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TSking_kong
post May 16 2005, 10:04 AM, updated 20y ago

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<UPDATE>

this thread now serves as a fan base for the Dawn of War series, do join the forums to find out more about DoW players in M'sia.

The Malaysian Chapter
1. king_kong (semi active)
2. Hunt (active)
3. johnnycp (active)
4. redeye84 (active)
5. sanjikun (active heretic)
6. Ctrl-Alt
7. HawkeyeJ
8. Waba
9. Aoshi_88
10. SkYY
11. TheNameX
12. fujkenasai
13. t4tortoise

semi active: plays occassionaly
active: life pledged to the Emperor

the Malaysian Chapter welcomes new brothers with open arms (argh, so ghey). simply PM me.

idleness leads to heresy!

<OUTDATED>

wokay guys, this thread will be active from today until the end of the tournament.

this thread will be used to provide information on the tournament and everything else involved in it. we will try our best to get everything updated soonest possible.

forumers/gamers can also reply to this thread to voice out their comments and opinions to make this the best DoW tournament in Malaysia!!!

idleness leads to heresy!

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post May 16 2005, 10:09 AM

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Update on 16th May 2005:

we have recently been asked to upgrade to patch 1.3, as the patch was just released.

if there are objections to the patch, please ONLY PM me. if the response is significant we will revert back to 1.2.

if you agree, no need to PM me.

for latest patch information and on the game, you guys can visit: http://dowp.mednickonline.com/modules/news/

pretty comprehensive website for DoW information.
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post May 16 2005, 02:08 PM

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Relic's Forum for DoW :
http://forums.relicnews.com/forumdisplay.php?f=90

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So What do DoW Gamers think ? v.1.2 or v.1.3 ?

We understand that if u want to continue practising online before the tournament that you will need v.1.3 so tell us!


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post May 16 2005, 02:44 PM

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i suggest 1.2, since we know the tournament using 1.2 last time, i think not only myself, other player also keep practising patch 1.2. and 1.3, there is a lot of bugs been solve, but for chaos is getting strongest among other races!!! if u r a experience dow player, then u know. i have pm king_kong for the reasons.
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post May 16 2005, 03:06 PM

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the competition, is it 1v1 ?
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post May 16 2005, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(crestfallen @ May 16 2005, 03:06 PM)
the competition, is it 1v1 ?
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erum... no it's 2vs2

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post May 16 2005, 06:21 PM

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There is not suitable for the Tournament using patch 1.2, actually a big tournament or national tournament will be use the latest patch ( Include all games ). All the organiser of the tournament will update the recent patch before the tournament coming. We have knew the tournament is held on June 10 - 12, that means we still have alot of time to prepare it. I suggest to use the newest version ( patch 1.3 ), because there are few reason for that. First, as a DoW participants, we must train hard and also watch those expert replays.. but all of these is using patch 1.3, so dont tell me that u will train 2 v 2 with the Insane computer ..? If like this, the tournament is no quality at all, am I right ..? I strongly suggest the tournament will launch with patch 1.3 ... otherwise some of the participants will not statisfy for the tournament. As what I said, please update the tournament patch to 1.3, somemore this is a Big Tournament .. I hope my suggestion can be accept . Thank You .
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post May 16 2005, 07:48 PM

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1 more important thing .. please inform us when you guys will comfirm the patch for the tournament is coming next month . As a player we have to know this as soon as possible, because this is urgent and the patch 1.2 and 1.3 is totally change alot.. if we can't get the information as early as we can .. this is really hard to train for the game, I hope you guys will understand what i said. Other than that I also hope the tournament will be choose patch 1.3, Thank You.
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QUOTE(king_kong @ May 16 2005, 10:04 AM)
idleness leads to heresy!
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dude, it's 'heresy grows from idleness'
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post May 17 2005, 01:06 PM

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tortoise, king_kong, once confirm which patch use for tournament! please post a message here asap!! hehe..if anything changes, we need replan our strategy~~! smile.gif
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King_Kong !!! Please inform us the Patch will be choose ...... If not we really hard to plan the strategy .. Please comfirm the patch as soon as possible , Thank YOU.
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post May 19 2005, 08:59 AM

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thank you so much for the response so far. we're still getting a lot of feedback at this moment, so please be a little more patient.

we're trying to firm everything up before the end of this week if possible.

soon, soon. relaks...
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post May 19 2005, 12:07 PM

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Damn, still can't find a DOW partner. I've been honing my skills over the net. *cracks knuckles* ROFL

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post May 19 2005, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ May 19 2005, 12:07 PM)
Damn, still can't find a DOW partner. I've been honing my skills over the net. *cracks knuckles* ROFL
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maybe u want to ask here in this thread
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Meanwhile, for those who haven't seen the COOL oil Painting (GWI approved!).

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Erm, could someone please post a link for the tournament? I have a friend who's interested, but according to him, the "state" level tourneys are over or something... Could someone clarify? Link at least...
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this thread serves as a link for all other tournament information.

the Penang State Prelims are over, Sabah happens this weekend and Malacca in the following week but slots are already taken up.

So, last shot is the KL Preliminaries.

Players who qualify in the semi-s will get a cool prize each!
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hey xeo.. im looking for a teammate as well lol...
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QUOTE(king_kong @ May 19 2005, 01:22 PM)
this thread serves as a link for all other tournament information.

the Penang State Prelims are over, Sabah happens this weekend and Malacca in the following week but slots are already taken up.

So, last shot is the KL Preliminaries.

Players who qualify in the semi-s will get a cool prize each!
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Okay... Mind giving out info on the Kl prelim then? When? Where?
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post May 19 2005, 02:11 PM

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KL Prelims are in June 10th - 11th. (Fri & Sat).

National Finals will be on the next day : 12th June Sunday.


Malacca State Finals > 29th May 2005
Good View Internet Café
No. 53, BBP 1, Jalan Batu Berendam Putra, 75350 Melaka



Sabah State Finals > 22nd May 2005
Cyber - X
17, 1st and 2nd Floor, Block B, Damai Plaza, Luyang, Kota Kinabalu Sabah.


Penang State Finals > COMPLETED.

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The KL Preliminaries are scheduled in June itself :

10th-11th June @ Low Yat Plaza. > KL-Selangor State Finals.
[Friday & Saturday]

12th June @ Low Yat Plaza. > National Finals.
[Sunday]

First few Teams to register will get a DoW F1-Type Crew Shirt.

Forms please submit to : New Era @ Fax : 03-2143-1330
OR any one of these 4 Retail Outlets.
MEGABUY (KLCC)
THE WIZSHOP (KLCC) - under renovation I think.
MEGABUY (BANGSAR SHOPPING CENTRE)
THE WIZARD (ONE UTAMA)

There's a special rebate going on for this period. Purchase a copy of DoW and Register there and get an additional RM$10 rebate!

* the above taken from "tortoise" post:
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php...21&page=1&pp=15

if im not mistaken, the last date to submit an entry for the KL preliminaries is on the 6th June.
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post May 19 2005, 02:15 PM

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The KL prelim, happens on the 10th to the 11th of June 2005.

Registration closes on the 3rd June 2005.

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i still love "DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR!"
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post May 20 2005, 09:09 AM

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the Penang State Prelim results are now on www.neweragames.com.my

go read about it. sorry, no replays though.
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Relic Forums - WinterAssualt video 14minutes!

I'll try to keep the direct torrent seeding as long as possible ! Grab it NOW!
(untill Kingkong tells me "dude the internet too slow lah!")


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Relic Forums - Direct download from DoW Planet

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post May 20 2005, 03:44 PM

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alright Marines, fall in!!!

i have an important announcement to make.

the patch to be used for the Dawn of War Official National Tournament is:

version 1.2.


yes, u saw that right. now get back in-line....



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post May 20 2005, 04:12 PM

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Cool..i just faxed my entry form so now i can fully concentrate on training with the offcial patch 1.2
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post May 20 2005, 05:27 PM

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hey Jony, which form is yours?
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QUOTE(king_kong @ May 20 2005, 09:09 AM)
the Penang State Prelim results are now on www.neweragames.com.my

go read about it. sorry, no replays though.
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CEHCEH CEH!!!!
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post May 21 2005, 12:25 AM

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[quote=crestfallen,May 19 2005, 02:12 PM]
The KL Preliminaries are scheduled in June itself :

10th-11th June @ Low Yat Plaza. > KL-Selangor State Finals.
[Friday & Saturday]


Oh what time???
lowyatt where? the cyber cafe or ?????
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post May 22 2005, 03:04 AM

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durnoz,

but i want to participate lah tongue.gif.. no teammate yet as xeoalpha havent reply my msg..

i got exam on the 8th & 11th morning tho tongue.gif... hopefully the competition starts afternoon - evening.
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i go there see how my friend tarpao using chaos eldar combi hahahx!
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anyone up for a game this week?
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the timetable and schedule for the tournament wont be released till before the tournament. it will be held all day long.

We'll kee you guys posted on this forum on the schedule.

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hey Jony, which form is yours?
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Its under team name "Heretical Idleness"

I faxed the form using the number you posted here previously. Hope it went thru... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(JonyFinger @ May 24 2005, 10:48 AM)
Its under team name "Heretical Idleness"

I faxed the form using the number you posted here previously. Hope it went thru... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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yep, got it! thumbup.gif
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hopefully it starts after 1.00pm..

& hopefully it uses 1.3 version, since all the ppl that play using online (not direct connect) must use this version, + it has lotsa fix & the balance issue are soo much different.

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post May 24 2005, 02:36 PM

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Sorry man but version 1.2 will be the official patch for the tourney

See earlier posting by K_K
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post May 24 2005, 03:23 PM

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1.2 is the patch we're using. that way all the hardwork invested during then would not go to waste.
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oh my god.. then how am i gonna prac wif 1.2?.. wif insane pc? sad.gif..

reckon all the p*rate supporter will be happy to hear this since they cant upgrade the game to 1.3.... yet

anyway xeo, u still need teammate? i hardly see u on msn lately. maybe i call you later..

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well, we considered about that factor, being able to train online and such but then again 1.2 came out not too long ago so i guess there won't be enuff time for many people to train with it....

anyhow, hope that you guys will do you best!
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Go have a look at www.mygozone.com/exclusives , some DoW fans has made a contribution to the cause of bringing DoW back to the WCG ! Is a funny Comics , check it out !

All fans of Dawn Of War , GO GO GO !

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Can someone inform me what the format's gonna be like?

Do we get to choose our faction or is it gonna be randomize?
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the game format will not be detemined until the final day itself, depending on the outcome. if more teams arrive, we have to run single elim.
otherwise best of 3.

as for factions, anything that rocks you boat...
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i need a teammate. I'm a space marine . strong and capable to penetrate enemy line. im looking for a master tactitician to bring the troops to victory this coming tournament.

Anyone need to train together at subang ss15 please contact me at 012-2179044.


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i'll ask around to see who needs a partner. will keep you posted.
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From Ne-Tortoise:

Hi Guys,
sorry but have been real busy.

Umm... the event will start at 1030hrs. Each day.

However, we will try our best to put up the matching schedule so you all can plan and know in advance what time your match is.

Thanks!

Tortoise


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What map will we be playing and what are the gameplay ?
Take and hold, control etc?


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What map will we be playing and what are the gameplay ?
Take and hold, control etc?
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From Tortoise,

Hi Guys,

umm... to clarify. The competition will feature a 2v2 Annihlate game
on maps:
Tainted Place
Tartarus Centre
Biffy's Peril
Saints Square
Mountain Trail

Currently version 1.2 - We are thinking of making this version 1.3 - OPINIONS ? please.

Oh and I've been playing DoW since closed beta... and got 0wn3d by a starcraft convert player ( I think he wants the prizes ) in 4 MINUTES... So we are sure that the competitions should be a great one!

Please come down and join! if not to meet other DoW players... and oh... first 32 Teams to register for KL will get a DoW F1 styled shirt (with bigggg logos)...

We choose these maps and only annihilate so as to allow simpler administration for state tournaments. Take and Hold victories are just expedient to ending the game. (if u have a economic advantage and still loose well then I've nothing to say).


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QUOTE(johnnycp @ May 29 2005, 12:55 PM)
From Ne-Tortoise:

Hi Guys,
sorry but have been real busy.

Umm... the event will start at 1030hrs. Each day.

However, we will try our best to put up the matching schedule so you all can plan and know in advance what time your match is.

Thanks!

Tortoise


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1030 sad.gif.. i got exams on Saturday, starts at 0900 - 1230.... guess i wont be able to compete in the tourney then...
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ May 29 2005, 06:31 PM)


Please come down and join! if not to meet other DoW players... and oh... first 32 Teams to register for KL will get a DoW F1 styled shirt (with bigggg logos)...


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Cool......do i get one? drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(crestfallen @ May 29 2005, 10:43 PM)
1030 sad.gif.. i got exams on Saturday, starts at 0900 - 1230.... guess i wont be able to compete in the tourney then...
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Hi Crestfallen!

Umm... we have 2 days of KL Finals. Friday and Saturday (each day selects 2 teams to go into the National Finals - on Sunday.)

As such, we should be able to schedule you to an appropriate time.

We need to know your team name to flag it for consideration.



BUT GUYS, REGISTRATIONS CLOSE THIS WEEK! (Somebody's gotta do the detailing for match schedules). So submit them forms ! smile.gif


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remember....
replays and more replays
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how many team already register?? more than 30team??


OMG!!??!! I FORGOT WHAT IS MY TEAM NAME!!?? shakehead.gif

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Hi all i just want to check if my team has been registered, please check if X3M is in.


Thanks,
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wow ! another tournament for this game lol...support it...
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x3m is in.
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Can u schedule my team to be on saturday instead of friday. Both me and my teammate are working stiffs...hehehe

Team name see sig tongue.gif
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first 30 participants register will get their tee shirt? how can we know if our team name is selected for the tee shirt ? the opening day registration or the first team that submit the form before the tournament day?


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how many team already register?? more than 30team??
OMG!!??!! I FORGOT WHAT IS MY TEAM NAME!!?? shakehead.gif
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Hahaha... smile.gif Dun worry I think every body who's registered will be getting a DoW Stylised F1-type Crew Shirt... [It's the first 32 TEAMS to register.]

right now still has space... but juding by the number of teams that have taken part in our various state touronaments, there may be some teams without the shirts... *fingers crossed - hopeful*

erum... I can't help you with the Team Name tongue.gif

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Tortoise

Can u schedule my team to be on saturday instead of friday. Both me and my teammate are working stiffs...hehehe

Team name see sig tongue.gif
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Tortoise: Any respond to my request above? whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(JonyFinger @ May 30 2005, 04:32 PM)
Tortoise: Any respond to my request above? whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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erum we will TRY our very best to meet requests smile.gif

But please understand we have limitations as well. blush.gif

anyways we will avail to put up the tournament structure and timings by mid week next week... so everybody knows what time etc... (after the timings come up, please do not ask us to change it.)

any gaps/spaces would be deliberate to accomodate, emergency, last minute type walk ins.

Tortoise.


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Thanks tortoise.

It's just difficult to ask for leave from work for reasons: "We have a gaming tournament"...heheheh tongue.gif
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no no no, use this excuse:

We have herectics to purge!

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...either that, or...
"Skulls for the Skull Throne"

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johnnycp...ohh...u r warhamster...!!hehe..long time didnt see you play during online..
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So, what's the format gonna be like?

Single elim? Double elim?

The website on new era doesnt say much, does it....tongue.gif

Also where can we download the replays from the other states prelims?

And anyone interested in a friendly? sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(jitan @ May 31 2005, 01:57 PM)
johnnycp...ohh...u r warhamster...!!hehe..long time didnt see you play during online..
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I training online everyday after 11pm until around 4am. tongue.gif

Too bad. tournament is v1.2 with massive bugs. sweat.gif
im training base on online v1.3, cant reverse back to 1.2 haizz~~~~ huh.gif


Anyone agree the National Final will be in V1.3 format??? thumbup.gif

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I hope it will be version 1.2.

I have already submitted 5 teams from my group and although i feel 3 of the teams are not tournament ready i hope to produce a good showing. While 1.3 fixes most of the bugs in 1.2 we've been practicing using 1.2 and i hope it will stay that way. To change now will kill us.

Can someone please post up a list of the bugs so that we can take note of them and not disqualify.
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Can someone please post up a list of the bugs so that we can take note of them and not disqualify.
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I agree. The organizers should compile a list of the bugs and exploits in ver 1.2 patch, so that the contestants will be able to recognize any unfairness during the tournaments.

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Version 1.3

Improvements:
-Game performance has been improved through the use of the Intel Performance Primitives library
-Enemy detection code has been improved for better performance in the late game on large maps.
-Selection focus key (') has been added to the defaul keybindings. NOTE: The keybindings file has been changed and is no longer compatible with previous versions.
-Improved the targeting priority system for vehicles and units with multiple weapons.
-Major update to game camera system, including fixing many bugs.


General Fixes:
-Fixed several bugs with the Automatch system.
-Thorough overhaul of the Stance system which fixed many bugs with the Melee and Ranged stances. Overhaul includes the removal of Versatile Stance.
-Fixed several minor issues with the game camera, including increasing the default range for the limited camera so it matches the distance of the free camera.
-Fixed several minor issues with save games and playback files. NOTE: The save game format has been changed and will no longer be compatible with previous versions.
-Fixed several minor issues with the playback mode.
-Fixed several infrequent crash bugs in Online screens.
-Fixed rendering issues with the Intel 915 IGMA.
-Fixed Mission 4 bug where third Whirlwind disappears.
-Fixed bug where Toth was damaging himself with special attacks.
-Fixed occasional SCAR crash in Mission 7 when capturing bridge.
-Fixed NIS cameras for all missions.
-Fixed various bugs in game chat system.
-Fixed various bugs in Army Painter.
-Fixed bug where NIS speech wouldn't play under Windows 98.
-Fixed various bugs in Multiplayer Game setup system.
Various cosmetic fixes to various screens.
-Fixed bug where the Ork Wartrack Twin Rokkit Launcher upgrades will get stuck in an infinite loop when overwatching the upgrade.
-Fixed bug where a Shroud button which has no function would appear in the build-menu of a Webway Gate while it is being built.


Ability Fixes:
-Fixed bug where Word of the Emperor ability would not function.
-Fixed bug where Bad Doc Healing Aura ability did not heal commander units.
-Fixed bug where Bad Doc Healing Aura ability only affected the Mad Doc and attached squad.
-Fixed bug where Exarchs could not be added to Aspect Sqauds while the squad was moving.
-Fixed bug where Exarchs could be built while the squad was moving.
-Fixed bug where Howling Banshee War Shout ability would affect friendly units.
-Fixed bug where Eldar Plasma Grenade was inheriting incorrect attributes.
-Fixed bug where Stormboyz speed research effects only the Stormboyz leader.
-Fixed a range of bugs where abilities were incorrectly affecting friendly units as well as enemy units.
-Fixed bug where Grav Falcon Brightlance was invisible.

