, you can just get a gust of wind and this is exactly what will happen. What more, a Livina, chances are way higher.

About penangites hogging right lane, actually, not just penangites, there are alot of idiots like this everywhere. Driving at speed limit does not give you the farking rights to hog the right lane. Move over and let people who are faster overtake you. And please don't give a rat ass on why that guy is driving fast. That's his own damn problem if he wants to go above speed limit but don't farking hog the lane like you own it. I've seen accidents caused by idiots like these one time too many.

agree

too bad nobody bother bout this, everyone just see going faster is always the problem but these lane hoggers are same shiat as well

if that accident is caused by a road hogger, then he deserve to die. The way he drive eventually he will meet same fate also soon or later. Good he is dead before he kill more innocent people.

dont impose your views onto others unless you want to become a zealot.

Since when does other people driving over speed limit concerns you? whether or not people driving over speedlimit is within whos right, it definately doesnt fall into your hand to decide. I already said, if its speed summon you are talking about, let them deal with it.

I was talking about road hoggers in penang bridge, not overtaking issue like what you are saying. you have the right to give your comment which is right for the overtaking part, but as far as road hoggers on the bridge is concern, if you have never experianced it then you have absolutely no idea what me & others are talking about.

the situation (on the bridge) is not the same as everywhere else.

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Added on September 22, 2010, 9:49 amfriend, my points exactly.

why are some people so concern about whether others are speeding or not? Is it so hard to understand? Faster car behind you, GIVE WAY.

This post has been edited by eddie_al: Sep 22 2010, 09:49 AM

He got what he wanted, speeding and rushing to Reincarnate. Coffin lorry hogging in front better ham kar chan striaght into it. Drive FASTER

of course pregnant... if not will get married at 17 and 19 mer?

please show respect to the deceased. you can scold people who are still alive, they can always argue back. Don't do that to people who already passed away. do you know what i am talking about?

Oh well......what's done is done. Car crashed, life lost, bones broken. Drive safe people. Especially on the bridge. I'm a violator myself at times flying on the brdige at crazy speeds but am cutting down now........scared end up at the wrong side of the bridge.....

you got it all wrong...
why shouldn't it concern me when other drive over the speed limit???
i'm a road user too... and would like to feel safe when i'm on the road...
a speed demon who lost control of his car can cause an accident and take other motorist lives too...
that's why we have speed limits...

if you're in the middle of overtaking some buses, lorries, slower cars...
a speeding car closes in behind you...
in order to give way...
there must be a safe gap on the left lane for you to squeeze in to allow the speed demon to illegally speed through...
if there is none... the speed demon have to allow you to finish overtaking...

for road hogging... it's wrong for safety reason... same as speeding...
people road hog for various reasons...
i've asked around before...
some say others can do it... i also can...
some say it's their right... same reason speed demons give...
some say lazy to change lanes to overtake... let the other fella behind do all the work...
you'll be surprised all the lame excuses people can come up with...

as for the people who died on the penang bridge...
i don't think the crash of the mpv with the guard rail caused the worst damage and killed them... it was to the side of the car...
the impact of the lorry behind them that did the worst damage...

just my 2 cents... take it with a pinch of salt... as i take others too...

Situation should be like this. MPV lost control, crashed, followed by impact from lorry which normally love to stick closely behind any moving objects, couldn't stop in time, bang...!!!

It's just a lorry sending vegetables. Imagine bigger lorry, what will happen?

This bridge is hungry maybe...need to sacrifice black goat..lolz..

I agree with those who says if there is a faster car in the right lane behind you, you should GIVE WAY.

But, I also can empathise with you on this, cause some cars are really fast, and before you can finish overtaking, they are right behind you already. Therefore, I always slowdown and will not cucuk the car infront of me (although sometimes they are obviously lacking in power to overtake try as they might ). BUtpls.. if your car no power, and it's going uphill or whatever, dont lah slowly overtake and take 5 minutes to do it....

I think if he was driving a Volvo XC90 he would have survived. That car is a tank. Safest car in the world.

Also, the guy who was thrown out into the sea is like Superman. Man of steel. Many people would have undoubtedly drown against the strong current while shell shocked.

Penangist never give way to other one lo...
"u wan fast arr, u potong me la..."

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Added on September 23, 2010, 12:47 amgive way to faster car??
hard for penang..