There is something Relic missing here.
-The orks mob bugs has been fixed as well.
-Stormboyz Choppa now does the actual damage output
-Nobz leader powerclawz damage against heavy_medium fixed



Balance Changes:

Ork Changes
-Reduced damage of Trukk Big Shoota.
-Increased population requirement for Trukk/Mekshop from 31 to 46.
-Increased population requirement for Wartrakk from 46 to 61.
-Wartrakk build time increased.
-Decreased damage of Wartrakk Rokkit against all infantry significantly.
-Increased build time of Wartrakk Rokkit and Mortar from 9 to 20 seconds.
-Put a 46 population requirement on Ork Rokkit Launchers.
-Reduced Big Mek's Mega Blaster damage.
-Increased build time of Bad Doc to 15 seconds.
-Increased cost of Bad Doc by 10 requisition.
-Increased damage output of Nob Leader Power Klaws.
-Decreased build time of Ork Nob Power Klaws from 15 to 12 seconds.
-Increased damage of Ork Nob Leader Power Klaws.
-Big Mek now takes longer to build after researching Custom Tellyporta.
-Big Mek now takes longer to build after researching Custom Force Field.
-Big Mek now takes longer to build after researching Tank Bustin' Kit.
-Reduced range on Ork Listening Posts that have the first Listening Post upgrade.


Eldar Changes
-Reduced damage of Fire Prisms Shuriken Catapult against Heavy Infantry (Medium). Also reduced damage against Medium Vehicles.
-Reduced damage of fire prism Prism Cannon vs. all buildings, all vehicles (slight), reduced morale damage, reduced minimum damage, reduced area of effect from 10-8.
-Reduced morale damage on Eldar D-Cannon Turret.
-Reduced damage of Vyper Missile Launcher against all infantry types.
-Increased time cost of Vyper Missile Launcher weapon upgrade.
-Increased vertical aiming ability of Brightlance platforms (slight).
-Increased range of Ranger Long Rifle from 32 to 35.
-Increased morale damage output of Ranger long rifle from 40 to 60 per hit.
-Removed charge modifiers from Howling Banshees.
-Created dependencies on Vyper/Wraithlord aspect stones before Fire Prism can be researched.
-Decreased time cost of Seer Council Witchblade weapon upgrade.
-Dark Reaper Exarch now does more damage to Heavy Infantry .
-Dark Reaper weapon upgrade now has the same range as its original weapon.
-Increased Time cost of Warp Spider Aspect Stone
-Increased Power cost of Warp Spider Aspect Stone.


Chaos Changes:
-Reduced cost of tier 3 to 400/150 and 100 seconds. From 500/200 and 125 seconds
-Chaos Aspiring Champions and Space Marine Sergeants now benefit from the bionics upgrades (+20% health)
Furious charge should now be giving +15% damage bonus to chaos_knife_cultist and chaos_knife_tactical.
-Chaos Heretic costs 0 supply cap, however there is a limit of 5 Heretics at any given time.
-Increased cost of Cultist, increased hit points, increased build time, decreased to starting with 4 units. Increased base weapon damages by 30%. Decreased min damage on Cultist Laspistol from 2.5 to 1.5.
-Increased time cost of Cultist Aspiring Champion.
-Reduced Cultist Grenade Launcher damage by 35%. Increased build time of Grenade Launcher.
-Increased damage output of cultist plasma gun, slightly increased cost.
-Defiler hitpoints increased from 2300 to 2700.
-Defiler now costs 2 Support cap.
-Reduced cost of Possessed marines, decreased attack/hp/build time accordingly.
-Reduced cost of Horrors, decreased attack/hp/build time accordingly.
-Reduced melee damage of Raptors against building low.
-Rhino now costs 1 Support cap.
-Smoke Grenade research time/cost reduced.


Space Marines Changes
-Reduced cost of tier 3 to 400/150 and 100 seconds, from 500/200 and 125 seconds.
-Reduced stun time of SM Force Commander from 4 to 2 seconds.
-Scouts do less ranged damage to infantry_low, infantry_med, and infantry_high.
-Reduced Scout accuracy while moving from .55 to .35. Reduced Scout morale damage.

-Reduced melee damage of Assault Marines against building low.
-Rhino now costs 1 Support cap.
-Smoke Grenade research time/cost reduced.
-Cultist reinforce time when in combat set to 12 seconds.
-Updated help text to reflect balance changes.

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tat's very informative, be please remember it's 1.2 you guys will be playing on.
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Jun 1 2005, 10:08 PM)
Version 1.3


Chaos Changes:
-Reduced cost of tier 3 to 400/150 and 100 seconds. From 500/200 and 125 seconds
-Chaos Aspiring Champions and Space Marine Sergeants now benefit from the bionics upgrades (+20% health)
Furious charge should now be giving +15% damage bonus to chaos_knife_cultist and chaos_knife_tactical. 
-Chaos Heretic costs 0 supply cap, however there is a limit of 5 Heretics at any given time.
-Increased cost of Cultist, increased hit points, increased build time, decreased to starting with 4 units.  Increased base weapon damages by 30%.  Decreased min damage on Cultist Laspistol from 2.5 to 1.5.
-Increased time cost of Cultist Aspiring Champion.
-Reduced Cultist Grenade Launcher damage by 35%.  Increased build time of Grenade Launcher.
-Increased damage output of cultist plasma gun, slightly increased cost.
-Defiler hitpoints increased from 2300 to 2700.
-Defiler now costs 2 Support cap.

-Reduced cost of Possessed marines, decreased attack/hp/build time accordingly.
-Reduced cost of Horrors, decreased attack/hp/build time accordingly.
-Reduced melee damage of Raptors against building low.
-Rhino now costs 1 Support cap.
-Smoke Grenade research time/cost reduced.

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bah....too bad cultists can still be abused lol
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yeah chaos sux at the very begining of the game.

Scout rush/abuse = gg chaos/go home and cry cry.gif

chaos will not get a single strategy point.

but if chaos can survive to tier2. grenede launcher is
coming to abuse all infantry and heavy infantry.
Sweep off our troops in a few seconds.
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hi,
Just wanted to know if the matchup brackets are going to be released soon?

Thanks

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My team is called "Marine Poppers" for this coming tournament. We are looking forward to see other teams next week. What other teams am i going to expect next week. We are playing as Space Marines.

Im the Force Commander of the team. 10 years of experience in wiping out aliens and rebellions of the Emperor.

Spicing things up before the tournament starts. Where are all the contenders?

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Is this tournament open to all humens laugh.gif or
Malaysian Only?



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results and report of the Melaka and Sabah State Prelims are available on:

http://www.neweragames.com.my/

Sorry, no replays but we will make sure that the replays from the Official National Tournament will be recorded.
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can u guys tell me which race is the best? i mean the best for newbie to got at least a slight chance to ownez more experience player?
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personally, the space marines are the easiest to play but not necessarily the best among all the races.

it depends on your strategy and skill.

you better send in your entry form asap, we're down to the last few brackets.
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HI All!

I'm working on the schedules now.

Will try to post it by wednesday!

Registered contestants, we will also send u an email.

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The easiest to play are the space marines as they have an all-round excellent basic trooper. The thing that will tip the game balance is not the units but how you manage the units so if you haven't been practicing i cannot help you ^^".

We've been practicing like idiots for the tourney because as far as i remember if the whole of Subang shows up i might as well pack my bags and go home and sleep. I would like to just get past the first round of games and i'll be happy.

Hmmm *reads results of Sabah, Penang and Melaka*

Very suspicious looking these battle reports. They look like and copy and paste thingies with the name of the teams and number of participants changed. I hope that doesn't happen in the finals!!! We want details like slaughter horror stats and how long the winning game took. We want to know what the final players played that sorta thing. ^^" Whatever the case this will be my last post here unless its an emergency. Good Luck for the tournament guys. Lets Make it Good.

The teams We're sending in will be:


WGS St Johns
WGS T.T of Doom
WGS Shazandy
WGS Lost in Space
WGS Irregulars


Don't hurt us too much. See you on the battlefield.


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Hahaha... what cut and paste ? tongue.gif

Just to update for KL finals, we will be allocating 3 x 30 minute rounds, Best of 3, single elimination style.
At the end of 30 minutes, we will end the game and the winner will be based on the Team with the highest cumaltative score.

Teams to please check back on Wednesday for the schedules...

Blanks are spots deliberately left by me for emergency cases. Automatic walk overs are random (teams are chosen and inserted at random time slots).

Physical presence is recommended ( no proxies ) 10 minutes before match starts. At the time specified game will commence with "random" teams selected for player(s) not present.

If a player has won 2 matches consecutively, loosing party has either option of :

1- To play on the 3rd match: 'I think I can hurt you this time!'
or
2 - Not to play the 3rd match and conceed defeat : 'please don't hurt me no more!'
Should the loosing party not be present by the end of the second game, the third round will be automatically awarded to the winning team.

Replays will have to be recorded officially and each elimination round will have a sheet for teams to sign. [Will figure out how to post the replays in the fourms later on... hahaha...]

Questions ? Please come early to avoid dissapointment and to get the final update of rules at the event itself.

Tortoise.

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Just to update for KL finals, we will be allocating 3 x 30 minute rounds, Best of 3, single elimination style.

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If a player has won 2 matches consecutively, loosing party has either option of :

1- To play on the 3rd match: [i]'I think I can hurt you this time!'

or
2 - Not to play the 3rd match and conceed defeat : 'please don't hurt me no more!'
Should the loosing party not be present by the end of the second game, the third round will be automatically awarded to the winning team.


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Very confusing. dont understand at all blush.gif

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it means it's a best of 3 matches. which ever team that wins the first 2 teams can opt NOT to play the third game if : tired or doesn't want to be hurt anymore.

paham?
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Is it still gonna be Anhilation VC?
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yes, annihilate!!!!

Kill 'Em All!!!!
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Jun 6 2005, 03:06 PM)
it means it's a best of 3 matches. which ever team that wins the first 2 teams can opt NOT to play the third game if : tired or doesn't want to be hurt anymore.

paham?
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I still dont understand. Can u use simple english? Thx


Q: What do you mean by best of 3 matches?


Q: Do we suppose to compete with a same team over 3 times to
judge who is the winner? Or We compete with 3 different team.
win 2 matches over 3 counted as we win.


Q: How do u choose winner No1 No2 No3? Is it choose from the
highest score of 3 matches from all competitor.


Can u give a good example?? Maybe other players can help me out?
thx

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I still dont understand. Can u use simple english? Thx
Q: What do you mean by best of 3 matches?
Q: Do we suppose to compete with a same team over 3 times to
  judge who is the winner? Or We compete with 3 different team.
win 2 matches over 3 counted as we win.
Q: How do u choose winner No1 No2 No3? Is it choose from the
  highest score of 3 matches from all competitor.
Can u give a good example?? Maybe other players can help me out?
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Erum. Wait till wednesday and the schedule will be out... smile.gif

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i went into the semifinal!!!! but lose....it's my first ever time playing and seeing and touching DoW: 40K...hahaha
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many players are fresh to DoW, with the different tactics and strategies encountered by human players as compared to comp players.

this weekend will see many more strategies and will be exciting for many to anticipate.


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Q: What do you mean by best of 3 matches?


Q: Do we suppose to compete with a same team over 3 times to
judge who is the winner? Or We compete with 3 different team.
win 2 matches over 3 counted as we win.


Q: How do u choose winner No1 No2 No3? Is it choose from the
highest score of 3 matches from all competitor.



JohnnyCP:

To answer your questions.

1: Means who win 2 games out of 3 games.

2: We have to compete with the SAME team 3 times then who win 2 will win.

3: This one have to wait for the tounament organisers to tell us.



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sorry guys, my team would love to join the competition, but i got exams on the 9th & 11th.. no time to prac with my team sad.gif...

to all other teams, good luck & have fun.
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err..did someone decided to bring their keyboard and mouse there?? hehe tongue.gif
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Jitan,

Are u 'imsure' (online name) ??

Long time didnt see u online.
maybe be we can have a friendly match tongue.gif

Good luck
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johnnycp..
haha.. now is 1.2 patch.. me and my mate always try something on new..
coz 1.2 and 1.3 big differences!!!

i not that good space marine anymore sad.gif...
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Enough with the time-telling. Nobody's coming here for a time update (Right below your post date at that... heh) and this isn't Kopitiam. The schedule will be posted, when its posted. Yelling out the times isn't doing anything.

Further spam will be deleted and poster will be warned.
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Hi guys...

here is the attached schedule in jpg format... apparently I can't upload a spreadsheet... macros I think they are scared of.


ANYWAYS...


ALL TO NOTE : [MUST READ!]

All Contestants to arrive 30 minutes before match begins for registration purposes. We reserve the right to refuse you your spot or give it away if u arrive less than 30 minutes before your first match.


There will be a 10 minute grace period for urgent toilet dissasters, etc...

Game segments are 1hr30mins each. [See the attached files!!!] In which time, teams are to defeat their opponents in Best of 3 games.

You have 1.5hrs to play 3 games.

SHOULD there be a TIE, at the 1.5hr mark. THE MATCH WILL BE STOPPED and scoring will determine the winner.

Should this prove undecisive in the best of 3 matches, there will be an additional 10 minutes given for a new deciding round.

[ie. TeamA wins first round. TeamB by score wins second round after 1.5hr time limit reached. So score is 1-1. Deciding match has 10 minutes to complete. After which the match will be stopped and score looked at.

OR

Team A wins first round, second round 1.5hr mark is reached, game is ended and total score Team A wins again, so score is 2-0 and Team A proceeds onto next round.]


If u win 2 matches, u don't need to play the third game...

JohnnyCP, any questions ? :> heehee...



Sorrie I slow lah that's why I'm called the :
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wowwoow..!
warhamster...which team name r urs???
and sumyee..which team name r urs??
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QUOTE(jitan @ Jun 8 2005, 06:43 PM)
wowwoow..!
warhamster...which team name r urs???
and sumyee..which team name r urs??
hehe..smile.gif
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my team name is Destiny and what is ur team name?? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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My team name is ENET, I have participated at Melaka, so I no need to Qualify at Kuala Lumpur : ). Why I didn't see you online nowadays ..? Did you change your nick name ..?

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ohoh. my team is EC, donno what nick is that..no meaning..tongue.gif
then we wont play with each other during friday..unless we all qualify to final (just hope)...haha.
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sumyee,

u play w40k online too??? what is ur nickname?
cani add u to my friend list??
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Aiya...H@H@ so strict one...heheheh

And tortoise thanks for putting up the schedule, just joking one about being slow...tongue.gif
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Hi guys!

Now the schedule is out.

Please come early to register. This will be a big help for us.

Also feel free to stick around and watch the matches. (still trying to convince management to let me put up some chairs for people who want to watch)

Other bits to note:

Gamers are required to bring their IC or Passport as proof of identity and sign for their shirts and goodie bags.

Replays will be recorded on the host PC.

Scoring (when needed) will be taken from the host PC (will be the first to end game by marshalls).

We've done up a per game sheet to sign. which details, team name, PC assignment, time, races, replay file name... which u will need to sign at the end of EVERY match whether u win or lose.
If u have any protests/accusations, please write it down on the sheet.

REMEMBER there is a time limit because we do not want to make other contestants wait too much. So be considerate don't toy around with your opponent and just KILL THEM and put them out of their misery. Game Marshalls will be able to tell you how long of you 1.5hrs u have left... I will also instruct them to tell you at the 1 hr, 30 mins, 15min, 5 min marks



oh and btw the DOW shirts, are straight from the factory so erum... if u want to wear it immediately and don't want to smell of fomaldhide (sp??) please bring your favourite scents/perfume (eg. Channel No.5, etc... ) I'll try to get an aserol of deoderant for those who forget... smile.gif


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sleep.gif"

Obviously someone no sense of humour...


----->H@H@<-------

dunno who ler... laugh.gif


^^" anyways, everything sounds good for the competition. Here's hoping there will be no major hiccups. Yar.. please put chairs ler... what happens if the players got girlfriend? Don't tell me must make them stand for 90 minutes lor... Or maybe even parents show up to watch O_o!! aiyooo must make them comfortable....


hehehehe.

See you guys on the battlefield.


eh tortoise, just want to let you know my group thinks you've done a bloody good job so far. Hope to see you there so we can thank you.

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Waa...my team picked against Summer Dream. Is this the team that won the DOW LAN party last week in Summer Dream Klang?

Aiya..die la like this..nevermind at least i get free goodies..tongue.gif

p/s Tortoise belated thanks from us for puuting us in the Saturday schedule..cheers mate smile.gif
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QUOTE(JonyFinger @ Jun 9 2005, 11:43 AM)
Waa...my team picked against Summer Dream. Is this the team that won the DOW LAN party last week in Summer Dream Klang?

Aiya..die la like this..nevermind at least i get free goodies..tongue.gif

p/s Tortoise belated thanks from us for puuting us in the Saturday schedule..cheers mate smile.gif
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Hahaha... honestly I have no idea... i just tried to mix up the clans... so WSG dun fight each other in the first round and then just random give placing...

I think there's a Summer Dream 1 and 2 now.... just added two teams to the last 2 spots in Friday....

We're officially FULL...


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Good Luck To All Who Versus X3M team and ENET Team at the National Final thumbup.gif
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johnnycp... who is x3m team? great ah??? must very powerful..mm...
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QUOTE(jitan @ Jun 9 2005, 07:09 PM)
johnnycp... who is x3m team? great ah??? must very powerful..mm...
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so far i only win them 1 round out of 12+round blush.gif

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So what's the latest news on today's group...

Any clear favourites yet?
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tortoise, king kong..
when can we watch the replays?? after the tournament finish??
so anxious to watch it!!
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QUOTE(JonyFinger @ Jun 9 2005, 11:43 AM)
Waa...my team picked against Summer Dream. Is this the team that won the DOW LAN party last week in Summer Dream Klang?

Aiya..die la like this..nevermind at least i get free goodies..tongue.gif

p/s Tortoise belated thanks from us for puuting us in the Saturday schedule..cheers mate smile.gif
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i know the champion from Summer Dream...he likes to use the Eldar...and colored it all BLACK...that guy from melaka one anywayz...