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Added on September 23, 2010, 12:51 ammy opinion, drive safely...
dun always potong others.. won't make u the 1st in front or any mystery gift await for u...

then most important for penangist, pls drive the car accordingly to the speed limit.. normally too fast or too slow...

why can;t just obey the speed...

most of the case is those motherf^^^^r drive crazy slow, then cause car from behind try to cut....

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RIP fro them...

This post has been edited by Vincent_A8fm: Sep 23 2010, 12:51 AM

anybody know what is the current body count for the penang bridge since it opened???

just motor accident... no need include suicide...

FYI, there might be a reason Penangites road hog at right lane, the left lane occasionally full of nails
Last time 2 lanes was worst, now got 3 lanes is better a bit.

I'll use mid lane now no matter how slow i'm driving, if u want to overtake me, use right lane or left lane.
If i'm driving in 2 lanes last time, i would probably hog the right lane too

About the road hogging:
It is very subjective. For example, during traffic jam, is the right most lane has to be empty for "higher speed driver"? It is not, as the traffic is congested and all lanes are in full capacity, please be patient.

Like mentioned earlier, each driver may decide their own speed (fast/slow/beyond speed limit/turtle crawling style), give way to faster car if you are in the right most lane. And also, the car from behind will have no right to pressure the front driver to drive beyond speed limit (he has his right to drive safely), when there is no space in left lane, eg. as faster car pressure the car infront which is overtaking a slower car.

I don't think a 160km/h car will drive in middle lane and keep zig-zag to over take the cars in middle lane, and that car will stay in the right lane (road hogger)?

About the road accicdent:
I pity the passangers as they traveled with the driver. The driver was irresponsible to his friends as well as the bridge users. Imagine if it was another car/motorcycle (instead of lorry) bang the lavina, there would be another fatal case.
Learn to be responsible before driving on road.

About the speed limit on penang bridge:
Still feel that 80km/h on bridge is slow... and i also notice the 70km/h before the ramp (i feel very annoying)... need a super percise right foot control on accelerator... (and i drive either in middle lane or left most lane.. don't curse me of hogging the right lane )
Do you all notice the camera anyway (sign boards near entrance in both directions)?

During the Raya festive season, when I was travelling on the PLUS highway, one bloody white Forte drove as if he owned the road. Flashing high beam and HONKING all the way to tell people to give way, when everyone is travelling around 80-90km/h. Damn ego.

I honestly hope that this kind of driver can go meet whoever God he believes in ASAP.

Bro have you considered he might have an emergency? Maybe he want to lausai liao? Imagine how susah tahan from shitting?

from my own personal experience since the bridge opened, i have noticed the following...

before the bridge expansion...
it was 2 lanes to 3 lanes (middle span) to 2 lanes...
most motorcycles, buses & lorries will be on the left lane entering and exiting the bridge...
that's why you end up with cars hogging the right lane...
buses & lorries will sometimes hog the right lane too...
it seems they do this to avoid changing lanes whenever they need to overtake slower motorcyles, buses, lorries, cars...
when you hit the middle span, you'll notice the left lane seems to become a motorcycle lane...
very seldom you'll see slower buses, lorries, cars move to this lane...
some cars use this left lane as an overtaking lane...
why???
because it will change back to 2 lanes again...

now, after the bridge expansion...
not much have changed in terms of driving habit...
the most left lane is usually full of motorcycles...
slower buses, lorries, cars still drive in the middle lane...
there are still road hogs driving buses, lorries, cars on the right lane...

just my 2 cents...

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Added on September 23, 2010, 2:11 pmthis kind of people don't believe in god...

they only believe in speed demon...

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Added on September 23, 2010, 2:15 pmthis kind of drivers will eventually create an emergency for other road users...

This post has been edited by raymond: Sep 23 2010, 02:15 PM

this another thing. thanks to point it out. its true. experience it many time.
if you're going uphill and car no power, don't overtake laa..

IMO this is very straight forward and easy to understand

This post has been edited by Beach_Boy: Sep 23 2010, 06:24 PM

very nice of u...
think of the others...

if all the driver like u good la..

drive carefully, the road is for all of us..
no one owned it.. so must share share, give way to people...

and also dun block the emergency lane...

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Added on September 23, 2010, 8:59 pmmay be a few thousand...

This post has been edited by Vincent_A8fm: Sep 23 2010, 08:59 PM

em.. why don't you post the speedlimit as well?

speed limit is just the law in certain country.
if i was not mistaken, in germany there is no speed limit on the freeway/highway (instead advisable speed)

now should we still hog the fastest lane if you're in germany?

I realised, some people have their own set of "logic" that they follow and no set amount of arguing/convincing/proving will change their mind. That's why you have smart peopel and you have stupid people in this world. If they refuse to understand the idea behind road HOGGING the Right lane, then let them be.

yea... try tailgating and flashing your headlights trying to get the "road-hog" off the fast lane and see who gets to keep his driver's licence in germany

This post has been edited by kikikukiki: Sep 24 2010, 05:14 PM

It's not germany but... it IS illegal to road hog in Germany.. look it up before posting ignorantly..

Then again i'm sure you will still argue somehow propogating that road hogging is ok in your world... to each their own

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Blocking the fast lane could cost Georgia drivers $75
By Walter C. Jones

Morris News Service

ATLANTA – Drivers who hog the fast lane and refuse to yield to faster vehicles could get a $75 fine under legislation introduced Tuesday.

The law already requires slowpokes to move over as soon as they notice they're being overtaken, but the sponsor of House Bill 1047 says a $75 fine would give officers more incentive to issue tickets.

"I don't think I'm alone in thinking this: There are so many times when you're on the Interstate ... and people will get in the over in the left-hand lane, which by law is for passing, and just sit there using it as their own personal driving lane," said sponsor Rep. Mark Butler, R-Carrollton. "They may be going 50 mph, and it ends up slowing down traffic. It's frustrating."

http://www.times-herald.com/Local/Bill-wou...-the-fast-lane-

This post has been edited by MeToo: Sep 24 2010, 05:32 PM

really? and what is your point exactly? did i say it was ok to road hog?

but you just said "why don't you post the speedlimit as well", which make it seems you are in line with people thinks "it's ok to road hog because i am following the speed limit", or worst, "i did it because i care and you should not speed".

i am not pointing at who that is, but they should know who they are. the point that i brought in earlier was, road hogging is a frustrating situation that leads people to get agitated & do reckless things, such as cutting into the left lane, most of the time without looking behind. that is reckless driving, and should be punished. but it's not just them who needs punishing, those road hoggers are also responsible and should be punished just like those laws in Japan & Germany.

i never advocate speeding, a point somehow certain smart people are too "thick" to see that. i just said, it's none of your damn business. and more important, i was totalling referring to the penang bridge, the place where this accident happened. on the bridge, speeding is almost a non issue on its own, because the road is almost always full of cars. how can you even speed?

we just want to drive "fast & smoothly", and not "you do 80 so i do 81 & together we make the whole road slow like mati". after a day of work is it too much to ask to get home early?

so why there are still accidents? well for one, hoggers makes people get frustrated, and frustrated people do stupid things like cutting lanes without looking. when they do that, cars behind would get shocked and sudden brake. BAM, accident happens. isn't that a familiar situation on the bridge? very.

and before the introduction of 3rd lane, it was almost always the poor motorist who become the unlucky ones...either knocked down or ran over.

The whole of malaysia only got hundred and one sign like this. Where you found it? Gua Musang highway?

Where in big city cars don't drive on third lane, maybe tanjong rambutan town.

In Malaysia 99% saman issued are speeding related, never saman due to hogging road except blocking the Agong, Sultan, Minister, WAKIL RAKYAT like myself lah...

I didnt know got so many VIP here

bro, it is called Autobahn. germany is so big, and not every freeway are without speed limit.
only this autobahn. i personally been there before. the road is very very wide and u can expect to see super cars "zoom....." then disappear from you.

but once accident happens, i guess.... thats it la....

the main point is you don't have the right to hog the fastest lane. that's all.

+1

Imagine u are going 130 on right lane
drive drive drive

then suddenly this aunty hogging the lane, driving at 110.

then she dont let you pass.

because frustrated. you turn to the left to overtake, and BANG

this is how accident happen.

how it happen?
1)the aunty hogging the lane

if you say cause the guy was speeding, wait, the guy already brake behind the aunty, so in reality, he wasnt speeding at all, the aunty stop him from speeding making him switch lane spontaneously and cause a crash.

don't give example aunty drive at 110km/h.

real experience uncle drive at 100km/h at LPT hiway and hog the fastest lane. the speed limit is 110km/h

so please give way ya you all lane hogger.