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anynews from today?? whose team get qualify to final??
and what is tomorrow schedule plan?? same with friday and today??
..mm.. no news.. sad.gif..
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QUOTE(jitan @ Jun 11 2005, 10:32 PM)
anynews from today?? whose team get qualify to final??
and what is tomorrow schedule plan?? same with friday and today??
..mm.. no news.. sad.gif..
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Jitan,
Is it true that ur team is sponsor by
ATI, AMD and petronas ??

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where u hear that news??
haha.. we don have anyone sponsor us ah... we not that lucky biggrin.gif
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so what time the Finals start today?
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Izzit possible for the game organiser to post the replay files somewhere we could download it? Really wanna watch how those pros play, btw. how to play back the replays? noob question here, sorry for that sweat.gif
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Congrats to X3M!!


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1st Place: X3M
2nd Place: eNet
3rd Place: Emperor's Hammer

Pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/fat...national_09.jpg

I've a few more pictures of the event, including a few more of the 1st place winners so if the 1st place winners X3M want larger pics of themselves (1024 X 768) without the copyright mark, just PM me and let me know.

It took about 45(!) minutes to determine the 3rd place winners, because there was a 3 way tie, so the organisers had a 2 on 2 on 2 battle. Compared to the match between the 1st and 2nd place winners which took only 10 minutes, the 3rd place match seemed more epic with hundreds of soldiers filling the screen.

I saw the organisers saving the replays, so hopefully they should release it soon.

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hi all,

replays and photos will be up later this week if not next week. huge amount of replays to sift throught and label, do give us some time...

anyways....

New Era Malaysia and HP Malaysia would like to thank ALL the GAMERS, and WARHAMMER fans for making the DoW Official National tournament a huge success. we wouldn't have done it with everyone's involvement!!!

we will improve on our next tournament (yes, plans are underway once Winter Assault is released). with our experience, we are confident that we will have a better tournament next time around.

so everyone, thanks very much and stay in touch.
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haiz. the pro from sabah so easy can get RM500 ..............
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I would like to thank new era for hosting this competition and giving all DOW players a chance to compete, and also I would like to thank all players who came down to play, well played, many good games. Hope to be back next time.

Thanks
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All the good pictures that I took of the DOW National Tournament, zipped for your convenience (5.31 MB). Enjoy guys!

EDIT :: W40K:DOW National Pics

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Just a quickie post of the 2 promoter babes we had there...

DoW Malaysia Promoter Babes

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Did u come and take a photo wif them ?

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aw man, the photos are so dark....

boo the cameraman!
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shit why so dark leh??

maybe those picture is taken when power failure LOL!

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hello DOW fans,you guys should look into the real Warhammer 40k game which is the tabletop miniature wargaming,it has wider range of gaming and yes you get to paint your own marines,orks,eldars and chaos.Well if you are interested feel free to drop by games circle(nearby Atria,on top of sports toto),toys in motion(1utama new wing 2cd floor,opposite Yamaha,near U parkson) or you can pm me.=)
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hmmm, miniatures.... no $$$ ler.
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Looking for malaysua DOW clan.
is there any clan recruting?
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good work king kong, now i know where your nick came from. hope to see more clans outside the tournament . need to look for a supportive cyber cafe to bring all the clans together.
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Jun king, gg and thanks for the invitation.
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anyone know got anymore dow event recently?? hehe.. so miss the tournament day.. hope can play again..hehehe! all rematch!!! biggrin.gif
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you want another DoW event. well, there could be one in future but most likely:
a) late July
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c) after Winter Assault.

only 1 way to find out, register on our website: www.neweragames.com.my to get updates!

alternatively, here.
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hahaha...ok ok smile.gif.. hehehe!!
yeah..we waiting for winter assault..
and winter assault got one extra race..
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Hmm banebalde isnt good enough they should put a Thunderhawk Gunship and some Characters like Lysander,Tigirius and some venerable Dreadnought
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I was wondering, after this recent tourny, i was hoping In2 will reconsider their decision to put DoW back into their WCG game list, this may be a futile atempt since from what i heard from the guys at new era last week, it seems there is a alot of internal problems.
Why not new era just host the WCG dow prelims, since In2 dont want to. Not sure about all this but i am still hoping for malaysia to send some players for DoW to represent.

Thanks.
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hi all, (my first post laugh.gif )
yea nice idea, i do support it.
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i hope it works...
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Huh?? Where is the replay??
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No picture for the states prelim in Lowyat hah?

Still waiting for replays lor.....tongue.gif
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Also checkout www.mygozone.com for their coverage of the tournament in Lowyat......there's pics!!
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Thx JonyToes
Keep this forum up to date
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man!!! replay replay replay!!! sad.gif
no news...
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Just zip the replay and post it here
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yeah.....that is enough..zip it then we can download.. lol!~
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we're waiting for our webmaster to prepare everything. he's got other work to do but it'll be up later this week.

keep your eyes out for it. it'll be there when's it's ready!
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I was wondering since the tourney in low yat is a 2 vs 2 so will future tourney will be only 2 vs 2?
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maybe yes, maybe no. most likely yes as a 2 player team has more interesting strategies to watch as opposed to single player tournaments which are boring.

would everyone else like to vote on it?
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2v2 and 1v1 BOTH!
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i think a 1 vs 1 would be nicer where we can see more micromangement. Unlike 2 vs 2 is all about who to gang bang and etc.

Also when i saw the tourney is kinda boring as the outcome of the game is already decided less than 5 min...



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1 v 1 would finished even faster. I think to make it more interesting and more enticing (i.e. big battles) is to scrap the Anhilation VC and make it Take Hold or other VC....
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hmm, interesting feedback. keep em coming.
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I dunno about you but from my experience playing online i learn than 1 vs 1 is alot longer than 2 vs 2.

Also i prefer 1 vs 1 as its there more micromangement than 2 vs 2. Much more challeging than 2 vs 2 as you rely more on who has the most troops.
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from my experience 1v1 and 2v2 both is same.
when u facing an oponent as strong as u
then the game took very long time. but if 1 too strong and another
is damn too weak, It doesnt matter 1v1 or 2v2, it will be last in 10minutes.

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well hope you guys dont mind my 2 cents worth :-

i think 1vs1 offers hardcore micromanagement, whereas 2vs2 offers diverse battle tactics. this depends on the players experience. Both however is enjoyable to watch. It would also be nice to see other win trigger games such as Take and Hold and etc.

Reading other DOW forums and watching the E3 movie on WA, i think the IG will be the race to take down the Eldar (bad news for Eldar fans). I guess this will end all the shouting of Eldar being OP.


wanted to ask you guys if WA would have a new cool intro movie like the awesome intro movie in DOW?

another thing, is there anyone creating custom maps for DOW?









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The Winter Assault will have a new intro made by
Blur Studio. Both WA and DOW intro is done by Blur Studio,
a division from Blizzard Entertainment.
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I also suggest a 2v2 and 1v1. But please use ladder settings for 1v1, one of the main attractions of DoW is that there is more then 1 possible way of defeating your enemy, not just by wiping them out completely.
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For me, 1v1 and 2v2 is great..and they are big differences..
1v1, u need manage your army, resources very well... as well as in the war.. everything is under your control..
for 2v2, u have understand your partner and work as teamwork.. strategy plan is totally difference from u play 1v1...
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Reading other DOW forums and watching the E3 movie on WA, i think the IG will be the race to take down the Eldar (bad news for Eldar fans). I guess this will end all the shouting of Eldar being OP.
Yeah and because of imperial guard we are gonna have alot of turtles in the game. just imagine a take and hold senario the IG will just quickly pump troops and send all of them to the crit point and just stay there..

I never really like take and hold cause it kinda cheap like i remember when i was fighting an eldar. I was winning then when i was trashing their base they just teleport their stuff to the crit point and by the time i run all the way back to the crit point i lost... ( the map was a big map so they had time to build up their troops there also makiing the crit point well defended.


it would be great if the tourney can host both 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2 but i wonder do you guys have the funds to do it or not.

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The Winter Assault will have a new intro made by
Blur Studio. Both WA and DOW intro is done by Blur Studio,
a division from Blizzard Entertainment.


Any ideas what the intro might be like, cause i just loved the intro to DOW. It was beautiful, i was just shocking.gif to see it.

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I also suggest a 2v2 and 1v1. But please use ladder settings for 1v1, one of the main attractions of DoW is that there is more then 1 possible way of defeating your enemy, not just by wiping them out completely.


For 1v1 this is so true when it comes to larger maps with diff win triggers but this multiple war tactics only are seen from expert players who have learned to deploy diff. tactics to dominate his/her enemy.

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For me, 1v1 and 2v2 is great..and they are big differences..
1v1, u need manage your army, resources very well... as well as in the war.. everything is under your control..
for 2v2, u have understand your partner and work as teamwork.. strategy plan is totally difference from u play 1v1...


1v1 doesnt really go your way eventhough you have managed your army and resources well. I was playing against a guy who would continually harass my army, SPs and was able to do hit and run tactics at my base and my econ was great but his tactics was more superior. As for 2v2, youre right about understanding your teammate. A weak teammate, would normally end up in you fighting the entire enemy team's army.

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I never really like take and hold cause it kinda cheap like i remember when i was fighting an eldar. I was winning then when i was trashing their base they just teleport their stuff to the crit point and by the time i run all the way back to the crit point i lost... ( the map was a big map so they had time to build up their troops there also makiing the crit point well defended.
Well u know what that tactic is so common online. I think ppl dont understand that eldar is suppose to be played like that. this is because the eldar race is so weak when it comes to melee that if a player knew how to micro then damn well, that person could rule the other races. kepp in mind, the eldar race is the specialist army in DOW. Well just my opinion.



I was hoping to see TAU in the expansian but its ok, any new race is better than none. BTW is there anyone out there making maps or mods. just wanted to know if there are custom maps being made by anyone.




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well u can go to the DOW official website as they have link to many mod site

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1v1 and 2v2, BOTH. I think they both have competitor AND spectator appeal:

- 1v1 is purely about the RTS skill of one player against another. It makes for exciting watching of tactics and execution.

- 2v2 is a fine combination of skill and teamwork. Watching these are great, with bigger battles and different race combinations.

Most importantly, I think automatch rules need to be set. Take & Hold is too fun a victory condition to ignore - in fact, I feel it's fundamental to DoW. Wars are about fighting over positions and points, NOT about destroying the enemy to the last man (or building, in this case).


I've been watching the posted replays, and I have a question to the organisers. I've noticed that some teams change their races during the tournament. Is that meant to be?

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Replay? What replay?

Where's the Replay?

Edit: Ok found them...... blush.gif blush.gif

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there were no race restrictions for each team, only that they are not to set them at random. a few rounds at the beginning had random races but it was later not allowed.

2v2 and 1v1, sounds a little hard to do with so many players and teams....
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i wonder why random is not allowed?
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i wonder why random is not allowed?


Thats a good question. I really wonder why random was not allowed.


Do you have statistics of the most commonly used race in the tourney? just wondering which race is the most preferred race in the tourney.


















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I would say Space Marines.....
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Thanks for the response, King. That begs more questions, though:

1) Why is random not allowed?

2) Why do you allow changing races during the tournament?

I'm asking because the fact that you're allowing race changes makes it potentially very messy - team A could change on seeing team B's races, and then team B responds to that change by changing, and team A changes in response, repeat ad nauseam. Of course, that didn't happen, so that's good.


Hunt : I too would think that it's the Space Marines. Chaos would be the next most common race - alot of SM players would sometimes switch to Chaos, depending on the match-up. I think Eldar's the 3rd most common, but I'm not sure.
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random is not allowed because it prevents others from seeing the other team. it's a standard rule followed by other RTS's like Warcraft 3.

team changing is allowed, as each race combination require different strategies to counter. startegy is the beauty of this game...
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Jun 28 2005, 09:23 AM)
random is not allowed because it prevents others from seeing the other team. it's a standard rule followed by other RTS's like Warcraft 3.

team changing is allowed, as each race combination require different strategies to counter. startegy is the beauty of this game...
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Actually, playing random *is* a strategy as you have the element of suprise. Your enemy will have to waste one unit at least to scout out what you are, thus wasting one worker that could be better spent doing something else. The downside to playing Random of course is that you yourself must be extremely familiar with all the races of the game.

And the WCG doesn't disallow Random race selection for both DoW and WC3. But then again, these are 1v1 games where team dynamics are non-existant. - Damn these crappy eyes!!! Sorry, for misreading.
EDIT #2: Ah, my eyes aren't that bad after all... DoW doesn't have restrictions on playing random races...

PS. One of the biggest reasons why nobody likes Random in DoW is that it totally scews any opponent that plays Eldar and if you end up with Ork, you're done for wink.gif

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post Jun 28 2005, 01:24 PM

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The reason why random is not allowed in WCG (Starcraft/warcraft3) :
- Respect to the player.
- others already mentioend in above posts.


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"team changing is allowed, as each race combination require different strategies to counter. startegy is the beauty of this game... "
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Team changing shouldnt allowed, because of the imbalance issues between the races. People will take that as advantage to abuse more than strategy.


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Speaking of imbalances, 1.3 really nerfed the Orks to hell. It is really diff. to win battles with Orks. Now especially with the wartrukk rush gone, the Orks tier 2 units are useless as the other races would already have the counters for the wartrukks in masses.

the other races i believe, its pretty balanced. SM and Chaos should try not to flame everytime they lose to an Eldar. I believe because the SM and Chaos race tier 2 and tier 3 units will ultimately own all Eldar units after that. Seeing in 1.3, the defilers are now uber strong.

Orks on the other hand dont have a chance to see their tier2 units as they are forced into submission very early into the game. even bringing out Nobz aint gonna help them anymore.

I really hope this balance issue is solved when WA comes out. I really love this game and it would be a shame to see its fan walk away due to these minor problems.



about team changing, i think thats cool cause like King kong said

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team changing is allowed, as each race combination require different strategies to counter. startegy is the beauty of this game...


and thats a beautiful thing this game can offer that other RTS cant.




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QUOTE(king_kong @ Jun 28 2005, 09:23 AM)
team changing is allowed, as each race combination require different strategies to counter. startegy is the beauty of this game...
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As much as I love DoW, that statement actually makes DoW look shallow and undynamic...

If strategy is indeed a key part of the game, no matter which race you use, there should be an adequate counter within that race, and not by using another race. Switching races would mean that you are admitting that some races suck against other races and such.

An example of how forcing players to use the same race focuses more on strategy:
In the first round, Team B beats the living crap out of Team A.
So, in the 2nd round, if the races are fixed, Team A will be forced to think of something radical in order to overcome Team B. If he's unable to form a strategy that is suitable to ensure victory, then the game is broken in terms of balance as the odds were stacked against A to begin with. But, if he manages to pull something out of the hat and take the victory, then it shows how good a strategist that player is and how incredibly deep and rich DoW is in terms of strategy.

Now, if both teams were allowed to change races for the 2nd round, this would mean that Team A could basically choose a new race (Which requires a different playing style as well as strategies) to counter Team B. This would prove that whatever race Team A was using earlier was indeed "weak" as they immediately changed race the next round as their previous race wasn't up to the task. This in effect, would show how the races in DoW have very limited and stale strategies which in fact isn't the case.

And echoing meneverlearn's statement, yes it may lead to abuse as teams will just make teams that counter the immediate opponents team and not have to worry about the competition on the whole.

Just my 2 cents.
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I still dont get it...

using random is like a sort of double edge sword with Pros and Cons.

the good part if a player random is like mention above it gives the player a element of suprise as the enemy have to start with a general build order than once sending a scout to check the enemy he has to waste some time to change his build order to counter the enemy.

Well but the drawback is that what if your random race brings you to an disadvantage like e.g lets say your enemy is an Ork and u random become a eldar and the map got alot of heavy cover so you end up in a disadvatage as the ork can take advantage of heavy cover if the fight is not favoring them. ( i know they counter for all this iam just using this senario as a to show what i mean)
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I agree with H@H@ postings. If DOW is a true Strategy game, having random races wouldnt be an issue as they should have the necessary counter units against each other.

However, the fact of the matter is that, with all the Bugs and imbalance issues currently existing within the game, having random races assigned in tourneys would be an unfair advantage to any one of the competing teams.
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Where do you guys play DoW? Own LAN or CC? Any weekly sessions going on?

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As much as I love DoW, that statement actually makes DoW look shallow and undynamic...

If strategy is indeed a key part of the game, no matter which race you use, there should be an adequate counter within that race, and not by using another race. Switching races would mean that you are admitting that some races suck against other races and such.

An example of how forcing players to use the same race focuses more on strategy:
In the first round, Team B beats the living crap out of Team A.
So, in the 2nd round, if the races are fixed, Team A will be forced to think of something radical in order to overcome Team B. If he's unable to form a strategy that is suitable to ensure victory, then the game is broken in terms of balance as the odds were stacked against A to begin with. But, if he manages to pull something out of the hat and take the victory, then it shows how good a strategist that player is and how incredibly deep and rich DoW is in terms of strategy.

Now, if both teams were allowed to change races for the 2nd round, this would mean that Team A could basically choose a new race (Which requires a different playing style as well as strategies) to counter Team B. This would prove that whatever race Team A was using earlier was indeed "weak" as they immediately changed race the next round as their previous race wasn't up to the task. This in effect, would show how the races in DoW have very limited and stale strategies which in fact isn't the case.

And echoing meneverlearn's statement, yes it may lead to abuse as teams will just make teams that counter the immediate opponents team and not have to worry about the competition on the whole.
I agree with H@H@ posting as well but DOW races does have multiple strategies, the problem i feel lies in the fact that the ability for certain races to use their strategies are locked in their tier levels. Allow me to explain if you guys dont mind, lets use a battle between an Ork player and an Eldar player. The Eldar player has the mobility of their race to do specialized and concentrated attacks on the Orks whereas the Orks require their Waaagh to be red before they really cause wrecking damage. The Eldar dominance is at tier 1 till 2 and supported by tier 3(meaning their tier 3 just helps to enforce their hold on the map). The Orks will have to fight it out, to get to tier 3 in which their killakans, leman russ will able to break the eldar's iron grip control on the map. This is where the Orks shine cause in the midst of the chaos, the Orks infantry are able to sweep the area clean with their nobz. So in summary, Eldar will try to keep its enemy down and try not to let their enemy advance up the tier, which if it is not stopped it will guarantee the Eldar's fall. The Orks however really shine in full Waaagh and tier 3. In the 1.3 patch, Orks now mostly get owned very fast thus resulting in an easy kill for the Eldar race. Its in this situations, i would suggest for relic to take a look at the Ork race and rebalance them. I know this upsets a lot of Ork players and also is trouble for tourneys cause that might be a balance problem.

But i would i rather have the tourneys in fixed races as that will show how DOW is superior than other strategy games.(i say this cause i love this game so much). Another reason to have fixed races would really allow players to use multiple different strategies than the same strategy over and over. Fixed races will be so cool for 1vs1.

Fixed races will might not work for 2vs2 because ppl tend to use that which guarantees them victory and most ppl are lazy to think up new ways of defeating their opponents. I think this is because the teams are most likely to combine their army and use the units that will counter the enemies units such as how warp spiders are monsters against Orks.

For the record, DOW still has some balance issues that need to be addressed. I just hope it will be addressed and not ignored cause this is such a good game that totally took strategy games to a higher level. Also hope WA will contain the patches that will once and for all solve this problems and give us endless hours of fun. smile.gif




Well im hope i didnt offend ayone. if i did im sorry.
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No apologies needed Hunt...

This is a Forum and you have very right to give your opinions tongue.gif
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wink.gif hmmm, after reading all the comments here, i must say i have to take whatever i said back.

everyone here has a valid point for fixing races, we might look into that next time.

it does makes the game fairer as strategies used become more, consistent.

thank you so much.
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Winter Assualt will be out before WCG grandfinals in singapore, and from what i have heard from some of my online friends, there will be a patch for Dawn of War that comes with the expansion. So hopefully any outstanding issues will be resolved in time for grand finals.
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QUOTE(Ctrl-Alt @ Jun 29 2005, 11:20 AM)
Where do you guys play DoW? Own LAN or CC? Any weekly sessions going on?
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Well my friend and i play at dotcom 9 in O.U.G

We kinda go on saturdays and sometimes weekdays(when we can).


Well i nowadays usually play online in segmentum solar.

My friend and i are still looking for local LAN ppl to play with

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QUOTE(Ravana @ Jun 29 2005, 11:56 AM)
Winter Assualt will be out before WCG grandfinals in singapore, and from what i have heard from some of my online friends, there will be a patch for Dawn of War that comes with the expansion. So hopefully any outstanding issues will be resolved in time for grand finals.
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Too bad no one from Malaysia gets to go to the WCG Grandfinals.... mad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(Ctrl-Alt @ Jun 29 2005, 11:20 AM)
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I usually play at SS15 but sometimes i'll be in Summer Dream, Klang (usually weekends)

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QUOTE(Ravana @ Jun 29 2005, 11:56 AM)
Winter Assualt will be out before WCG grandfinals in singapore, and from what i have heard from some of my online friends, there will be a patch for Dawn of War that comes with the expansion. So hopefully any outstanding issues will be resolved in time for grand finals.
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I'm pretty sure they won't use whatever patch that comes out as its too near the competition for teams to adapt... Plus, the patch has to come out considerably earlier than the earliest prelims to allow teams to practice on it. You can't suddenly change versions after some teams have gone through certain stages of the competition.
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QUOTE(JonyFinger @ Jun 29 2005, 12:24 PM)
Too bad no one from Malaysia gets to go to the WCG Grandfinals.... mad.gif  mad.gif
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What really sucks is that they removed DOW from the competitions here.

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this really bites.

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How about a Online DOW contest??
Encourage more ppl buy original games

Kingkong raise both ur hand, shake ur butt and show strong agree
to my post smile.gif


Ravana is Top20 of online ladder now.
He will rip off all ur head notworthy.gif thumbup.gif

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Nah, I wont rip off your heads, besides almost everyone says that eldar is imbalance and is easy to climb ladder with it, i agree to that to an extent, that is why i am also playing the other races on some smurf accounts. In fact, i recommend playing all sides, it really is very fun, you will be able to see how it feels like to be a space marine player and being slowly tortured by a high lvl eldar player.
Then when you go back to play eldar, you will find that it is so easy to play against space marines.
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Honestly, i really like the way u manage ur squad and economy.
i try to follow ur step, but i fell sad.gif

i always forgot something when i put too much concentration on the otherside

eldar is the most hardest to control ur army. stupid TAB-F TAB-F.
the more i press, the more messy it is. LOL

maybe my finger reaction is slow. time to go see doctor:)
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King, I acknowledge you for your open-minded acceptance of our arguments. It's not often I see people go "yes that's a good idea, better than what I used to think", especially on forums.

Next: random races IS good! wink.gif I think, especially in a team game, that having a random race makes it a very interesting match. It would imply that the team having the random player would have practiced with all possible match-ups. And yes, the opponents would have to scout / recon the random to find out who they were, which is a fact of strategy games anyway.

King, will you guys be bringing in Winter Assault? Any dates yet?

Ravana, congrats. You guys played one hell of a game against EC Team in the tournament, that replay made great viewing.

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Random race?? No pls
but if it is online automatch, then YES!. you dont know mine and i dont know urs

if it is custom game, you use random and i choose one of 4 race. you already know my race. so it is unfair.

It is better to choose ur race when u register the tournament,
after that it is fixed.


ahhh shit, anyone understand what im talking about.
my english is so poor



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i have some replay posted at dow.sanctuary-network
can u comment some, i really play like a shit
anywhere my name is warhamster50k if u still remember
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Dont worry johnnycp, i still remember you, we played quite frequently before the tournament. Well, basicaly you already play correctly, its just that maybe you need to improve on micro and buidling a stable econ, also a very important part in this game and i think most RTS would be timing, if you know what the enemy is doing at a certain period during the game, then you would know when to attack and when not to, this applies to games like the C&C series and even WC3+FT.

Just watch more replays, especially the high level players.

Also to comment on usage of random races, i believe random races is fair in all aspects, as said by someone before, it is like a double edge sword for the random player, unless that player is really god-like in all the sides then thats a different story, but having random really adds more flavour into the game, it introduces early scouting, since if everyone has their selected races then the element of suprise is not that great anymore.
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Nah, I wont rip off your heads, besides almost everyone says that eldar is imbalance and is easy to climb ladder with it, i agree to that to an extent, that is why i am also playing the other races on some smurf accounts. In fact, i recommend playing all sides, it really is very fun, you will be able to see how it feels like to be a space marine player and being slowly tortured by a high lvl eldar player.
Then when you go back to play eldar, you will find that it is so easy to play against space marines.


Ravana is a killer player, his advice is one for the books smile.gif

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I'm pretty sure they won't use whatever patch that comes out as its too near the competition for teams to adapt... Plus, the patch has to come out considerably earlier than the earliest prelims to allow teams to practice on it. You can't suddenly change versions after some teams have gone through certain stages of the competition.


I totally agree but it would be nice to know that they managed to address the balance issues with WA. It shows that they do care for gamers satisfaction. I just hate the fact that game developers dont care about making games last through the centuries and just concentrate on making more money. I still believe that Relic will do the right thing.

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hmmm, after reading all the comments here, i must say i have to take whatever i said back. everyone here has a valid point for fixing races, we might look into that next time. it does makes the game fairer as strategies used become more, consistent. thank you so much.


King your comments soothe a burn caused by imbalances. biggrin.gif
It is nice to know that tourney organisers take time to allow our opinions show its impact in your decision making. dont take this the wrong way, its a compliment.

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Also to comment on usage of random races, i believe random races is fair in all aspects, as said by someone before, it is like a double edge sword for the random player, unless that player is really god-like in all the sides then thats a different story, but having random really adds more flavour into the game, it introduces early scouting, since if everyone has their selected races then the element of suprise is not that great anymore.


Random races in DOW tourneys will be a nice change to the normal " i know what units hand you your armies ass"

Just wondering if anyone knows a good Ork strategy to use online. Just cant hold ground vmad.gif
When i play the other races, i always have a chance to turn the tide but thats not the case with the Orks.
Thought Orks was supposed to be a brutal CC race but every other race seems to kill the Orks like they were butter. By the time i melee with the enemy, i only have a squad with its morale broken. The 1.3patch really blowed the Orks strategy. Im still gonna try to climb the ladder with the Orks cool.gif


Hope you guys dont mind sharing intell.
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ork is a great race.. smile.gif
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Looks like everybody is busy.

I would really like to know some strats from the great warbosses of the Ork race.

once again if you guys dont mind sharing intel.





Note: the 1.3 patch also kills the strat to build the first webway in the start of the game for the eldar. anybody care to comment.

It also looks like the ladder will soon be dominated by Chaos players, thanks to the defilers.


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hunt.. wat race u r using?? can i know what in your nick in internet?
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can I find the Demo of this game from any website? I would like to play, but no time go Lowyat get one copy of it.

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you can get it here. but nothing beats the full version.

http://www.dawnofwargame.com/demo/
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QUOTE(jitan @ Jul 4 2005, 01:30 PM)
hunt.. wat race u r using?? can i know what in your nick in internet?
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I normally use Chaos or Eldar. My nic online is deville. I normally play around segmentum solar and gates of ......
I love both these races as their strats are much more dynamic than the other 2 races. But i have to agree, once the Eldar gains map control, you might as well say goodbye (this may be an imbalance).

dont like playing the space marines 2 much as i think they are quite uber the moment the reach tier 2 with dreads. you have to have significant econ superiority to outdo them.

trying the Ork race now and its difficult. i mean really difficult. i think my strat is still weak. hehe im just a noob when it comes to watching the X3M guys play. shocking.gif


jitan where ae u from? do u play online? whats your nic online? if you dont mind me asking, how old r u? i ask this because i got my ass kicked by a 17 year old using chaos. that boy was good.

Do you play LAN as well.
maybe we could hook up someday and try to play against each other? i know my ass is gonna be handed back to me on a plate, if youre a damn good warboss.



One more thing, i wanted to ask you guys, if anyone seems to be facing the problem where the game reboots the machine while playing some time (15 mins interval)
I will post the error message that windows logs into the event viewer the next time. This certainly is an ass pincher vmad.gif when youre fighting online and then the game reboots the machine.

I also seem to be facing quite a number of game disconnect. Is this normal or is this caused by gamespy?


another thing check out www.gamespot.com
they keep regular updates on DOW and WA


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Hunt,

why dont u ask me my Online Nickname
i do play online DOW
segmentum solar

hehe

my MSN is jasoncp83@msn.com

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Anyone playing LAN, PM me plz.
My friend and i would like to join for some mindless killing. Haha. TQ.
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u mean playing LAN by using hamachi?
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wat is hamachi? something vulgar?
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no hamachi is a program that lets you runs network with the internet

Why not we all set a special Lowyat.net warhammer gathering or something
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Jul 5 2005, 12:53 PM)
Hunt,

why dont u ask me my Online Nickname
i do play online DOW
segmentum solar

hehe

my MSN is  jasoncp83@msn.com
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Johnnycp, what is your online name?.
Well i dont mind playing with anyone. Just want to be able to climb the ladder with other races than Eldar as everyone now screaming that Eldar is OP online.

johnnycp, you sound like youve been playing for quite some time. You throwing me a bone? smile.gif

well i hope you dont mind me adding your name to my MSN list.
My MSN is a95shooter@hotmail.com





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no hamachi is a program that lets you runs network with the internet

Why not we all set a special Lowyat.net warhammer gathering or something


Where can i download this program?



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Anyone playing LAN, PM me plz.
My friend and i would like to join for some mindless killing. Haha. TQ.


Where do you normally play LAN?. Where do all you guys normally play?

My friend and i normally play at DotCom 9 at OUG and GamesWorld at SS15 on Saturdays. Its just the 2 of us. The other group of my friends love playing LOTR. I hate that game cause of the heroes. Trying to convert them to DOW.




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One more thing, i wanted to ask you guys, if anyone seems to be facing the problem where the game reboots the machine while playing some time (15 mins interval)
I will post the error message that windows logs into the event viewer the next time. This certainly is an ass pincher vmad.gif when youre fighting online and then the game reboots the machine.

I also seem to be facing quite a number of game disconnect. Is this normal or is this caused by gamespy?
that was my post.
I just wanted to know if anyone knows the answer or solution to this. Need to solve this problem. cry.gif
The error which is logged in the event viewer for windows says this is a memory violation.

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Memory violation?
2 causes come to mind, software 1st, hardware 2nd.
If other games play well without re-booting, we can discount hardware problem.
If it is only DoW, then we go by, "what was modified recently?"
Patches?

The last resort will be to cleanly uninstall the game sweat.gif and reinstall, yeah, I know how tedious it is to reinstall and re-apply the patches, but if it works, what the hell...

Just my 2 sen.



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What it is??
With Hamachi you can organize two or more computers with an Internet connection into their own virtual network for direct secure communication.

Hamachi is fast, secure and simple. It is also free.

Where can i download the program??

Click here to link the main website for more information

im here is not to encourage ppl buying pirated games
the original copy of DOW just rm79
get a copy today and u can get online to challenge some DOWpro

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QUOTE(Ctrl-Alt @ Jul 6 2005, 10:00 AM)
Memory violation?
2 causes come to mind, software 1st, hardware 2nd.
If other games play well without re-booting, we can discount hardware problem.
If it is only DoW, then we go by, "what was modified recently?"
Patches?

The last resort will be to cleanly uninstall the game sweat.gif and reinstall, yeah, I know how tedious it is to reinstall and re-apply the patches, but if it works, what the hell...

Just my 2 sen.
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Well other games seems to be running well. Im currently playing BattleRealms:Winter of the Wolf, War of the Ring, LOTR:battle for middle earth, Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory and Warhammer40k:Dawn Of War.

This only happens when i play DOW.

Well im gonna reinstall the game yawn.gif
Looks like i dont have any other option.

Anyone else here plays online
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Gamesworld at SS15...?

I'm usually at Rock Planet SS15 - mostly saturdays nights and most of the day sundays. There are usually a bunch of peeps there playing DOW...smile.gif
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Gamesworld's DoW still at 1.2 so can't get into Segmentum Solar to fight (can't update to 1.3). Just whack 1-2 rounds with my friend before the rest of the DoTA gang comes, then DoTA all the way, sigh...
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Warhammer is not relaly a popular game in cyber cafe in my area...
Most pll plays dota... Even my friends are still dotaing

Back to topic

As for me i only warhammer at home with internet. Honestly i woundt recomend online as a good solution for online gathering and etc. gamespy really is crappy i get players get drop out very often in gamespy. So i recomend to stay away from online for events.

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jul 6 2005, 06:51 PM)
Warhammer is not relaly a popular game in cyber cafe in my area...
Most pll plays dota... Even my friends are still dotaing

Back to topic 

As for me i only warhammer at home with internet. Honestly i woundt recomend online as a good solution for online gathering and etc. gamespy really is crappy i get players get drop out very often in gamespy. So i recomend to stay away from online for events.
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Which is your area?.

I dont see the thrill in playing Dota. Just dont see how a strategy game is reduced to a simple hack and slash. well sorry if i crossed any Dota fans

i agree with you. Gamespy is really bad. Its irratating when the game gets disconnected while youre intensely playing it. Besides i had the problem of the game rebooting my machine whenever it likes.

Well King remember you said you knew the dude in GamesWorld. smile.gif
You said you wouldnt mind talking to him about patching his wonderful original copies. that would actually allow those with slow internet to go down there and wage war, thus resulting in being able to meet other DOW fans as well.


Hope you dont mind asking you a favour, o mighty one of the forest. thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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oh my area is around damansara near KDU college. Only twice in my time there i see someone play warhammer matther of fact when the first time i saw the first pll play warhammer there i got hook to the game.


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Winter Assault Expension is coming soon
anyone going to buy it??
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sure buy. hopefully same price as original DoW.
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same price? it's an expansion my fren, u shud hope for lower.

well, i can't say that for sure cause i have yet to receive any information on the release and price....

but i will surely inform all you fans out there once we have a confirmed date and street price for WA!!!

pray it's cheaper... and did i forget it might be in Malay again?
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yeah should be lower man. RM40 ok la haha

when we can preorder WA??? I cant wait
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RM 40 that good!! drool.gif drool.gif buy i sure buy it got any new information pls infor us king_kong tongue.gif tongue.gif
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eh, rm 40 is a little pushing it guys...
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There cheaper it is, the more customer will come...

is there a gold edition warhammer40k come with DOW + WA
in the future?
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Are you crazy?!? OF COURSE I'M GONNA BUY IT!!!!!!!

It'll be even more classic if it was in Malay. I can't ever forget that line : Di dalam peperangan, hanya satu perintahan - anda mesti membunuh!

King, it's probably obvious but I highly recommend you sell packages of DoW + WA when it comes out. Makes it an incentive for "converts", if you know what I mean.

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Well what would be the price for it, king kong?

When is this due to be out for asian shores.

In malay doh.gif

The manual in the first one had so many errors, for instance the hot keys behind says when you want your units to run faster press 'delete'.. (yeah right)

Is there any merchandise that will be included with the game, maybe like a small IG painted statue. biggrin.gif

just a thought cool.gif





Note : johnnycp thats a cool gif in your signature. Is that the full cycle or just half of it. Another thing sorry dude i couldnt match up with you the other night, had to pull double shifts. I'll try to match up with you the next time. thumbup.gif






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IIRC, before the economic slump of 1998, expansion sets retailed at about RM40-RM60. Then after that it was RM60 - RM100 or so... In other words, the expansion sets usually cost about 60% of the original title.

So, RM50 would be a good deal for DoW...

Then again, Frozen Throne was sold at nearly the same price as the original (About 10-30 bucks difference only IINM) and ppl lapped it up.

Well, I'd probably get it anyway if you put it at the same price as DoW as its freaking cheap already. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Hunt @ Jul 12 2005, 02:26 PM)
The manual in the first one had so many errors, for instance the hot keys behind says when you want your units to run faster press 'delete'..
That's a pretty good joke, actually. If it was intentional.

I liked how "barracks" had 3 different translations. Burak and Barrak and Buruk and Berak, whatever lah. My favourite is still the "pendahaga darah".


Who does these translations anyway??
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who did the translations? beats me... i wasn't around when it happened.

anyone wants to translate it?


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why must the game traslated into BM??
stay with english ok la.

king kong,
my area PJ SS2, DOW is not very popular. I cant see anyone playing it nor the CC have installed it
maybe u can come to organise a mini LAN party at HorusSurf CC.
it might be attracted more ppl into DOW community
in addition with the cheap0 game price.

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QUOTE(king_kong @ Jul 13 2005, 09:57 AM)
who did the translations? beats me... i wasn't around when it happened.

anyone wants to translate it?
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I would like to take a crack at this..just for the sake of getting a proper translation done.

Also, for any material gains of course... tongue.gif
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material gains? a copy of Winter Assault?
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Jul 13 2005, 01:49 PM)
why must the game traslated into BM??
stay with english ok la.

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Its called localizing... That way, they can drop the price of the game seeing as it isn't the same as the American/Europe versions... Why? Because if they sold the American version at RM70 (About USD 20 only), lots of buggers would just import the damn thing back to the states and sell them at USD 40 (Which is still cheaper than the original price of USD 50) and make a profit doing so. So, by making "some" parts of the packaging in BM, ppl can't pull a fast one since its "localized" for us...

That's why Thailand can sell their games at such low prices (From what I heard, the game itself also is localized with Thai language instead of English, but I'm not sure about it)


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QUOTE(king_kong @ Jul 13 2005, 03:30 PM)
material gains? a copy of Winter Assault?
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That's why Thailand can sell their games at such low prices (From what I heard, the game itself also is localized with Thai language instead of English, but I'm not sure about it)


I bought a The Sims thai version when i was in thailand it was very cheap alright 30-40 RM. The games offer 2 types of lanquage Thai and English and the Instruction manual is fully thai.

My comment on the Warhammer in Bm is that the transalation is kinda poor. I think the transalator just directly transalate everything.

But the best BM word of the whole game is...

Dalam Medan Peperangan hanya ada satu peraturan
Anda mesti membunuh !!!

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Well, most likely the game manual and box will only be in BM whereas the whole game will be in English like before. It's a small price to pay considering that you're paying a relatively low price for a good original game, compared to the other original computer game titles on the market that go for RM130-RM250.

And yeah, the manual could do with a better translation this time around.
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Well, most likely the game manual and box will only be in BM whereas the whole game will be in English like before. It's a small price to pay considering that you're paying a relatively low price for a good original game, compared to the other original computer game titles on the market that go for RM130-RM250.

And yeah, the manual could do with a better translation this time around.
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I agree. Its better to have the original game cheaper as more ppl will be inclined to buy the ori.

But i would definately and surely would like the game in English and not BM. It would be really weird when my slugga squads screaming " itu dia manusia bintang datang"

i would just cry in sadness. cry.gif
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I think only the Manuals will be translated not the game.

That would take a lot of effort, to change the language of the game...
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gonna need new vocabulary if it were to be translated properly...

doubt it will ever capture the essence of the W40k...

then again, it'll be cheaper that way so can't have everything.

btw, where do you guys normally buy originals?

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Well i normally get my games at software boutique at SS2.
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i also buy ori games at SS2 software boutique only.
the cheapest i can find

Tentera Bintang serang!!! Tak boleh berundurrr!!!!
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SS2 offers quite a variety of games and besides the person there selling the games is quite polite.

Well im not sure about cheap. It seems like the same anywhere else.


Another cheesy line in BM would be " kereta kebal ini buat letupan yang terbesar, waaaagh"

I think i would die laughing, but if they made a local RTS game with the language as BM, it would be interesting.

DOW is made to use english as the TT was created by a brit


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laugh.gif imagine the eldar talking BM in their wierd voice ...

Farseer: "Saya sudah tiba!" laugh.gif

I got my DoW from 1U... heh
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You'd have to call it Lantak-Peperangan Empat-Puluh-Ribu, dengan bangsa yang baru - Penjaga Diraja!


But that is an interesting issue to pursue though: who does the translations for New Era Interactive?

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Me!!!.....hopefully

Translated into BM:

Saya!!....harapan penuh

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haha, this language translation sure is kelakar...
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How do u translate this:

"Take em' to me....so that i may.. render....judgement" - chaos lord


"semua mari mari, sini.. ada duit... bagi" - Tuan Kelam-kabut

LOL!!

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How do u translate this:

"Take em' to me....so that i may.. render....judgement" - chaos lord
"semua mari mari, sini.. ada duit... bagi" - Tuan Kelam-kabut

LOL!!
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LoL laugh.gif oh man this cracks!!

And so replies the Komander Kuasa, "Awas! Mahluk asing, mutasi dan orang sial." ?

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imperial guard

-The emperor protect!

( biar maharaja melindungi )

- We are the imperial guard, It is time we start acting like one.

( Kita adalah pengawal bekenaan maharaja, ini adalah masa kita bermula berlakon sepertinya)

Space marine

We are the emperor chosen

( Kita adalah pemilihan maharaja)

Purge, plague, Kill!

( Hapus, Wabak, BUNUH!)

And last the libarian

-hope is the first step to dissapointment

(harapan adalah tapak pertama untuk kekecewaan)

I wonder how to transalate the word Warghhh


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I wonder how to transalate the word Warghhh



i think it might go something like this....

Warrghhh - wahhhhhh


how about these lines.

we are the fastest and the meanest there is - " kitalah yang terpantas dan yang terkejam di sini"


Im tha biggest, so im tha Boss, you listen to me - " Sayalah yang terbesar, jadi sayalah ketua, anda dengar kepada saya"


Nobz are much better than smaller runtier Orks - "Orang hijau besar adalah lagi bagus daripada orang hijau yang kecil dan nakal"


why am i walking - "kenapa saya jalan"

Warrrrrghhh Dakka Dakka Dakka - " Waaaahhhhh tembak tembak tembak"


I think the units will be dead by the time they finish their lines. biggrin.gif

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yo, keep 'em coming. we could use this in the game next time.

WAAAAGH!
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Wow, nice traslation out there. New Era should hired them for WA translation haha
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maybe, worth considering, and cheap too for just one copy of WA.
muahaha.
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King-Kong,
do u play DOW online ??
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Jul 16 2005, 12:56 PM)
maybe, worth considering, and cheap too for just one copy of WA.
muahaha.
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Well an expansion pack for a game this good, i wouldnt mind. Atleast it will give me a shot at getting into relic.


hehe



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do i play DoW Online?

first question u shud ask me is do i play DoW...

hehe. no i don't play. fingers not as quick as they were...
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I suggest u go to see a doctor to check what problem with ur fingers
hehe..

u are the topic starter and u never play DOW?? ROFLMAO
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muahaha.

FYI, i started the topic for the tournament, but then this thread later evolved to be the official DoW thread.

i just don't have the time and patience to play now that Tortoise has gone back to Singapore, as he used drag us to play with.
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Jul 18 2005, 12:05 PM)
muahaha.

FYI, i started the topic for the tournament, but then this thread later evolved to be the official DoW thread.

i just don't have the time and patience to play now that Tortoise has gone back to Singapore, as he used drag us to play with.
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i wud get trashed anyway, which i did.

btw, try the flash game at the main page of the forums. quite fun.
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i wud get trashed anyway, which i did.

btw, try the flash game at the main page of the forums. quite fun.
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you thrashed, come on.

you trying to reel a fish in is it? haha
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make some online DOW contest for us thumbup.gif
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it's a pity DoW is gone from M'sia's WCG line-up. Somemore this year the games is held at S'pore.

damnatus........ vmad.gif

patch 1.3 being used for nationals... reign of Defilers?

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it's a pity DoW is gone from M'sia's WCG line-up. Somemore this year the games is held at S'pore.

damnatus........ vmad.gif

patch 1.3 being used for nationals... reign of Defilers?
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Well it is a real pity that WCG decided to remove DOW from their list. Hope they will re-insert it back into their list the next year.


biggrin.gif Reign of Defilers

Well in 1.3 the defilers are a little uber. But atleast the Eldar players now have a purpose to their strats. Stopping the Chaos players from reaching Tier2.
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QUOTE(Hunt @ Jul 22 2005, 08:56 AM)
Well it is a real pity that WCG decided to remove DOW from their list. Hope they will re-insert it back into their list the next year.
biggrin.gif  Reign of Defilers 

Well in 1.3 the defilers are a little uber. But atleast the Eldar players now have a purpose to their strats. Stopping the Chaos players from reaching Tier2.
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Defilers is overpower in 1.3 patch, if u play sm, chaos with 3 defilers and some choas space marine i think that is damn hard for the sm player and it is abuser no fun anymore. i wish the balance can be change. And nowadays DOW online is less player ..... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

i am playing choas now tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Defiler need to buff more. currently defiler is too weak.
it should be:

cost 1 pop cap
15sec build time
increase autocannon damage by 100%
4800hp


cheers.
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johnnycp..if happen that to defiler..everyone is dead....
somemore u know 1.3 defiler destroy ork base fast like hell...
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LOL, Orks should be the most underpower and the most pity race ever

watching the defilers tear down orks' paper thin buildings
and nothing can do to defend the base.

XD
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LOL, Orks should be the most underpower and the most pity race ever

watching the defilers tear down orks' paper thin buildings
and nothing can do to defend the base.

XD
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Orks were supposed to be the most unstoppable race in the entire galaxy. The move to remove the wartrukk strat in 1.3 by relic was a bad call. The Orks should command such awesome CC power but then now gets mowed down by any range unit. Totally unfair. Looking at DOW universe the only challenge the Orks ever had was from the tyranids.

Its just so sad to see so many ppl leaving the Ork race and going to chaos just because of defiler spam. cry.gif


how could relic not see this. Make the Orks uber again.

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I guess there's not much Ork players in Malaysia. It figures, its also hard to find Ork players and experts online. I think its because Orks now need much more micromanagement than Eldar. The Ork strats have now been drastically changed.

Any opinions ???
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Orks strat??? i do know 1 lol
make 4 squad of slugga boyz with nobz leader
set overwatch reinforcement.

rush ur oponent and sit back and watch those slugga
overrun ur oponent's base lol

only works for abusing n00bs


[attachmentid=67105][attachmentid=67106][attachmentid=67107]


see the orks walking style ROFLMAO

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nice, drawing. hehe.
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Orks strat??? i do know 1 lol
make 4 squad of slugga boyz with nobz leader
set overwatch reinforcement.

rush ur oponent and sit back and watch those slugga
overrun ur oponent's base lol

only works for abusing n00bs
[attachmentid=67105][attachmentid=67106][attachmentid=67107]
see the orks walking style ROFLMAO
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But if youre facing chaos, that rush might not work as by the time you get NLs, your chaos opponent would have three fully reinforced squads of CSMs and you would also need your BM to face their CL in any case. Without your commanders, no one can stand the intial rush without a turret. Even then, the enemy would change his strat to hold you in your own base. With that done, you could say goodbye to map control.

Well thats my 2 cents.
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hmmmmm.... how about Orks vs Orks

Hunt, wanna try this when u free? wink.gif


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I read in the Relic forums that Winter Assault expansion will be out in 2 month's time (mid-late Sept). I hope they have the Tyranids in it.
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hmmmmm.... how about Orks vs Orks

Hunt, wanna try this when u free? wink.gif
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sure no problem but i think i would have to try it out with you in some cybercafe as i wouldnt want my pc to disconnect when we are half way playing.

that would suck. Anyway i tried the Orks vs Orks today with some dude online. Its a stalemate and it only breaks to who gets their NLs first.

I found that by going all Shootas with BS's will own ork players but you have to ruch for your NLs. You would also need the More Dakka, More Blastier, Eavy Armour researched.
Its important to have the slugga squad with your BM full reinforced.

Well johnny try it out. Let me know what you think.
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QUOTE(arminvanbuuren @ Jul 30 2005, 01:45 AM)
I read in the Relic forums that Winter Assault expansion will be out in 2 month's time (mid-late Sept). I hope they have the Tyranids in it.
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Well its good to know that the date for its release is getting closer but i dont think tyranids is gonna be in it. The WA expansion will only consist Imperial Guards as the new race.

Sorry dude.

I was hoping to see the necrons.


here's a question. Wouldn't it be cool if relic did a RTS of warhammer(the medieval themed warhammer)

What do you guys think?
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nah i dont think it would sell out cos people will compare it more to warcraft 3.

hence people will say it a warcraft3 clone.

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the medieval version? hmmm, with so much stiff competition from Warcraft.... and the unique way of resource collection in DoW.... how would they want to introduce a more efficient way than the 2?

a strategic points in a medieval setting may not fit.
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Hunt,

Slugga and shoota boyz with BS upgrade will sweep off all infantry_medium and
infantry_high armour of infantry. after 1st lvl more blastier upgrade,
even Space Marine Tactical, Chaos Marines and Warp Spider also cant
take the damage. they dying very fast.

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guys..check out http://pc.ign.com/articles/637/637766p1.html winterassault.
if winterassault come out.. it will change everything...our strategy...plan...but it is really cool ^^
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jul 30 2005, 04:47 AM)
nah i dont think it would sell out cos people will compare it more to warcraft 3.

hence people will say it a warcraft3 clone.
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You see thats because every medieval game that comes out consist of the 4 most commonly used races which are the humans, elves, orc and undead.

As far as im concerned, i only enjoyed warcraft because of its storyline. Im a firm believer in storylines. The make the gamer more attached to the game. Now i believe warcraft has seriously gone to the dogs with the Dota crap.

I believe if the medieval warhammer was unleashed it would kick warcraft off the charts. However to do so, the relic team would need to put some serious thought in it.

QUOTE(king_kong @ Jul 30 2005, 09:14 AM)
the medieval version? hmmm, with so much stiff competition from Warcraft.... and the unique way of resource collection in DoW.... how would they want to introduce a more efficient way than the 2?

a strategic points in a medieval setting may not fit.


Well firstly instead of SPs, they could make it settlements. They would begin with a HQ like DOW and create structures in your HQ area but the key to the game is conquering the settlements(this will give the game realisticness as in those days, armies was gathered at your main base and not all over the place.)which will give you map control. These settlements could consist of other races which are neutral until they are captured and the creatures in the settlements would protect their settlements. After capturing these settlements, gold would be generated by the amount of resource buildings created in it. You could also create other structures like defensive buildings or army producing buildings which creates creatures which can be found at that settlement.

By doing this, you could have one settlement, totally dedicated to creating money while the other ones in the frontlines consisting of army creation buildings.

I believe this might work as Warhammer(medieval version) has quite a number of races and by implementing this kind of gameplay they allow all the races to be played. you could even cycle the races. What i mean is when youre playing a major race like the humans, you could set the map to have ogre settlements, You would only be able to attain ogres by conquering that settlement and if youre playing ogres as your main race, the settlements could be humans offering calvary.

Well i have more ideas for strategy games, just trying to fit myself with the skills that will allow me to unleash all these ideas to the world.

Well let me know what you guys think. Im sorry if i offended any Dota fans, i didnt mean too.

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jul 30 2005, 04:47 AM)
nah i dont think it would sell out cos people will compare it more to warcraft 3.

hence people will say it a warcraft3 clone.
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Warhammer medieval is a warcraft3 total clone??
i dont think so. warhammer TableTop Game is there already
for over 30years. i would say that, warcraft series is a
warhammer Tabletop conversion to PC RTS game

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well, people WILL still say it's a warcraft 3 clone cause they know NUTS bout the history of Warhammer.

just show ANYONE DoW and they'll say it looks like starcraft/warcraft.

tis is a fact frens, the Malaysian mentality. tak boleh lari.
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I hope New Era will make a bigger launch for WinterAssault with lots of advertisement.

Hopefully all ppl will know how is Warhammer40k universe looks like and become a popular game in cybercafes.

i dont hope much for it, just as popular as the C&C:General or Red Alert is more than enough. smile.gif


cheers.

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Jul 30 2005, 11:53 AM)
Hunt,

Slugga and shoota boyz with BS upgrade will sweep off all infantry_medium and
infantry_high armour of infantry. after 1st lvl more blastier upgrade,
even Space Marine Tactical, Chaos Marines and Warp Spider also cant
take the damage. they dying very fast.
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The problem is you would need to have NLs with those shoota squads and they would have to outnumber the enemies squads as because Orks morale last longer in large groups.

My strat nowadays is to rush 3 sluggas and 2 shootas with NLs and a BM. Shootas are equipped with rokkits and shootas with BS. this kills everything. One of the slugga squad is attached to the BM. The BM has to have kustom teleport and his range damage shield.

with this strat im able to bring in stormboyz easily and with NLs attached to them. The only problem i face is when the Eldar players warp their buildings to a more secure location.

Well give it a try and see whether it suits you
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Aug 2 2005, 04:17 PM)
well, people WILL still say it's a warcraft 3 clone cause they know NUTS bout the history of Warhammer.

just show ANYONE DoW and they'll say it looks like starcraft/warcraft.

tis is a fact frens, the Malaysian mentality. tak boleh lari.
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well come on Kong. Youre the man. You could sell ice to an eskimo. Maybe its about time Warhammer gets the marketing it deserves.

I for one would really like to see DOW kick warcraft's ass. As far as im concerned, warcraft died when that DOTA crap appeared.

I really hope you guys do another tourney when WA comes out. It would be a great way to market the game as you would get the malaysian pros back out to strut their stuff.
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 2 2005, 08:36 PM)
I hope New Era will make a bigger launch for WinterAssault with lots of advertisement.

Hopefully all ppl will know how is Warhammer40k universe looks like and become a popular game in cybercafes.

i dont hope much for it, just as popular as the C&C:General or Red Alert is more than enough. smile.gif
cheers.
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me too, me too
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More tourney pls....tongue.gif
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doesnt need to be tourney.
just do a little LAN party with contest. hehe

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Yeah a LAN party would be cool. It will also satisfy the goal of bringing all the DOW fans together and grow the community.


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Just wondering anyone going to the Asian Game Developers Summit?


http://www.agdsummit.com/
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is this winter assault an expansion pack? do i need the ori of dawn of war to play this?

wat's the pc specs?
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For the new DoW expansion, u need:
-Dual G-force 7800GTX SLI mode
-Athlon64-X2 4800+
-2GB Ram
-400GB free harddisk space
- and of course the original copy of DoW

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 6 2005, 12:05 AM)
For the new DoW expansion, u need:
-Dual G-force 7800GTX SLI mode
-Athlon64-X2 4800+
-2GB Ram
-400GB free harddisk space
- and of course the original copy of DoW
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Is this the specs released from Relic or your own dream gaming rig johnnycp. biggrin.gif
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4GB ram more likely lol smile.gif
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Why is the specs so high????.
I wont be able to play online then. Feel like wanna cry.
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Sorry,
it is my dream rig. is not the requirements for WA
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Well everyone has the right to have a dream rig. Too bad its not possible to make the dream come true all the time.

Wanted to ask you guys, what do you guys think of getting an alienware comp?
Ever wondered how DOW would run on alienware?
I bet it would be so realistic.

I really hope one day, hollywood would make a movie of warhammer. Especially with the story about the horus heresy.
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If u want to play warhammer at MAX details, u doesnt need
expensive comp like alienware.

see my rig configuration. u can play at max setting.

for graphic card, u only need Radeon9600Pro or equivalent speed.



But for the upcoming Age Of Empire III, probaly u need a rig something like below to play at MAX detail setting:

Athlon64 3000+ (S939) or pentium4 3200
Graphic card with 256MB frame buffer and have 12pipe
1.5GB RAM
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I cant wait for WA to come out. Im really waiting to see the new additions to the Ork race and praying they have done some good balancing this time around.

Well watching those IG units salute their commander as he runs by is something seriously cool. Watching the units breathe is great as well.

Well just reading the latest update in gamespot about WA and seeing how their strat is slightly like the Orks, i wonder if that was a good move. hmmm......
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There is a rumour that the orks' techtree will be
totally new.

imperial guard is a defensive race with lots of reinforce bunker
and u can ocupy the bunker with ur infrantry and shoot from inside
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IG sounds like China Infantry from CnC:ZH...tongue.gif
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QUOTE(JonyFinger @ Aug 10 2005, 12:34 PM)
IG sounds like China Infantry from CnC:ZH...tongue.gif
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IG is something like Red Army if u read the story

IG guardsmen only have light weapons and flak jackets.
They have only an option which is Kill or Die.
there is no retreat for them.
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 10 2005, 12:22 PM)
There is a rumour that the orks' techtree will be
totally new.

imperial guard is a defensive race with lots of reinforce bunker
and u can ocupy the bunker with ur infrantry and shoot from inside
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Oh man, i really hope they dont kill the Ork race by doing some weird techtree. The Orks have suffered enough. Hope could relic make a race which dominates three quarters of the galaxy into the most bullied race?




QUOTE(JonyFinger @ Aug 10 2005, 12:34 PM)
IG sounds like China Infantry from CnC:ZH...tongue.gif
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Well they are supposed to function like that.




QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 10 2005, 05:16 PM)
IG is something like Red Army if u read the story

IG guardsmen only have light weapons and flak jackets.
They have only an option which is Kill or Die.
there is no retreat for them.
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Well i think the IG in WA will have slightly stronger weapons or they would have to solely rely on their tanks to advance into enemy territories.




Well i just want relic to give this game the chance to be great.

smile.gif






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Where can i pre order WA in malaysia and what is the price???
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pre-orders haven't started, i'll let you know when and where it can be done.
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smile.gif

pre-order.......

waiting for the release date is giving me the gitters.

hehehe
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Aug 15 2005, 02:52 PM)
pre-orders haven't started, i'll let you know when and where it can be done.
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Maybe someone (hint hint) can organise some kind of event (hint hint) for the expansion release.... whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(JonyFinger @ Aug 18 2005, 11:39 AM)
Maybe someone (hint hint) can organise some kind of event (hint hint) for the expansion release.... whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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cosplay will be awesome in the event

jonytoes be the Slugga boyz,
kingkong be the chaos lord

cheers.
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and i guess you'll be the glorious SMs, isnt it johnnycp ?
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pig head Space marines?? no way LOL
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Well, the SMs are good for beginners but as you mature in the game, i think the players will have more fun with Orks and CSMs. Eldar will be fun to play once the get re-balanced.

Well thats what i think.


Do u think those newly added Ork units are going to be able to be used by players or just there for show as sometimes games dont get to go that long.
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i think The Mega-Nobz will be available in the multiplayer and single player game.

it will be the tier3 super duper heavy infrantry equip with
heavy weapon and power claw.
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DOW: WA changelog. translated from a german DOW forum

Ork Changes:


Orks begin with 15 Waaagh instead of 10
Each Waaaghbanner costs 165Req instead of 150Req (still has 800hp)
Each Waaagbhbanner still gives +10Waaagh
Waaaghbanner upgrade cost reduced (i think it was 50/20 instead of 50/50)


Changes for the techtree:

You need 45 Waaagh (3Banners) to build Nobs for ur squads
You need 45 Waaagh (3Banners) to build Mekshop
You need 55 Waaagh (4Banners) to build pikkup
You need 55 Waaagh (4Banners) to build trakks
You need 65 Waaagh (5Banners) to build Killa Kanz (HQ upgrade is not required!!!)
I dont remember how many Waaagh you need for looted tank (it was 65or75) HQ upgrade is required
As far as i remember you need 65Waaagh (5Banners) to build Nobsquad (HQ upgrade is not required)


Changes for the inf:

When the BigMek is built, he autmatically starts with his teleport (you don't have to buy this upgrade)
Sluggas cost 120Req instead of 140Req
Sluggas: decreased dmg (17-22 instead of 28-34)  less dmg than cultis (18-22)
Slugga cost 30Req to reinforce instead of 35Req
Shootas still cost 140Req
Shootas: increased range dmg (i think it was 28-33 instead of 25-30)
Stormboys do less CC dmg
Tankbustas cost reduced to 65/15 (don't know if this is for a full squad of 4members or just for one single tankbusta)

Sluggas can only be upgraded with burnaaas
Shooters can only be upgraded with big shotaaas
Tankbustas can only be upgraded with rokkits


Changes for the vehicles:

Pikk-Ups have 1950 HP
Trakks have 1850 HP
Trakks can be upgraded with bombchukaa (as far as I've noticed, they can't be upgraded with rokkits)
Pikk-Ups were a bit more expensive than trakks, but I think that trakks do a bit more dmg.


Changes for the upgrades (only the ones that have changed):

As far as i could see, there is no more upgrade for burnas or rokkits
More Choppy still costs 100/50 and has the same effect PLUS: Powerklaws for the nobs
The Upgrades for the BigMek (custom-force-shield + tankzappa-kit) is all in one for 75/75


I didn't see killabot, Looted Tank, Tankbustas, Waaaghboss, Nobsquad so I can't say anything bout them 


SM Changes:

Sniper-ability can be bought in the HQ (u don't need armory)
Heavy Bolters are only available at t2
Generator cost reduced to 135Req instead of 160Req


CSM Changes:

- Raptors can now be built wihtout armory
- Sacrifical Circle needs t2 to be built (i think that the costs were reduced)
- Machine Pit needs Sacrifical Circle to be built (cost reduced tot 200/100 instead of 300/100)
- Sorcerer is now built in the HQ
- no more flamer-upgrade
- no more Upgrades for Possesed (atleast there were no upgrades at t2)
- Predator cost reduced to 190/325 instead of 190/430
- Defiler cost reduced (dont know what the price is or what else has changed about them)
- Khorne Berserks need t2 to be built (they are built in the chapelle)
1Squad of Khorne Berserks costs 200/20, each further berserk cost 80/20


Eldar Changes:

Soulshrine now costs 250/150
WS can only be built, when Soulshrine has been built
Suport-Portal can be built when Soulshrine is built (U dont need Mobilize for War)
Falcons, Vypers and Wraithlords can be built without Mobilize for War
For Fire Prism, Mobilize for War is needed
U don't need Soulshrine to build Warlocks
Warlock-Upgrades are all in one (cost 150/150)

I don't know when u can build Firedragons or how much they cost, but 8firedragons raped my Da Boyzhut in 4seconds o.O


*all changes affect the WA expansion only.
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Raptors can be built WITHOUT armoury??

Damn...im switching to CSM man and then spam Raptors quickly for rush attacks
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man, it looks quite decent balancing to me. Still need to check it out while gaming. One thing for sure, Orks will be able to bring hell to Eldar once again and break the iron grip it has on the online ladder. I think they shouldnt reduce the stormboyz CC damage, they are already weak as it is. sad.gif
I can say that no one will be using stormboyz for combat, they will only be using it to capture SPs which are far away or stealing enemy SPs.

I for one am restless waiting for WA to be released.


johnnycp, what about the IGs.
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They didnt say much about the IG in the forum

from what i see, the IG guardsmen will have maximum
of 100 morale only @.@"

those changelog is not 100% confirm.
it is still in beta stage.
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I guess the IG's morale works something like the Orks, unbreakable when they are massed in huge groups or maybe IGs really depend alot on their commanders. Without the commanders, they'll get mowed down.

I think if their morale is ony 100, it justifies for the IGs to have devastating vehicle units.
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IG have bunker, which u can put ur troops inside and
firing from inside.

IG also have a type of armoured personel transport that
act like a mobile bunker. Put ur troops in and fire from inside.

Besides that, IG have alots of artilery tanks.
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a couple of rockets will finish the job efficiently. smile.gif
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couple of artillery units will makes u cant finish the job efficiently. smile.gif
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Well then the war of the artillery would begin. But i think i would lose as IGs looks like they have the longest artillery range.


Its good to know i have drop pods which can bring chaos to the artillery tanks

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EEEeeeeeee!!!!!!!
*Pulling my hair*

what should i do now????

RUN!! EVERYBODY RUN!!!!

Oh, call the Storm Troopers to here to finish off those Dreadnought smile.gif
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Hey no fair, no calling armies from other game universes. smile.gif
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huh???

StormTroopers is in the new expansion.
it is heavy weapon specialist.. i forgot what is the name for it
smile.gif

fair
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it's amazing to see this thread go on for so long already. anyway, i got some updates on Winter Assault.

New Era may not be localising the game!

price however, will probably be the same as the original DoW. steep but you get them in ENGLISH.

so, stay tuned for more updates.
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no localising?? so the price will going to be rm120+??






LATEST WA SCREENSHOT!!!
http://www.gamestar.de/aktuell/screenshots...?galleryId=1017

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Space marine can only build bolters at T2 WTHHH!!

Heavy bolters is the only weapon that Space marine have to counter Ork and Eldar... i hope they would reconsider that. At least pocess marine is now nerf down but i hope they would rework defilers is way to imba. Sorc in HQ ohno more sorc spam.
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wh-WHAT?!
T2 ?!
not even after armouries being built at T1?!
OMFGSWTBBQ-NESS!

...flamer SMs then? teeheehee....(though i think it's useless against masses.... >< wink.gif
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price, not sure yet...
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If it is RM120++, im not going to support original anymore sad.gif

long live pirated software...
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Here's an interesting piece of trivial info regarding the music of Winter Assault. They're giving it a lot of TLC


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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 29 2005, 08:06 PM)
If it is RM120++, im not going to support original anymore sad.gif

long live pirated software...
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hehe. If i used to be how i was before i would have supported your notion but i believe that the pirated software industry should just stick to ripping music and not the games as i firmly believe that we can grow our gaming industry here further and better without the hassle the pirated software industry gives to these game developers.

oh yeah!, johnnycp i think you mean cadian shocktroopers. smile.gif
stormtroopers!!!! i thought you trying to call backup from Lord vader. smile.gif


Well im not gonna get 2 excited until i see the changes fro myself when the game gets released. I think its gonna be a long ride. smile.gif

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speaking about star wars

I notice the Imperial Guard Sentinals looks alot like the star wars AT walkers use in the battle of endor.


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dart vader sux man...its face looks like
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dart vader head is painted in black..
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Well johnny cp, i agree that darth vader should have been more menacing.


The IG walkers may look the same but the universe is different and i think that there were walkers in the tabletop version of warhammer. so if youre thinking that warhammer ripped the walker from starwars. wrong. its the other way around.


Well king_kong with the release of WA, this thread is gonna flood again. smile.gif
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man... wouldnt it be nice if they have a feature movie for WH40k....zzzzzz
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OOOOhhhh how i hope and pray that the will be a movie of the Warhammer story of the Horus Heresy.

I think the movie will definately be censored to the max due to the violence.

Well theres always the DVD (pirates).....
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warhammer the movie.... it will be cool but with todays hollywood market it wont be pratical.

About a opening movie for WA i heard they would be one and i heard they said is gonna be great we just wait and see.

Anyway i hope with WA introduction more people will take more reckon of the game, i think nearly half of my frens in college have no idea of the game ( mind clouded by dota).

About the sentinels issue i not really sure At walker appear in 1983 in the Star wars the jedi returns while warhammer 40k table top is intoduce in 1987 so i really not sure who rip who off.

Anyway i look foward for another DOW event with the WA release it doesnt have to be a competition it can be lan party,gathering etc...
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i definitely know those dwarfs elves gnomes were all ripoffs from Warhammer Fantsay lolol
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Well a LAN party was what i wanted to suggest as well. Like a big gathering to introduce the game to the community and mix with other DOW gamers.

really stupid how ppl are addicted to the DOTA crap. i went to WCG to see what all the fuss was about and saw how DOTA was the main theme of the entire event, i was so depressed and sad that malaysians are only keen on money that they sell the integrity of the entire event to make a quick buck. so typical of us asians to do such a thing.

They cancel DOW to insert DOTA into the list of games to be played. whereas the rest of the world has DOW in their list of games to be played.
Why cant for once they realize that DOTA doesnt offer any real skill.

Well, i guess everyone is entitled to their own judgement, opinion and likes. Just feel so annoyed that the ppl which could change the gaming community in our country acting like such clowns.


Well to all who surrender their lifes to the Dark Gods, may WA add more fun hours to our course of extinguishing the flame of the Imperium

*DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR*




Well King_Kong i hope u can pull something for the release of WA. just suggesting.... nothing else...

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no localising for the expansion...good bye WA sad.gif
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hey come on. You're letting you love for the game be killed because they're not localising it. Well some battles have to be fought to see the cause.

Well i cant change your mind if you've decided that you will abandon the warhammer universe.

just hope you will change your disposition.


Either way, other games are trying to copy DOW gameplay and style.
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the only benefit of localising, price. it still doesn't affect how the game is and it is in fact better not to localise if you boys fancy the manual.

however, the most recent news i can relay is that there may be a localisation and the best part: manual may not be localised, it will remain in English!

nothing's confirmed yet... stay tuned.
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Tuned... it is going to be available locally within this month too? DoW website shows that it is available for order in the US, with selected retail outlets.
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I fail to see how the failure to localize this game is akin to killing this franchise... Frozen Throne wasn't localized and yet it sold like hotcakes.

The fact of the matter is, if you love this game, you'll buy it regardless of price (Do note, that this is NOT for publisher's who wish to pump their prices tongue.gif)... So, really, why are you guys b****ing so much?

If you're arguing that the original title, costs less than the expansion, then that's really too bad since its unavoidable... Then again, its still cheaper than buying other games+expansions which would be about RM250 (DoW + WA would probably cost about RM200 only assuming WA is sold normally)

I mean, did you guys love this game for the innovative and fun stuff they brought in, or just the fact that it was cheap?

I myself am still unsure as to getting this, I think I'll wait for reviews first.

Hunt: Just to clarify, DoW wasn't swapped with DotA... I mean, I think its despicable that DotA is even in the WCG, but it didn't take the place of DoW... DoW was dropped earlier and DotA was introduced later as part of the discussions between the Singaporean and Malaysian organizers.

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If DOW wasnt swap for Dota then why was DOW was remove in Msia WCG?
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Well i can surely say that regardless if this game was sold for RM 300 i would still buy it as imo there's no other game out there which is able to replicate its gameplay and excellent storyline.

Warhammer's storyline tends to run deep and intricate.


About the Dota issue. First of all, it was a stupid move to remove DOW as the DOW community was looking forward to waging war among each other at WCG.

Then, they did the second stupid thing by introducing Dota to WCG.

i thought WCG was suppose to have some self respect by bringing players who can pit hellish strats against each other. Introducing games that have serious gameplay. Not stupid timewasting crap. Sorry for my lingo but i just am really upset with the decision they made.


Well whats done is done.



king_kong. Im glad that there will be a manual and it will be in english. I would like to put my order for one down for WA. smile.gif

Well i hope you got something planned to launch this game like a mini-tourney. hehe
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Sep 5 2005, 09:01 PM)
If DOW wasnt swap for Dota then why was DOW was remove in Msia WCG?
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DoW was removed because of a lack of support. (Really, it was... ) Now, if you can honestly tell me with a straight face that you can get more ppl to join DoW than DotA locally, then I will concede my point. Like it or not, DoW is still a niche title locally, and unless you can get more mindless zombies to actually try something new (The only reason Warcraft 3 was so famous was simply because it was from Blizzard), you're never gonna get it mainstream... This is the fact of the Malaysian gaming industry, I've quit trying to introduce lesser known (But marginally better) titles to the masses already since its an exercise in futility since most gamers locally play what others play and not really for personal enjoyment.


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h@h@ has a point. M'sian players are very mainstream, it's difficult to get them to try new things and its also a Malaysian thingy... sad but true.


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yeah i agree.. remember back in the past the whole malaysia only play CS, Every cybercafe the only game played is only CS....

I guess its peer pressure thats what make them play game that the bandwagon play... I realize how many frens i lost just by quiting DOTA which also i learn many girls play DOTA just because every1 is...

(Although i still keep in touch but i stop hanging out with them in the cyber cafe)

p.s Nice pic there i think you should made the DOW fans hold guns,rockets,lascannon? since DOW is how about futuristic battles.

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well it could be that previous titles of WH40k, like that shitty FIREWARRIOR fps... people gave heck of a bad remarks for that game... and WH40k: Final Liberation - not as shitty, but it's still shitty....

...hence, the lack of participation and eagerness, despite all efforts of promoting DoW...

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Sep 6 2005, 09:59 AM)
Well i hope you got something planned to launch this game like a mini-tourney.  hehe
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Mini tourney?? The winner will get what? A 'Madacasgar' game? or a 'Shake Tale'?

Warhammer40k is not very popular in Malaysia. There is a very high probability
that there will no next tournament for Warhammer40k in Malaysia.

im not that kind of people, "Play For Fun".
im "Play to Win"

im not a pro-gamer. but i wish to be a PRO-gamer

Warcraft3 is too too popular with thousands of players on Battle.net where by
Warhammer40k only have max of 400 players online during midnight.
minimum are 40 players. In conclusion, warcraft3 is not a expenasive to buy.
the popularity still remain the same years after years but warhammer40k........

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Mini tourney?? The winner will get what? A 'Madacasgar' game? or a 'Shake Tale'?
That will make it worse it will scare off every Gamer out there.

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Warcraft3 is too too popular with thousands of players on Battle.net where by
Warhammer40k only have max of 400 players online during midnight.
minimum are 40 players. In conclusion, warcraft3 is not a expenasive to buy.
the popularity still remain the same years after years but warhammer40k........


Warcraft3 is indeed populor but in states is kinda dying there.. in Msia ppl is not into WC3 they are into DOTA more..
Msia love DOTA so much even BF2 didnt even make any significant change to the public.

IMO if u look at games such as gunbound and o2j why are they popular in msia cos it free... , Same goes with CS just bump into one CC and CS is there to play in LAN. Why warhammer is not.. cos u have to pay RM80 just to go online to play. in the nutshell i think games that are free or way to play online for free or the needs for a ori is optional cos Msian are generally cheapskates and not willing to buy oris..

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...or....maybe what they need is super-marketing strats, like P&G ...
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I not even see 'a' person playing DOW in CC at my area....



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haha. looks like this thread is now moving to becoming anti-dota.

well, New Era is currently planning for a tourney and we're looking at it sometime in October, a month after the launch of WA.

we're trying to make sure the logistics is well managed...
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Aw, that's a sad reality, the CCs in Subang still had their versions in 1.2 laugh.gif
Irregardless of the masses' current madness for DoTA, DoW is still special in its own way.
Now the pertinent question is, will WA be here in MY this month?

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GOOD NEWS EVERY W40K FAN!!!

1.4 PATCH FOR DOW IS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD.
HOPEFULLY THE SERVER WILL PATCH TO 1.4 ON THURSDAY


Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War -- Patch 1.4 Changes
Balance Changes
Increased Defiler cost to 190 requisition 400 power
Increased Defiler build time to 60 seconds
Increased the cost of the Chaos Sorcerer to 200 requisition 100 power
Chaos Sorcerer build time is now 60 seconds (up from 20)
Cost and build time of Chaos Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 5%
Reduced the cost of the Chaos Temple by 10%
Reinforce time of Chaos Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 10%
Warp Spider damage against infantry has been reduced by 15%
Guardian damage reduced by 5%
Ork Stormboyz armor changed from Infantry High to Heavy Medium. Ork Stormboyz should now be a much better counter to Warp Spiders.
Reduced the cost of the Space Marine Dreadnought to 170 requisition 350 power
Reduced the train time of the Space Marine Dreadnought to 50 seconds
Cost and build time of Space Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 5%
Reinforce time of Space Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 10%
Reduced the cost of the Chapel Barracks by 10%
Scouts were inadvertently given an accuracy penalty while moving in the 1.3 patch. This penalty has been removed. Scouts should now be more effective at dealing damage.
The recharge for Battle Cry was reduced to 96 seconds (down from 120)
The recharge for Orbital Bombardment was reduced to 195 seconds (down from 240)
The recharge for Smite was reduced to 100 seconds (down from 120)
The recharge for Weaken Resolve was reduced to 45 seconds (down from 60)
The build time for the Predator Lascannon upgrade was reduced to 20 seconds (down from 25)

Code & Performance Changes
Many small optimizations for low-end systems
Full front-end now reloaded after switching mods (games)
2 new graphics options: Persistent Bodies, Persistent Decals
Improved system performance detection capabilities of GraphicsOptions utility, resulting in more accurate settings. As a result, the GraphicsOptions utility will automatically run next time you start the game, post-patch/update



CLICK HERE FOR OFFICIAL NEWS

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so good oct have tourney for us, wish it can be done ^.^

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New feature in DOW 1.4 i would like to talk about.

Now u can set the numbers of persistent dead bodies and decal
in the Graphic Option. cheers.

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Hunt,
Do you like 'em ????? cheers to u biggrin.gif

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H@H@ why did u remove my DOTA example??

The Dead bodies preserve may makes good eye candy but i dont think iam gonna use it cos its distracting to play multiplayer.

Also that balance change i heard is not yet complete its just a small taste for fans

Wow another DOW tourney i hope is 1 vs 1 so i dont have to spend time to hunt down a teamate. Will the tourney be WA or DOW?



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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Sep 7 2005, 08:32 PM)
H@H@ why did u remove my DOTA example??
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You made mention of a warez server for Warcraft 3...
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Sep 8 2005, 01:01 AM)
whats a warez server
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A non-Battle.Net illegal server... Seesh.

Anyway, WA is n0w teh gOlDssss
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haha. looks like this thread is now moving to becoming anti-dota.

well, New Era is currently planning for a tourney and we're looking at it sometime in October, a month after the launch of WA.

we're trying to make sure the logistics is well managed...
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Sep 6 2005, 12:12 PM)
DoW was removed because of a lack of support. (Really, it was... ) Now, if you can honestly tell me with a straight face that you can get more ppl to join DoW than DotA locally, then I will concede my point. Like it or not, DoW is still a niche title locally, and unless you can get more mindless zombies to actually try something new (The only reason Warcraft 3 was so famous was simply because it was from Blizzard), you're never gonna get it mainstream... This is the fact of the Malaysian gaming industry, I've quit trying to introduce lesser known (But marginally better) titles to the masses already since its an exercise in futility since most gamers locally play what others play and not really for personal enjoyment.
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well, its true. Getting malaysian gamers to try new games is like talking to the deaf.



QUOTE(sanjikun @ Sep 7 2005, 01:26 AM)
...or....maybe what they need is super-marketing strats, like P&G ...
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If the guys in newera can get one CC to really market DOW. Like have tourneys and making sure u can play the game online and promote the game to the users in the CC. i think it might bring all the DOW players to the CC and have monstrous battles. This will then be awareness to those who havent tried DOW. (King_Kong, im not flaming newera. Just suggesting)

Well i do believe that the CCs hold the key to the game's popularity in malaysia.


QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 7 2005, 03:01 AM)
I not even see 'a' person playing DOW in CC at my area....
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Wei, call lar some DOW players first then meet there and frag. BTW we still have to have our match. biggrin.gif
When i get some time off, we will see to it. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(king_kong @ Sep 7 2005, 10:28 AM)
haha. looks like this thread is now moving to becoming anti-dota.

well, New Era is currently planning for a tourney and we're looking at it sometime in October, a month after the launch of WA.

we're trying to make sure the logistics is well managed...
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Youre God-sent man. smile.gif



QUOTE(Ctrl-Alt @ Sep 7 2005, 10:35 AM)
Aw, that's a sad reality, the CCs in Subang still had their versions in 1.2 laugh.gif
Irregardless of the masses' current madness for DoTA, DoW is still special in its own way.
Now the pertinent question is, will WA be here in MY this month?
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Well, im trying to talk to the owner in GamesWorld to get their original DOW game copies updated, thus allowing us to play online and expose the game to those who hasnt played it yet. But he seems to be a hard person to catch



QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 7 2005, 12:46 PM)
GOOD NEWS EVERY W40K FAN!!!

1.4 PATCH FOR DOW IS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD.
HOPEFULLY THE SERVER WILL PATCH TO 1.4 ON THURSDAY
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War -- Patch 1.4 Changes
Balance Changes
Increased Defiler cost to 190 requisition 400 power
Increased Defiler build time to 60 seconds
Increased the cost of the Chaos Sorcerer to 200 requisition 100 power
Chaos Sorcerer build time is now 60 seconds (up from 20)
Cost and build time of Chaos Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 5%
Reduced the cost of the Chaos Temple by 10%
Reinforce time of Chaos Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 10%
Warp Spider damage against infantry has been reduced by 15%
Guardian damage reduced by 5%
Ork Stormboyz armor changed from Infantry High to Heavy Medium. Ork Stormboyz should now be a much better counter to Warp Spiders.
Reduced the cost of the Space Marine Dreadnought to 170 requisition 350 power
Reduced the train time of the Space Marine Dreadnought to 50 seconds
Cost and build time of Space Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 5%
Reinforce time of Space Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 10%
Reduced the cost of the Chapel Barracks by 10%
Scouts were inadvertently given an accuracy penalty while moving in the 1.3 patch. This penalty has been removed. Scouts should now be more effective at dealing damage.
The recharge for Battle Cry was reduced to 96 seconds (down from 120)
The recharge for Orbital Bombardment was reduced to 195 seconds (down from 240)
The recharge for Smite was reduced to 100 seconds (down from 120)
The recharge for Weaken Resolve was reduced to 45 seconds (down from 60)
The build time for the Predator Lascannon upgrade was reduced to 20 seconds (down from 25)

Code & Performance Changes
Many small optimizations for low-end systems
Full front-end now reloaded after switching mods (games)
2 new graphics options: Persistent Bodies, Persistent Decals
Improved system performance detection capabilities of GraphicsOptions utility, resulting in more accurate settings. As a result, the GraphicsOptions utility will automatically run next time you start the game, post-patch/update



CLICK HERE FOR OFFICIAL NEWS

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GET A FREE Space Marine Limited Edition Metal Underwear"

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IMO his is some serious balance. Ork Stormboyz armor changed from Infantry High to Heavy Medium. Ork Stormboyz should now be a much better counter to Warp Spiders. (I like this very much) MUAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAA. here i come to rrruuuuuLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YYYYOOOOOUUUUU eldars.



johnnycp, did this patch address some of the issues you had concern with.




QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 7 2005, 04:41 PM)
New feature in DOW 1.4 i would like to talk about.

Now u can set the numbers of persistent dead bodies and decal
in the Graphic Option. cheers.

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Hunt,
Do you like 'em ????? cheers to u biggrin.gif
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Warboss Hunt will have your head on a pikeeeeeeee. Boyzzzz, its time to WAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH.



hehehe biggrin.gif

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Oh yeah btw will the tourney be WA? or izzit gonna be 1.4 DOW.

If its DOW 1.4 i better prepare a strat for scout rush cos i bet alot of pll will do it.

i hope you guys wont use 1.3 for the tourney cos they just simply gonna have lots of pll will use chaos and spam defilers.


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Oh yeah btw will the tourney be WA? or izzit gonna be 1.4 DOW.

If its DOW 1.4 i better prepare a strat for scout rush cos i bet alot of pll will do it.

i hope you guys wont use 1.3 for the tourney cos they just simply gonna have lots of pll will use chaos and spam defilers.
Don't be hasty master Redeye. I bet the tournament will not be in october.
It is not confirm yet whether the tournament will be made.

we just have a tournament in June. 'Maybe', the next tournamentit will be
at November or December when school and college holiday.

We will see the banner and advertisment very soon if the tournament
is confirm.

well, the previous tournament prize is quite BIG!!, it is even bigger than the
prize offer in WCG. If the next tournament the prize is 100x smaller i also
didnt mind. prize consist of Razer mice and pad will be very nice to me already.

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1.4 patch can be download now pls using Bitcomet let we together up the speed ^.^ http://www.hwcommunity.com/tracker/
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SM LP2 can now target ennemy units instead of always firing at the nearest guy.

Apoth still seems healing at 16x.

One annoying bug: if you assign a control number to a building you dont see the number appearing below the building anymore; this is annoying.

The graphical glitches introduced in 1.3 are still here (most visible in SM barracks when they call a drop pod)

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Gamespy has just released a preview on Winter Assault:

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/warhammer-40000-d...t/648746p1.html

FYI, Winter ASsault will retail for RM 99.90 (b'cos it's not localised).

It's slightly higher than the base set, but it's in English!

The game will be released at the end of this month!
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LOL RM100???

It is not a standalone patch.
The 1.4 patch come along with some new data for
the upcoming WA expansion..


Undocumented changes,

General:
- In game timer
- Cant build an LP on a location that is being decapped
- New annihilate victory conditions
- Changed the "eye" color to trim2 color which brings numerous change to custom schemes
- On any other stance other than "burn stance" units will prefer to target units rather than buildings.

Eldar:

- FoF research cost from 50/10 to 50/50
- Mind War kills only 1 model
- New GFX for Eldritch Storm
- Guardian squad cost 130 to produce instead of 120 (each guardian still cost 30)
- Activating Fleet of Foot on a squad with an attached platform will automatically activate gravitic booster.
- Embolden nows adds 200 morale instead of adding 200 to maximum morale.
- Warp spiders now have an animation when they attack on the move
- Progress bar between each Rangers shot as well as for the Prism Cannon
- Fire Prism cannnot fire their cannon on the move anymore; they can still fire it while they jump.
- Wraithtomb now stops LP2 from firing

Ork:

- All ork buildings can retarget their fire to a different squad; their range is also displayed.
- Gretchins cost 0 pop to a maximum of 4 gretchins
- Grenades fixed
- New look to LP2
- Generators no longer require 16 Ork population to be built
- Stormboy nob leader from 75/25 to 75/20
- Super stikk bomb does friendly fire damage to your buildings.
- wartrakk crew's backpack is removed

SM:

- LP2 can retarget to a different squad
- New graphics to OB/Weaken resolve
- Grenades work

Chaos:

- Grenades work
- add a progress bar to defiler for the status of the battlecanon and only can
fire the battlecannon when it is stationary



1 unconfirm thing,
CC units now will split up to chase multiple enemy squad IF the
enemy's squads are standing to close to each other. In other words,
CC units will split up and attack the nearest enemy by ignoring the no. of enemy squard

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yeah i heard of it so i guess it a +1 for orks now now they can swarm off effiecently now. It a good thing for me also as i can swarm ASM on Reapers more effectively now.

Atleast the battlecannon is workout no more charging in with cannon raping everything.

Atleast now FOF needs eldar to build a powerplant or lose a farseer. Thx god now no more pesky guardian rush.. It was so cheapo.


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WA need Rm 100 dont know want to buy or not ............... and the 1.4 patch is not so nice choas is shiit now and the eldar >.<
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not really now Chaos preadator is buff up now with its lascannon able to toss enemy around.

Eldar i dont see much changes only FOF cos a little more and guardian is weaker. Dont see how much it will change there.

Honestly i was hoping for a Hellfire dread to get a Buff or the power cost of whirlwind is cheaper.
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will it be possible for Relic to add more variety to subweapons? like meltaguns or something?

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Well i for one was looking for some proper balancing to the Ork Armour settings so that they dont get mowed down too fast before being able to reach their enemy.

Eldar will just hit slower now. thats all. have to really test out these changes to really understand whether the old tactics still work on this new patch.
For what its worth, the Farseer's ES was useless then and i dont see a real difference now as well. her initial spells are the real big guns she has. Eventhough the description about the ES in the game states that it does significant morale and health damage to units, vehicles and buildings.

Chaos like before has been given the chance to use multiple strats against their enemies. their starting BO i think will be a choice between the Khorne beserkers, possessed and CSMs.

SM as always will be able to hold ground efficiently now with their snipers having the proper balance to them. Still would have liked to see the whirlwind a little more affordable now as the IG will be able to suppress SMs with their powerful tanks especially with those long range artillery guns. Which do you think will be stronger the LR or the BB

been reading this article.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/warhammer-40000-d...t/648746p1.html

IG will definately bring more variety to the game. i can see relic's reason for choosing the IG instead of the other races. Well RM100 or not, this game is going to be included into my list of "Must Have" games.

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KingKong,

Will Bulk Purchase of WA give bigga discount??
If so, lets start a bulk now smile.gif

"This product will be in stock on Monday 19 September, 2005." - PCgame.com.my

does it means we can see WA on shelfs for sale on 19th?

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 11 2005, 12:29 PM)
KingKong,

Will Bulk Purchase of WA give bigga discount??
If so, lets start a bulk now smile.gif

"This product will be in stock on Monday 19 September, 2005." - PCgame.com.my

does it means we can see WA on shelfs for sale on 19th?
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hey if there's really a bulk, count mine in as well!!!
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me too me too count me in also ..........
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You know i want in as well.



seriously, i just want to get my hands on the game and start learning up the strats for the IG and see what they are made off. Alot of review highlighting how they can rule in late game but provided they are careful in the start.

Just hope the game's graphic has been pushed up to movie standards. biggrin.gif
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AHHHHhh.. waiting for KingKong to reply


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btw issit appropriate to discuss strats here?
i wanna be a better player instead of feeding off those stupid AI lolx.....
(beaten Harder AI through 20 minutes of turtling ><l)
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 12 2005, 12:55 PM)
AHHHHhh.. waiting for KingKong to reply
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Heh, i'm in as well if such a deal happpens! thumbup.gif




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QUOTE(Ctrl-Alt @ Sep 12 2005, 01:29 PM)
Heh, i'm in as well if such a deal happpens!  thumbup.gif
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20++ ppl going bulk = cheaper by 50 bucks maybe?
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sorry i'm late. just got back from a meeting.

bulk buy eh, i'm actually not in the position to discuss bulk buying because my retailer could come kill me (i hope he's not reading this).

lemme go bug him first and see what my retailer has to say.
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Sep 12 2005, 04:33 PM)
sorry i'm late. just got back from a meeting.

bulk buy eh, i'm actually not in the position to discuss bulk buying because my retailer could come kill me (i hope he's not reading this).

lemme go bug him first and see what my retailer has to say.
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i've also changed the title of this thread, the DoW tournament has been long gone already so not very appropriate.


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yea.....
damn long too, if i may add laugh.gif
(btw you have 2 same posts :wink: )
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if ur buying bulk add me also.

when i get WA not going online for awhile go and finish the campaign first for me.

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Well its a surprise to see the name of the thread changed. smile.gif for the better.

What better place than to discuss strats. It will give us a chance to see the strong and weak points of the latest patch and talk about the cool killings we have done. smile.gif

Found another person who shares our love for DOW but then cant seem to find players in the local CC. Told him about this thread and now i hope he's reading it.

Anyone know what was the deal with the Ork player Charlie. it seems like the online community seems to hate him. i wonder why.

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USA WCG pictures

http://dow.sanctuary-network.com/index.php?showtopic=9792


You can see how Sleign, Fear and Charlie looks like in real life HAHA
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well, thats a real eye-opener. They dont look like how they sound online.
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Anyone noticed the weirdness of Eldar platforms in this 1.4 patch? if you were to rally the webway to some point in the map, and as they come out, they are in some kind of cease attack mode while moving to that point, you can't ask them to move attack unless you specify stop, then move attack. weird...ness...

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i wonder is they anyway we can get those replays from wcg across the world?
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i heard about only 7 peeps at the Singapore WCG DoW tournament...
seven dude?!?!
so little only...
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Sep 14 2005, 09:38 AM)
i heard about only 7 peeps at the Singapore WCG DoW tournament...
seven dude?!?!
so little only...
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dont worry man....
there're still the Grand Finals at November smile.gif
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I wish to go to watch WCG grand final..... but..... anyone want to sposor me?? sad.gif
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Oh yeah WA commin out this monday.. so will New Era be realeasing on the same date.
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PCgame.com.my website say the stock will arrived at 19th Sept.

i dont know what the means actually. Maybe for those who preorder WA
will get their copy at 19th???
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 15 2005, 05:07 PM)
PCgame.com.my website say the stock will arrived at 19th Sept.

i dont know what the means actually. Maybe for those who preorder WA
will get their copy at 19th???
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Will you be waiting for King about the bulk orders discount?

@King_Kong: Do let us know yah, dude?
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I give the supplier phone no. to Hunt already.
still dont know how the business is going on.

I have to wait him to reply me
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dammit....
why does IG has builder units like techpriest enginseer that wields cool axes while SM has only bloody servitors...zzz
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Because Imperial's Guardsmen is weaks like garbage.. smile.gif
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well in tabletop SM has a equvalant of a techpriest which is call a techmarine but it would be to imba if we place the techmarines up as they are uber in their own ways.

If u gonna buy bulk please get one for me...

speaking of the IG if iam not mistaken i heard as for their str 1 squad of guardsmen will lose to a squad of SM tacs but 4 squads of guardmen can defeat 4 Sm squads as Guardmen as much farther range than vanila Sm unit. Just think of em as cultist but can build to 13 of em.

IG is all about gettin ur army together if they split they are dead. What iam concern is their Baneblade... 11 guns thats it 2 uber cannon, bolters and las everywhere is practically a Land Raider but more uber and it faster.


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sorry every1, i've been tied up.

the bulk has been handed over to my distributor, how i believe johnnycp has passed the contact to hunt. best to get in touch with them 2.
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Ive already called the contact. Waiting for a reply from him. In the mean time , anyone interested pls PM me and johnnycp. Pls dont post it here.

Thanks.

Will try my best!.

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thanks king
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Anymore?????????? WA is around the corner, Please fast fast reply...biggrin.gif Payment + delivery tooks ages..
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Btw will they be any grand oppening for WA.. things like will need us to camp out one whole day to queqe up for the game...?
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OK, heres the deal. The more ppl we have going for the bulk buy the cheaper the game gets.

The other thing, 19th sept is the release date in america. however it will take the game some time to reach the malaysian shores. The sooner we get the orders and the $$$$$, we will be able to get our copies sooner.(the faster i can make the order)

still i need figures to negotiate with the contact. Cant talk much if i dont have much. So ppl, please decide fast. time is not on our side.


About the release date, i think only King can enlighten you with that, redeye84



Pls PM, johnnycp or me about your confirmation on the order.
GO,GO,GO ppl.


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cmon people... spread the word WA in discount prices the more and sooner the better.

guess i be playing the pirates for a while till atual release date...


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Well u wouldnt have to if you can get ppl to put down their orders.
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err....
the price is RM 100 or more?
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anymore interested????
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King, would it be possible for you to confirm how much WA would cost?

Thanks man!

Sorry if we caused any complications for you.
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I have make a new thread for bulk purchase WA. it is more easy to see and to keep this thread clean. Just hope moderator wont move to other place

here is the link
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=199011
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There will be no pirated or whatsoever it called for WinterAssault. Im 100% sure for it. So if u wanna play, U have to get an original copy.
Proof?? See Dawn of War version 1.3 and 1.4 urself and SplinterCell 3-Chaos
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Are u sure...? i dont understand on the 1.3 and 1.4... part care to explain
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Major grammar mistake!! LOL doh.gif pls help me out

what i mean is Version 1.3 and 1.4 has none NOCD crack.
which means it is uncrackable by hacker?? I try to search for the noCD crack for
hours but still cant find any.

there is big probability that WA also dont have NOCD crack.
No pirated WA will be produce for sale.


Better remove it, just incase everyone asking...doh.gif

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hunt,

no worries dude, happy to help out with y'all Warhammer fans.

Winter Assault will be officially retail for RM 99.90.

U have to check with johnnycp to confirm a bulk price, im not too sure of the arrangement.

it's slated for release very soon, in about another week or so and THERE IS NO CD CRACK for DoW 1.3 n 1.4 at this moment so don't expect the 'p' copies to be out anytime soon.

so better pre-order now!
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ahh just 1 more day to WA release... cant wait.. for the arrival of my copy the sooner the better.

Oh yeah how about payment method? send by mail or go somewhere and collect ur self?
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thanks King for the price info.
Would u be able to tell us when Newera will be selling the game here. Want to know this to make sure whether pre-order will be better than just waiting for the game to be available in the shops.

redeye84, payment will be better if you can send me the money so that, i dont have any complications later(like ppl saying dont want after ordering). I know u guys are not like that but better avoid problems right?

Well please ppl, let johnnycp and me know of your orders. So far there's only 8 ppl who have ordered. Need more orders.




Johnnycp, sorry i have been missing awhile. Working the night shifts nowadays vmad.gif

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wahh.. i bet now in america now people are camping out near retail game shops to wait for the shop to open early morning to get their copy of WA now....
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Well we should be getting ours soon, if we can get more orders for WA. smile.gif

Heres to hoping.
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bank detail updated, pls bank in ur $$ ASAP. we need to order stock now.


http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=6&t=199011&st=0

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For COD, minimum of RM50 deposit is needed.
For POS Laju, Full payment is needed and Postage is pay by buyer
I dont really understand the whole thing.. care to enlight me, Sorry not expert with this kind of stuff. What COD anyway...

Also about the banking detail... I also not sure what to do...

i apologize again really not good with all this..

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For banking detail, please use the link above.

COD = cash-on-delivery

for more info. add me to ur MSN messenger
jasoncp83@msn.com


Q: How to bank in money??
A: jolt down all the banking info and name, then go to bank and say u want bank in $$ to that account. that's it. As soon as u bank in the $$. pls call or sms 016-2902149. thx


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when will WA hit shelf???
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ok, im not sure whether its off topic, but it seems this is the only place i can get reply from malaysian DoW'tians..

we are thinking of hosting Dawn of War Online tournament for our next Online Challenge Event (target to asians).

http://www.mygozone.com/content.php?content.40

previously we have CS, & WC3 for the online challenge. we are thinking of having Dawn of War tournament for our next Online Challenge (OC Season 8) to help the DoW community in Asia, especially Malaysia.

just would like to know, how much support you guys think i can get from local malaysian.. & whats the problem i need to face.. what format should i use, what type of game u guys think need to be used, 2v2? 1v1?... etc...

and maybe later also need to recruit some admin that is very good in DoW rules/gameplay as well...

can reply here or email me @ esqandar@hotmail.com

i will open new thread if this take too long...
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WOW omg. 2v2 is great. 1v1 quite boring and tooks like 20mins+ per match.

It is better u make a new topic. it is easy to get spotted by other gamers.

put a BIG BIG title there thumbup.gif

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have online tournment for us ... good notworthy.gif drool.gif thumbup.gif i wise it can be done ..... 2v2 or 1v1 i prefer 2v2 becoz it is fun but for more balance i think is 1v1. Is the tournment for WA or 1.4 patch????????
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street date for Winter Assault, tentatively end of September, no exact date given.

to comment for the tournament, y not have a FFA, CTF?
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Sep 21 2005, 01:59 PM)
street date for Winter Assault, tentatively end of September, no exact date given.

to comment for the tournament, y not have a FFA, CTF?
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will take note of that..

i will gather just few more info, & start a new topic very soon...

& lets start 1.4 tournament first, tournament will be held somewhere mid november (1-2 weeks after hari raya festival).

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Yes! DOW online tourament! I agree on That!!! woohoo!
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QUOTE(crestfallen @ Sep 21 2005, 02:23 PM)
will take note of that..

i will gather just few more info, & start a new topic very soon...

& lets start 1.4 tournament first, tournament will be held somewhere mid november (1-2 weeks after hari raya festival).
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Unfortunately cry.gif , i will not free a t moment. november is the month of my exam.

why dont early of December, every college student will be free then.

Just right after exam. but still dont have time to train LOL

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Hmm early december... wish i know when my finals is held so i can tell wether i can join or not..

I would prefer 1 vs 1 as me i have no fren to be my teamate....


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wowow...nice...!! me and my mate sure support!!
1v1, 2v2, 3v3 doesnt matter.. the best is 2v2 lar ofcourse..haha
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redeye84...what is your nick in online dow??
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pls dont mid of november ... i have exam too pls make it on December pls pls pls pls pls !!!!!!!!!!!!
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redeye84...what is your nick in online dow??


My nick is [5nip3r]redey

tell me urs so i can look u up online..
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mine is orkburger...see me b4?
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First reviews are in from IGN and 1UP. Sounds pretty good. Thanks to Evil Avatar for the info.
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post Sep 22 2005, 01:09 AM

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I trying to avoid seeing those reviews matther of fact i now am avoiding relic forum for awhile as i for sure know they gonna be alot of spoilers.
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Crest, first of all the Malaysian DOW community is a niche crowd. You would wanna pick a date that is suitable for all of them to come and wage war. I bet all of them would really love participate in this.
thanks for choosing DOW as one of the games in the lineup. CTF and Tag-team annihilate will be the best form of matches. IMO, 2vs2 would be the better deal. Pls use 1.4 patch.


As for the rest of the DOW community, The bulk order is still going on, pls hurry up and put down your order with johnnycp and me. Thanks. Guys and girls pls show your support.


King, can u confirm that WA will be released at the end of Sept. Thanks dude.
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U guys have got to check out the gameplay video of IGs fighting Chaos at IGN.

Here's the URL : http://media.pc.ign.com/media/730/730067/vids_1.html

Check out all the videos. The battle is awesome, with the bodies not disappearing, its kickass.


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post Sep 22 2005, 11:56 AM

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Spoiler in WA review?? nah, they cant change my mind. Im royal DOW fan. hahahaha
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ok, i dont think i need to open another new thread yet. i think i got all the info i need atm, but if you guys wanna tell me something, feel free to email me at crestfallen@mygozone.com.

as for the date, i think i can push it a bit top early-mid Dec.
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crest, thats great news about the date. Well, i just want to know how is this tourney gonna be done.(like r we battling online players or......)


johnnycp, u really got to check it out. Besides we are all natives to the Warhammer universe. biggrin.gif
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WHOAHHHH~~~ Lets together raise the popularity of Warhammer40k in Malaysia.


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thats the spirit!!!!!!!.


FOR THE CHOAS GODSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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it's set for release 30th september 2005.
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it called "Online Challenge". so basically, u guys gotta connect to the internet to be able to play the tournament.

can someone email me a bit details regarding CTF match?..
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QUOTE(king_kong @ Sep 23 2005, 09:22 AM)
it's set for release 30th september 2005.
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30 sep.. signnn 1 more week... how i wish it can be sooner...

Is 30 sep for this bulk release only or whole of malaysia?
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UPDATE: official release date is september 30th, but it may only arrive MY around the 3rd-5th of October.

more to come.
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Well, good news indeed. thumbup.gif

To all who want their copies first, please hurry up and join the bulk order. biggrin.gif

great news King

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omg 3rd to 5th Oct..
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wa...so late, WA replays are coming out by the dozens, and can't watch them, yet! ... doh.gif
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The original race only got an extra of 1 new unit!!!!! Disappointing, I expected at least 3 new units for the 3 previous race.

Imperial guards looks cool in the game and the ballistix - artillery (long-range) Rocks...owned most enemies in the battlefield, like they say "Never know what hit
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The original race only got an extra of 1 new unit!!!!! Disappointing, I expected at least 3 new units for the 3 previous race


dude u have to consider the amount of balancing they have to do for the game.
I think 4 is already a chore to balance imagine with 5 race...`
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I agree. At this point i believe it was Relics intention to make sure the balancing in the game is perfect.

I want to see if there any hidden surprises inserted into the game that will give a clue to their next moves with this franchise.
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I heard they inserted tyriands in the campaign so maybe they might consider adding a tyriands race into the game or not.

Usually games only goes on 1 standalone and 1 expansion nothing else so maybe we can hope for sometihng else like FPS maybe.

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Well here's to hoping that they will continue this franchise and epand it to all nine races. It would be really a goal to attain if they do plan to do so.

well does anyone know all the DOW:WA events that will be happening in KL. Would like to mark those dates down. biggrin.gif
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Warhammer(medieval) is in the making, developer is not Relic though,

Warhammer
Publisher: Namco
Developer: Black Hole Games(makers of Armies of Exigo)

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warham...ew_6134458.html
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QUOTE(heaven @ Sep 28 2005, 10:22 PM)
Warhammer(medieval) is in the making, developer is not Relic though,

Warhammer
Publisher: Namco
Developer: Black Hole Games(makers of Armies of Exigo)

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warham...ew_6134458.html
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I think this will be more like Total War series. I must say it did look quite nice. Still i would prefer it would be represented in DOW style.

Thanks for the info.


Here's a heads up news for you guys. Johnnycp has informed me that there is a workaround that can be used to eliminate the "Must have the CD in the tray to play" curse. biggrin.gif

Johnnycp, would you be so kind as to tell the fellas. if i did something wrong by saying all of this, im sincerely sorry. notworthy.gif
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aaahh.. medieval warhammer.. last game i played was shadow of horned rat & dark omen.. hopefully control the grudgebringer again...
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Well, crest i know u would really love to play it cause it looks like total war.
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any news about the exact release date of WA??
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Guys, check this news out. Here's something while you guys are waiting.

http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/dawnofwar/dow_email.htm



The information below is from http://www.relicnews.com/archives/category/relic/

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No Warhammer Games from THQ?

Posted in Relic by Administrator on March 8th, 2005

First off, when I say Warhammer, I mean Warhammer proper, not Warhammer 40,000.

It seems Namco has gained the rights from Games Workshop to create PC and console games based on the Warhammer Intellectual Property.

This likely means that we won't be seeing Relic and THQ involved in making any Warhammer based games using the Impossible Creatures/Dawn of War game engine.

Thanks to Evilavatar.com for the heads up.




This is so heart breaking. Im just so depressed. I cant believe, this day would come again. First time was when bullfrog was not making DK2, and now this.

Sorry fellas. I really love this game and to hear such news is depressing. Well i havent seen news of Relic and THQ themselves airing the news so i still have some hope.



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There are Necrons in the end campaign for the the order side, dont think tyranids are in....so far, I never encounter them.
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Where did u get that Info?
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Check it out dudes: http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=74162


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NECRON!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOAH
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Could it be that if there is a next installment of DOW, the next race is Necrons.

Man, i cant wait to pick up the game.
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Well, Anyone from Malaysia figured out a good strat for the IG.

KingKong, you should now rename this thread to DOW:Winter Assault.

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thx Hunt to send us the CD now start the game now !! ^.^
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Yahoo Its finally with me... after a whole week + 2 hours wait i got it....

Gonna give my feedback after a while later....

P.s got a Rm5 off Thks Hunt. Time to serve the emperor... again
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the Baneblede ROX!!!

the Priest ROX!!!!




THEY ALL ROX!!!!



BTW, everyone, should we create a Malaysian DOW clan??

CHEERS!!

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well it would be cool to have a clan but then will they be MY clans to compete?

Anyway some feedback.. I dont think IG would be a race suitable for Noobs is rather hard to micro with em.. Anyway Now the battlefield is switch to tier 2 as all the heavy weaponary are bought there and tier 3 is gonna be a drag...

Anyway some random comment
- Scouts can have 4 weapons now.. cool now can deal with reapers easier.
- Tac SM can have 5 weapon ahh even more dealier plasma marines.
- Whirwinds been cheaper Finally now i can add whirlwinds in my strat more easier now... Been hoping them to be cheaper a long while also.
- Rockets are anti inf now and not anti building now... Kinda odd for this change.. Although it makes Hellfire dreads more effetive but it makes rockets marines rather useless....
-Land raider limted to 1.... Although they make it stronger.. but then i dunno that a good thing or not..
-Wow Chaplain is pratically a FC with a Apoc looks usefull is u need the extra apoc or melee unit.

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playing it for quite some time oledi... it quite hard compare to the ori DOW sweat.gif ... anyone found a trainer for thiz game? Plz inform me k smile.gif oledi googling around but >_< ...thanks in advance..
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Woohoohoo.....
Anyone wanna try mass 'grenadiers'? totally works on rushes wheeeee!

QUOTE(miloy2k @ Oct 9 2005, 11:58 PM)
playing it for quite some time oledi... it quite hard compare to the ori DOW sweat.gif ... anyone found a trainer for thiz game? Plz inform me k smile.gif  oledi googling around but >_< ...thanks in advance..
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lolx i have been searching around for that same trainer for DoW.... but sigh....
unlimited unit caps is great for campaign dont you think wink.gif

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QUOTE(sanjikun @ Oct 10 2005, 12:08 AM)
Woohoohoo.....
Anyone wanna try mass 'grenadiers'? totally works on rushes wheeeee!
lolx i have been searching around for that same trainer for DoW.... but sigh....
unlimited unit caps is great for campaign dont you think  wink.gif
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yea.. I second that.. only need trainer for unlimited no rolleyes.gif
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Well looks like this thread is now teeming with life. biggrin.gif

To all who had to wait for the bulk order units to be delivered. Im sorry. Tried my best.
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I think rushing the IGs is not simple. Looks like teching fast is the best way to kill the IGs instead of mass rush.

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The imperial General with his priest/psyker cronies can really wallop any solo hero. the priest has crazy hand-to-hand damage!
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Hey guys can i know what the specs for this game is??
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Oct 11 2005, 12:23 PM)
Hunt, what is ur online nickname??
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Well currently im known as deville in online play. Been MIA for awhile cause ive been working the night shift. Will move to become active once i switch shifts.


Its true that the IGs hero can seriously kick the ass of any hero. I think the IG is seriously fun to play on a small map.

the map Abandon all Hope seriously rocks. Especially when you battle Orks while you use IG.
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wow...i'm amazed that there is ssuch ahuge following for the warhammer 40000 universe in this case the Dawn of War... smile.gif smile.gif respect....respect .... thumbup.gif ...have any of u guys modded out or use some of the mods that are provided in relic forum namely the adeptus modificatus section?....would like to know if itworks or not ...cause somehow i can't seem to be able to play with it (something about the version that i have not being a 1.1 variant )...i keep on trying to patch it with all the available patches but it keep on saying that my version is unsurported.... shakehead.gif ...thus far me and me mates has been playing like mad on the Kasyr Lutien map against 3 Chaos rivals (Insane setting)...after 3 hours and a lot of screaming and cursing like rabid wolves ...we ended with killing at least 3000 opponent and losing at least 2500 men and machines...it was a dark day for the emperor's finest and we bare the scare like a badge og honour ...oi vey...

cheers all
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hunt..thanks for delivering to us..haha..!!
so late reply coz busying everyday on campaign! hehe!! just finish chaos story..!! is a good story line!!
i found some new race unit soldier (not IG) in campaign... those unit look like skeleton holding plasma gun walk very slow come down from a big drop ship!!!...lol!!!
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those unit look like skeleton holding plasma gun walk very slow come down from a big drop ship!!!...lol!!!

Oh those are necrons...

Anyway also after playing the chaos campaign i learn that some of the things Chaos says is kinda wierd..

" Sanity is for the weak"
So does that means if u wanna be strong u must be a mad men

" it been tho a 1000 miles cry out in pain"
I dont quite understand this one.

Also somemore comments about Sm new tech tree.
although Whirwinds is cheaper but it only availble in tier 3
heavy Bolters can only be recieve in tier 2 which is kinda bad as now SM is very weak in tier 1 now.
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I think rushing the IGs is not simple. Looks like teching fast is the best way to kill the IGs instead of mass rush.
Without the heavy bolters IG grenade rush totaly pwns SM at ease.


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